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size=2>Also:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531515309-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Cook
Is Maori /paapaa/ </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531515309-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Tuamotuan /paapaa/ ("[? < Eng.]" - Stimson)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531515309-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Tuvalu
/paapaa/ 'daddy, father'</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531515309-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Tokelau /papa/ '(children's word for) daddy, father'</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531515309-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Imere
/paapa/ (considered modern borrowing)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531515309-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531515309-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>That's
all I find at a first look. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=531515309-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Ross
Clark</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ross Clark (FOA
DALSL) [mailto:r.clark@auckland.ac.nz] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 21 October
2003 6:01 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> 'David Gunn';
An-lang@anu.edu.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [An-lang] papa<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=750375504-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>As
others have pointed out, vowel length is important here. The word for "board"
or "flat surface" or the name of the mythical mother has two short vowels.
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<DIV><SPAN class=750375504-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Papa
'father' occurs in Deighton's Moriori vocabulary, but vowel length is not
reliably recorded.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=750375504-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
Maori word is /paapaa/, and Williams apparently considers it indigenous. He
associates it with /paa/ 'a term of address to a male elder or superior' (e
pa). </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=750375504-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>On
the other hand, Milner gives Samoan /papa/ as children's language 'daddy', but
again without suggesting it's from English.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=750375504-21102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Ross
Clark</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> David Gunn
[mailto:dagunn@email.uophx.edu] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 20 October 2003
3:48 p.m.<BR><B>To:</B> An-lang@anu.edu.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> [An-lang]
papa<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello - I'm interested in the word
"papa". I read recently that this word means "father" in Maori and
Moriori. I know "papa" means rock or a board in some Polynesian
languages. I just want to know how far the word "papa" is used throughout
Polynesia in the sense of "father" or having something to do with
geneology. I also want to know if the word is definitley of
Polynesian origin as opposed to being a European loan word. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you'd like to answer straight to my email,
you can reply to <A
href="mailto:dagunn@uophx.edu">dagunn@uophx.edu</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>David
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