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    Frank Speck's immortal "Reptile Lore of the Northern Indians," <i>Journ
      of Am Folklore</i>, 1922 I think.<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/31/15 12:11 PM, Roland Bohr wrote:<br>
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        #000000;font-size: 10pt;">Hello All,
        <br>
        <br>
        I am looking for information on Algonquian ideas around snakes,
        especially for garter snakes in Blackfoot and Plains Cree
        cultures. So far, the works of Wissler and Mandelbaum that I
        could access, have not yielded much information.
        <br>
        <br>
        Any help with this would be much appreciated. <br>
        <br>
        Thank you, <br>
        <br>
        Roland Bohr <br>
        <br>
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          <div style="font-family:Tahoma; font-size:13px">Roland Bohr <br>
            Director, Centre for Rupert's Land Studies <br>
            5CM12 <br>
            University of Winnipeg <br>
            515 Portage Avenue <br>
            Winnipeg, Manitoba, <br>
            R3B 2E9 <br>
            <br>
            Ph.: (204) 786-9007 <br>
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              color="#000000" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b>
              ALGONQUIANA [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a>] on
              behalf of John Steckley [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:John.Steckley@HUMBER.CA">John.Steckley@HUMBER.CA</a>]<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 19, 2014 2:47 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: How Linguists Are Pulling Apart the
              Bering Strait Theor<br>
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              <p>The Australians are way ahead of us in connecting
                Aboriginal languages to specific places.  I learned this
                reading "Language in Native Title," edited by John
                Henderson and David Nash, 2002.   Language
                classification there, however, is still a series of
                knots to be untied.</p>
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              <div id="divRplyFwdMsg"><font color="#000000"
                  face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> ALGONQUIANA
                  [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a>] on behalf of
                  Bernie [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:plnal@HOTMAIL.COM">plnal@HOTMAIL.COM</a>]<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> August-19-14 12:59 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG">ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: How Linguists Are Pulling Apart
                  the Bering Strait Theor<br>
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                <div>I love our "creation story" in the Mi'kmaw culture
                  too, variations and all. But of course I don't take
                  them literally any more than I take the christian
                  bible literally.</div>
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                <div>Wela'lioq</div>
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                <div>bern francis<br>
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                  Sent from my iPad</div>
                <div><br>
                  On 2014-08-19, at 1:27 PM, "Michael Sullivan Sr" <<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:sulli720@UMN.EDU" target="_blank">sulli720@UMN.EDU</a>>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Some very interesting points made and
                      strong opinions expressed here.  I wonder though,
                      why does the so-called "creationist" perspective
                      bother your "scientifically-sound" camp so
                      greatly?  More imposition I assume.  "Think like
                      us, be like us."
                      <div><br>
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                      <div>Thankfully, most of us ignorant
                        "creationists" are taught to respect other
                        people's beliefs and teachings.  If only that
                        respect was mutual, we might have a chance at
                        saving some of these languages and cultures that
                        have endured more than their fair share of
                        imposition.  To deny the truth of a people's
                        tradition, is to deny the truth of their elders,
                        a cultural no-no.  Like language, a people's
                        traditions shape them, don't let that bother
                        you.  We've been down that road before.  </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>So, while the scientist digs up facts and
                        measures skulls to "prove" the "creationist"
                        wrong (for purposes of discrediting Native
                        American people as being indigenous to North
                        America), the creationist simply glances outside
                        into our creator's garden; for that is the all
                        the "proof" that we need.  </div>
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                      <div>Chi-miigwech to all of you who post here.  I
                        truly enjoy the read...</div>
                      <div><br>
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                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at
                        8:31 AM, Danielle E. Cyr <span dir="ltr">
                          <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:dcyr@yorku.ca" target="_blank">dcyr@yorku.ca</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          Worth to mention:<br>
                          <br>
                          1- Language changes are faster at the centre
                          of a linguistic area than farther away from
                          the centre. The European migrations into the
                          New World demonstrate it quite clearly. Same
                          with Icelandic compared to Norwegian. Although
                          some of us may think that this notion doesn't
                          apply to Aboriginal languages, my view is
                          different. For instance, the Mi'gmaq spoken in
                          Listuguj, QC, is more advanced than that of,
                          say Burnt Church, NB. Listuguj was considered
                          the centre (i.e. major hub) of the Northern
                          Mi'gmaq area and the phonetic erosion there is
                          way more advanced than at the periphery.<br>
                          <br>
                          2- As research in the domain of
                          grammaticalization shows very clearly,
                          grammatical change is absorbed by different
                          speakers at different speeds.<br>
                          <br>
                          These two facts allow us to assume that
                          language change, although constantly in action
                          through time, is very uneven in space and
                          among groups of individuals.<br>
                          <br>
                          Best to All,<br>
                          Danielle E.<br>
                          <div><br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            >---- Original Message ----<br>
                            >From: John Steckley <<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:John.Steckley@HUMBER.CA"
                              target="_blank">John.Steckley@HUMBER.CA</a>><br>
                            >To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG"
                              target="_blank">ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a><br>
                            >Sent: Mon, Aug 18, 2014, 6:24 PM<br>
                            >Subject: Re: How Linguists Are Pulling
                            Apart the Bering Strait Theor<br>
                            ><br>
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                          <div>>Michael:<br>
                            ><br>
                            >I like the coastal migration model for
                            the first folks here, possibly coming up
                            from Southeast Asia, as some geneticists
                            suggest,  but that's not what the writers
                            were saying.  They worked  very hard at not
                            saying what their theory was.  But I have
                            never believed, as there has never been any
                            evidence backing it up, that major language
                            change operates at a uniform rate.  But then
                            I also don't believe that long term genetic
                            mutation happens at a uniform rate, as that
                            is often assumed but never proven. 
