From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug  2 14:45:56 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:45:56 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Arabic Advertisements Query
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Khalid Al-Shehari <mcuihka2 at fs1.ccl.umist.ac.uk>
Subject: Arabic Advertisements Query

Hi mates,
I'm currently undergoing research about the translation of adverts
from english into Arabic. I was able to collect a few (but not
enough) of Arabic adverts which seem to be translated from english
adverts. I found these in Arab magazines such as SAYIDATY and
ALMAJALLAH. The problem I encounter is that there are some adverts in
these magazines which seem to be translated from english but I don't
know where I can find there origins. Can you please advise me:
1- which Arab magazines feature advertisements (only
magazine) which seem to be translated or reproduced from english? and
2- what are the English magazines which feature the origins of these
adverts.
Thanks in advance.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug  2 14:51:15 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:51:15 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Sakhr Lexicons on the Internet
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1) Subject: Sakhr Lexicons on the Internet (Advertisement?)

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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Digitek International <sakhrus at erols.com>
Subject: Sakhr Lexicons on the Internet

New Arabic Language and Culture Resources on the Internet
Sakhr Adds Lexicons to Websites


Washington DC, July 28 -- Two major Arabic linguistic resources are now
freely available on the Internet. The Online Dictionary of Literary
Terms and a collection of the three best known Arabic lexicons are now
available through
   http://www.sakhr.com (Arabic interface),
   http://www.sakhrsoft.com (English interface), and
   http://www.sakhrus.com (English interface).

Teachers, students, researchers or anyone interested in Arabic
linguistics, culture, or history will find both resources invaluable
aids for understanding the Arabic vocabulary.
The Arabic Lexicon site (at lexicons.sakhr.com) uses Sakhr Software's
powerful search engines to navigate the Al-Moheet, Moheet Al-Moheet, and
the Al-Waseet lexicons.  Users can search the lexicons by word, word
root, or topic.

Sakhr has given the more specialized vocabulary of literary analysis and
criticism its own dedicated site (at literary.sakhr.com) with detailed
descriptions of the literary terms and their equivalents in English and
French.  The entries are from Ibrahim Fathi's Al-Mu'ajem Al-Mustalihat
Al-Adabiya.

Fahed Al-Sharekh, manager of Internet development projects at the
Alalamiah Group, parent company of Sakhr Software, notes that it is
Sakhr's "aim to make its Web site, www.sakhr.com, the largest Arabic
cultural site in terms of content and variety".  Among forthcoming
cultural resources, Al-Sharekh noted, are the complete Lissan Al-'Arab
lexicon of Arabic and the Al-Mo'alaqat Al-Saba'a, the famous seven
Arabic odes known since pre-Islamic times.

Sakhr's new contributions join its Encyclopedia of Arabic Cinema, its
own multilingual dictionary Al-Qamoos, and the collected poetry of
Al-Motanabi as existing Arabic cultural resources on the Internet.

In a related development, Sakhr Software has recently posted a version
of its popular Arabic Web browser, Sindbad, for Windows NT at its site.
The new version is available for free downloading at any of the Websites
mentioned above.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug  2 14:46:53 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:46:53 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Conventional References to Women Query
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: zmaalej <zmaalej at gnet.tn>
Subject: Conventional References to Women Query

Sorry for cross-posting.
Dear listers,

I am working on a cross-cultural survey on how women are talked about by men
as represented in some conventionalised metaphors. Part of this survey, of
course, will have to include a section on how women are talked about in the
various dialects of Arabic. In Tunisian Arabic, for instance, you may
overhear:

- She is a nymph (meaning of unbelievable beauty)
- She is a gem (meaning her beauty is exquisite)
- She is a melon (meaning she is a plump)
- He ate her (meaning he made love to her), etc.

If you can insert a few conventional references to women, your contribution
will be much appreciated, and many thanks in advance for your collaboration.
If you are interested in the result of this study, I promise you a summary.

Regards

Zouhair Maalej,

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug  2 14:48:02 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:48:02 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Verb Morphology Query
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Samira Farwaneh <sfarwaneh at juno.com>
Subject: Verb Morphology Query

Dear members,

Salaam and hope this heat wave will be over soon. I have some questions
concerning the inflection of perfective verbs in spoken Arabic. As
everyone knows, the inflection of weak and biliteral (geminate) verbs in
many dialects sometimes contain a long stressed mid vowel /ee/ as in
[raddeet] 'I answered', or [rameet] 'I threw', etc. My interest is not in
the diachronic analysis of this vowel, but rather in the presence or
absence of this vowel in different verb class paradigms. We do not find
this vowel in the inflection of strong verbs, for example, only katabt is
attested, and not *katabeet. Similarly, the vowel is absent in hollow
verb paradigms, we find zurt and not *zaareet.

I have presented a paper on this issue but I still have questions, the
answer to which may verify or falsify my analysis. Is it true that forms
like katabeet and zaareet are never attested? I seem to have a vague
recollection of my mother saying something like shaba9eeti? 'are you
full?' when talking to my younger sisters, but I do not have documented
data to corroborate this. So if you know or heard of such forms, please
answer the following questions:

1. In what linguistic domain do those forms appear, e.g., child language,
motherese language disorder, dialectal variation, language games, etc.
2. Do the forms appear randomly or regularly?
3. Is the appearance of the forms governed by any variable such as
gender, age, education, etc?
4. Do you know of any references on the topic?

Many thanks in advance for any info, suggestions, or discussion.

Samira Farwaneh
Dept of Linguistics
University of Utah

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug  2 14:49:59 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:49:59 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:UofU Position
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: mushira eid <mushira.eid at m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: UofU Position

TENURE-TRACK ARABIC LITERATURE POSITION AT UNIVERSITY OF UTAH

The Department of Languages and Literature at the University of Utah, in
cooperation with the Middle East Center, seeks applicants for a joint
tenure-track position in Arabic language and literature at the rank of
assistant professor beginning August, 2000. Preference may be given to a
specialist in classical Arabic literature.   The successful candidate
should be prepared to teach courses in both classical and modern Arabic
literature at graduate and undergraduate levels, and participate in the
teaching of Arabic language as needed.  Knowledge of critical theory is
desirable.  The candidate should have a superior level of proficiency in
Arabic.

The appointment begins Fall Semester 2000.  Applicants must hold a Ph.D. or
have completed all degree requirements by the time of appointment.  Salary
package includes full benefits.  Applications, which should include a
curriculum vitae and the names of three referees (whom the applicant must
ask to submit letters of recommendation under separate cover), should be
sent to Dr. Peter Sluglett, Director, Middle East Center, University of
Utah, 260 S. Central Campus Dr., Rm. 153, Salt Lake City, Utah 84112-9157.
Preliminary interviews will be held at the MESA meeting in Washington this
November.  Review of applications will begin on October 15, 1998.  The
University of Utah is an AA/EOE employer and encourages nominations and
applications from women and minorities, and provides reasonable
accommodation to the known disabilities of applicants and employees.
Search will continue until position is filled.

Nancy Stroud
Middle East Center
801-581-5362

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug  3 14:24:40 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:24:40 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Preferred Names Hadith
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: "A. FERHADI" <af3 at is2.nyu.edu>
Subject: Preferred Names Hadith

I thought this might be of ineterest to some of you, especially those
working on Arabic names. I was listening to BBC's Arabic Service on the
Internet while doing my work and heard a "Hadiith" on the 'loveliest, most
veracious as well as the ugliest' names as seen by God.

	"aHabb-ul asmaa'-i @ind allaah: @abd-u llaah (Abdullah) wa @bd-ur
raHmaan (Abdul-Rahman); wa aSdaquhaa: Haarith wa hammaam; wa aqbaHuhaa:
Harb wa murrah."

This brings to mind another one I learned at junior high: "xayr-ul asmaa'-i
maa Hummid-a wa @ubbid." Paraphrase: The best of names are those containing
the root H-m-d (e.g. Ahmad, Muhammad, Mahmood, Haamid ...) and those
prefixed with Abd. I  should ask my parents if they chose my name on that
basis.

--Ahmed Ferhadi
New York University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug  3 14:22:24 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:22:24 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:Verb Morphology Response
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Abdelrahman Amer <a_amer at email.com>
Subject: Verb Morphology Response

I have failed to come up with any verb that has this vowel which does not end
either with an alef or a shadda.
raddeit -> radd (ends with a shadda)
rameit -> rama (ends with an alef)

All other verbs (that I could think of) seem to be lacking the vowel, when put
in first person form.
Here in Cairo I dont believe we have any exceptions for this rule.

Salam,
Abdou.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug  3 14:23:39 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:23:39 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Advertisements Response
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1) Subject: Advertisements Response

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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject: Advertisements Response

Greetings / tahaiya tayyiba wa b3ad...

Hiyaakum Allah jamii3aan...

Re translations / conversions of English <-> Arabic advertisements

You most probably will not find that the English-original text copy for an
advert would closely match or parallel that in its Arabic rendition.

o  Based on my practice with such advertisements, the into-Arabic
translations (the better and more-culturally-suited ones, at least)  usually
will address simailr themes (i.e., quality or benefits of the product, but
include different treatments, even if the visuals (photos, logos, symbols,
diagrams, et. al.) appear identical in their respective language versions.

o  The better Arabic adverts (those that pass the "giggle test" or "yaa
salaam!...rolling-of-the eyes response" when first read) are effectively
created "from scratch" after the translator(s) can study the English-original
ad and assess its features of the product (especially the complexity of the
subject), clean out imbedded jargon, buzzwords and "corporate-speak"), and
create a "culturized" version suited to the advert's intended Arabic
readership, tastes, and desired response by the readers. So, while the
visuals and graphics may match between the English and Arabic versions, the
text usually does not.

o  Some real clunkers of "quick-and-dirty" translations appear occasionally
in periodicals newly targeted at domestic Arabic-origin readerships in the US
(outside those areas where large and discriminating Arabic populations are
settled).

o  In addition to adverts found in Al-Majalla and Sayidatii, you might check
some of the adverts in issues of "Al-Sharq Al-Awsat" if you are interested
mostly in adverts targeted at general consumers and families.

o  FYI, one fine reference (although out of print, well worth finding and
reading via interlibrary loan) is the 1970s-vintage "McCann-Erickson Middle
East Study" (done by McE's branches in UK or Cyprus, I think) on advertising
preferences and media choices in the Middle East (GCC countries).

o  If you have some other questions re PR, media, advertising, public
diplomacy, impression management, promotions, joint ventures, and marketing
in the GCC region, Turkey and Iran, ahalan wa sahalan... (I research and
lecture on those subjects at a local university).

Hope this helps.

