[Ads-l] -ski, whatevski(s), broski

Joe Salmons 000008f18d0e0c45-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
Mon Jul 5 10:54:47 EDT 2021


Yeah, a set of the earliest attestations are playing on names, which I read as supporting the Slavic connection.
Joe

From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
Date: Monday, July 5, 2021 at 9:52 AM
To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
Subject: Re: -ski, whatevski(s), broski
And HDAS has a cite from 1902 with the spelling “buttinsky” (a reference to someone being a member of “the Buttinsky Family”).

LH

> On Jul 5, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Joe Salmons <000008f18d0e0c45-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> wrote:
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> In fact, buttinski may be the oldest really widespread one, judging from NGramViewer … it’s defined in a business article from 1909, link below. Green’s Dictionary of Slang (which has it starting as a campus thing) and looking very productive (darnfoolski, runski, toughsky titsky) in the early 20th c. Learn something every day.
> Thanks, everybody!
> Joe
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> https://www.google.com/books/edition/Business_Philosopher/HHBMAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22buttinsky%22&pg=PA16&printsec=frontcover
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> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of Stephen Goranson <goranson at DUKE.EDU>
> Date: Monday, July 5, 2021 at 9:36 AM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Subject: Re: -ski, whatevski(s), broski
> If I may be a buttinsky....
> SG
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> Subject: Re: -ski, whatevski(s), broski
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> A 1978 hit from an SNL episode is the earliest cite in Jon’s HDAS.  I assume that “brewski” was the clear sponsor of both “broski” and “bluntski” on phonological and semantic grounds respectively.
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> LH
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>> On Jul 5, 2021, at 9:33 AM, Joe Salmons <000008f18d0e0c45-dmarc-request at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> wrote:
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>> Brewski may well be the oldest one of the set, yeah, though I don’t have any evidence on that, but it’s clearly become at least somewhat productive.
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>> From: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU> on behalf of Alan Knutson <boris1951 at CHARTER.NET>
>> Date: Monday, July 5, 2021 at 8:32 AM
>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: -ski, whatevski(s), broski
>> Considering your location, I would have thought you had heard of a brewski?
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>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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>> From: Joe Salmons
>> Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 8:17 AM
>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>> Subject: -ski, whatevski(s), broski
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>> SURELY somebody on this list has written about the -ski derivational suffix. I’ve heard/seen it in the two forms in the subject line – see ‘whatevs’ and ‘bro’ -- and Urban Dictionary points to broader use (“time for a bluntski”, etc.) I’m curious about how productive it is and what the origins might be. Intuitively, I could see some kind of Mock Slavic thing going on, but don’t know how to get evidence for that. Looking for basically anything on this one.
>> Thanks,
>> Joe
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