From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan  7 18:49:03 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:49:03 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Root of 'nasta:iinu' responses
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1) Subject: @ayn waaw noon
2) Subject: 'ala wazn istaf'ala
3) Subject: root "3-w-n"
4) Subject: transcription
5) Subject: root /<wn/
6) Subject: ('ayn waaw nuun)
7) Subject: not ghayn as initial cosonnant

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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject: @ayn waaw noon

Hi,

  The ':' symbol can only be representing an '@ayn' (voiced pharyngeal
approximate).  This is a form ten, the root is @ayn waaw noon.  My
paper-bound 4th edition Hans Wehr lists this root starting at the bottom
of page 771.  The form 10 'ista at aana, yasta at iinu, 'ista at aana(tun) can be
found on page 772.  According to Wehr : to ask for (s.o.'s; bi or hu) help
(against; @alaa).

  Other useful lexical items from this root are forms III and VI:
III = @aawana = he helped
VI = ta at aawanuu = they cooperated

So =
'iiyaaka na:budu wa 'iiyaaka nasta:iinu'
 can only be translated
'you we worship and you we ask for help'

Andrew Freeman
Ph.D. student UofM, Ann Arbor, Michigan

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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: Jackie Murgida <jmurg at star.net>
Subject: 'ala wazn istaf'ala

Grover, the system that your dictionaries use to categorize the verbs [Forms
I-XV] is not what native speakers of Arabic use. One of the best things I
ever learned in Arabic class was the Arabic system, which uses the letters
faa', 'ayn, and laam for the first, middle, and last letters of the root.
So, Form I = fa'ala/fa'ila, etc.; Form II = fa''ala, Form III is faa'ala,
and so on.  If you tell a native speaker that a verb is 'ala wazn istaf'ala,
for instance, he'll know what you're talking about [according to the pattern
of istaf'ala].

Maybe some of our colleagues could provide the verb charts using the f'l
system for you. It makes a lot more sense if you see it all on one page in
Arabic. Usually it has perfect, imperfect, passives [all in 3ms],
participles, and the maSdar [verbal noun]. Once you see the whole thing for
sound verbs and then learn what happens with weak verbs [like ista'aana] you
realize that it's a beautifully regular system and you see how everything
relates. At least, that's the way I felt when I was learning Arabic.

An expensive dictionary, but useful for people who haven't yet mastered the
Western system, is the Mawrid. Words are listed by *stem*, rather than root,
so nasta'iinu, stem 'ista'aana would be under the first letter, alif, rather
than the first letter of the root, 'ayn. It's not perfect, but it can be a
good alternative when you're stuck *if* you can determine the 3ms form of a
verb and the singular of a plural noun -- or make good guesses.  It's much
easier for your students to deal with than roots, I think.

Good luck!

Jackie

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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: Robert Langer <rlanger at ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Subject: root "3-w-n"

"Nasta3înu" is X ("istaf3ala") of the root "3-w-n" (no verbal I ("fa3ala")
according to Wehr for this root, only the noun "3awn - engl. help").
X ("istaf3ala") meaning - amoung other meanings - "to beg for something" in
this case means "to beg for help".
 
Best wishes for 1999 and thanks to all replying to my "cake" query.
 
Robert Langer, Tutor
Seminar für Sprachen und Kulturen des Vorderen Orients: Islamwissenschaft
Ruprecht-Karls-Universität Heidelberg
Sandgasse 7
D-69117 Heidelberg, Neckar
E-mail: rlanger at ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de


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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: aissati <aissati at gironet.nl>
Subject: transcription

I think you got the wrong transcription for ':' This should be a 'ayn
(transcribed as epsilon sometimes) and not a ghayn (transcribed as a
gamma). I think the root of the verb in question is 'awan "help, aid'
and the derived form means then 'get the help of' or 'ask for the help
of'
sincerely,
Abderrahman El Aissati
Tilburg University

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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: may2 at cornell.edu
Subject: root /<wn/

nasta<iin is a Form X verb based on  the root /<wn/. It is in the
imperfect tense; its perfect is ista<aan.  It should be easy to look it
up in Wehr's dictionary.

Munther Younes

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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: Haidar Moukdad <moukdad at GSLIS.Lan.McGill.CA>
Subject: ('ayn waaw nuun)


 < nasta:iinu

     This word is from the tenth form of 'aana; the root is 'wn
('ayn waaw nuun).




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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: "Dr Salah D. Hammoud, 333-4580" <HammoudSD.DFF.USAFA at usafa.af.mil>
Subject: not ghayn as initial cosonnant

The root for nasta:iinu is :awana with 'ayn not ghayn as initial cosonnant
(to help, support, assist). See p. 659 in the Wehr-Cowan 1976 edition.