                            Glottochronology has always had a little too
                            much of the assuming behind it for me to
                            take it seriously.  Language changes most
                            and fastest when major social events happen,
                            like intense contact, separation and long
                            trail migration.  And who is to say that the
                            language change happened in the Americas. 
                            It is just as likely that that diversity
                            existed in Asia before they came here. 
                            There is no proof either way as yet.<br>
                            ><br>
                            >John<br>
                            ><br>
                            >________________________________________<br>
                            >From: Michael McCafferty [<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:mmccaffe@indiana.edu"
                              target="_blank">mmccaffe@indiana.edu</a>]<br>
                            >Sent: August-18-14 6:11 PM<br>
                            >To: Algonquian Conference List; John
                            Steckley<br>
                          </div>
                          >Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG"
                            target="_blank">ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a><br>
                          <div>>Subject: Re: How Linguists Are
                            Pulling Apart the Bering Strait Theor<br>
                            ><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div class="h5">>The Pacific Coastal
                              migration model has been around for quite
                              a while.<br>
                              >James Dixon is a well known figure in
                              explaining this path into the<br>
                              >Americas. There's good evidence that
                              even during glacial maxima there<br>
                              >were ice free coastal zones where
                              bears and humans could and did live,<br>
                              >as well of course other sea mammals.
                              The isotopic signature for the<br>
                              >bone of a young man discovered in one
                              of Dixon's digs was the same as<br>
                              >that of a seal. People were drawing
                              their protein from the sea.<br>
                              ><br>
                              >The earliest migrants may have come
                              out of Asia during not the recent<br>
                              >glacial maximum 14,000 years ago or so
                              but the *previous* glacial<br>
                              >maximum, ca. 35,000 years ago, and in
                              fact are thought to be of the<br>
                              >original migrants *into* Asia. (See
                              Kennewick Man, Spirit Cave Man, et<br>
                              >al.). I haven't talked to all
                              linguists, but I think there may be a<br>
                              >somewhat shared sense that it would
                              take a good 40,000 years for the<br>
                              >American linguistic diversification to
                              have taken place, not counting<br>
                              >new migrants.<br>
                              ><br>
                              >Michael McCafferty<br>
                              ><br>
                              >Quoting John Steckley <<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:John.Steckley@HUMBER.CA"
                                target="_blank">John.Steckley@HUMBER.CA</a>>:<br>
                              ><br>
                              >> Unfortunately, this reads like a
                              creationist story.  It makes<br>
                              >> reference to old works, such as
                              that of Jefferson, who was hardly a<br>
                              >> scholar on the subject.  The 
                              language diversity  in Australia is<br>
                              >> greatest in the northern points
                              where new peoples entered.  There is<br>
                              >> nothing dramatic about saying
                              that 60,000 years ago there were people<br>
                              >> there.  That has been known
                              archaeologically for at least 20 years.<br>
                              >> Africa has far greater language
                              diversity than the Americas, but then<br>
                              >> anatomically modern Homo sapiens
                              has been there for over 100,000<br>
                              >> years.  There might be a small
                              backwards movement to Asia but the<br>
                              >> evidence archaeologically and
                              linguistically is weak.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >><br>
                              >><br>
                              >> The worst part of this is that no
                              counter idea is proposed to Bering<br>
                              >> Strait.  I suspect that they want
                              to say that people have 'always<br>
                              >> been here' which is a form of
                              creationism.  We are all Africans, and<br>
                              >> people who think differently do
                              not know their science and want to be<br>
                              >> treated as somehow specially
                              created.  Unfortunately, in this case<br>
                              >> where there is Smoke there is
                              only the fire of creationism that does<br>
                              >> not want to speak its name.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >><br>
                              >><br>
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                          <div>>> ________________________________<br>
                            >> From: ALGONQUIANA [<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG"
                              target="_blank">ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a>]
                            on behalf<br>
                            >> of Richard Preston [<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:prestonr@MCMASTER.CA"
                              target="_blank">prestonr@MCMASTER.CA</a>]<br>
                            >> Sent: August-18-14 3:22 PM<br>
                            >> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG"
                              target="_blank">ALGONQUIANA@LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG</a><br>
                            >> Subject: Fwd: How Linguists Are
                            Pulling Apart the Bering Strait Theor<br>
                            >><br>
                            >> cheers<br>
