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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Hugh, it only becomes a nightmare if you use apostrophe for glottal stop. I insist on using something closer to IPA – see attached on Tongan, and note there is
also an upper case form (sorry it’s a draft, can’t find the final version!). Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> An-lang <an-lang-bounces@anu.edu.au>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hugh Paterson III<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 26, 2019 8:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Lynch <johnlynch123@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> an-lang@anu.edu.au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [An-lang] Glossing notation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I prefer the quote marks unless there is a glottal stop in the orthography of the translation, then it becomes a typographical nightmare. Parentheses in my opinion should be for parenthetical statements within the primary language of the
text body. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">- Hugh Paterson. Someone younger than a baby boomer. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 12:12 PM John Lynch <<a href="mailto:johnlynch123@gmail.com">johnlynch123@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">It would be interesting to know the reason for this proposed change. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Parentheses are usually used to add additional but non-essential information. Calling on my editorial experience, I can envisage two different kinds of situations. One is where the non-English
term is used as if it was an ordinary word in an ordinary sentence, in which case the parenthetical translation might be appropriate. For example:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">a. Only men may enter the <em><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">fale</span></em><span style="color:black"> (house) during mortuary ceremonies ...</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">or </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">b. Only men may enter the house (<em><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">fale</span></em><span style="color:black">) during mortuary ceremonies ...</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">The other is where the focus is on the word as an item of linguistic exposition, in which case the parenthesis is mistakenly treating
the gloss as non-essential. In such cases I would support retaining the current practice. E.g.:</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">c. The first syllable of </span></span><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"> <em><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">fale</span></em><span style="color:black"> <span class="gmaildefault">'</span>house<span class="gmaildefault">'
is usually stressed,although ...</span></span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span class="gmaildefault"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">John</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 3:44 PM Ross Clark <<a href="mailto:r.clark@auckland.ac.nz" target="_blank">r.clark@auckland.ac.nz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I've had an inquiry from the editor of a journal which sometimes publishes papers of a (Pacific) linguistic nature. They are contemplating changing the format for glosses of single words in languages other than English from single-quotes
to parentheses -- e.g.from<br>
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fale 'house'<br>
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fale (house).<br>
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This would bring it into agreement with the reverse situation, where a local-language equivalent is given for a word in non-linguistic discussion:<br>
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house (fale).<br>
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[Sorry, all those fale's should be in italics. Don't know how to make that happen in Outlook.]<br>
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Apparently the Chicago Manual of Style approves this. <br>
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I don’t find this change particularly disturbing, even though single-quotes is a pretty widely followed practice in linguistics. But I wanted to circulate the question a little to see if there is strong feeling about it, or if people can think of difficulties
which haven’t occurred to me.<br>
Thanks for your input.<br>
Ross Clark<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-- <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">John Lynch, FAHA<br>
Emeritus Professor of Pacific Languages<br>
University of the South Pacific<br>
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Port Vila. VANUATU<br>
Phone: (+678) 25036 Mobile: (+678) 5920220 Fax: (+678) 22633<o:p></o:p></p>
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