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Dear all,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your quick and helpful responses; "horas" to Robert
Attenborough, Robert Blust, Abby Cohn, Geoff Kushnick, Wilson Manik,
Luh Anik Mayani, Esra Siagian, and Alan Steven. The verdict was
unanimous, it is Toba, not Simalungun Batak. <br>
<br>
BTW, a couple of correspondents pointed out that some of the
sentences didn't seem to make much sense. Yes I know; I was using
them as stimuli in a truth-functional experiment designed to check
exactly what, if anything, these sentences mean! (Surprisingly,
most of the 30 subjects seemed quite willing to accept sentences
that according to "standard" descriptions of Toba Batak should be
ungrammatical or semantically unfelicitous. But that's another
story ...)<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
David<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 19/04/2015 17:22, David Gil wrote:<br>
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Dear all,<br>
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I am looking for someone who can help me with a problem of
language identification. Last month I did some field work in the
city of Pematangsiantar, in North Sumatra, on the local variety of
Batak. Going by the Ethnologue map, I naively assumed that I was
eliciting data in Simalungun Batak, but I later found out that
most people in the town actually speak Toba Batak. I have
reproduced below the sentences that I elicited: could someone
please tell me whether these are Toba or Simalungun, or perhaps
some mixture of the two.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
David<br>
<br>
<br>
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pidong i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">2<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mabiar
harimo i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">3<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manggambar
biang i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">4<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manjait
takkuluk i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">5<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manortor
meja i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">6<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Maluppat
kursi i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">7<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mekkel
kopi i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">8<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Sonang
hepeng i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">9<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manakkup
huting bagudung i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">10<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mangharat
ulok bagudung i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">11<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manorong
anak boru motor i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">12<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mamereng
harimo gaja i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">13<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mangan
sunge badut i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">14<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manobang
kapak tantara i </p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">15<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manginum
surat badut i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">16<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manuhor
las roha badut i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">17<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mangan
manuk i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">18<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mabiar
biang i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">19<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manggambar
pohon i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">20<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manjait
salawar i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">21<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manortor
solu i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">22<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Maluppat
pagar i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">23<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mekkel
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<p class="MsoPlainText">24<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Sonang
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<p class="MsoPlainText">25<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manakkup
herek jolma i<span style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">26<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mangharat
ulok huting i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">27<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manorong
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<p class="MsoPlainText">28<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mamereng
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<p class="MsoPlainText">29<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mangan
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<p class="MsoPlainText">30<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manobang
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<p class="MsoPlainText">32<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manuhor
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<p class="MsoPlainText">33<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Marikkati
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<p class="MsoPlainText">36<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mabiar
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<p class="MsoPlainText">37<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manakkup
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<p class="MsoPlainText">38<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Manghutti
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<p class="MsoPlainText">39<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Marikkati
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<p class="MsoPlainText">40<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Marburu
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<p class="MsoPlainText">102<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Marbadai
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<p class="MsoPlainText">103<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Marbadai
tu bawa anak boru i</p>
<p class="MsoPlainText">104<span style="mso-tab-count:1"> </span>Mangan
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