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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Carl,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You mentioned towards the end of your email that
someone told you that KILA is not Tagalog. Who said so? </FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2>It is not Cebuano nor is it Hiligaynon (I speak both).
Is it Ilocano? Is it Chinese? It's certainly not Spanish (I speak
that too) - WHAT IS IT? </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> It is most certainly Tagalog! I just
checked it - it is listed in Panganiban as "prov. var. of
<STRONG>kin</STRONG><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><STRONG>á</STRONG><FONT
face=Arial size=2><STRONG>,</STRONG> q.v." (?!) I find this surprising and
hard to believe as an old Manile<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>ña.
</FONT> </FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>So much for "pure"
and "good" Tagalog being from the provinces - like Bulacan! Seriously
though, we know nothing of the history - I don't mean etymology - of the KILA
variant. In any case, KILA is recognized as Tagalog and from
what Panganiban says and what my sources and I (as well as others)
give witness to, SINA and KILA have been in use in
Manila Tagalog.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Examining the 2 forms of the analytic case paradigm
I pointed out earlier, note that the first syllable of each case form
that <EM>encodes the case</EM> <EM>contrast</EM> (and parallels the
personal-name case-markers <STRONG>SI, NI, KAY</STRONG>) is identical in A and
B. The difference is in the <EM><STRONG>non</STRONG>contrastive</EM>
second syllable:</FONT></DIV>
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size=2>
(A)</FONT> <FONT face=Arial
size=2> (B)</FONT></DIV>
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nominative
<STRONG>SI</STRONG>LA <STRONG>SI</STRONG>NA</FONT></DIV>
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genitive
<STRONG>NI</STRONG>LA
<STRONG>NI</STRONG>NA</FONT></DIV>
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dative/locative
<STRONG>KI</STRONG>LA <STRONG>KI</STRONG>NA</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I hope this informs the issue at hand.
Paz</FONT></DIV>
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