Khair, in sha' Allah.

Regards from Los Angeles,

Stephen H. Franke

E-mail: < mutarjm at aol.com >
           or < shfranke at msn.com >
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug  4 14:59:10 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:59:10 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING: Tunisian and Emirati Arabic Query
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Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: anowaira at inetalex.ie-eg.com
Subject: Tunisian and Emirati Arabic Query

[please respond directly to the requester]

Dear list members,

I'm seeking the help of native speakers of Tunisian and Emirati Arabic
on the connotations of a couple of words. I would really be grateful if
they responded to me directly.

Many thanks.
Amira Nowaira
anowaira at inetalex.ie-eg.com

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug  4 14:53:28 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:53:28 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Columbia Job
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Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: Taoufik Ben-Amor <tb46 at columbia.edu>
Subject: Columbia Job

 The Department of Middle East and Asian Languages and Cultures at
 Columbia University invites applications for a part-time Lecturer in
 Arabic for the academic year of 1999-2000. Applicants must have native
 or near native fluency in Arabic and experience teaching
non-native speakers at the undergraduate and graduate level. MA required,
 Ph.D. preferred in Arabic, linguistics or a related field.
 Send CV to Dr. Taoufik Ben-Amor, Middle East and
 Asian Languages and Cultures, 602 Kent Hall - Mail Code 3928, Columbia
 University, New York, NY 10027. Phone: (212) 854-2895.  Email:
 tb46 at columbia.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug  4 14:57:56 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:57:56 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Need DC Tutor
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Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: "A. R. Goldman" <argoldman at mindspring.com>
Subject: Need DC Tutor

[please respond directly to the requestor]

Ahlan wa sahlan
I hope that this message is appropriate...
I have studied Arabic for a couple of years, and am having some
difficulty finding a private tutor in the Washington DC area. My
interests lie primarily in Qur'an and Hadith (A teacher familiar
with Tajweed would be most helpful), and also at a later time, in
sha'Allah, with classical poetry. Spoken practice is of course
useful, but not my focus at this time...
If any readers of this list would know of any experienced
teachers, I would most appreciate a reply...
Wa's salaam
ARGoldman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug  4 14:56:33 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:56:33 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Wayne State Conf Program and Registration
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Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: Dallas Kenny <k.d.kenny at wayne.edu>
Subject: Wayne State Conf Program and Registration

The Dept. of Near Eastern & Asian Studies
& the Foreign Language Technology Center

College of Liberal Arts
together with

The American Association of
Teachers of Arabic
(AATA)

Presents

Bridging Past, Present & Future: Arabic as a Foreign Language in the New
Millennium

October 15 - 16, 1999
McGregor Memorial Conference Center

Organizers:
Aleya Rouchdy, Chair
Salim Khaldieh
K. Dallas Kenny
Jayne McGee


Registration Form

Name:

Address:

City/State:

Country:

Affiliation:

E-mail Address:

Registration deadline September 15, 1999.
Pre-Registration before 9/15/99.................$25
				 Registration at the door.......$35
WSU Faculty & Students free.

Checks, drawn on US banks, or international money orders should be made
payable to  Wayne State University, Arabic Symposium  #4-44098 and sent
with the registration form to Jayne McGee, 437 Manoogian Hall, Wayne State
University, Detroit, MI  48201, USA (email:aa5404 at wayne.edu) (phone: (313)
577-6538).


Genernal Information

The symposium will be held at the McGregor Center at Wayne State
University.  Rooms have been reserved at the St. Regis Hotel, 3071 W. Grand
Blvd., Detroit, MI  48202, (313) 873-3000.  The  St. Regis offers symposium
participants reduced rates $75 for single/doulbe rooms.  Reservations can be
made by contacting th hotel directly at (313) 873-3000 , fax (313)
873-2574.  Mention the Near Eastern & Asian Studies Arabic Sympomsium for
the reduced rate. In order to qualify for reduced conference rates and
insure availability, hotel reservations must be made by September 15, 1999.
The St. Regis is located about a mile north of the WSU campus and limited
free shuttle service is available.  Participants can take the shuttle from
Metro Airport to the St. Regis Hotel.

Parking is avilable in several WSU parking structures.  After parking,
drivers will need to purchase a parking card to exit the structure, from a
vending machine at the parking structure office.  The price of the parking
card is nominal.


Conference Website:
http://www.langlab.wayne.edu/NearEast/events.html

Friday, October 15
Morning Session

8:30-9:00         Registration

9:00-9:15         Introduction, Aleya Rouchdy
	          Welcome:
	          Marylin L. Williamson, Provost

9:15-9:30         Opening Remarks
	          Lawrence A. Scaff, Dean
	          College of Liberal Arts

9:30-10:30        Keynote Address:
	           Language, Teaching & Learning in the 21st Century
	           Emily Spinelli, President, ACTFL 1999

10:30-10:45      Refreshment Break

10:45-1:00      I. Past & P resent
                        Aleya Rouchdy, Wayne State University, Chair

Panels:
Linguistics & The Teaching of Arabic in the U.S.:  A Century In Perspecitive
Mushira Eid, University of Utah

Cultural Content Through Literary Texts: Teaching Advanced Arabic
Mona Mikhail, New York University

The Language of Literary Texts, Between Accessibility & Political Correctness
Aida Bamia, University of Flordia

Integrating Language & Culture Through The Comprehension of Idioms
Foazi El-Barouki, Defense Language Institute

The Effects of Learners' Output & Collaborative Tasks in the Acquistion of
Second Language: A Search for Empirical Evidence in L2 Arabic Classroom
Rabia Redouane, University of Toronto

Getting Personal
Joanne Wagerson, Oakland University

1:00-2:00       Lunch

Afternoon Session

2:15-4:15 II. New Directions for the Coming Millennium
Salim Khaldieh, Wayne State University, Chair

Panels:
Global Issues of Teaching Advanced Arabic As a Foreign Language in the New
Millennium
Malik Balla, Michigan State University

Teachning Listening Comprehension in Arabic: A New Direction For the New
Century
Mahmoud Al-Batal, Emory University

Integrating Reading in Literary Arabic and Discussing It in Colloquial
Shlomo Alon, Hebrew University

Goals and Perspectives of Arabic Teaching in the Third Millennium
Mark Van Mol, Katholieke University-Leuven

The Challenge of Introducing the MSA Alphabet on the Basis of the
Linguistic Approach Via the Learning Resources of the Global Theory
Susanne Ayad Massoud, American University in Cairo

6:00-8:00       Awards & Reception

Saturday, October 16
Morning Session

8:30-9:00       Registration

9:00-11:00  III. Technology & the Teaching of Arabic
Dallas Kenny, Wayne State University, Chair

Panels:
Development & Marketing of AFL Courseware: Producing Flexible, Viable &
Effective Language Software Vehicles for Variable Needs
Mark W. Meinke, Digitek International

Developing Reading Comprehension Strategies for Beginning & Intermediate
Arabic Students Using Interactive Multimedia Tools
Nabil Abdelfattah, University of California at Berkeley

Muiltimedia Teaching Materials: Merits & Impediments
Waheed Sami, American University in Cario

Use of Computer-Based Multimedia Technology in the Teaching of Classical
Arabic Texts
Steven Blackburn, Hartford Trinity College

Looking Ahead - With Both Feet on the Ground
Kirk Belnap, Brigham Young University

11:00-11:15       Refreshment Break

11:15-12:45  IV. Teaching Arabic in
the Detroit Arab Community
Manuel R. Mazon, Wayne State University, Chair


Panels:
Arabic in Dearborn Schools:  Diverse Interests, Different Needs
Kenneth K. Ayouby, Wayne State University

Prerequisite for a Successful Dual: English & Arabic Programs
Shereen Tabrizi Arraf, Dearborn Public Schools

Teaching Arabic to Children of Arab Immigrants: Community Expectations &
Existing Resources
Rifat Dika, Wayne State University


1:00-2:00       Lunch

Afternoon Session

2:15-3:30  V. Technology & the Teaching of Arabic
Theresa Antes, Wayne State University, Chair

Panels:
Computer-Assisted Instruction as a Reinforcing & Remedial Tool For
Proficiency-Oriented Syllabi
Mohammad T. Alhawary, Georgetown University

Teaching Arabic Grammar: A CD-ROM Based Computer Program
Sanaa Ghanem, American University in Cairo

Arabic Distance Learning: A Progress Report
Terri Deyoung, University of Washington

Turning Students into Televisions Stars: Teaching Arabic Through
Interactive Video
Nadia Yaqub, University of Washington

Sponsors

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Space Available for Book & Software Exhibits

Dallas Kenny, PhD
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Wayne State University
Detroit, Michigan  48202  USA

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Tel: 313-577-6390
Fax: 313-577-3041

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug  4 14:55:08 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:55:08 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Verb Morphology Responses
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2) Subject: Verb Morphology Response

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Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: Louis Boumans <louis.boumans at gironet.nl>
Subject: Verb Morphology Response

In response to Samira Farwaneh's query on the suffix conjugation in modern
dialects,
 
* Versteegh, Kees (1997) The Arabic Language. Edinburh Univ Press. P. 100-101
discusses the final vowel in the so-called weak conjugation. He mentions
the shiite dialect of bahrain as one where the suffixes of the weak
conjugation have become generalised to all verbal classes, so /kitbeet/ "i
wrote", /nameet/ "i slept".
 
* in Moroccan and other maghreb varieties of Arabic, the vowel in 1st and
2nd person suffix conjugation is characteristic for verb stems containing a
long vowel (other than so-called class III and VI), notably verbs denoting
colour or other attribute, e.g. /Hmaariit/ "i became red" /qlaaliitu/ "you
have become few" etc., and some verbs of class VIII, /xtaariit/ "i chose",
/Htaajiit/ "i needed", alongside /xteRt/ /Htejt/ etc. This in addition to
the forms /reddiit/, /m$iit/ etc, common all over the arab world.
c.f. for instance Cohen, Marcel (1912), Le parler arabe des juifs d'Alger.
or Caubet, D. (1993) L'arabe marocain. 
 
I hope this will be of any help, regards, Louis Boumans
 
Louis Boumans
Rijksuniversiteit Leiden, CNWS,
Postbus 9515, 2300 RA Leiden,
+31-71-527 29 95 

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2)
Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: Peter Law <plaw at go.com.jo>
Subject: Verb Morphology Response

Similarly in Jordanian (and Palestinian & Syrian?) I have never
come across and verbs, other than those ending in shaddi or weak
vowel, which have this vowel sound.

