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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Christoph<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Kokota (Meso-Melanesian, Santa Isabel) has 5 demonstrative categories described in my Kokota Grammar (2009, Uni Hawaii Press): touching, within reach, nearby, potentially visible, and not visible.
I discuss their semantics but only a small amount to do with discourse. I hope that's of some interest.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Associate Professor Bill Palmer<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">University of Newcastle<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Lead Investigator, <i>OzSpace</i> project<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Landscape, language and culture in Indigenous Australia.</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Vice-President, Australian Linguistics Society<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> An-lang <an-lang-bounces@anu.edu.au>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Blust<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 28 January 2021 5:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Christoph Holz <christoph.holz@my.jcu.edu.au><br>
<b>Cc:</b> an-lang@anu.edu.au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [An-lang] 'Visible' and 'invisible' demonstratives<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello Christoph,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">For Austronesian cases, there is a summary in my open-access online book,
<i>The Austronesian languages</i> (google my name + title). See Chapter 5, 'The Lexicon', Sect. 5.4, 'Demonstratives, locatives, and directionals'. Many languages have a first-person, second-person, third-person distance distinction, but for the distal member
others distinguish 'in sight' vs. 'out of sight'. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Bob Blust<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 3:35 AM Christoph Holz <<a href="mailto:christoph.holz@my.jcu.edu.au">christoph.holz@my.jcu.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Dear all, </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I am working on a paper about the discourse functions of ‘visible’ and ‘invisible’ demonstratives, with a focus on Tiang (a Meso Melanesian language from New Ireland, PNG, which I
am doing fieldwork on). </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Are you aware of other languages with a ‘visible’/‘invisible’ distinction in demonstratives, and whether ‘visible’ and ‘invisible’ demonstratives differ in their discourse functions?
I am interested in which demonstratives can act as anaphors and/or cataphors, and whether certain demonstratives are more frequent in a certain function. Most grammars do not really talk about this… Information on any language (Austronesian, Papuan, other
language families) would be a great help. </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Kind regards, </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Christoph </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Christoph Holz </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">PhD Candidate </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">James Cook University </span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Cairns, Australia</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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