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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Did anyone else note "... most _flaming_ independent of them all ..."?<BR>This seems to match the OED Online's def.5:<BR><BR>5. Flagrant, glaring, monstrous. ? Obs.<BR><BR>whose latest cite dates to 1737. Also, don't phrases such as "flaming<BR>asshole" show that this meaning isn't obsolete?<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">my response: "Independent" was implicitly defined in the original as the antonym of "Churchman".</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">My guess is that "flaming" here has the same meaning as it does in on-line mailing lists.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">"Senator ____ was admitted to the hospital for the treatment of severe rectal burns, thereby supplying medical proof to what everyone has long suspected: that the Senator is a flaming asshole."</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">and more politely</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">"I'm sorry, sir, the Senator is incongrous today"</FONT></DIV>
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<TD><PRE><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">Also FWIW, I agree with Jim P. As soon as I saw " ... have the face to
mention ...," I thought, "have the ball(ock)s / gall / 'nads / etc. to
mention ..." And "Majesty" is also my WAG for "M__y." On the other
hand, the poop deck, though at the rear of a ship, is also usually the
highest point on the deck. Hence, "poop" could refer to the "_peak_ of
his performance." But, of course, that's only another WAG.
my response: Perhaps I should quote the entire paragraph:</FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"> "And lastly, as for the TRrumpet of Disaffection, which he [the writer of the letter being responsed to] blows at the Poop of his Performance, I dare aver that no true Churchman willever dance to his Music, let him even distend his Buccinators till they burst, or break his Wind in the fruitless Effort. Peccet ad extremyum ridendus, et illia ducat"</FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2">As for the meaning of "face", the writer is incoherent but as best as I can figure out he is saying "would have the courtesy/honesty/etc. to mention..." </FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face="Arial, sans-serif" size="2"> - Jim Landau</FONT></PRE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV><BR> <BR>
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