However, in Jordanian, some "ism faa9il" forms will have a long
vowel in the feminine form before the "taa marbuuta" where a short
vowel might be expected. For instance:

hiyyi mish laabisiitu
She is not wearing it;

rather than:
hiyyi mish laabistu

Regards
Peter
Peter Law
plaw at go.com.jo
Box 4681, Amman 11131, Jordan.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Aug  5 17:16:37 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:16:37 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Verb Morphology Response
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Date: 08 Aug 1999
From: "Munther A. Younes" <may2 at cornell.edu>
Subject: Verb Morphology Response

I am sure I heard  Ta<meet "I fed" (from the sound root /T<m/) used by
Palestinian speakers. As far as I know,  it is not used in my subdialect of
Palestinian (the Jenin area). I can't think of any other verbs that derive
from a sound root and have this structure. The form could be the result of
an analogy with sakeet "I gave water to", since the two verbs and their
their derivatives are frequently used together ('aT<amtu wsakeetu " I fed
him and gave him water").

Munther Younes
Cornell University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Aug  5 17:17:32 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:17:32 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Error Analysis query
Message-ID: <THU.5.AUG.1999.111732.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 08 Aug 1999
From: Robert Hilden <rhilden at best.com>
Subject: Error Analysis query

[please respond directly to requestor]

Hello All:

I'm looking for error analysis descriptions of errors made by native
Arabic speakers learning English. Included here would be contrastive
analysis as well as interlanguage approaches.

Robert Hilden
Berkeley

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 10 21:25:14 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:25:14 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Error Analysis response
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Date: 10 Aug 1999
From: SAGMLETOUR at aol.com
Subject: Error Analysis response

Dear Professor HIlden,

During my Fulbright in the English Department at the University of Khartoum
1989-90, an instructor was writing a master's thesis on Arabic-English error
analysis (actually, at the time I met her, she was collecting data).  I can't
recall her name, but she was German and married to a Sudanese and had a
compound surname.  Whether the thesis is available I don't know.
I hope this helps, even though chances of finding it are slim.

Mark LeTourneau

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 10 21:27:50 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:27:50 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:QUERIES:Rushdi Khatir/Transliterated Quran
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Date: 10 Aug 1999
From: AHMED KHORSHID <KHORSHID at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Rushdi Khatir query

If you know how I can contact Dr. Rushdi Khatir, please let me know.
Thanks.

Ahmad Khorshid

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2)
Date: 10 Aug 1999
From: Brent Poirier <mariposa at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Transliterated Quran Query

A transliterated Qur'an would be most helpful if anyone knows of one on the
Web (the ones I've found are all dead links) or for sale.
Thanks
Brent Poirier
Las Cruces NM USA
brent at bci.org

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug 11 14:48:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:48:17 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Transliterated Quran Response
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Yaser Al-Onaizan <yaser at clsp.jhu.edu>
Subject: Transliterated Quran Response

Greeting all,

A free transliterated copy of the Quraan can be obtained from the follwoing
web site:

http://www.muslimnet.net/notes.htm

Regards,
Yaser

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug 16 16:08:16 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:08:16 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Land Mines Query
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Date: 16 Aug 1999
From: moderator
Subject: Land Mines Query

An international NGO has contacted the AATA headquarters and asked for the
best Arabic translation of :

Danger, Land Mines

They are making signs to put up in the war torn regions of Africa where
some Arabic speakers reside.  If anyone would send me their best, and most
understandable version of this (remember, the target population could be
barely literate) I will pass it on to the NGO.

Thanks,
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug 16 16:38:44 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:38:44 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:EA course query
Message-ID: <MON.16.AUG.1999.103844.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 16 Aug 1999
From: Nancy Coffin <nac3 at columbia.edu>
Subject: EA course query

Dear Folks:

I am desperately seeking a text for use in an Egyptian colloquial course
this fall.  Ideally, I'd like a book that uses Arabic script, rather than
transliteration, and if there is something available with accompanying
audio-cassettes that students can listen to at home as well, that would be
even better.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Nancy Coffin

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug 16 16:37:50 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:37:50 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:aajiliin query
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Date: 16 Aug 1999
From: Salah Maduh <salmaduh at worldnet.att.net>
Subject: aajiliin query

I need help with translating a sentence in a marriage certificate. The
sentence reads as follows "... ala mahar mo'(ain)ajalaho xxxx and mo'ajalaho
xxxxx baqi bi-dhimatt al-zawj (ain)nda aqrab al-aajileen."

What does "al-aajileen" refer to here! Is it marriage and divorce?


Any feedback would be much appreciated.

Salah

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug 16 16:36:48 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:36:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Translation Images Query
Message-ID: <MON.16.AUG.1999.103648.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 16 Aug 1999
From: Z.A.Deeb at newcastle.ac.uk
Subject: Translation Images Query

Dear all,
During my PhD study in translation and while surveying the
literature, I came across some very interesting quotations that
compare translation or a translated work to something and a
translator/translators to somebody. Among the quotations I
 noted down are the following.

-ABOUT TRANSLATION:
 1. James Howell compares poetry to a luxurious Turkish carpet
 and compares a translation of a poem to a luxurious Turkish carpet
turned over.

 2. Norman Shapiro says, "a good translation is like a pane of glass.
You only notice that it's there when there are little imperfections -
 scratches, bubbles. Ideally, there shouldn't be any. It should never
 call attention to itself."

 3. "Torture and translation are, in fact, amongst the few fates that
 can be worse than death. Strictly speaking, translation is a subtle
 form of torture", The Spectator, 24. September, quoted in (Duff,
1981: 1).

4. "Translation is like a women; if beautiful, is never faithful, if
faithful, would not be beautiful".*

-ABOUT TRANSLATORS:
1- "A translator is like a cook; he should know the recipe but add
his own spices", kate Yarbrough (Third ITI International Colloquium
on Literary Translation, 1-3rd September 1998, Sheffield, UK.

 2- "Translators, like nudists,... ...", [Holman, 1997: 280]

*This is an often quoted saying but I still could not trace its
origin.

I feel that such sayings are worth studying to investigate in what
contexts they were said and how far they relate to the theory of
translation. Also, they raise the question: why in translation such
similes are more frequent than in any other discipline. If any one is
aware of similar sayings, I would be grateful if he or she could
pass them to me directly at my e.mail address:

                                                 Z.A.Deeb at ncl.ac.uk.
In anticipation of your co-operation, I thank you in advance.

Zakia Deeb

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 17 19:31:01 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:31:01 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Land Mine Thanks
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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: moderator
Subject: Land Mine Thanks

Thanks all who responded to the Land Mines query.  There are too many to
post them all, but several had actually seen such signs in various parts of
the Arab World, so I think we were able to get the correct information to
the NGO.
Thanks again.
dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 17 19:39:48 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:39:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:EA Course Responses
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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: AHMED KHORSHID <KHORSHID at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: EA Course Response

Dear Nancy,

By far the best book I've ever seen, and used, for teaching introductory
CA is "ahlan wa sahlan" by Wadie Boutros, dar en-nashr Hatier.
Unfortunately, the explanation and vocabulary are given in French. Not
surprisingly, I couldn't use it at the American University in Cairo.
However, I do use it for private tutoring. In this case, I supply the
English translation myself. The dialogs are in both Arabic script and
Latin script, but the exercises are in Latin only. I've also found a
solution to this problem that I'm willing to share with you if you are
interested. The advantages of this book are:

1. good order of presenting grammar.
2. close relationship between grammatical points and dialogs.
3. good choice of words.
4. it's accompanied by three good-quality audio tapes.

Your second choice may be "anistuuna" by Nahid Awni, (I think) AUC press.
It's in English, but doesn't compare to the first.

Hope this helps.

Ahmad Khorshid
Arabic Language Instructor
The American University in Cairo

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2)
Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject: EA Course Response

Greetings / ahalan wa sahalan...

You might check the American University of Cairo (AUC) Press, which published
a series of textbooks for foreign students interested in the Cairene dialect.
They were paperbacks (if I recall correctly) and appeared in the
early/mid-1980s. Several audiocassette tapes may have accompanied the texts,
which emphasized basic conversations and most-frequent social events and
occasions. Loaded with colloquialisms (baladiyaat).

U of Michigan also might have some AE texts, more likely including Arabic
text, rather than burdensome transliteration such as appeared in the first
volume of the AUC publications.

That's about all I can remember about the Cairene materials, as I am more
specialized in dialectology and in arabization of foreign terms in the
Arabian Peninsula and Gulf region.

Hope this helps.

Khair, in sha' Allah.

Regards from Los Angeles,

Stephen H. Franke

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3)
Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject: EA Course Response

I hope this multimedia title would help, check it out.
SMiles' Arabic Made Easy Multimedia CD-ROM.

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teaches the Arabic alphabet, beginning reading
and writing, and the Egyptian dialect.

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provides a fun, virtual world for you to experience
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 17 19:40:42 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:40:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Error Analysis Response
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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: akhalil at mail.bethlehem.edu
Subject: Error Analysis Response

Dear Robert,

I am an Associate Professor of Applied Linguistics in the English
Department at Bethlehem University. I did my PH.D. on Error
Evaluation at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
(1981-1984). I published a summary article in the TESOL Quarterly in
1985. I have been teaching an Error Analysis course to
Arabic-spealing Palestinian students majoring in English. Two years
ago I wrote a textbook on Error Analyis two years ago. It is still a
manuscript. I have collected thousands of errors made by school
learners of English.

I have writtn a textbook entitled A Contrastive Grammar of English
and Arabic, which I have using for a Contrastive LInguistics courses
offered to English majors with a minor in English-Arabic translation.
In fact I wrote during a sabbatical at the University of Michigan,
Ann Arbor. I got  Fulbright scholarship during that year. The book is
used at other Palestinian universities and some universities in
Jordan. I have revised the textbook and I am planning to submit
the revised erition to a publishing company in Jordan, most probably
by the end of this month.

I would like to know more about what you actually need the textbook
for. Do you teach Arabic-speaking EFL learners? Are you doing
research on EA?

I am planning to apply for a Fulbright to spend my sabbatical in the
US next year (2000-2001). I will write to different universities to
ge a letter of invitation to spend the sabbatical year there.

Please let me know how I can be of further assistance to you.


Aziz Khalil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 17 19:36:58 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:36:58 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:ajalayn responses
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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: Yrttiaho <kaarlo.yrttiaho at dlc.fi>
Subject: ajalayn response

I have once  been told by my  collegue that this  'ajalain ( dual of 'ajal)
refers to the  (two) times of death of the ( two) persons in question. 3inda
aqrab al-'ajalain would be at the time of the first one of these two
deaths -  the times of which only Allaahu ta3aalaa knows
 See  also the Qoranic al'ajalu l-musammaa.

