Fw: Ce Nok Sa...

[Waruno Mahdi]

Hi folks,
This reminded me of the discussion we had on AnLang half a year ago
about Sydney Parkinson's 1773 wordlists, particularly the apparently
Batavia-Chinese list with numerals, I thought you might also like
this one.
Aloha, Waruno.

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From: "John MacDougall" <johnmacdougall at comcast.net>
Sender: indonesian-studies at yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:34:37 -0000
Subject: [i-s] Ce Nok Sa...

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<http://ausdag.blogs.friendster.com/slainte/2007/10/ce_nok_sa.html>http://ausdag.blogs.friendster.com/slainte/2007/10/ce_nok_sa.html

Ce Nok Sa...

Having learned most of my Indonesian in Central Java it came as a bit
of a shock when I started working at my current school in Jakarta and
being confronted with the Jakarta Chinese variety of Indonesian. I
can't say at this point in time just how much it differs from Central
Javanese Indonesian other than it is often spoken at break-neck speed
- much faster than one is used to hearing in Java.

I find the Jakarta Chinese variety of Indonesian a fascinating code
and wish I had more time to devote to a serious analysis of it.

One difference is the counting system that one often hears. I think it
comes from the Hokkien language. The following is a summary of what I
found on a scrap of paper that my wife noted from a Jakartan friend -
the writing and pronunciation follows Indonesian orthography -
1 - ce
2 - nok
3 - sa
4 - si
5 - nggo
6 - lak
7 - cit
8 - (can't remember this one; anyone?)
9 - kao

units
10s - cap
100s - pek
1000s - ceng
10000s - ban
1000,000s - tiao

100 - cepek (one and unit of 100s)
200 - nopek (two and unit of 100s)
300 - sapek
500 - nggopek
etc

1000 - ceceng
10, 000 - ceban
100, 000 - cepekceng (one hundred and unit of 1000s)

150 - pek nggo - (unit of 100s and 5)

15,000 - ban nggo (unit of 10,000s and 5)

Corrections and further enlightenment greatly appreciated.

October 09, 2007 in Indonesia | Permalink

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From: Arief Budiman <ariefb at unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: [i-s] Re - Ce Nok Sa...


If I am not mistaken, 8 is pe.

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