<html><head></head><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font size=2 color="#000000" face="Arial">Wow!<br>Easy there, Joe.<br><br>----------<br>> From: Joseph Carson <<font color="#0000FF"><u>samizdata@earthlink.net</u><font color="#000000">><br>> To: <font color="#0000FF"><u>ADS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU</u><font color="#000000"><br>> Subject: Re: four-twenty<br>> Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 9:49 AM<br>> <br>> Greetings to all ADS-Listers,<br>> <br>> This is a phrase that's used in the San Francisco neighborhood we all love<br>> to Haight, indeed. The derivation has puzzled me as well, but whatever it<br>> means (or meant, since I'll bet it refers to a G. Dead song lyric or some<br>> other classic beatnik or hippie era source,) in its original usage is<br>> probably irrelevant to the purpose it's put to now ... tangential reference<br>> is characteristic of the Deadhead mentality, and the shelled-out post-Flower<br>> Power- and- Sid Vicious retreads roaming the Haight Street Corridor at will,<br>> (or random, or both,) in search of dope (or legal medicinal substitutes such<br>> as methadone,) could care less what the words mean, or where they came from,<br>> as long as they get high ... what a place! Give me the stinking gutters of<br>> the Tenderloin anytime ... what? oh, why thank you! (re: best be careful<br>> what you wish for) ... however, I wonder the same thing as Steve K., since<br>> if nothing else, Deadheads sustain an oral tradition that's equal to<br>> anything drug fiends in the Mission ever devised ... are there any Deadheads<br>> in our house? - Livin' on reds, vitamin C and cocaine, still (barely)<br>> truckin' on - Joseph C. ('60s anachronism)<br>> <br>> "Steve K." wrote: "I didn't chime in earlier, because I figured someone else<br>> would, but it's my understanding that there's also been a longstanding 4:20<br>> tie-in to the Greatful Dead, as in the question "It's 4:19, do you have a<br>> minute?" (a sentiment that has been since bumper-stickerized) as a way of<br>> asking anyone if they had any pot to sell. (I mention the Greatful Dead,<br>> because the bumper stickers I've seen like that were associated with the<br>> Greatful Dead.) If there's a deadhead out there than can further enlighten<br>> us with their connection to the phrase, please chime in!"</p>
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