With the best wishes

Kaarlo Yrttiaho

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2)
Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: Farouk Mustafa <fawm at midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: ajalayn response

It is divorce and death of the husband.
Farouk

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3)
Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: Muhammed Suleiman <suleiman at lineone.net>
Subject: ajalayn response

> What does "al-aajileen" refer to here! Is it marriage and divorce?
>
 No, it would not be marriage and divorce. Divorce would not be alluded to
in a marriage certificate.

_ab at ad al-aajileen_ would refer to _al-aajilah_ = 'the hereafter', but  the
individual first experiences _aqrab al-aajileen_, which would be his own
death.

The mahr [ note no second _a_ in Classical Arabic] if deferred [ = mahr
mu'ajjal] is not  forfeited on the death of the husband.If the husband were
to die, then his (blood) relatives would be responsible for payment of any
outstanding dowry to his wife.

Hope this helps,

Dr M. Suleiman

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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: OMHAFEZ at aucegypt.edu
Subject: ajalayn response

I'm not an expert in the area, but I keep hearing that "3ajiloho" is paid
upon marriage, and "mo'ajalaho" is paid upon one of the "aajilain", meaning
the husband's death or their divorce, whichever comes first.
Salam
Ola

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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: AHMED KHORSHID <KHORSHID at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: ajalayn response

al-ajalayn refers to divorce or death.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 17 19:42:19 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:42:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Support for Arabic Windows and Word
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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: Mahmoud Al-Batal <albatal at emory.edu>
Subject: Support for Arabic Windows and Word

Dear Friends,
    I have just learned that Glyph Systems has stopped providing support for
Microsoft Arabic products because Microsoft has refused to renew their
support contract. This means that users of Microsoft Arabic products are
left without support. Going to Microsoft's web page has not been of help. I
would be grateful for any suggestions about how to get "real" help and
support for Arabic Windows and MS Word.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Aug 20 15:12:46 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:12:46 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:EA Course
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Date: 20 Aug 1999
From: Jackie Murgida <jmurg at star.net>
Subject: EA Course

>but the exercises are in Latin only. I've also found a
>solution to this problem that I'm willing to share with you if you are
>interested.

Prof. Khorshid, could you describe your solution briefly for all of us on
the list who are interested? I know, I am.

Thanks,
Jackie Murgida
jmurg at star.net

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Aug 20 15:16:02 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:16:02 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Support for MS Arabic Products
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1) Subject: Support for MS Arabic Products
2) Subject: MS Arabic Solution

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Date: 20 Aug 1999
From: Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject: Support for MS Arabic Products

Greetings to all / tahiaya tayyiba wa b3ad...

Re the informative note by Mahmoud Al-Batal at Emory University that the
"hemaars" at Glyph Systems had ceased their support (as anemic, surly and
indifferent as that "support" had been over the past few years) of MS Arabic
products. (Allah yudabbarhum...)

Contacting the generic, US-based MS web site is an exercise in futility.
Except for the work-saturated people in the MS Arabic Beta Program there, the
MS crowd in Redmond seems clueless and comatose about MS bilingual products.

A more likely and productive MS web site to contact for assistance with
Arabic-supported products is MS Middle East in Dubai, UAE at URL <
http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/ >.

That site has  some reliable and helpful  "shebaab" there...(maa qassaroo,
abadaan),  although most advice available would likely cover only current MS
Arabic products (Windows 95 and newer).

I also would be glad to help advise from some background as an office-level
user of MS Arabic products and from a few years operating online into and
from Arabic.

Perhaps Mr. Gates can ask HRH Prince Awaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud,
his friend and one of the prime foreign investors in MSC (as well as in the
unfortunate Teledesic firm that now is under Chapter 11 protection), to
sponsor a support site for MS Arabic products and users, either in the US or
the GCC/Gulf region

Hope this information helps in some measure.

Khair, in sha' Allah.

Regards from Los Angeles,

Stephen H. Franke

E-mail: < mutarjm at aol.com >

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Date: 20 Aug 1999
From: "Rahawi, Mohammed" <RahawiM at state.gov>
Subject: MS Arabic Solution

SWITCH TO MAC!

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 24 23:31:41 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:31:41 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Translation job
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Date: 24 Aug 1999
From: Jackie Murgida <jmurg at star.net>
Subject: Translation job

[please respond directly to Angie, not to Jackie or to Arabic-L]

FYI, this msg. was posted on Compuserve's FLEFO [Foreign language] forum,
from "Angie (Spain) 100770.1220 at compuserve.com".
- - - - -
Is anybody available to translate a web page from English into Arab, it is
not very long but could result in work work later.

Please send me your rates.

Angie
- - - - -

[Please address any messages on this to Angie, *not* to me.]

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 24 23:30:19 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:30:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Teledesic correction
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Date: 24 Aug 1999
From: Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject: Teledesic correction

Greetings.

Whoops on one part of my previous note re support of MS Arabic.

The firm that went under bankruptcy protection was Iridium, rather than
Teledesic, which is alive and well (so investments by Mr. Gates and HRH
Prince Alwaleed et al are viable and aapreciating).

Regards and regrets,

Stephen

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 24 23:29:24 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:29:24 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New dissertation and thanks
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Date: 24 Aug 1999
From: Steven Blackburn <Steven.Blackburn at mail.trincoll.edu>
Subject: New dissertation and thanks

Dear Everyone,

Having (finally!) finished, and defended, my doctoral thesis, I would like
to thank those who responded to my occasional linguistic pleas for help,
and to those of you who, by "just being there", were very much a moral
support to me -- as lecturer in Arabic at Trinity College, Hartford, I am
the only Arabist, and one of only two Semiticists, at this institution.

The thesis, by the way, is entitled "Early Arabic Versions of the Book of
Job (first millennium c.e.)", for which the University of St. Andrews,
Scotland, is awarding me a Ph.D. in Religion.

Thanks again!

Steven Blackburn

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 24 23:28:14 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:28:14 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:MS Arabic Products
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1) Subject: MS Office 2000 query

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Date: 24 Aug 1999
From: Paul Nelson <paulnel at microsoft.com>
Subject: MS Arabic Products

The good news for new products beginning with IE5, Office 2000 and Windows
2000 is that they are world-wide executables and you no longer require a
special Arabic version. Thus you can use the normal US support chanels.

I can empathize, and sympathize, with your support frustrations. Microsoft
ME in Dubai is your best alternative at this time.

Paul Nelson
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Date: 24 Aug 1999
From: "Mohammad A. Mohammad" <mohammad at aall.ufl.edu>
Subject: MS Office 2000 query

Now that the issue of MS products comes up again, I have a question that
some of you there may answer. Since I have to fork over the cash for Arabic
software from my own pocket, I was trying (in vain, so far) to find
affordable software on the internet.  Anyway, on one of the searches for
'Arabic software' one of the search engines came back with MS Office 2000
Premium.  Never mind the price for the moment.  The description says
something like '..it is now easy to create multilingual documents.'  On
that day I popped into Sam's Club to look at MS Office. On the lower
right-hand corner of the box (I do not remember whether it was Standard of
Professional) it says that in the 'language edition it can automatically
recognize the language the user is typing in and activates spell-check.
The box says this edition supports 25 languages.  The English edition, on
the other hand, says the box, does this only for English, French, and
Spanish.  My question is really simple: What does this mean?

Another related question.  On this search I stumbled on some auction stuff.
Many people are offering Microsoft Products at affordable prices.  They say
their porduct is the original factory-sealed product minus the box and the
manual. Oh yes, the sellers say that version they are selling is legal and
is registerable online. My question: can anyone enlighten me as to the
importance or significance of the box and the manual?

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Aug 26 14:57:09 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:57:09 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Windows NT Query
Message-ID: <THU.26.AUG.1999.085709.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 26 Aug 1999
From: YemenLC at aol.com
Subject: Arabic Wndows NT

Does any one know where I can purchase the Arabic version of Windows NT 4.0?
Regards,
Mohammed Rahawi

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Aug 26 15:02:44 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:02:44 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:MS Arabic Products
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Date: 26 Aug 1999
From: "Rahawi, Mohammed" <RahawiM at state.gov>
Subject: MS Arabic Products

We office 2000 at my office that was purchased on the account that it
support Arabic. It includes some Arabic fonts. However, the Arabic does not
work with Windows NT 4.0!
	It was much cheaper for us to buy an iMac which comes with the Apple
Language Kit and Nisus Writer. The whole computer including the software was
cheaper the MS windows 98 and office 97.
	You also get much better support from Nisus software.
	Good luck!
	Mohammed Rahawi

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug 30 15:36:51 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:36:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Windows NT Responses
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Date: 30 Aug 1999
From: Paul Nelson <paulnel at microsoft.com>
Subject: Windows NT Response

You might try

George N. Hallak              Microsoft & Sakhr Arabic Software
AramediA Group                T 617 825-3044 F 617 265-9648
761 Adams Street                mailto:sales at aramedia.net
Boston, MA 02122, USA         http://aramedia.com

Paul Nelson
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2)
Date: 30 Aug 1999
From: Mark Meinke <issan at erols.com>
Subject: Windows NT Response

You might try contacting Aramedia in Boston on 6178253044.  They may have it or
know where it can be found.

DIGITEK INTERNATIONAL

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 31 14:43:59 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:43:59 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Learning Advice Query for deaf learner
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Date: 31 Aug 1999
From: Karen W <karen at webcombo.net>
Subject: Arabic Learning Advice Query for deaf learner

My name is Karen. I live in the USA. I am learning Arabic. I thought that I
might receive some helpful guidance in this listserv. I have a unique
problem in
learning the language: I am deaf. I became deaf at the age of 22. I have
learned
other languages since becoming deaf: German, American Sign Language and some
Swedish. My fiance lives in Jordan and I want to learn to speak, read and
write
Arabic. Hopefully, someone at your listserv might be able to advise me as
to the
best way to go about this, since I am unable to hear languages being spoken. I
currently teach American Sign Language (ASL) at the university level.
Karen

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug  2 14:45:56 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:45:56 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Arabic Advertisements Query
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Khalid Al-Shehari <mcuihka2 at fs1.ccl.umist.ac.uk>
Subject: Arabic Advertisements Query

Hi mates,
I'm currently undergoing research about the translation of adverts
from english into Arabic. I was able to collect a few (but not
enough) of Arabic adverts which seem to be translated from english
adverts. I found these in Arab magazines such as SAYIDATY and
ALMAJALLAH. The problem I encounter is that there are some adverts in
these magazines which seem to be translated from english but I don't
know where I can find there origins. Can you please advise me:
1- which Arab magazines feature advertisements (only
magazine) which seem to be translated or reproduced from english? and
2- what are the English magazines which feature the origins of these
adverts.
Thanks in advance.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug  2 14:51:15 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:51:15 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Sakhr Lexicons on the Internet
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1) Subject: Sakhr Lexicons on the Internet (Advertisement?)

