ARABIC-L: LIT: Arabic Proverb Responses

Dilworth B. Parkinson Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu
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1) Subject: Three Titles
2) Subject: Two Titles
3) Subject: "kamA qAlati al-`arabu" ("As the Arabs Say")
4) Subject: "Arabic and Islamic Proverbs"
5) Subject: "Arabic Proverbs with Side by Side English Translations"
6) Subject: "A Comprehensive Study of Egyptian Arabic..."

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1)
Date: 22 Feb 1999
From: Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject: Three References

Greetings.

Today is Friday, February 19, 1999.

Here are three references in English (all include Arabic-text original
proverbs):

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This is the best reference among those in this list.

1.  "As the Arabs Say" (Vols. I&II)
           Volume I   ISBN: 0-912369-00-0  (1983)
           Volume II  ISBN: 0-912369-01-0  (1985)
     Author:     Isa Khalil Sabbagh
     Publisher: Sabbagh Management Corporation, 1983
                     3310 45th Street, NW
                     Washington, DC 20016

May be out of print, but it's worth calling the firm (SMC) in Washington or
borrowing the volumes via interlibrary loan.

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2.  "Omanee Proverbs"
     Compiler/editor: A.S. Jayakar
     (Recently re-published paperback monograph, adapted from article
published in circa-1905 (?) issue of the JRAS, London.
     Publisher of reprint unknown

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3.  "[ The Son ] of the Duck is a Floater" (Estimate of title items inside
brackets)
     Slim, illustrated paperback. Lighweight.
     Publisher unknown (might be UK publisher)
     Possibly available via B&N or amazon.com

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Depending on the requester's research interests, there are numerous books and
monographs in Arabic available about proverbs, including detailed works by
ethnographers and linguists about proverbs (and their social contexts) in
customary use in the Arabian Peninsula and Gulf region.

o  Several bookstore chains in Saudi Arabia and UAE carry most of the current
titles on the subject.

o  The national centers for preservation of history and heritage centers in
GCC countries have internal collections.

Hope this helps.

Regards from Los Angeles,

Stephen H. Franke

E-mail: < mutarjm at aol.com >

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2)
Date: 22 Feb 1999
From: Muhammad Deeb <mdeeb at gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Two Titles

Dear Doris,

	There is a large body of material on the subject.  You may want to
use, for a start, the two bilingual titles below.

Burchhardt, John Lewis (1784 - 1817),

		*Arabic Proverbs, or The Manners and Customs of the Modern
		Egyptians.* 3rd. edn.  London: Curzon Press, 1972.

Elkhadem, Saad, ed. & trans.

		*Life Is Like a Cucumber: Colloquial Egyptian Proverbs,
		Course Sayings and Popular Expressions. Fredericton
		(Canada): YOrk Press Ltd., 1993.

	Munir Ba at labaki's annually updated English-Arabic Dictionary usually
has a generous supply of proverbs.  He calls the appendage "The Lamps of
Experience: a Collection of English Proverbs with Origins and Arabic
Equivalents."

	I hope that would be of some assistance.

						M. Deeb

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3)
Date: 22 Feb 1999
From: "Chouairi, R. MR           DFL" <GR6548 at exmail.usma.army.mil>
Subject: "kamA qAlati al-`arabu" ("As the Arabs Say")

Greetings
 One of the best books on Arab proverbs is Issa Sabbagh's "kamA qAlati
al-`arabu" (it is in English with the proverbs printed in Arabic).  The 2
volumes are out of print but I know few people who were able to get them
through "out of print" services on the Internet.  Good Luck.

					Rajaa Chouairi
					  West Point

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4)
Date: 22 Feb 1999
From: Alford T Welch <welch at pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: "Arabic and Islamic Proverbs"

In response to a query from Doris, she might want to seek out a copy of
Paul Lunde and Justin Wintle,
Arabic and Islamic Proverbs (London: Routledge
Chapman and Hall Ltd., 1984), repr. Rupa Paperback,
Calcutta, 1989).  The back of the cover page gives the
address of the latter as 15 Bankin Chatterjee St,
Calcutta 700 073 (with branches also in New Delhi,
Bombay, and Allahabad).  The printer is listed as:
Ahad Enterprises, 2609 Baradari, Ballimaran, Delhi
110 006.

I've had this little volume for several years, and have no
idea where I picked it up -- possibly in London.

Alford T Welch
Michigan State University

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5)
Date: 22 Feb 1999
From: Steven Blackburn <Steven.Blackburn at mail.trincoll.edu>
Subject: "Arabic Proverbs with Side by Side English Translations"

"Arabic Proverbs with Side by Side English Translations", Joseph Hanki.
New York:  Hippocrene Books, 1998.

(I haven't actually looked at the book yet; just thought it looked
interesting, and so it rests on my shelf...)

Steven Blackburn
Senior Lecturer
Arabic and Islam
Trinity College
Hartford, CT 06106

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6)
Date: 22 Feb 1999
From: greenman <greenman at zedat.fu-berlin.de>
Subject: "A Comprehensive Study of Egyptian Arabic..."

One is "A Comprehensive Study of Egyptian Arabic, Volume Two, Proverbs
and Metaphoric Expressions". The authors are Ernest Abdel-Massih
(RaHamahu allaaah), El-Said Badawi, and Zaki Abdel-Malek, and Ernest
McCarus. (ISBN 0-932098-12-6)

It was published by the Center for Near East and North African Studies
at the U. of Michigan, Ann Arbor in 1978.

You can contact the Center via the website at
http://www.umich.edu/~iinet/cmenas/. Maybe they can tell you if the book
is still available.

Best regards from Berlin,
Joe
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