                            >> Dick<br>
                            >><br>
                            >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.richardpreston.ca/"
                              target="_blank">http://www.richardpreston.ca/</a><br>
                            >><br>
                            >> Begin forwarded message:<br>
                            >><br>
                          </div>
                          >> Fsrom: Jennifer Preston<br>
                          >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jennifer@quakerservice.ca"
                            target="_blank">jennifer@quakerservice.ca</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jennifer@quakerservice.ca"
                            target="_blank">jennifer@quakerservice.ca</a>>><br>
                          <div>>> Subject: Fwd: How Linguists Are
                            Pulling Apart the Bering Strait Theor<br>
                            >> Date: August 18, 2014 at 3:17:22 PM
                            EDT<br>
                          </div>
                          >> To: Dick Preston <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:prestonr@mcmaster.ca"
                            target="_blank">prestonr@mcmaster.ca</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:prestonr@mcmaster.ca"
                            target="_blank">prestonr@mcmaster.ca</a>>><br>
                          >><br>
                          >><br>
                          >><br>
                          >> Begin forwarded message:<br>
                          >><br>
                          >> From: Daniel Smoke <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:dsmoke@uwo.ca" target="_blank">dsmoke@uwo.ca</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:dsmoke@uwo.ca" target="_blank">dsmoke@uwo.ca</a>>><br>
                          <div>>> Subject: Fwd: How Linguists Are
                            Pulling Apart the Bering Strait Theor<br>
                            >> Date: 8 August, 2014 6:42:31 AM EDT<br>
                          </div>
                          >> To: Jean Koning <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jean.koning@live.ca"
                            target="_blank">jean.koning@live.ca</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jean.koning@live.ca"
                            target="_blank">jean.koning@live.ca</a>>><br>
                          >> Cc: Al Day <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:aday@namerind.on.ca"
                            target="_blank">aday@namerind.on.ca</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:aday@namerind.on.ca"
                            target="_blank">aday@namerind.on.ca</a>>>,
                          Pam<br>
                          >> Palmater<br>
                          >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca"
                            target="_blank">ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca"
                            target="_blank">ppalmater@politics.ryerson.ca</a>>>,
                          Gary<br>
                          >> Farmer<br>
                          >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:garytroublemaker@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">garytroublemaker@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:garytroublemaker@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">garytroublemaker@gmail.com</a>>>,<br>
                          >> Cyndy Baskin <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:cbaskin@ryerson.ca"
                            target="_blank">cbaskin@ryerson.ca</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:cbaskin@ryerson.ca"
                            target="_blank">cbaskin@ryerson.ca</a>>>,
                          Raven<br>
                          >> Redbird <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:sfive@rogers.com"
                            target="_blank">sfive@rogers.com</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:sfive@rogers.com"
                            target="_blank">sfive@rogers.com</a>>>,
                          Carrie Lester<br>
                          >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:lester.carrie@rogers.com"
                            target="_blank">lester.carrie@rogers.com</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:lester.carrie@rogers.com"
                            target="_blank">lester.carrie@rogers.com</a>>>,
                          Jennifer<br>
                          >> Preston-Howe<br>
                          >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jennifer@quakerservice.ca"
                            target="_blank">jennifer@quakerservice.ca</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jennifer@quakerservice.ca"
                            target="_blank">jennifer@quakerservice.ca</a>>>,
                          Ken<br>
                          >> Deer <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:kennethdeer104@hotmail.com"
                            target="_blank">kennethdeer104@hotmail.com</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:kennethdeer104@hotmail.com"
                            target="_blank">kennethdeer104@hotmail.com</a>>>,<br>
                          >> Deb Aaaron<br>
                          >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:debaaron@newcreditfirstnation.com"
                            target="_blank">debaaron@newcreditfirstnation.com</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:debaaron@newcreditfirstnation.com"
                            target="_blank">debaaron@newcreditfirstnation.com</a>>>,
                          Peter Cole <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:coyoteandraven@mac.com"
                            target="_blank">coyoteandraven@mac.com</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
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                            target="_blank">coyoteandraven@mac.com</a>>>,

                          Anita Rooke <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                            target="_blank">arooke@gcna.com</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
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                            target="_blank">arooke@gcna.com</a>>>,
                          Ward Churchill <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:wardchurchill@yahoo.com"
                            target="_blank">wardchurchill@yahoo.com</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:wardchurchill@yahoo.com"
                            target="_blank">wardchurchill@yahoo.com</a>>>,

                          Blanche<br>
                          >> Meawassige<br>
                          >> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:meawassige@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">meawassige@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
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                            target="_blank">meawassige@gmail.com</a>>><br>
                          <div>>><br>
                            >><br>
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                            >><br>
                            >><br>
                            >><br>
                            >><br>
