[Ads-l] "California sober"

Andy Bach afbach at GMAIL.COM
Mon Dec 13 17:36:27 EST 2021


"Idaho stop" - Idaho has had that legal for bicyclists since '82
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop



On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:10 PM Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:

> See my 2013 Boston Globe column linked below. An excerpt:
>
> ---
> Consider the “rolling stop,” in which the driver treats a stop sign as a
> yield. The region most identified with this casual technique is California,
> and, like many such traffic insults, it’s especially favored by those in
> the immediate vicinity, in this case neighboring states such as Arizona and
> Oregon. I found a reference to the “California stop” all the way back in
> 1964, when an Arizona state commissioner named John P. Clark was arrested
> in Tucson on charges of driving drunk and failing to heed a stop sign.
> Clark admitted to newspaper reporters that he had made a “California
> rolling stop” but denied being intoxicated. In the late ’70s and ’80s,
> “California roll” developed as an alternate term, no doubt helped along by
> the popularity of the sushi roll.
> ---
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 7:44 PM Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think you're getting confused with the inside-out sushi roll.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 4:28 PM Benjamin M Brainard <brainard at uga.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I always thought that was called a "California Roll" vs stop
> > >
> > > ..ben
> > >
> > > --
> > > Benjamin Brainard VMD, Dipl ACVAA, ACVECC
> > > Edward H Gunst Professor of Small Animal Critical Care
> > > Director of Clinical Research
> > > College of Veterinary Medicine
> > > University of Georgia
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> > > 706-357-0109 (f)
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/9/21, 4:17 PM, "American Dialect Society on behalf of Grant
> > > Barrett" <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU on behalf of
> gbarrett at WORLDNEWYORK.ORG>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >     [EXTERNAL SENDER - PROCEED CAUTIOUSLY]
> > >
> > >
> > >     I've seen it as "Cali sober" on Reddit and there are many hits for
> it
> > >     there. The oldest mentions for both forms of the expression are
> from
> > >     about two years ago.
> > >
> > >     https://www.reddit.com/search/?q=%22cali%20sober%22
> > >
> > >
> > >     GB
> > >
> > >     On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 5:51 PM Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >     >
> > >     > Looks like "California sober" is to "sober" as "California stop"
> > > (i.e., a
> > >     > rolling stop) is to "stop." (Larry Horn would call these
> > "ironyms.")
> > >     >
> > >     > I discuss "California stop" (aka "Hollywood/Michigan/New
> > > York/Philly/St.
> > >     > Louis/American stop") in these 2013 pieces on regional traffic
> > terms:
> > >     >
> > >     >
> > >
> >
> https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2013/04/06/boston-driving-bad-needs-its-own-lingo/UM7UhGh5qCdZPVukFH37QN/story.html
> > >     >
> > >
> >
> https://www.vocabulary.com/articles/wordroutes/word-on-the-street-sketchy-traffic-lingo/
> > >     >
> > >     > --bgz
> > >     >
> > >     > On Mon, Dec 6, 2021 at 5:57 PM Bill Mullins <
> amcombill at hotmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >     >
> > >     > > "California sober" -- never ran across this before today.
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.lx.com/entertainment/what-does-california-sober-mean-definition/45920/
> > >     > >
> > >     > >
> > >     >
> >
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