Salah
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan  7 18:50:21 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:50:21 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Query
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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: G.Borg at let.kun.nl
Subject: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Query

Dear colleagues,

My question has to do with sources: In the Mu`jam al-Nisaa' al-Shaa`iraat
(sic) fii '-Jaahiliyya wa'l-Islaam, edited I think in 1996 in Beirout by
Abd Allah `Ali Muhannaa (never mind the transcriptions) the editor mentions
a source called: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab. I am completely at a loss as to what
the editor means by this source. It is definitely not the Riyaad al-Adab
fii Maraathii Shawaa`ir al-`Arab by Cheikho. Does anyone have a suggestion?
Many thanks in advance!

Best wishes,

Gert Borg

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:49:12 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:49:12 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: "Ihya al uloom" in Arabic
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: Ahmed Z <mustang6 at rocketmail.com>
Subject: "Ihya al uloom" in Arabic

Merhaba!

I am a graduate student in history in Portland, Oregon.
I am looking for a copy of Ghazzali's Ihya al uloom
in the original Arabic. If anybody knows where I can
beg, buy or borrow it from I'd love to hear of it.

If it has a side by side English translation, that
would be wonderful. But if it's only in Arabic that
would serve the purpose just as well.

Shukran

Farzan Zaheed.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:48:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:48:17 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Root of 'nasta:iinu'
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: YemenLC at aol.com
Subject: Root of 'nasta:iinu'

nasta:iinu is form X of the word AWN (ayn waw noon)

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:47:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:47:17 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: A & E sentences for banners
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: Saifullah Kamalie <saif at centrin.net.id>
Subject: Arabic and English sentences for banners

Dear colleages,

I work in a boarding school with about 2000 students. Some of them asked me
to write for them some sentences in Arabic and English they to write them
on banners. The sentences are for promoting the importance of mastering
both langauges, such as "Open the door of your future by English and
Arabic". But, as I am not native speaker for those languages, I couldn't
say that sentence was acceptable. I hope anybody in this forum can give me
the simple and attractive sentences in English and Arabic. thank you in
advance for the assistance.

Saifullah Kamalie

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:46:15 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:46:15 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Arabic plural morphology query
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: "R. Hoberman" <rdhoberman at ccmail.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Arabic plural morphology query

Does anyone know of any discussions of Arabic plural formation with
respect to the concepts of inflectional versus derivational morphology?
My idea is that although plural formation in most languages is a classic
example of inflectional morphology, in Arabic it's much more like
derivational: the form is rather unpredictable, many nouns have more than
one plural form, and these may have different meanings (all these
properties, of course, within limits).  Has this been said before?

Bob Hoberman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:45:09 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:45:09 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Response
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: "Roberta L. Dougherty" <rld at pobox.upenn.edu>
Subject: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Response

Dear Gert,

I don't know what your author may have intended, but a quick search in
the RLIN database produced four different editions, all with this title:

Ghurayyib, Jurj.
Shairat al-Arab fi al-jahiliyah \ Jurj Ghurayyib. -- al-Tabah
1. -- Bayrut : Dar al-Thaqafah, 1984.
280 p. ; 19 cm. --
(Silsilat al-mawsu fi al-adab al-Arabi ; 39)

Saqr, Abd al-Badi.
Shairat al-Arab / jam wa-tahqiq Abd al-Badi Saqr. --
al-Tabah 1. -- [Damascus] : al-Maktab al-Islami, 1967.

Wannus, Ibrahim.
Shairat al-Arab : dirasah tarikhiyah adabiyah / Ibrahim Wannus. --
al-Tabah 1. -- Antilyas : Manshurat Miryam, 1992.

Yamut, Bashir.
Shairat al-Arab fi al-Jahiliyah wa-al-Islam / Bashir Yamut. --
al-Tabah 1. -- Bayrut : Maktabah al-Ahliyah, 1934.

Given the title of your source, I suppose he might have meant either the
Yamut title or the one by Ghurayyib.

--
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:44:00 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:44:00 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Transcribing ayn
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: "R. Hoberman" <rdhoberman at ccmail.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Transcribing ayn

Isn't it just wild how many different ways people transcribe ayn?!  In the
last day's postings there were ' : @ 3 and <, to which add the fairly
widely used 9 and `, plus my own favorite &.  In everyday usage there is
also simply a, especially after the vowel a, as in Saad, Baath, Baalbek.

Just an observation -- no call for standardization!

Bob Hoberman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:42:50 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:42:50 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Long vowels response
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: "R. Hoberman" <rdhoberman at ccmail.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Long vowels response

In all the examples of words with three long vowels posted so far, one of
the vowels has been in an inflectional suffix (-aat, -aani, -uuna). Trying
to think of any with three long vowels in the stem I come up with
&aashuuraa' (&=&ayn), though here too the -aa' is a suffix, but a
derivational one I suppose.  The interesting thing is that this word
apparently has a variant with a short first vowel:  &ashuuraa', suggesting
that words with three long vowels might be somehow anomalous, not just
rare. Are there other nouns on this wazn?