                            >><br>
                            >> Mary Lou and Dan Smoke<br>
                            >> Adjunct Professors<br>
                            >> Smoke Signals, #3255 SSC<br>
                            >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://london.ctvnews.ca/more/smoke-signals"
                              target="_blank">http://london.ctvnews.ca/more/smoke-signals</a><br>
                            >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://www.facebook.com/#1/ctvsmokesignals"
                              target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/#1/ctvsmokesignals</a><br>
                          </div>
                          >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://www.chrwradio.ca"
                            target="_blank">http://www.chrwradio.ca</a><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://www.chrwradio.ca/"
                            target="_blank">http://www.chrwradio.ca/</a>><br>
                          <div>>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://chrwradio.ca/content/smoke-signals"
                              target="_blank">http://chrwradio.ca/content/smoke-signals</a><br>
                            >> 94.9 FM CHRW<br>
                            >> Sundays 6:30 - 8:00 p.m. EST<br>
                            >> CHRW 2013 Outstanding Specialty
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                            >> 519 661-2111 x85083 for messages<br>
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                          </div>
                          >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:dsmoke@uwo.ca" target="_blank">dsmoke@uwo.ca</a><mailto:<a
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                          >><br>
                          >> From: Daniel Smoke <<a
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                            href="mailto:dsmoke@uwo.ca" target="_blank">dsmoke@uwo.ca</a><mailto:<a
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                          <div>>> Subject: How Linguists Are
                            Pulling Apart the Bering Strait Theor<br>
                            >> Date: 8 August, 2014 6:33:19 AM EDT<br>
                          </div>
                          >> To: Donald Smoke <<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:donaldosmoke@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">donaldosmoke@gmail.com</a><mailto:<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:donaldosmoke@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">donaldosmoke@gmail.com</a>>><br>
                          >><br>
                          >><br>
                          >><br>
                          >> [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://d1jrw5jterzxwu.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/article_media/lingusitic-families-of-american-indians-powell.jpg"
                            target="_blank">http://d1jrw5jterzxwu.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/article_media/lingusitic-families-of-american-indians-powell.jpg</a>]<br>
                          <div>>> Close<br>
                            >><br>
                            >> Read more at<br>
                            >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/19/how-linguists-are-pulling-apart-bering-strait-theory-154063?page=0%2C0"
                              target="_blank">
http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/19/how-linguists-are-pulling-apart-bering-strait-theory-154063?page=0%2C0</a><br>
                            >><br>
                            >><br>
                            >> How Linguists Are Pulling Apart the
                            Bering Strait TheoryAlex<br>
                          </div>
                          >> Ewen<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/advanced/search?fq[0]=ts_field_full_name%3AAlex%20Ewen"
                            target="_blank">http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/advanced/search?fq[0]=ts_field_full_name%3AAlex%20Ewen</a>><br>
                          <div>>> 3/19/14<br>
                            >><br>
                            >> Over the past few weeks, new
                            scientific discoveries have rekindled<br>
                            >> the debate over the Bering Strait
                            Theory. Two of the discoveries were<br>
                            >> covered recently in Indian Country
                            Today. The first "More Reasons to<br>
                            >> Doubt the Bering Strait Migration
                            Theory," dealt with the growing<br>
                            >> problem of "science by press
                            release," as scientific studies hype<br>
                            >> their conclusions to the point that
                            they are misleading; and the<br>
                            >> second, "DNA Politics: Anzick Child
                            Casts Doubt on Bering Strait<br>
                            >> Theory," discussed how politics can
                            influence science, and the<br>
                            >> negative effects these
                            politically-based scientific results can
                            have<br>
                            >> on Native peoples.<br>
                            >><br>
                            >> RELATED:  More Reasons to Doubt the
                            Bering Strait Migration<br>
                          </div>
                          >> Theory<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/08/more-reasons-doubt-bering-strait-migration-theory"
                            target="_blank">http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/08/more-reasons-doubt-bering-strait-migration-theory</a>><br>
                          <div>>><br>
                            >> RELATED: DNA Politics: Anzick Child
                            Casts Doubt on Bering Strait<br>
                          </div>
                          >> Theory<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/11/dna-politics-anzick-child-casts-doubt-bering-strait-theory-153947"
                            target="_blank">https://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2014/03/11/dna-politics-anzick-child-casts-doubt-bering-strait-theory-153947</a>><br>
                          <div>>><br>
                            >> It is generally assumed that the
                            Bering Strait Theory has almost<br>
                            >> universal acceptance from
                            scientists. So, for example, the New York<br>
                            >> Times, in an article on March 12,
                            "Pause Is Seen in a Continent's<br>
                          </div>
                          >> Peopling<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/13/science/linguistic-study-sheds-new-light-on-peopling-of-north-america.html?_r=0"
                            target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/13/science/linguistic-study-sheds-new-light-on-peopling-of-north-america.html?_r=0</a>>"

                          stated unequivocally that "The first