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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Digitek International <sakhrus at erols.com>
Subject: Sakhr Lexicons on the Internet

New Arabic Language and Culture Resources on the Internet
Sakhr Adds Lexicons to Websites


Washington DC, July 28 -- Two major Arabic linguistic resources are now
freely available on the Internet. The Online Dictionary of Literary
Terms and a collection of the three best known Arabic lexicons are now
available through
   http://www.sakhr.com (Arabic interface),
   http://www.sakhrsoft.com (English interface), and
   http://www.sakhrus.com (English interface).

Teachers, students, researchers or anyone interested in Arabic
linguistics, culture, or history will find both resources invaluable
aids for understanding the Arabic vocabulary.
The Arabic Lexicon site (at lexicons.sakhr.com) uses Sakhr Software's
powerful search engines to navigate the Al-Moheet, Moheet Al-Moheet, and
the Al-Waseet lexicons.  Users can search the lexicons by word, word
root, or topic.

Sakhr has given the more specialized vocabulary of literary analysis and
criticism its own dedicated site (at literary.sakhr.com) with detailed
descriptions of the literary terms and their equivalents in English and
French.  The entries are from Ibrahim Fathi's Al-Mu'ajem Al-Mustalihat
Al-Adabiya.

Fahed Al-Sharekh, manager of Internet development projects at the
Alalamiah Group, parent company of Sakhr Software, notes that it is
Sakhr's "aim to make its Web site, www.sakhr.com, the largest Arabic
cultural site in terms of content and variety".  Among forthcoming
cultural resources, Al-Sharekh noted, are the complete Lissan Al-'Arab
lexicon of Arabic and the Al-Mo'alaqat Al-Saba'a, the famous seven
Arabic odes known since pre-Islamic times.

Sakhr's new contributions join its Encyclopedia of Arabic Cinema, its
own multilingual dictionary Al-Qamoos, and the collected poetry of
Al-Motanabi as existing Arabic cultural resources on the Internet.

In a related development, Sakhr Software has recently posted a version
of its popular Arabic Web browser, Sindbad, for Windows NT at its site.
The new version is available for free downloading at any of the Websites
mentioned above.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug  2 14:46:53 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:46:53 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Conventional References to Women Query
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: zmaalej <zmaalej at gnet.tn>
Subject: Conventional References to Women Query

Sorry for cross-posting.
Dear listers,

I am working on a cross-cultural survey on how women are talked about by men
as represented in some conventionalised metaphors. Part of this survey, of
course, will have to include a section on how women are talked about in the
various dialects of Arabic. In Tunisian Arabic, for instance, you may
overhear:

- She is a nymph (meaning of unbelievable beauty)
- She is a gem (meaning her beauty is exquisite)
- She is a melon (meaning she is a plump)
- He ate her (meaning he made love to her), etc.

If you can insert a few conventional references to women, your contribution
will be much appreciated, and many thanks in advance for your collaboration.
If you are interested in the result of this study, I promise you a summary.

Regards

Zouhair Maalej,

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug  2 14:48:02 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:48:02 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Verb Morphology Query
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Samira Farwaneh <sfarwaneh at juno.com>
Subject: Verb Morphology Query

Dear members,

Salaam and hope this heat wave will be over soon. I have some questions
concerning the inflection of perfective verbs in spoken Arabic. As
everyone knows, the inflection of weak and biliteral (geminate) verbs in
many dialects sometimes contain a long stressed mid vowel /ee/ as in
[raddeet] 'I answered', or [rameet] 'I threw', etc. My interest is not in
the diachronic analysis of this vowel, but rather in the presence or
absence of this vowel in different verb class paradigms. We do not find
this vowel in the inflection of strong verbs, for example, only katabt is
attested, and not *katabeet. Similarly, the vowel is absent in hollow
verb paradigms, we find zurt and not *zaareet.

I have presented a paper on this issue but I still have questions, the
answer to which may verify or falsify my analysis. Is it true that forms
like katabeet and zaareet are never attested? I seem to have a vague
recollection of my mother saying something like shaba9eeti? 'are you
full?' when talking to my younger sisters, but I do not have documented
data to corroborate this. So if you know or heard of such forms, please
answer the following questions:

1. In what linguistic domain do those forms appear, e.g., child language,
motherese language disorder, dialectal variation, language games, etc.
2. Do the forms appear randomly or regularly?
3. Is the appearance of the forms governed by any variable such as
gender, age, education, etc?
4. Do you know of any references on the topic?

Many thanks in advance for any info, suggestions, or discussion.

Samira Farwaneh
Dept of Linguistics
University of Utah

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug  2 14:49:59 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 08:49:59 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:UofU Position
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: mushira eid <mushira.eid at m.cc.utah.edu>
Subject: UofU Position

TENURE-TRACK ARABIC LITERATURE POSITION AT UNIVERSITY OF UTAH

The Department of Languages and Literature at the University of Utah, in
cooperation with the Middle East Center, seeks applicants for a joint
tenure-track position in Arabic language and literature at the rank of
assistant professor beginning August, 2000. Preference may be given to a
specialist in classical Arabic literature.   The successful candidate
should be prepared to teach courses in both classical and modern Arabic
literature at graduate and undergraduate levels, and participate in the
teaching of Arabic language as needed.  Knowledge of critical theory is
desirable.  The candidate should have a superior level of proficiency in
Arabic.

The appointment begins Fall Semester 2000.  Applicants must hold a Ph.D. or
have completed all degree requirements by the time of appointment.  Salary
package includes full benefits.  Applications, which should include a
curriculum vitae and the names of three referees (whom the applicant must
ask to submit letters of recommendation under separate cover), should be
sent to Dr. Peter Sluglett, Director, Middle East Center, University of
Utah, 260 S. Central Campus Dr., Rm. 153, Salt Lake City, Utah 84112-9157.
Preliminary interviews will be held at the MESA meeting in Washington this
November.  Review of applications will begin on October 15, 1998.  The
University of Utah is an AA/EOE employer and encourages nominations and
applications from women and minorities, and provides reasonable
accommodation to the known disabilities of applicants and employees.
Search will continue until position is filled.

Nancy Stroud
Middle East Center
801-581-5362

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug  3 14:24:40 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:24:40 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Preferred Names Hadith
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: "A. FERHADI" <af3 at is2.nyu.edu>
Subject: Preferred Names Hadith

I thought this might be of ineterest to some of you, especially those
working on Arabic names. I was listening to BBC's Arabic Service on the
Internet while doing my work and heard a "Hadiith" on the 'loveliest, most
veracious as well as the ugliest' names as seen by God.

	"aHabb-ul asmaa'-i @ind allaah: @abd-u llaah (Abdullah) wa @bd-ur
raHmaan (Abdul-Rahman); wa aSdaquhaa: Haarith wa hammaam; wa aqbaHuhaa:
Harb wa murrah."

This brings to mind another one I learned at junior high: "xayr-ul asmaa'-i
maa Hummid-a wa @ubbid." Paraphrase: The best of names are those containing
the root H-m-d (e.g. Ahmad, Muhammad, Mahmood, Haamid ...) and those
prefixed with Abd. I  should ask my parents if they chose my name on that
basis.

--Ahmed Ferhadi
New York University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug  3 14:22:24 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:22:24 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:Verb Morphology Response
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Abdelrahman Amer <a_amer at email.com>
Subject: Verb Morphology Response

I have failed to come up with any verb that has this vowel which does not end
either with an alef or a shadda.
raddeit -> radd (ends with a shadda)
rameit -> rama (ends with an alef)

All other verbs (that I could think of) seem to be lacking the vowel, when put
in first person form.
Here in Cairo I dont believe we have any exceptions for this rule.

Salam,
Abdou.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug  3 14:23:39 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:23:39 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Advertisements Response
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject: Advertisements Response

Greetings / tahaiya tayyiba wa b3ad...

Hiyaakum Allah jamii3aan...

Re translations / conversions of English <-> Arabic advertisements

You most probably will not find that the English-original text copy for an
advert would closely match or parallel that in its Arabic rendition.

o  Based on my practice with such advertisements, the into-Arabic
translations (the better and more-culturally-suited ones, at least)  usually
will address simailr themes (i.e., quality or benefits of the product, but
include different treatments, even if the visuals (photos, logos, symbols,
diagrams, et. al.) appear identical in their respective language versions.

o  The better Arabic adverts (those that pass the "giggle test" or "yaa
salaam!...rolling-of-the eyes response" when first read) are effectively
created "from scratch" after the translator(s) can study the English-original
ad and assess its features of the product (especially the complexity of the
subject), clean out imbedded jargon, buzzwords and "corporate-speak"), and
create a "culturized" version suited to the advert's intended Arabic
readership, tastes, and desired response by the readers. So, while the
visuals and graphics may match between the English and Arabic versions, the
text usually does not.

o  Some real clunkers of "quick-and-dirty" translations appear occasionally
in periodicals newly targeted at domestic Arabic-origin readerships in the US
(outside those areas where large and discriminating Arabic populations are
settled).

o  In addition to adverts found in Al-Majalla and Sayidatii, you might check
some of the adverts in issues of "Al-Sharq Al-Awsat" if you are interested
mostly in adverts targeted at general consumers and families.

o  FYI, one fine reference (although out of print, well worth finding and
reading via interlibrary loan) is the 1970s-vintage "McCann-Erickson Middle
East Study" (done by McE's branches in UK or Cyprus, I think) on advertising
preferences and media choices in the Middle East (GCC countries).

o  If you have some other questions re PR, media, advertising, public
diplomacy, impression management, promotions, joint ventures, and marketing
in the GCC region, Turkey and Iran, ahalan wa sahalan... (I research and
lecture on those subjects at a local university).

Hope this helps.

Khair, in sha' Allah.

Regards from Los Angeles,

Stephen H. Franke

E-mail: < mutarjm at aol.com >
           or < shfranke at msn.com >
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug  4 14:59:10 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:59:10 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING: Tunisian and Emirati Arabic Query
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Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: anowaira at inetalex.ie-eg.com
Subject: Tunisian and Emirati Arabic Query

[please respond directly to the requester]

Dear list members,

I'm seeking the help of native speakers of Tunisian and Emirati Arabic
on the connotations of a couple of words. I would really be grateful if
they responded to me directly.

