[Ads-l] "California sober"

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Thu Dec 9 19:44:28 EST 2021


I think you're getting confused with the inside-out sushi roll.


On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 4:28 PM Benjamin M Brainard <brainard at uga.edu> wrote:

> I always thought that was called a "California Roll" vs stop
>
> ..ben
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> ´╗┐On 12/9/21, 4:17 PM, "American Dialect Society on behalf of Grant
> Barrett" <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on behalf of gbarrett at WORLDNEWYORK.ORG>
> wrote:
>
>     [EXTERNAL SENDER - PROCEED CAUTIOUSLY]
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>     I've seen it as "Cali sober" on Reddit and there are many hits for it
>     there. The oldest mentions for both forms of the expression are from
>     about two years ago.
>
>     https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=%22cali%20sober%22
>
>
>     GB
>
>     On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 5:51 PM Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > Looks like "California sober" is to "sober" as "California stop"
> (i.e., a
>     > rolling stop) is to "stop." (Larry Horn would call these "ironyms.")
>     >
>     > I discuss "California stop" (aka "Hollywood/Michigan/New
> York/Philly/St.
>     > Louis/American stop") in these 2013 pieces on regional traffic terms:
>     >
>     >
> https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2013/04/06/boston-driving-bad-needs-its-own-lingo/UM7UhGh5qCdZPVukFH37QN/story.html
>     >
> https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/wordroutes/word-on-the-street-sketchy-traffic-lingo/
>     >
>     > --bgz
>     >
>     > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 5:57 PM Bill Mullins <amcombill at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>     >
>     > > "California sober" -- never ran across this before today.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
> https://www.lx.com/entertainment/what-does-california-sober-mean-definition/45920/
>     > >
>     > >
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