[Ads-l] science-fiction, 1898 antedating (?)

Shapiro, Fred fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU
Wed Feb 3 16:11:09 EST 2021


Jon,

Thanks for clarifying a point that I have always wondered about.

Fred Shapiro


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Subject: Re: science-fiction, 1898 antedating (?)

Not circular if they've already defined a different sense.

JL

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 7:28 AM Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu> wrote:

> Stephen's discovery of this 1898 citation is a major one.  The OED has the
> following citation, under the sense of "A work of science fiction" (isn't
> that a circular definition?):
>
> 1897   H. B. Mason in Pharmaceut. World 20 May 592/1   My last remembrance
> had been of reading Mr. [J. U.] Lloyd's Etidorhpa... The complete arrest of
> bodily function and tissue waste which the central figure of that
> remarkable science-fiction achieved at the point where gravitation ceases,
> somewhere between here and China, impressed me deeply.
>
> However, Stephen's 1898 citation is clearly referring to the genre, and to
> the modern usage of the term.
>
> Fred Shapiro
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> Bulletin of Pharmacy [Detroit], October, 1898, v. 12 n. 10 p. 466/1.
>
> Mr. H. G. Wells, the imaginative writer of science-fiction, has recently
> brought out a thrilling romance whose basis is the intended conquest of the
> earth by the inhabitants of Mars. In "The War of the Worlds," Mr. Wells
> tells us [....]
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