                          migrations to North America occurred between
                          15,000 and 10,000 years ago," with the new
                          wrinkle that maybe on their way from Asia
                          Indian ancestors laid over in the Bering
                          Strait region (Beringia) for thousands of
                          years before traveling on to<br>
                          <div>>> the<br>
                            >> Americas.<br>
                            >><br>
                            >> Therefore it is usually presumed
                            that the primary critics of the<br>
                            >> theory must be anti-science, like
                            the "creationists" who argue<br>
                            >> against evolution, or New Age
                            pseudo-scientific conspiracy theorists.<br>
                            >> Thus in 1995, when the late Sioux
                            philosopher Vine Deloria Jr.<br>
                            >> published Red Earth, White Lies:
                            Native Americans and the Myth of<br>
                            >> Scientific Fact and challenged the
                            Bering Strait Theory, he was<br>
                            >> savagely attacked by many
                            scientists who lumped him in with those<br>
                            >> fringe groups.<br>
                            >><br>
                            >> The vitriol that poured from some
                            of the harshest critics, such as<br>
                            >> John Whittaker, a professor of
                            anthropology at Grinnell<br>
                          </div>
                          >> College<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grinnell_College" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grinnell_College</a>>,
                          who referred<br>
                          <div>
                            <div class="h5">>> to Deloria's book
                              as "a wretched piece of Native American
                              creationist<br>
                              >> claptrap," seemed excessive. The
                              critics also demonstrated that they<br>
                              >> clearly did not comprehend
                              Deloria's argument. Red Earth, White Lies,<br>
                              >> embroidered by Deloria's wry
                              sense of humor and rambling musings,<br>
                              >> shows he was not anti-science,
                              but rather anti-scientist. In<br>
                              >> particular, he was against those
                              scientists who held narrow views of<br>
                              >> the world, who had no respect for
                              other people's traditions, who<br>
                              >> fostered a cult of superiority
                              either for themselves or for their<br>
                              >> society, and who were afraid to
                              search for the truth unless it<br>
                              >> already conformed with
                              established opinion.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Deloria also argued that science,
                              when studying people, was not<br>
                              >> neutral. In his view, some
                              scientific theories harbored social and<br>
                              >> political agendas that were used
                              to deprive Indians and other<br>
                              >> minorities of their rights. Many
                              of the assumptions that underlay<br>
                              >> certain scientific principles
                              were based on obsolete religious or<br>
                              >> social views, and he urged
                              science to shed these dubious relics. The<br>
                              >> issue for Deloria was not science
                              vs. religion (or tradition), it was<br>
                              >> good science vs. bad science, and
                              in his view, the Bering Strait<br>
                              >> Theory was bad science.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Nor was Deloria alone in this
                              opinion. Since it was first proposed in<br>
                              >> the late 16th century, and
                              especially in its most recent incarnations<br>
                              >> in the late 19th and the 20th
                              centuries, the most vociferous critics<br>
                              >> of the Bering Strait Theory have
                              been scientists. Even among<br>
                              >> archaeologists and physical
                              anthropologists, generally the most<br>
                              >> dogmatic proponents of this
                              theory, it has always been extremely<br>
                              >> factious. And the abuse they
                              would heap upon each other was no less<br>
                              >> acidic than that they spewed on
                              outsiders.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> In 1892, when the geologist
                              George Frederick Wright published his<br>
                              >> massive study, Man and the
                              Glacial Period, which challenged some of<br>
                              >> the tenets of the Bering Strait
                              Theory as it was then formulated, he<br>
                              >> was attacked, as David J. Meltzer
                              pointed out in First Peoples in a<br>
                              >> New World, "with a barrage of
                              vicious reviews which were<br>
                              >> unprecedented in number and
                              savagery." One critic of the book,<br>
                              >> William John McGee, the head of
                              the Bureau of American Ethnology,<br>
                              >> "was especially bloodthirsty,
                              labeling Wright's work absurdly<br>
                              >> fallacious, unscientific, and an
                              'offense to the nostrils,' then<br>
                              >> dismissing him as 'a betinseled
                              charlatan whose potions are poison.<br>
                              >> Would that science might be well
                              rid of such harpies.'"<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> To understand just one of the
                              many scientific criticisms of the<br>
                              >> Bering Strait Theory, we go
                              halfway around the world to the<br>
                              >> continental mass known as the
                              Sahul, which includes Australia, New<br>
                              >> Guinea and surrounding islands.
