[Ads-l] ink pen

Margaret Winters mewinters at WAYNE.EDU
Tue Dec 14 15:37:55 EST 2021


I once had my fountain pen identified (in tones of awe) by a Southern Illinois 20ish man as a 'liquid ink pin', doubly differentiated from pins and also from ballpoint pens.

Margaret

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MARGARET E WINTERS
Former Provost
Professor Emerita - French and Linguistics
Wayne State University
Detroit, MI  48202

mewinters at wayne.edu


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Nice.  So, parallel to "straight pin", which serves as a disambiguator in
pin/pen merger country and also retronymically distinguishes (straight)
pins from safety pins.

LH

On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 7:55 AM Amy West <medievalist at w-sts.com> wrote:

> So, I've always understood the use of "ink pen" to be typical in
> varieties of American English with the PEN-PIN merger. But here's an
> instance of "ink pen" contrasting with quill:
>
> https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/ink-pen-0016179
>
> "An archaeologist excavating at an 11th century ringfort in Ireland has
> unearthed the oldest ink pen ever discovered in Ireland. . . . The ink
> pen features a hollowed bone barrel and a copper-alloy nib."
>
> Disturbingly, the article author implies that fountain pens existed in
> the 11th century:
>
> "Dip pens have no ink reservoir within the barrel, unlike the fountain
> pens and feather quills
> <
> https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/native-american-art-0010736>
>
> that were much more popular in the 11th century." That simply ain't so.
> There were the prototypes in its development from the 15th-18th century,
> but it wasn't until the 19th c. that fountain pens became popular.
>
> (And FYI, quill pens would have all or all but the top-most feathers
> stripped from them.)
>
> ---Amy West
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