[Ads-l] Cancel Culture

Dennis During dcduring at GMAIL.COM
Fri Feb 5 20:11:07 EST 2021


I don't think that the term is used equally by all sides. I don't think it
is used pejoratively by social justice advocates (You see what I did
there?). It is used by their critics.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 2:59 PM Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> How about "a putative unjust or unethical partisan movement to suppress
> opposing political views"?
>
> Getting  closer?
>
> JL
>
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 2:50 PM Dennis During <dcduring at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If it is predominantly used disparagingly about anything, however vague
> the
> > targets and however unfair the disparagement, then the intent of
> > disparagement is part of its meaning, as is the case for 'political
> > correctness', 'social justice warrior' ("SJW") and similar terms.
> Currently
> > in the US 'fascism' and its sister terms 'fascist', 'neo-fascist', etc
> and,
> > probably 'communism' and its relatives are similarly predominantly used
> > disparagingly. 'Socialism' not so much.
> >
> > The phenomena disparaged by the use of the term 'cancel culture' seem to
> > include principally the boycotts, including secondary boycotts,
> facilitated
> > by social media, of businesses, especially consumer-oriented ones, and of
> > entertainment personalities because they are deemed to violate some moral
> > imperative, usually under the rubric of 'social justice' (a term which,
> > unlike SJW, is not predominantly pejorative). I think both the deeming
> and
> > the boycotting are the objects of the disparagement intended by use of
> the
> > term 'cancel.culture'.
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 2:19 PM Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > On Feb 5, 2021, at 8:36 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Cancel culture" has broadened its meaning to become "a movement to
> > > > suppress opposing political views.”
> > >
> > > Or, as an alternate gloss, ‘a movement to hold individuals accountable
> > for
> > > their actions and publicly stated views’. To demote a member who has
> > > expressed racist threats is not precisely an instance of opposing their
> > > political views.
> > >
> > > I’m also unclear on the scope--Do we really want to classify
> > > denazification in Germany (= 'the process of bringing the leaders of
> the
> > > National Socialist regime in Germany to justice and of purging all
> > elements
> > > of Nazism from public life, carried out especially between 1945 and
> > 1948’)
> > > merely an instance of cancel culture, i.e. the Allies’ suppressing
> > opposing
> > > political views? Maybe I’m not sure what “cancel culture” meant before
> it
> > > was broadened; it’s always reminded me of the use of “political
> > > correctness” to dismiss or ridicule those protesting hate speech or
> > threats
> > > of violence.
> > >
> > > LH
> > >
> > > >
> > > > E.g., from Yahoo! News:
> > > >
> > > > "The former Trump and Bush adviser said the decision to root out
> > > extremism
> > > > in the military was 'cancel culture' and then disparaged Mr Biden's
> > pick
> > > > for Secretary of Defense by claiming he was likely hired solely
> because
> > > he
> > > > is Black."
> > > >
> > > > JL
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 2:19 PM Jonathan Lighter <
> > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> CNN chyron:
> > > >>
> > > >> "Trump Wants To Cancel Goodyear."
> > > >>
> > > >> He wants us to boycott it.
> > > >>
> > > >> JL
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:26 PM ADSGarson O'Toole <
> > > >> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Bill Mullins wrote:
> > > >>>> Earlier in Twitter -- Oct 28, 2016:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> https://twitter.com/unicorninkk/status/792025338616418304
> > > >>>> "I hate cancel culture until I want to set things on fire! "
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Worthwhile topic, Fred. Great citation, Bill.
> > > >>> I initiated a germane thread back in May 2019.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [Ads-l] Word/Phrase: cancel, cancel culture, cancellation culture
> > > >>>
> > http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2019-May/154643.html
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The mailing list message included some tweets with the phrase: "You
> > > >>> have been cancelled". The precise meaning was not always clear. The
> > > >>> tweet citations begin on Nov 22 2008.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Dave Wilton initiated a pertinent thread in February 2020.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> [Ads-l] Cancel culture, cancel (2018)
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2020-February/156597.html
> > > >>>
> > > >>> John Baker mentioned the Mashable.com article dated Nov 18, 2017
> > which
> > > >>> was referenced in a tweet.
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2020-February/156598.html
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Dave Wilton presented a tweet together with a reply tweet that
> > > >>> exhibited the desired sense on Feb 8, 2017.
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2020-February/156599.html
> > > >>> https://twitter.com/DougieFresh818/status/829410105502400513
> > > >>> https://twitter.com/chazzsplash/status/829410413091631105
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The tweet found by Bill Mullins appears to be the earliest
> currently
> > > >>> mentioned on this mailing list.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Garson
> > > >>>
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> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > truth."
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