                              Like the Americas, it had long been<br>
                              >> assumed by archaeologists that
                              the Indigenous Peoples who lived in<br>
                              >> that region had migrated there
                              from Asia just a few thousand years<br>
                              >> ago. It then came as a massive
                              shock to those same archaeologists<br>
                              >> when in 1968, near Lake Mungo in
                              Southeastern Australia, the<br>
                              >> geologist Jim Bowler discovered
                              the remains of a cremated woman who<br>
                              >> was subsequently
                              radiocarbon-dated to be between 25,000 and
                              32,000<br>
                              >> years old. Lake Mungo Woman, as
                              she came to be known, was repatriated<br>
                              >> to the Aboriginal community in
                              1992.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Yet this discovery had already
                              been anticipated by other scientists,<br>
                              >> for example, the linguists. The
                              Sahul is one of the most<br>
                              >> linguistically diverse areas in
                              the world, home to more than 1,000<br>
                              >> languages, about one-fifth of the
                              world's total. The linguists had<br>
                              >> already predicted that the "time
                              depth" required to achieve this type<br>
                              >> of linguistic diversity was
                              clearly not in the thousands of years,<br>
                              >> but in the tens of thousands of
                              years. Subsequent archaeological<br>
                              >> finds have now pushed back the
                              date of human occupation of Australia<br>
                              >> to a minimum of 45,000 years ago
                              and possibly 60,000 years ago.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> The only area in the world that
                              has a comparable level of linguistic<br>
                              >> diversity as the Sahul is the
                              Americas, and in certain very important<br>
                              >> respects, the Americas were even
                              more diverse. Since the very first<br>
                              >> period of contact between
                              Europeans and Indians, observers had<br>
                              >> marveled at how many different
                              languages and cultures were to be<br>
                              >> found. Thomas Jefferson, among
                              the leading scientists of his day,<br>
                              >> wrote in 1785 in his Notes on the
                              State of Virginia.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Imperfect as is our knowledge of
                              the tongues spoken in America, it<br>
                              >> suffices to discover the
                              following remarkable fact. Arranging them<br>
                              >> under the radical ones to which
                              they may be palpably traced, and<br>
                              >> doing the same by those of the
                              red men of Asia, there will be found<br>
                              >> probably twenty in America, for
                              one in Asia, of those radical<br>
                              >> languages, so called because, if
                              they were ever the same, they have<br>
                              >> lost all resemblance to one
                              another.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Today, linguists call Jefferson's
                              "radical languages," language<br>
                              >> families or stocks, each made up
                              of numerous languages and dialects.<br>
                              >> As Jefferson saw it, this
                              diversity clearly pointed to the great age<br>
                              >> of American Indians; "A
                              separation into dialects may be the work
                              of a<br>
                              >> few ages only, but for two
                              dialects to recede from one another till<br>
                              >> they have lost all vestiges of
                              their common origin, must require an<br>
                              >> immense course of time; perhaps
                              not less than many people give to the<br>
                              >> age of the earth."<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Based upon the linguistic
                              evidence, Jefferson believed that "a<br>
                              >> greater number of those radical
                              changes of language having taken<br>
                              >> place among the red men of
                              America, proves them of greater antiquity<br>
                              >> than those of Asia," and led him
                              to speculate that Asians may have<br>
                              >> been the descendants of early
                              American Indian migrations from the<br>
                              >> Americas to Asia.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Exactly how diverse the American
                              languages were became clearer in<br>
                              >> 1891, when the famed explorer and
                              director of the Bureau of<br>
                              >> Ethnology, John Wesley Powell,
                              released the monumental work, Indian<br>
                              >> Linguistic Families North of
                              Mexico. In his introduction, Powell<br>
                              >> explained that, "The North
                              American Indian tribes, instead of<br>
                              >> speaking related dialects,
                              originating in a single parent language,<br>
                              >> in reality speak many languages
                              belonging to distinct families, which<br>
                              >> have no apparent unity of
                              origin." Powell grouped the American
                              Indian<br>
                              >> languages in the U.S. and Canada
                              into 58 language families (or<br>
                              >> stocks) that could not be shown