Many thanks.
Amira Nowaira
anowaira at inetalex.ie-eg.com

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug  4 14:53:28 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:53:28 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Columbia Job
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Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: Taoufik Ben-Amor <tb46 at columbia.edu>
Subject: Columbia Job

 The Department of Middle East and Asian Languages and Cultures at
 Columbia University invites applications for a part-time Lecturer in
 Arabic for the academic year of 1999-2000. Applicants must have native
 or near native fluency in Arabic and experience teaching
non-native speakers at the undergraduate and graduate level. MA required,
 Ph.D. preferred in Arabic, linguistics or a related field.
 Send CV to Dr. Taoufik Ben-Amor, Middle East and
 Asian Languages and Cultures, 602 Kent Hall - Mail Code 3928, Columbia
 University, New York, NY 10027. Phone: (212) 854-2895.  Email:
 tb46 at columbia.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug  4 14:57:56 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:57:56 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Need DC Tutor
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Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: "A. R. Goldman" <argoldman at mindspring.com>
Subject: Need DC Tutor

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Ahlan wa sahlan
I hope that this message is appropriate...
I have studied Arabic for a couple of years, and am having some
difficulty finding a private tutor in the Washington DC area. My
interests lie primarily in Qur'an and Hadith (A teacher familiar
with Tajweed would be most helpful), and also at a later time, in
sha'Allah, with classical poetry. Spoken practice is of course
useful, but not my focus at this time...
If any readers of this list would know of any experienced
teachers, I would most appreciate a reply...
Wa's salaam
ARGoldman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug  4 14:56:33 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:56:33 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Wayne State Conf Program and Registration
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Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: Dallas Kenny <k.d.kenny at wayne.edu>
Subject: Wayne State Conf Program and Registration

The Dept. of Near Eastern & Asian Studies
& the Foreign Language Technology Center

College of Liberal Arts
together with

The American Association of
Teachers of Arabic
(AATA)

Presents

Bridging Past, Present & Future: Arabic as a Foreign Language in the New
Millennium

October 15 - 16, 1999
McGregor Memorial Conference Center

Organizers:
Aleya Rouchdy, Chair
Salim Khaldieh
K. Dallas Kenny
Jayne McGee


Registration Form

Name:

Address:

City/State:

Country:

Affiliation:

E-mail Address:

Registration deadline September 15, 1999.
Pre-Registration before 9/15/99.................$25
				 Registration at the door.......$35
WSU Faculty & Students free.

Checks, drawn on US banks, or international money orders should be made
payable to  Wayne State University, Arabic Symposium  #4-44098 and sent
with the registration form to Jayne McGee, 437 Manoogian Hall, Wayne State
University, Detroit, MI  48201, USA (email:aa5404 at wayne.edu) (phone: (313)
577-6538).


Genernal Information

The symposium will be held at the McGregor Center at Wayne State
University.  Rooms have been reserved at the St. Regis Hotel, 3071 W. Grand
Blvd., Detroit, MI  48202, (313) 873-3000.  The  St. Regis offers symposium
participants reduced rates $75 for single/doulbe rooms.  Reservations can be
made by contacting th hotel directly at (313) 873-3000 , fax (313)
873-2574.  Mention the Near Eastern & Asian Studies Arabic Sympomsium for
the reduced rate. In order to qualify for reduced conference rates and
insure availability, hotel reservations must be made by September 15, 1999.
The St. Regis is located about a mile north of the WSU campus and limited
free shuttle service is available.  Participants can take the shuttle from
Metro Airport to the St. Regis Hotel.

Parking is avilable in several WSU parking structures.  After parking,
drivers will need to purchase a parking card to exit the structure, from a
vending machine at the parking structure office.  The price of the parking
card is nominal.


Conference Website:
http://www.langlab.wayne.edu/NearEast/events.html

Friday, October 15
Morning Session

8:30-9:00         Registration

9:00-9:15         Introduction, Aleya Rouchdy
	          Welcome:
	          Marylin L. Williamson, Provost

9:15-9:30         Opening Remarks
	          Lawrence A. Scaff, Dean
	          College of Liberal Arts

9:30-10:30        Keynote Address:
	           Language, Teaching & Learning in the 21st Century
	           Emily Spinelli, President, ACTFL 1999

10:30-10:45      Refreshment Break

10:45-1:00      I. Past & P resent
                        Aleya Rouchdy, Wayne State University, Chair

Panels:
Linguistics & The Teaching of Arabic in the U.S.:  A Century In Perspecitive
Mushira Eid, University of Utah

Cultural Content Through Literary Texts: Teaching Advanced Arabic
Mona Mikhail, New York University

The Language of Literary Texts, Between Accessibility & Political Correctness
Aida Bamia, University of Flordia

Integrating Language & Culture Through The Comprehension of Idioms
Foazi El-Barouki, Defense Language Institute

The Effects of Learners' Output & Collaborative Tasks in the Acquistion of
Second Language: A Search for Empirical Evidence in L2 Arabic Classroom
Rabia Redouane, University of Toronto

Getting Personal
Joanne Wagerson, Oakland University

1:00-2:00       Lunch

Afternoon Session

2:15-4:15 II. New Directions for the Coming Millennium
Salim Khaldieh, Wayne State University, Chair

Panels:
Global Issues of Teaching Advanced Arabic As a Foreign Language in the New
Millennium
Malik Balla, Michigan State University

Teachning Listening Comprehension in Arabic: A New Direction For the New
Century
Mahmoud Al-Batal, Emory University

Integrating Reading in Literary Arabic and Discussing It in Colloquial
Shlomo Alon, Hebrew University

Goals and Perspectives of Arabic Teaching in the Third Millennium
Mark Van Mol, Katholieke University-Leuven

The Challenge of Introducing the MSA Alphabet on the Basis of the
Linguistic Approach Via the Learning Resources of the Global Theory
Susanne Ayad Massoud, American University in Cairo

6:00-8:00       Awards & Reception

Saturday, October 16
Morning Session

8:30-9:00       Registration

9:00-11:00  III. Technology & the Teaching of Arabic
Dallas Kenny, Wayne State University, Chair

Panels:
Development & Marketing of AFL Courseware: Producing Flexible, Viable &
Effective Language Software Vehicles for Variable Needs
Mark W. Meinke, Digitek International

Developing Reading Comprehension Strategies for Beginning & Intermediate
Arabic Students Using Interactive Multimedia Tools
Nabil Abdelfattah, University of California at Berkeley

Muiltimedia Teaching Materials: Merits & Impediments
Waheed Sami, American University in Cario

Use of Computer-Based Multimedia Technology in the Teaching of Classical
Arabic Texts
Steven Blackburn, Hartford Trinity College

Looking Ahead - With Both Feet on the Ground
Kirk Belnap, Brigham Young University

11:00-11:15       Refreshment Break

11:15-12:45  IV. Teaching Arabic in
the Detroit Arab Community
Manuel R. Mazon, Wayne State University, Chair


Panels:
Arabic in Dearborn Schools:  Diverse Interests, Different Needs
Kenneth K. Ayouby, Wayne State University

Prerequisite for a Successful Dual: English & Arabic Programs
Shereen Tabrizi Arraf, Dearborn Public Schools

Teaching Arabic to Children of Arab Immigrants: Community Expectations &
Existing Resources
Rifat Dika, Wayne State University


1:00-2:00       Lunch

Afternoon Session

2:15-3:30  V. Technology & the Teaching of Arabic
Theresa Antes, Wayne State University, Chair

Panels:
Computer-Assisted Instruction as a Reinforcing & Remedial Tool For
Proficiency-Oriented Syllabi
Mohammad T. Alhawary, Georgetown University

Teaching Arabic Grammar: A CD-ROM Based Computer Program
Sanaa Ghanem, American University in Cairo

Arabic Distance Learning: A Progress Report
Terri Deyoung, University of Washington

Turning Students into Televisions Stars: Teaching Arabic Through
Interactive Video
Nadia Yaqub, University of Washington

Sponsors

Colleges
College of Education
College of Liberal Arts
College of  Lifelong Learning
The Graduate School
Office of Vice-President for Academic Affairs
Office of Research & Sponsored Programs

Departments
Classics, Greek & Latin
Foreign Language Technology Center
German & Slavic Studies
International Studies
Linguistics
Near Eastern & Asian Studies
Romance Languages & Literature

Space Available for Book & Software Exhibits

Dallas Kenny, PhD
Director
Foreign Language Technology Center
3rd Floor, Manoogian Hall
Wayne State University
Detroit, Michigan  48202  USA

k.d.kenny at wayne.edu

Tel: 313-577-6390
Fax: 313-577-3041

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug  4 14:55:08 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 08:55:08 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Verb Morphology Responses
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2) Subject: Verb Morphology Response

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Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: Louis Boumans <louis.boumans at gironet.nl>
Subject: Verb Morphology Response

In response to Samira Farwaneh's query on the suffix conjugation in modern
dialects,
?
* Versteegh, Kees (1997) The Arabic Language. Edinburh Univ Press. P. 100-101
discusses the final vowel in the so-called weak conjugation. He mentions
the shiite dialect of bahrain as one where the suffixes of the weak
conjugation have become generalised to all verbal classes, so /kitbeet/ "i
wrote", /nameet/ "i slept".
?
* in Moroccan and other maghreb varieties of Arabic, the vowel in 1st and
2nd person suffix conjugation is characteristic for verb stems containing a
long vowel (other than so-called class III and VI), notably verbs denoting
colour or other attribute, e.g. /Hmaariit/ "i became red" /qlaaliitu/ "you
have become few" etc., and some verbs of class VIII, /xtaariit/ "i chose",
/Htaajiit/ "i needed", alongside /xteRt/ /Htejt/ etc. This in addition to
the forms /reddiit/, /m$iit/ etc, common all over the arab world.
c.f. for instance Cohen, Marcel (1912), Le parler arabe des juifs d'Alger.
or Caubet, D. (1993) L'arabe marocain.?
?
I hope this will be of any help, regards, Louis Boumans
?
Louis Boumans
Rijksuniversiteit Leiden, CNWS,
Postbus 9515, 2300 RA Leiden,
+31-71-527 29 95?

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2)
Date: 04 Aug 1999
From: Peter Law <plaw at go.com.jo>
Subject: Verb Morphology Response

Similarly in Jordanian (and Palestinian & Syrian?) I have never
come across and verbs, other than those ending in shaddi or weak
vowel, which have this vowel sound.

