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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Danielle:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I don't know what I was thinking (it's late in the day and I have been in my office for most of it). The dual also appears in the patient. Both as agent and
patient it usually takes a -yi-, with some changes caused by the sounds that appear before it. In terms of the structure of the pronominal prefix, it comes at the end.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">John<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Danielle E. Cyr [mailto:dcyr@yorku.ca]
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<b>Sent:</b> November 19, 2014 4:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Steckley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Wolvengrey, Arok; ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re[2]: [Algonquiana] Prehistoric Language contact ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">John and Arok,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Thanks for your quick reply. Researching phonetic similarities would be a great start. I was rather thinking of lexical borrowings but your insight widens my interest !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Danielle<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Dr. Danielle E. Cyr, Senior Scholar at York University<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">339, boul. Perron ouest<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><a href="mailto:dcyr@yorku.ca">dcyr@yorku.ca</a> - 418.392.7271<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">---- Original Message ----<br>
<b>From</b>: John Steckley <John.Steckley@humber.ca><br>
<b>To</b>: "Wolvengrey, Arok" <awolvengrey@firstnationsuniversity.ca>, "Danielle E. Cyr" <dcyr@yorku.ca>, "ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG" <ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG><br>
<b>Sent</b>: Wed, Nov 19, 2014, 4:29 PM<br>
<b>Subject</b>: RE: [Algonquiana] Prehistoric Language contact ?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Danielle/Arok:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Wendat has a well-developed system of dual pronominal prefixes as agents (but not patients). Presumably
St. Lawrence Iroquoian did as well. It would be interesting to see whether some phonetic similarities appear between Mi'kmaq/Maliseet dual forms and those that Wendat has.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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[mailto:algonquiana-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wolvengrey, Arok<br>
<b>Sent:</b> November 19, 2014 4:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Danielle E. Cyr; ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Algonquiana] Prehistoric Language contact ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Hi Danielle,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">I'm not aware of anything actually written with regard to this, but there was some brief discussion
at the recent Algonquian conference (or was it online???) about the possible source or model for the introduction of the dual as a category in Micmac (and Maliseet?). Inuktitut could be one source, but Iroquoian was perhaps (?) favoured suggesting some contact
in the (lower? south eastern?) Great Lakes area. Others far more knowledgeable about the Eastern languages, please feel free to shoot these thoughts down as required.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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[algonquiana-bounces@listserv.linguistlist.org] on behalf of Danielle E. Cyr [dcyr@yorku.ca]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> November 19, 2014 3:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Algonquiana] Prehistoric Language contact ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black">DENNY, Peter J. 2003. Early Signs of Eastern Algonquians.
<i>Essays in Algonquian, Catawban and Siouan Linguistics in Memory of Frank T. Siebert Jr.</i> Blair A. Rudes and David J. Costa. Winnipeg: Algonquian and Iroquoian Linguistics, Memoir 16, p. 15-36.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">does anyone know about literature discussing prehistoric language contacts between Proto Eastern Algonquian
and other older languages ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Dr. Danielle E. Cyr, Senior Scholar at York University</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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