<div dir="ltr">The form actually has a final glottal stop, hilagà, which suggests it
may be a borrowing from Malay <i>iraga </i>'north wind' as noted by Antonio Pigafetta (note John Wolff's paper on Malay
borrowings in Tagalog).</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Robert Blust <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:blust@hawaii.edu" target="_blank">blust@hawaii.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello,</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure where Bill Davis got the idea that "Malaysian and Indonesian have <em>hilaga". </em>The normal word for 'north' in Malay/Indonesian is <em>utara</em>, a Sanskrit loan, and <em>hilaga</em> does not appear in any dictionary of the language that I have seen. The<em> hilaga</em> form appears rather to be confined to Tagalog and a small number of languages in the Philippines that may have borrowed from it.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Bob Blust</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Bill Davis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bill_davis@ntm.org" target="_blank">bill_davis@ntm.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Not sure, but I know that SW Palawano (PLV) has <i>iraga?</i> and Malaysian and Indonesian have
<i>hilaga</i>. I have heard that cardinal directions came into Austronesian from other sources. Before that names of seasonal winds, up/down river, mountainward/seaward, etc., were all.
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Hello,<br>
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Does anyone happen to have any insight on the etymology of Tagalog<br>
*hilaga *'north'?<br>
I've consulted the ABVD, ACD, and Wolff (2010), but was not very successful<br>
in finding an answer.<br>
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I see that the word for "north" in a number of Philippine are reflexes of<br>
PAn *qamiS, though the Tagalog reflex, *amihan*, refers to the north or<br>
northeast wind.<br>
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I also see that Antonio Pigafetta noted that the word *iraga *'north<br>
wind' in his Malay word list.<br>
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Chris Sundita<br>
<a href="http://conf.ling.cornell.edu/csundita" target="_blank">http://conf.ling.cornell.edu/c<wbr>sundita</a><br>
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