However, in Jordanian, some "ism faa9il" forms will have a long
vowel in the feminine form before the "taa marbuuta" where a short
vowel might be expected. For instance:

hiyyi mish laabisiitu
She is not wearing it;

rather than:
hiyyi mish laabistu

Regards
Peter
Peter Law
plaw at go.com.jo
Box 4681, Amman 11131, Jordan.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Aug  5 17:16:37 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:16:37 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Verb Morphology Response
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Date: 08 Aug 1999
From: "Munther A. Younes" <may2 at cornell.edu>
Subject: Verb Morphology Response

I am sure I heard  Ta<meet "I fed" (from the sound root /T<m/) used by
Palestinian speakers. As far as I know,  it is not used in my subdialect of
Palestinian (the Jenin area). I can't think of any other verbs that derive
from a sound root and have this structure. The form could be the result of
an analogy with sakeet "I gave water to", since the two verbs and their
their derivatives are frequently used together ('aT<amtu wsakeetu " I fed
him and gave him water").

Munther Younes
Cornell University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Aug  5 17:17:32 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:17:32 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Error Analysis query
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Date: 08 Aug 1999
From: Robert Hilden <rhilden at best.com>
Subject: Error Analysis query

[please respond directly to requestor]

Hello All:

I'm looking for error analysis descriptions of errors made by native
Arabic speakers learning English. Included here would be contrastive
analysis as well as interlanguage approaches.

Robert Hilden
Berkeley

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 10 21:25:14 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:25:14 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Error Analysis response
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Date: 10 Aug 1999
From: SAGMLETOUR at aol.com
Subject: Error Analysis response

Dear Professor HIlden,

During my Fulbright in the English Department at the University of Khartoum
1989-90, an instructor was writing a master's thesis on Arabic-English error
analysis (actually, at the time I met her, she was collecting data).  I can't
recall her name, but she was German and married to a Sudanese and had a
compound surname.  Whether the thesis is available I don't know.
I hope this helps, even though chances of finding it are slim.

Mark LeTourneau

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 10 21:27:50 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:27:50 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:QUERIES:Rushdi Khatir/Transliterated Quran
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1) Subject: Transliterated Quran Query

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Date: 10 Aug 1999
From: AHMED KHORSHID <KHORSHID at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Rushdi Khatir query

If you know how I can contact Dr. Rushdi Khatir, please let me know.
Thanks.

Ahmad Khorshid

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2)
Date: 10 Aug 1999
From: Brent Poirier <mariposa at roadrunner.com>
Subject: Transliterated Quran Query

A transliterated Qur'an would be most helpful if anyone knows of one on the
Web (the ones I've found are all dead links) or for sale.
Thanks
Brent Poirier
Las Cruces NM USA
brent at bci.org

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Aug 11 14:48:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:48:17 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Transliterated Quran Response
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Date: 02 Aug 1999
From: Yaser Al-Onaizan <yaser at clsp.jhu.edu>
Subject: Transliterated Quran Response

Greeting all,

A free transliterated copy of the Quraan can be obtained from the follwoing
web site:

http://www.muslimnet.net/notes.htm

Regards,
Yaser

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug 16 16:08:16 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:08:16 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Land Mines Query
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Date: 16 Aug 1999
From: moderator
Subject: Land Mines Query

An international NGO has contacted the AATA headquarters and asked for the
best Arabic translation of :

Danger, Land Mines

They are making signs to put up in the war torn regions of Africa where
some Arabic speakers reside.  If anyone would send me their best, and most
understandable version of this (remember, the target population could be
barely literate) I will pass it on to the NGO.

Thanks,
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug 16 16:38:44 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:38:44 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:EA course query
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Date: 16 Aug 1999
From: Nancy Coffin <nac3 at columbia.edu>
Subject: EA course query

Dear Folks:

I am desperately seeking a text for use in an Egyptian colloquial course
this fall.  Ideally, I'd like a book that uses Arabic script, rather than
transliteration, and if there is something available with accompanying
audio-cassettes that students can listen to at home as well, that would be
even better.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance,

Nancy Coffin

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug 16 16:37:50 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:37:50 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:aajiliin query
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Date: 16 Aug 1999
From: Salah Maduh <salmaduh at worldnet.att.net>
Subject: aajiliin query

I need help with translating a sentence in a marriage certificate. The
sentence reads as follows "... ala mahar mo'(ain)ajalaho xxxx and mo'ajalaho
xxxxx baqi bi-dhimatt al-zawj (ain)nda aqrab al-aajileen."

What does "al-aajileen" refer to here! Is it marriage and divorce?


Any feedback would be much appreciated.

Salah

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug 16 16:36:48 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 10:36:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Translation Images Query
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Date: 16 Aug 1999
From: Z.A.Deeb at newcastle.ac.uk
Subject: Translation Images Query

Dear all,
During my PhD study in translation and while surveying the
literature, I came across some very interesting quotations that
compare translation or a translated work to something and a
translator/translators to somebody. Among the quotations I
 noted down are the following.

-ABOUT TRANSLATION:
 1. James Howell compares poetry to a luxurious Turkish carpet
 and compares a translation of a poem to a luxurious Turkish carpet
turned over.

 2. Norman Shapiro says, "a good translation is like a pane of glass.
You only notice that it's there when there are little imperfections -
 scratches, bubbles. Ideally, there shouldn't be any. It should never
 call attention to itself."

 3. "Torture and translation are, in fact, amongst the few fates that
 can be worse than death. Strictly speaking, translation is a subtle
 form of torture", The Spectator, 24. September, quoted in (Duff,
1981: 1).

4. "Translation is like a women; if beautiful, is never faithful, if
faithful, would not be beautiful".*

-ABOUT TRANSLATORS:
1- "A translator is like a cook; he should know the recipe but add
his own spices", kate Yarbrough (Third ITI International Colloquium
on Literary Translation, 1-3rd September 1998, Sheffield, UK.

 2- "Translators, like nudists,... ...", [Holman, 1997: 280]

*This is an often quoted saying but I still could not trace its
origin.

I feel that such sayings are worth studying to investigate in what
contexts they were said and how far they relate to the theory of
translation. Also, they raise the question: why in translation such
similes are more frequent than in any other discipline. If any one is
aware of similar sayings, I would be grateful if he or she could
pass them to me directly at my e.mail address:

                                                 Z.A.Deeb at ncl.ac.uk.
In anticipation of your co-operation, I thank you in advance.

Zakia Deeb

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 17 19:31:01 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:31:01 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Land Mine Thanks
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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: moderator
Subject: Land Mine Thanks

Thanks all who responded to the Land Mines query.  There are too many to
post them all, but several had actually seen such signs in various parts of
the Arab World, so I think we were able to get the correct information to
the NGO.
Thanks again.
dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 17 19:39:48 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:39:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:EA Course Responses
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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: AHMED KHORSHID <KHORSHID at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: EA Course Response

Dear Nancy,

By far the best book I've ever seen, and used, for teaching introductory
CA is "ahlan wa sahlan" by Wadie Boutros, dar en-nashr Hatier.
Unfortunately, the explanation and vocabulary are given in French. Not
surprisingly, I couldn't use it at the American University in Cairo.
However, I do use it for private tutoring. In this case, I supply the
English translation myself. The dialogs are in both Arabic script and
Latin script, but the exercises are in Latin only. I've also found a
solution to this problem that I'm willing to share with you if you are
interested. The advantages of this book are:

1. good order of presenting grammar.
2. close relationship between grammatical points and dialogs.
3. good choice of words.
4. it's accompanied by three good-quality audio tapes.

Your second choice may be "anistuuna" by Nahid Awni, (I think) AUC press.
It's in English, but doesn't compare to the first.

Hope this helps.

Ahmad Khorshid
Arabic Language Instructor
The American University in Cairo

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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject: EA Course Response

Greetings / ahalan wa sahalan...

You might check the American University of Cairo (AUC) Press, which published
a series of textbooks for foreign students interested in the Cairene dialect.
They were paperbacks (if I recall correctly) and appeared in the
early/mid-1980s. Several audiocassette tapes may have accompanied the texts,
which emphasized basic conversations and most-frequent social events and
occasions. Loaded with colloquialisms (baladiyaat).

U of Michigan also might have some AE texts, more likely including Arabic
text, rather than burdensome transliteration such as appeared in the first
volume of the AUC publications.

That's about all I can remember about the Cairene materials, as I am more
specialized in dialectology and in arabization of foreign terms in the
Arabian Peninsula and Gulf region.

Hope this helps.

Khair, in sha' Allah.

Regards from Los Angeles,

Stephen H. Franke

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3)
Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject: EA Course Response

I hope this multimedia title would help, check it out.
SMiles' Arabic Made Easy Multimedia CD-ROM.

Arabic Made Easy is an interactive CD-ROM that
teaches the Arabic alphabet, beginning reading
and writing, and the Egyptian dialect.

Want to learn how to speak Arabic? Arabic Made Easy
provides a fun, virtual world for you to experience
the language of day to day conversation.  Travel
through an Egyptian city! Talk to the old man on the
street! Click on the taxi, and the driver will take
you to the destination of your choice.  Exciting
adventures await you at each locale: Haggle with the
merchants at the market; dine with friends and order
native cuisine; check-in at a hotel and much more!
The sights and sounds of the city come alive!
Its like really being there! Price $46.00.

Download a Free Demo at http://aramedia.com/smiles.htm

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the first item depending on weight. Checks/Money Orders
are accepted only for prepaid orders, we ship after
check is cleared. We also accept most USA Credit Cards.
Please contact us for worldwide shipping rates (Starts
at $20.00), and other sale conditions.

Ahlan Wa Sahlan,

George N. Hallak        Microsoft Sakhr Arabic Islamic Software
AramediA Group          T 617 825-3044 F 617 265-9648
761 Adams Street        mailto:sales at aramedia.net
Boston, MA 02122, USA   http://aramedia.com

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 17 19:40:42 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:40:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Error Analysis Response
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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: akhalil at mail.bethlehem.edu
Subject: Error Analysis Response

Dear Robert,

I am an Associate Professor of Applied Linguistics in the English
Department at Bethlehem University. I did my PH.D. on Error
Evaluation at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
(1981-1984). I published a summary article in the TESOL Quarterly in
1985. I have been teaching an Error Analysis course to
Arabic-spealing Palestinian students majoring in English. Two years
ago I wrote a textbook on Error Analyis two years ago. It is still a
manuscript. I have collected thousands of errors made by school
learners of English.

I have writtn a textbook entitled A Contrastive Grammar of English
and Arabic, which I have using for a Contrastive LInguistics courses
offered to English majors with a minor in English-Arabic translation.
In fact I wrote during a sabbatical at the University of Michigan,
Ann Arbor. I got  Fulbright scholarship during that year. The book is
used at other Palestinian universities and some universities in
Jordan. I have revised the textbook and I am planning to submit
the revised erition to a publishing company in Jordan, most probably
by the end of this month.

I would like to know more about what you actually need the textbook
for. Do you teach Arabic-speaking EFL learners? Are you doing
research on EA?