                              to be related to one another.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Since Powell's day his
                              classification has been modified somewhat
                              and<br>
                              >> attempts to link many of these
                              language stocks together to create<br>
                              >> "super stocks" have met with
                              mixed success. Although what constitutes<br>
                              >> a family, stock or super stock is
                              a matter of continuing debate among<br>
                              >> linguists, today it is generally
                              accepted that there are 150<br>
                              >> different language stocks in the
                              Americas. To give some perspective<br>
                              >> to this diversity, there are more
                              language stocks in the Americas<br>
                              >> than in the rest of the world
                              combined.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> One of the 150 New World language
                              stocks, Eskimo-Aleut, also spans<br>
                              >> the Arctic and so has Asian and
                              European relatives. Another language<br>
                              >> super stock, Na-Dené, composed of
                              the language stocks Athabaskan,<br>
                              >> Tlingit and Eyak, and located in
                              Alaska and the northwest coast (but<br>
                              >> also in the southwestern U.S.),
                              is also believed to have relatives in<br>
                              >> Asia, possibly the Yeneisian
                              languages of central Siberia.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> It has long been suggested, and
                              the issue is not particularly<br>
                              >> controversial, that peoples
                              speaking Eskimo-Aleut and Na-Dené moved<br>
                              >> back and forth between Asia and
                              the Americas. A new study published<br>
                              >> on March 12 in the journal PLoS,
                              "Linguistic Phylogenies Support<br>
                              >> Back-Migration from Beringia to
                              Asia," found that Na-Dené is not<br>
                              >> descended from Yeneisian (as the
                              Bering Strait Theory would infer)<br>
                              >> but the other way around, that
                              there was a "back-migration into<br>
                              >> central Asia than a migration
                              from central or western Asia to North<br>
                              >> America." (As an aside, the
                              study, true to "science by press release"<br>
                              >> fashion, argues that this
                              supports the "Beringian Standstill"<br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          >> hypothesis-that Indians paused in
                          Beringia for thousands of years<br>
                          >> before colonizing the New World-but
                          the study only examined the<br>
                          <div>
                            <div class="h5">>> Na-Dené language
                              stock, whose speakers still live in the
                              Alaskan part<br>
                              >> of Beringia to this very day, and
                              so it would seem the study would<br>
                              >> just as easily support the
                              Na-Dené view that they have been there<br>
                              >> since time immemorial.)<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Other than Eskimo-Aleut and
                              Na-Dené, linguists have yet to find any<br>
                              >> connection with any language
                              stocks of the Americas and those of<br>
                              >> Asia. Along with the tremendous
                              hemispheric diversity, this created<br>
                              >> serious doubts about the dates
                              proposed by archaeologists and<br>
                              >> physical anthropologists for
                              Indian origins. At the beginning of the<br>
                              >> 20th century it was held to be at
                              most 10,000 years and generally<br>
                              >> only 5,000 years. In 1916, Edward
                              Sapir, among the most important and<br>
                              >> influential linguists in history,
                              countered the prevailing<br>
                              >> archaeological view; "ten
                              thousand years, however, seems a
                              hopelessly<br>
                              >> inadequate span of time for the
                              development from a homogeneous origin<br>
                              >> of such linguistic
                              differentiation as is actually found in
                              America."<br>
                              >> Instead he argued that, "the best
                              piece of evidence of great<br>
                              >> antiquity of man in America is
                              linguistic diversification rather than<br>
                              >> archaeological."<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> One of America's greatest
                              scientists, Franz Boas, generally<br>
                              >> considered to be the father of
                              modern anthropology and an important<br>
                              >> linguist in his own right, in his
                              classic study, Race, Language, and<br>
                              >> Culture, published in 1940, wrote
                              that not only were American Indian<br>
                              >> languages "so different among
                              themselves that it seems doubtful<br>
                              >> whether the period of 10,000
                              years is sufficient for their<br>
                              >> differentiation," but that the
                              evidence of extremely ancient Indians<br>
                              >> would some day be found, and
                              that, "all we can say, therefore, is<br>
                              >> that the search for early remains
                              must continue." Indeed, Boas was<br>
                              >> among the first to propose, based
