[Ads-l] back-formed verb form of the day

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Sun Dec 19 20:22:03 EST 2021


I've heard "I've dove," but never "doven/diven."  I forgot about "clumb."  Thanks for citing it.  It's faux too.  So much for the velar guess.  We could still go with [+grave], I suppose.

On December 19, 2021, at 7:46 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:

And there's "dove", at least for the preterite. Less frequent for the
participle, I'd wager.  Is "clumb" a relic past or a faux-ablaut past?

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 7:12 PM Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com> wrote:

> Two weak verbs that I can think of have developed faux-ablaut forms:
> sneak/snuck/snuck and drag/drug/drug.  Both behave like weak verbs in that
> their preterite and participle forms are the same.  And they both go to the
> same central vowel not widely found in strong verbs for those two forms,
> aside from dig/dug/dug, which could be the analytical model for them since
> they all end in velar stops.
>
> On December 19, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Tony Romo, announcer on Steelers-Titans game, Steelers have the ball on the
> Titans' 1 yard line.  Romo and co-announcer Jim Nantz agree that a
> quarterback sneak by Ben Rothlisberger is unlikely:
>
> "Ben hasn't *quarterback-snuck* all year. Does he do it here?"
>
> (In fact, he quarterback-snuck twice in a row, unsuccessfully and then
> successfully.)
>
> "To quarterback-sneak" is not that uncommon itself, but I don't think I've
> encountered the strong (ablaut) past participle before.
>
> LH
>
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