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Antonia,<br>
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Thanks for the clarification. I guess it could even be that
Appell-Warren asked her informant for the word <i>kasi</i> 'give'
but her informant misunderstood the question as being about <i>kasih</i>
'love'. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what you find.<br>
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Best,<br>
<br>
David<br>
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return to the semantic strand of this ongoing discussion: <br>
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By sheer coincidence, I was just browsing through a wordlist of
Tidung (spoken in Tarakan, Kalimantan Utara), and the word for
'give' is given as /saiyang, /which is clearly related to the
familiar Malay /sayang/ 'love'/'compassion'/'pity'. Seems like
an almost completely parallel semantic change to that which was
posited by several discussants for Malay /kasi(h)/, and, in my
view, the clincher for this proposed etymology. <br>
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Appell-Warren, Laura P. (1978) "The Tarakan Dialect of the
Tidung Language of East Kalimantan: Distribution and Basic
Vocabulary", in A.S. Wurm and Lois Carrington eds., Second
International Conference on Austronesian Linguistics:
Proceedings, Pacific Linguistics C-61, 148-166. <br>
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Dear David,<br>
I do not know Tidung well but it is indeed spoken in the area
where I collect my data and by a large population in Malinau,
Tarakan and in Kecamatan Tana Tidung and is related to other
Murutic languages spoken in Kalimantan and Sarawak. Many Tidung
people consider themselves 'orang Melayu' having embraced the
Moslem religion. This means that they are heavily influenced by
the Malay culture and language. I have checked on some wordlists
and dictionaries I have (Bolongan, Murut etc) and I have found
nowhere the word saiyang for 'give'. It seems to me that the
informant associated the meaning 'affection' and 'give' of the
Malay kasih to his/her language. Among the many languages I work
on this association is not common.<br>
Next time I go to Tarakan, I'll make sure to check with Tidung
speakers.<br>
Antonia<br>
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