                              on the evidence from an expedition<br>
                              >> that he led to the Bering Strait
                              region in 1897, the "back migration"<br>
                              >> from the Americas to Asia<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Linguists were not the only ones
                              who recognized the importance of the<br>
                              >> linguistic evidence. The great
                              British paleo-anthropologist Louis<br>
                              >> Leakey firmly believed that the
                              linguistic evidence showed that<br>
                              >> Indians were likely to be many
                              tens of thousands of years old and<br>
                              >> possibly much older, and shortly
                              before his death in 1972 he began to<br>
                              >> sponsor fieldwork in the Americas
                              in the hopes of proving this. But<br>
                              >> most American archaeologists and
                              physical anthropologists, where the<br>
                              >> dogmatism of the Bering Strait
                              Theory is most pronounced, dismissed<br>
                              >> or ignored the linguistic
                              evidence, leading people and the
                              mainstream<br>
                              >> press to assume that linguists
                              were silent on this subject, even<br>
                              >> though the reverse was true.<br>
                              >><br>
                              >> Starting in 1987, the tensions
                              between the proponents of the Bering<br>
                              >> Strait Theory and linguists
                              turned into open warfare as<br>
                              >> archaeologists and geneticists
                              used a highly disputed (and now<br>
                              >> completely discredited) theory by
                              the linguist Joseph Greenberg to<br>
                              >> claim that the linguistic
                              evidence now (after hundreds of years of<br>
                              >> refuting it) showed that Indians
                              migrated from Asia to the New World<br>
                              >> around 15,000 years ago. The
                              dispute led to a torrent of scientific<br>
                              >> papers by the world's most
                              prominent linguists denouncing the use of<br>
                              >> "non-science" and faulty data to
                              back the Bering Strait Theory. The<br>
                              >> archaeologists and geneticists
                              largely ignored the objections,<br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div>>> forcing a group of linguists-led
                            by Lyle<br>
                            >> Campbell<<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Campbell%20L%5Bauth%5D"
                              target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Campbell%20L%5Bauth%5D</a>>,<br>
                          </div>
                          <div>>> author of the standard work in
                            that field, American Indian Languages:<br>
                            >> the Historical Linguistics of
                            Native America, and Ives<br>
                          </div>
                          >> Goddard<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Goddard%20I%5Bauth%5D"
                            target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Goddard%20I%5Bauth%5D</a>>,<br>
                          <div>>> curator at the National Museum
                            of Natural History at the Smithsonian<br>
                            >> Institution and the linguistic and
                            technical editor of the massive<br>
                          </div>
                          >> Handbook of North American Indians-to
                          write to the American Journal<br>
                          <div>>> of Human Genetics in 2004 and
                            condemn the widespread use of<br>
                            >> pseudo-scientific linguistic
                            "evidence" in genetic studies about<br>
                            >> Indian origins.<br>
                            >><br>
                            >> The dispute also led the
                            influential linguist, Johanna Nichols, to<br>
                            >> publish "Linguistic Diversity and
                            the First Settlement of the New<br>
                            >> World," in the journal Language in
                            1990. In her introduction, she<br>
                            >> first made two important scientific
                            points: the diversity of the<br>
                            >> languages of the New World is due
                            to "the operation of regular<br>
                            >> principles of linguistic
                            geography;" and that the linguistic and<br>
                            >> archaeological evidence from the
                            Sahul clearly contradicted the<br>
                            >> attempts to assign early dates for
                            the Bering Strait migration, since<br>
                            >> the assignment of early dates in
                            the New World would create a<br>
                          </div>
                          >> scientific anomaly; "but such a
                          discrepancy-one of at least an order<br>
                          >> of magnitude-must be assumed if we
                          adhere to the Clovis [15,000 years<br>
                          <div>>> ago] or received chronology
                            [20,000 years ago] for the settlement of<br>
                            >> the New World."<br>
                            >><br>
                            >><br>
                            >><br>
                            >> Mary Lou and Dan Smoke<br>
                            >> Adjunct Professors<br>
                            >> Smoke Signals, #3255 SSC<br>
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                            >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                              target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/#1/ctvsmokesignals</a><br>
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                            href="http://www.chrwradio.ca"
                            target="_blank">http://www.chrwradio.ca</a><<a
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                              target="_blank">http://chrwradio.ca/content/smoke-signals</a><br>
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