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<font size=3>As I've been instructed by Jesse, if one wants to search for
quotations (a word or a phrase) one should go to "Advanced
Search", and in the tab "Search in:
Entries/Senses/Quotations" select "Quotations". The
Results List is then occurrences within *individual* quotations, rather
than over entire entries; the quotation and its date are displayed,
rather than the entry and its date; and one can click on the *quotation*
(not the entry word) and see the whole quotation in its context in the
dictionary. <br><br>
This change in mode (Search in) alters both the screen choices and the
nature of the results so significantly that I want it recognized in the
Help information for Advanced search. Right now each of the
possible entry fields is described independently, at one level of
explanation. This should be structured into two levels, the first
level being the "Search in" choices.<br><br>
For a phrase, you don't need to quote it. Quote marks seem to
prevent recognition; I guess they are treated literally, like
letters.<br><br>
If you search within Entries for "beyond the pale", you get 11
hits, for 11 different *entries* in which it occurs. If you search
within Quotations, you get 18 hits, for 18 different *quotations* -- 8 of
those are in the entry "pale, n.1".<br><br>
But also, "beyond the pale" appears under "pale,
n.1", sense 5.c., which "Quick search" followed by
scrolling will find.<br><br>
Joel<br><br>
At 1/2/2011 06:47 PM, George Thompson wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">... I did check it out in the
OED, which claimed to have never heard of the expression.<br>
I see that putting words into quotes gets it terribly confused.<br><br>
GAT<br><br>
George A. Thompson<br>
Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre",
Northwestern Univ. Pr., 1998, but nothing much lately.<br><br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Joel S. Berson" <Berson@ATT.NET><br>
Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011 1:26 pm<br>
Subject: Re: "beyond the pale"<br>
To: ADS-L@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU<br><br>
> At 1/2/2011 11:51 AM, George Thompson wrote:<br>
> >My impression is that "beyond the pale" refers<br>
> >to the Pale of Settlement that separated the<br>
> >English from the barbaric Irish in 17th C Ireland.<br>
><br>
> You are incorrect in that "beyond the pale"<br>
> *also* refers to being outside the Russian Pale<br>
> of Settlement, from probably the late 19th<br>
> century on. Google "Pale of Settlement"
(quoted)<br>
> + "Jews" and see the many uses. This sense is absent
from the OED.<br>
><br>
> It also refers to "The territory of Calais in<br>
> northern France when under English jurisdiction<br>
> (13471558)", and in fact this use in English<br>
> appears c1453, antedating by 100 years the use<br>
> with reference to Ireland (a1549), which of course is before the
17th<br>
> century.<br>
><br>
> Check it out in the OED.<br>
><br>
> Joel<br>
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