I am planning to apply for a Fulbright to spend my sabbatical in the
US next year (2000-2001). I will write to different universities to
ge a letter of invitation to spend the sabbatical year there.

Please let me know how I can be of further assistance to you.


Aziz Khalil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 17 19:36:58 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:36:58 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:ajalayn responses
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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: Yrttiaho <kaarlo.yrttiaho at dlc.fi>
Subject: ajalayn response

I have once  been told by my  collegue that this  'ajalain ( dual of 'ajal)
refers to the  (two) times of death of the ( two) persons in question. 3inda
aqrab al-'ajalain would be at the time of the first one of these two
deaths -  the times of which only Allaahu ta3aalaa knows
 See  also the Qoranic al'ajalu l-musammaa.

With the best wishes

Kaarlo Yrttiaho

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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: Farouk Mustafa <fawm at midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: ajalayn response

It is divorce and death of the husband.
Farouk

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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: Muhammed Suleiman <suleiman at lineone.net>
Subject: ajalayn response

> What does "al-aajileen" refer to here! Is it marriage and divorce?
>
 No, it would not be marriage and divorce. Divorce would not be alluded to
in a marriage certificate.

_ab at ad al-aajileen_ would refer to _al-aajilah_ = 'the hereafter', but  the
individual first experiences _aqrab al-aajileen_, which would be his own
death.

The mahr [ note no second _a_ in Classical Arabic] if deferred [ = mahr
mu'ajjal] is not  forfeited on the death of the husband.If the husband were
to die, then his (blood) relatives would be responsible for payment of any
outstanding dowry to his wife.

Hope this helps,

Dr M. Suleiman

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4)
Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: OMHAFEZ at aucegypt.edu
Subject: ajalayn response

I'm not an expert in the area, but I keep hearing that "3ajiloho" is paid
upon marriage, and "mo'ajalaho" is paid upon one of the "aajilain", meaning
the husband's death or their divorce, whichever comes first.
Salam
Ola

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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: AHMED KHORSHID <KHORSHID at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: ajalayn response

al-ajalayn refers to divorce or death.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 17 19:42:19 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:42:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Support for Arabic Windows and Word
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Date: 17 Aug 1999
From: Mahmoud Al-Batal <albatal at emory.edu>
Subject: Support for Arabic Windows and Word

Dear Friends,
    I have just learned that Glyph Systems has stopped providing support for
Microsoft Arabic products because Microsoft has refused to renew their
support contract. This means that users of Microsoft Arabic products are
left without support. Going to Microsoft's web page has not been of help. I
would be grateful for any suggestions about how to get "real" help and
support for Arabic Windows and MS Word.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Aug 20 15:12:46 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:12:46 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:EA Course
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Date: 20 Aug 1999
From: Jackie Murgida <jmurg at star.net>
Subject: EA Course

>but the exercises are in Latin only. I've also found a
>solution to this problem that I'm willing to share with you if you are
>interested.

Prof. Khorshid, could you describe your solution briefly for all of us on
the list who are interested? I know, I am.

Thanks,
Jackie Murgida
jmurg at star.net

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Aug 20 15:16:02 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:16:02 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Support for MS Arabic Products
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Date: 20 Aug 1999
From: Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject: Support for MS Arabic Products

Greetings to all / tahiaya tayyiba wa b3ad...

Re the informative note by Mahmoud Al-Batal at Emory University that the
"hemaars" at Glyph Systems had ceased their support (as anemic, surly and
indifferent as that "support" had been over the past few years) of MS Arabic
products. (Allah yudabbarhum...)

Contacting the generic, US-based MS web site is an exercise in futility.
Except for the work-saturated people in the MS Arabic Beta Program there, the
MS crowd in Redmond seems clueless and comatose about MS bilingual products.

A more likely and productive MS web site to contact for assistance with
Arabic-supported products is MS Middle East in Dubai, UAE at URL <
http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/ >.

That site has  some reliable and helpful  "shebaab" there...(maa qassaroo,
abadaan),  although most advice available would likely cover only current MS
Arabic products (Windows 95 and newer).

I also would be glad to help advise from some background as an office-level
user of MS Arabic products and from a few years operating online into and
from Arabic.

Perhaps Mr. Gates can ask HRH Prince Awaleed bin Talal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud,
his friend and one of the prime foreign investors in MSC (as well as in the
unfortunate Teledesic firm that now is under Chapter 11 protection), to
sponsor a support site for MS Arabic products and users, either in the US or
the GCC/Gulf region

Hope this information helps in some measure.

Khair, in sha' Allah.

Regards from Los Angeles,

Stephen H. Franke

E-mail: < mutarjm at aol.com >

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2)
Date: 20 Aug 1999
From: "Rahawi, Mohammed" <RahawiM at state.gov>
Subject: MS Arabic Solution

SWITCH TO MAC!

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 24 23:31:41 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:31:41 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Translation job
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Date: 24 Aug 1999
From: Jackie Murgida <jmurg at star.net>
Subject: Translation job

[please respond directly to Angie, not to Jackie or to Arabic-L]

FYI, this msg. was posted on Compuserve's FLEFO [Foreign language] forum,
from "Angie (Spain) 100770.1220 at compuserve.com".
- - - - -
Is anybody available to translate a web page from English into Arab, it is
not very long but could result in work work later.

Please send me your rates.

Angie
- - - - -

[Please address any messages on this to Angie, *not* to me.]

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 24 23:30:19 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:30:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Teledesic correction
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Date: 24 Aug 1999
From: Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject: Teledesic correction

Greetings.

Whoops on one part of my previous note re support of MS Arabic.

The firm that went under bankruptcy protection was Iridium, rather than
Teledesic, which is alive and well (so investments by Mr. Gates and HRH
Prince Alwaleed et al are viable and aapreciating).

Regards and regrets,

Stephen

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 24 23:29:24 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:29:24 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New dissertation and thanks
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Date: 24 Aug 1999
From: Steven Blackburn <Steven.Blackburn at mail.trincoll.edu>
Subject: New dissertation and thanks

Dear Everyone,

Having (finally!) finished, and defended, my doctoral thesis, I would like
to thank those who responded to my occasional linguistic pleas for help,
and to those of you who, by "just being there", were very much a moral
support to me -- as lecturer in Arabic at Trinity College, Hartford, I am
the only Arabist, and one of only two Semiticists, at this institution.

The thesis, by the way, is entitled "Early Arabic Versions of the Book of
Job (first millennium c.e.)", for which the University of St. Andrews,
Scotland, is awarding me a Ph.D. in Religion.

Thanks again!

Steven Blackburn

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 24 23:28:14 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:28:14 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:MS Arabic Products
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1) Subject: MS Office 2000 query

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Date: 24 Aug 1999
From: Paul Nelson <paulnel at microsoft.com>
Subject: MS Arabic Products

The good news for new products beginning with IE5, Office 2000 and Windows
2000 is that they are world-wide executables and you no longer require a
special Arabic version. Thus you can use the normal US support chanels.

I can empathize, and sympathize, with your support frustrations. Microsoft
ME in Dubai is your best alternative at this time.

Paul Nelson
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Date: 24 Aug 1999
From: "Mohammad A. Mohammad" <mohammad at aall.ufl.edu>
Subject: MS Office 2000 query

Now that the issue of MS products comes up again, I have a question that
some of you there may answer. Since I have to fork over the cash for Arabic
software from my own pocket, I was trying (in vain, so far) to find
affordable software on the internet.  Anyway, on one of the searches for
'Arabic software' one of the search engines came back with MS Office 2000
Premium.  Never mind the price for the moment.  The description says
something like '..it is now easy to create multilingual documents.'  On
that day I popped into Sam's Club to look at MS Office. On the lower
right-hand corner of the box (I do not remember whether it was Standard of
Professional) it says that in the 'language edition it can automatically
recognize the language the user is typing in and activates spell-check.
The box says this edition supports 25 languages.  The English edition, on
the other hand, says the box, does this only for English, French, and
Spanish.  My question is really simple: What does this mean?

Another related question.  On this search I stumbled on some auction stuff.
Many people are offering Microsoft Products at affordable prices.  They say
their porduct is the original factory-sealed product minus the box and the
manual. Oh yes, the sellers say that version they are selling is legal and
is registerable online. My question: can anyone enlighten me as to the
importance or significance of the box and the manual?

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Aug 26 14:57:09 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:57:09 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Windows NT Query
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Date: 26 Aug 1999
From: YemenLC at aol.com
Subject: Arabic Wndows NT

Does any one know where I can purchase the Arabic version of Windows NT 4.0?
Regards,
Mohammed Rahawi

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Aug 26 15:02:44 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:02:44 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:MS Arabic Products
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Date: 26 Aug 1999
From: "Rahawi, Mohammed" <RahawiM at state.gov>
Subject: MS Arabic Products

We office 2000 at my office that was purchased on the account that it
support Arabic. It includes some Arabic fonts. However, the Arabic does not
work with Windows NT 4.0!
	It was much cheaper for us to buy an iMac which comes with the Apple
Language Kit and Nisus Writer. The whole computer including the software was
cheaper the MS windows 98 and office 97.
	You also get much better support from Nisus software.
	Good luck!
	Mohammed Rahawi

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Aug 30 15:36:51 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:36:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Windows NT Responses
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Date: 30 Aug 1999
From: Paul Nelson <paulnel at microsoft.com>
Subject: Windows NT Response

You might try

George N. Hallak              Microsoft & Sakhr Arabic Software
AramediA Group                T 617 825-3044 F 617 265-9648
761 Adams Street                mailto:sales at aramedia.net
Boston, MA 02122, USA         http://aramedia.com

Paul Nelson
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Date: 30 Aug 1999
From: Mark Meinke <issan at erols.com>
Subject: Windows NT Response

You might try contacting Aramedia in Boston on 6178253044.  They may have it or
know where it can be found.

DIGITEK INTERNATIONAL

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Aug 31 14:43:59 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:43:59 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Learning Advice Query for deaf learner
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Date: 31 Aug 1999
From: Karen W <karen at webcombo.net>
Subject: Arabic Learning Advice Query for deaf learner

My name is Karen. I live in the USA. I am learning Arabic. I thought that I
might receive some helpful guidance in this listserv. I have a unique
problem in
learning the language: I am deaf. I became deaf at the age of 22. I have
learned
other languages since becoming deaf: German, American Sign Language and some
Swedish. My fiance lives in Jordan and I want to learn to speak, read and
write
Arabic. Hopefully, someone at your listserv might be able to advise me as
to the
best way to go about this, since I am unable to hear languages being spoken. I
currently teach American Sign Language (ASL) at the university level.
Karen

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