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<div>At 10:50 AM -0400 8/22/01, Mark Mandel wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>On NPR last night (about 6:12 pm,
2001-8-21), in a story on Jesse Helms's<br>
retirement announcement, a North Carolinian whose name I didn't catch
said<br>
of Elizabeth Dole "I think she wins if she runs", meaning
what I would have<br>
said as "I think she'll win if she runs".<br>
<br>
I think we had a thread about this a few months back, but iirc that
was</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>mostly or entirely in sports usage.<br>
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<div>The thread we had was more the present for the
counterfactual: Examples from our first (1995) exchange on the
topic (the second and third were my inventions, but based on actual
citations involving the sportscasters' historical counterfactual
present):</div>
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<div><font color="#000000">"If Justice doesn't catch that it's a
double and the go-ahead run is in."</font><br>
<font color="#000000"></font></div>
<div><font color="#000000">"If the Glide doesn't give that hard
foul, Kidd goes in for an uncontested lay-up"<br>
<br>
"if he doesn't deflect that pass, it goes for an easy
touchdown"</font></div>
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<div><font color="#000000">larry</font></div>
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