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<font size=3>At 7/13/2008 08:13 PM, ronbutters@AOL.COM wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">It seems fair to conclude that
"diddle" means 'fuck'--one could substitute "fuck" in
all of these uses and the meaning would be
uunchanged.</font></blockquote><br>
Perhaps one could substitute "fuck" and get an understandable
meaning -- but it might be different.. I go for both 2.a. and
2.b. My first assumption to hearing "diddle" is
masturbate, probably from my callow youth in the 1950s. Any mix of
genders, in either role; and "he/she diddled" or "diddled
him/herself" for the solo situation. In 1 (glazier), I change
my assumption when hearing the rest of the sentence.<br><br>
"Diddle" = 'masturbate' can fit 3 (gerbil) and 5; perhaps even
4.<br><br>
Joel<br><br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Benjamin Barrett <gogaku@IX.NETCOM.COM><br><br>
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008
14:15:20<br>
To: <ADS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU><br>
Subject: [ADS-L] Who's diddling and
how?<br><br>
<br>
Just as a forewarning, there are some pretty X-rated citations
below.<br><br>
The AHD4's definitions of diddle include:<br><br>
1. to jerk up and down or back and forth<br>
2. vulgar slang<br>
a. to have intercourse with (a woman)<br>
b. to practice masturbation upon<br><br>
My concern is the relevance of "(a woman)". Generally, I
take this<br>
sort of definition to be a remnant of older heterocentrist
definitions<br>
and intended to mean "to play the active part in sexual
intercourse",<br>
but it seems that not even that is adequate:<br><br>
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The Ball of Kirriemuir
(<a href="http://www.turoks.net/Bordello/TheBallOfKirriemuir.htm" eudora="autourl">
http://www.turoks.net/Bordello/TheBallOfKirriemuir.htm</a>) provides 17
examples of diddle:<br><br>
1. The village glazier he was there, with his prick of glass<br>
He diddled 'em in their cunnys, and also in the ass!<br><br>
1. the ladies wouldna have 'em, so they diddled dogs and trees!<br><br>
2. The old fishmonger he was there, a dirty stinkin sod<br>
He never got a rise that night, so he diddled 'em with a cod!<br><br>
3. Clan MacChluarain they were there, chasin' round the Keep<br>
And every single man of them buggerin' a sheep!<br><br>
(insert name) had a gerbil, he diddled it very well<br>
He didn't wrap it in duct tape: he blew it all to hell!<br><br>
4. (Insert name), she was there, and she is past eighteen;<br>
She is a rapier fighter, so she diddled Florentine!<br><br>
5. Jack Sprat could eat no fat, his wife could eat no lean,<br>
So she did the Fubba-Wubbas, while he diddled a Marine...!<br>
-----<br><br>
I think this covers just about every male/female/animal pairing<br>
possibility, demonstrating that diddle is not limited to just a man<br>
having intercourse with a woman. And Wiktionary agrees, saying
"to<br>
have sex with".<br><br>
-----<br>
Also, in Letters to Penthouse X
(<a href="http://tinyurl.com/6feo6h" eudora="autourl">
http://tinyurl.com/6feo6h</a>, page 131,<br>
2000), there's "cockhead...as she diddled her clit with it."
While<br>
this appears more related to definition 1 than 2, there are these as<br>
well, which hint to the development of definitions 2 from 1:<br><br>
6. She diddled herself [with a baster].<br>
(The Sperm in Amy Lowe's Frig, by Roberta Price,
<a href="http://www.prisoners.com/amysperm.html" eudora="autourl">
http://www.prisoners.com/amysperm.html</a>)<br><br>
7. As she diddled herself with a candle,<br>
(Street of the thousand assholes,
http://www.odps.org/glossword/index.php?a=term&d=5&t=143)<br>
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I have trouble understanding what definition 2b actually means. Does<br>
this mean to masturbate and ejaculate on someone? Do you "diddle
on/<br>
upon" someone? I think this is what Danny Glover's character did
in<br>
_The Color Purple_ instead of sex, though Whoopi Goldberg's
character<br>
called it "his business".<br><br>
Wiktionary says "to masturbate (especially of women)".<br><br>
Google has only a few hits for "he diddled on". Of the three
citations<br>
that seem relevant, only one is available:<br><br>
1. He diddled on the ground and, at long last, looked up and said:
let<br>
him who has not sinned be the first to cast the first stone at the<br>
sinner.<br>
I assume he's talking about Onan here, though in the text, Jesus is<br>
the antecedent of "he". (What Should be Africans Attitude to
Americans<br>
War on Terror by Ozodi Thomas Osuji, 19 Oct 2006
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/5jxlbq" eudora="autourl">
http://tinyurl.com/5jxlbq</a>)<br><br>
Okay, no more diddling around. Back to work!<br>
BB<br><br>
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