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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Many thanks for the helpful replies to my question.<span style> </span>I am looking into the resources that have
been suggested thus far and I'm excited to see where they lead.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I’ve reached out in private correspondence to those who have
offered their assistance, and I will be in touch with them with regard to their
particular areas of expertise surrounding this topic.<span style> </span>I will, of course, welcome any further input that
may be offered. <span style> </span>It’s been wonderful to
receive such genuine and promising replies from this group.</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best,</p><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sarah</p>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:35 AM, Guillaume Jacques <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rgyalrongskad@gmail.com" target="_blank">rgyalrongskad@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Dear Sarah,<div><br></div><div>First of all, comparing Cree and Menominee directly might be difficult because Cree merges short *e and *i, while Menominee has undergone a very complex vseries of owel shifts that depends on many factors, including number of vowels in the word, presence of a glottal cluster in the first syllable of the word etc. Rather than Bloomfield's sketchy account, I would suggest reading Hockett's detailed article (I can provide a copy if your institution does not allow access to this journal):</div>
<div><br></div><div>Hockett, C. F. 1981. The Phonological History of Menominee. Anthropological Linguistics 23. 51-87.<br></div><div><br></div><div>However, even this article is not explicit enough in all details, and requires a careful reading. The correspondences between Menominee and PA (and even more, between M and Cree) cannot be stated in a simple table like the one you show. For PA vowels, the easiest solution is to use Fox, which preserves them almost without change from PA (except word-initial *e-). Since Ives Goddard's dictionary has just been published, Fox data are now much more accessible than before.</div>
<div><br></div><div>At the present moment I am working with my colleage Thomas Pellard on a program applying the sound laws from PA to Menominee (and the other way round), but it is needs a lot of debugging.<br></div><div>
<br></div><div>Have a look at Hewson's dictionary for an updated list of PA finals:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.mun.ca/linguistics/people/faculty/protoalgonkian.php" target="_blank">http://www.mun.ca/linguistics/people/faculty/protoalgonkian.php</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>If you have a more detailed list of the finals you are interested in (with the verb conjugation AI/II/TA/TI, if possible, to avoid any misunderstandings), maybe we can have a look.</div><div><br></div>
<div>Guillaume</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-09-04 0:10 GMT+02:00 Sarah Lundquist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sjlundquist@wisc.edu" target="_blank">sjlundquist@wisc.edu</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Hi all,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial">
<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5pt;background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">My advisor Monica Macaulay and I are
attempting to ascertain correspondence for a set of vowels in Cree and
Menominee. In his "sketch,”
Bloomfield (1946) states that:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">PA *i & *ii split into Menominee i, ii and e, ee<br>
PA *o & *oo split into Menominee u, uu and o, oo<br>
PA *e split into M e and ae (what he writes with epsilon ɛ)<br>
PA *ee became M long ae (a͞e, or ɛɛ)<br>
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PA *i and *e merged to i in Cree</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I am working on a paper which relies upon a comparison of
Cree and Menominee AI finals. Monica and I believe that following the
information above, the Cree/Menominee cognates for the finals should be as
follows:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> C M<br>
-ee -a͞e<br>
-o -o<br>
-aw -aw<br>
-isi -isi/-ese/-aese (varies in Menominee)<br>
-isii -isii/-esii/ -aesii (ditto)<br>
-in -in/-en (ditto)<br>
-i -i/-e (ditto)<br>
-ii -ii/-ee (ditto)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:5pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">However, my knowledge of PA and
phonological patterns across Algonquian languages is very limited, and Monica
has suggested that I check with someone with more knowledge of the history of
the languages than she has. In general,
the meanings of these finals do seem to correspond, but one of the things that
I’m looking at with them is the ways in which they *don’t* correspond; so we
can’t really use the meanings as a way to decide the matter. Would anyone be willing to lend us a hand in
verifying that these morphemes are cognate?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Thanks,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Sarah <img alt="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif" height="1" width="1"><span><font color="#888888"><font size="3"></font></font></span></span></p>
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</p></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div></div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br>Guillaume Jacques<br>CNRS (CRLAO) - INALCO<br><a href="http://cnrs.academia.edu/GuillaumeJacques" target="_blank">http://cnrs.academia.edu/GuillaumeJacques</a><br>
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</p></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><div><font face="georgia, serif"><b>Sarah Lundquist</b> │Project Assistant, UW-Madison Dept. of Linguistics<br></font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif">Linguistics Student Organization Co-President<br></font></div><div><font face="georgia, serif">TLAM Student Organization Outreach Coordinator</font></div></div><a href="mailto:sjlundquist@wisc.edu" target="_blank"><font face="georgia, serif">sjlundquist@wisc.edu</font></a><br></div>
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