Bob Hoberman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 17:27:25 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:27:25 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Response
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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: MOHAMMED M JIYAD <mmjiyad at unix.amherst.edu>
Subject: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Response

MarHaban,

In LaTaa'if Al-Nisaa', author Ridha Deeb has a chapter on ShaaCiraat
Majhuulaat, "unknown poetesses." You might find some interesting
information since the sources the author quoted include Al-'Ibshiihy,
Al-MasCuudy, Al-ASfahaany, Al-Tijaany, Ibn Qiyam, Al-Washaa',
Al-'AsuuTy... etc.

M. Jiyad

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 17:23:13 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:23:13 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Root of 'nasta:iinu'
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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: Abdel-Rahman Amer <ABDOU at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Root of 'nasta:iinu'

Salam.
This is nothing professional, only a little trick to make your job
easier. So long as the verb is six letters long "esta3ana" then it has to
be on the "estaf3ala" wazn, meaning that the last three characters are
the root. Since the intermediate alef has to have a "waw" or "yaa2"
origin this leaves you with either "3 w n" or "3 y n".  Look them both up!
although with little practice you can tell which is the right one
immediately.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 17:22:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:22:17 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Long vowels responses
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1) Subject: loan words
2) Subject: number of vowels in words
3) Subject: Long vowels discussion

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: "Buckwalter, Tim" <TimB at alpinemedia.COM>
Subject: loan words

Although the root morpheme ('ayn-shiin-raa') is undisputed, the pattern
morpheme _aa_uu_aa' is not found in any other Arabic word that I know
of. Wehr does list the word zaajuuraa, but this is an obvious loan word.
My search for words with CvvCvvCvv yielded only additional loan words
(e.g. brwfyswr, fwnwgrAf, hwlywwd, etc.).

Tim Buckwalter

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2)
Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: Kahlaoui Noureddine <kahlaoun at ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: number of vowels in words

One may be inclined to think that there's no constraint on the number
of phonemic long vowels in a word of Arabic though the phonology of the
language doesn't seem to allow more than two in a single word.
One can imagine words such as the following:
maawaraa?ii	------> maawaraa?iyyaat
and if the need arises for the opposite of that concept, it would give
rise to even this:
laamaawaraa?iyyaat
The morphological structure of Arabic seems to allow these derivations,
just as it adopted 'metaphysiacal' as:
miitaafiiziiqii.
Now on a phonological level different degrees of reduction of the long
vowels will happen in the same word. One can expect those reductions in
standard Arabic to be influenced by the phonology of the local
dialect/language.

Noureddine kahlaoui

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: AHMED KHORSHID <KHORSHID at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Long vowels discussion

When I first read this subject I assumed that the three long vowels
should be medial. So, I thought of qaamuusaan, etc. Now, other responses
include final long vowels like -haa, which gives us four long vowels,e.g.
qaamuusaahaa, etc.

Ahmad Khorshid
AUC

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 17:11:52 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:11:52 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Transcribing ayn
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1) Subject: 7 also used
2) Subject: list standardization

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: John Leake <jleake at shikar.demon.co.uk>
Subject: 7 also used

I've also seen 7 used 'ain in on-line chat groups in Abu Dhabi.

John Leake

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: Hassan Gadalla <hgadalla at aun.eun.eg>
Subject: list standardization

R. Hoberman wisely and justly asks "Isn't it just wild how many
different ways people transcribe ayn?!" I should answer: Yes, it is wild
and confusing as well. Therefore, I suggest that at least we, readers of
Arabic-L, agree on using one symbol for 9ayn, for example the "fairly
widely used" one, the number 9.

Hassan Gadalla

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 17:25:53 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:25:53 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Arabic Notary?!
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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: Sumair <sumair at iname.com>
Subject: Arabic Notary?!

a friend of mine has a birth certificate in arabic, which he would like
to get translated into arabic AND NOTARIZED.  anyone know where
/ how to accomplish this?!  there must be services which translate
and notarize official documents...

forgive me if this message isn't best suited for the list server, but i
didn't know where else to turn to...


sumair

http://members.xoom.com/Sumair/page35.html

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 17:08:10 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:08:10 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Arabic plural morphology response
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1) Subject: Paper
2) Subject: Sources

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: "Robert R. Ratcliffe" <ratcliff at fs.tufs.ac.jp>
Subject: Paper

I wrote a paper on just this topic a long time ago when I was still a
graduate student: Ratcliffe, R. 1990. "Arabic Broken Plurals: Arguments
for a Two-fold Classification of Morphology" Perspectives on Arabic
Linguistics II.ed. Mushira Eid and John McCarthy, 94-119. John
Benjamins.

Later when I was researching my dissertation (The Broken Plural Problem
In Arabic, Semitic and Afroasiatic, Yale 1992)  I remember noting that
someone surprisingly early in the literature had made the comment that
the broken plural was a derivational and not an inflectional category.
I just made a cursory search for the reference but now I can't find it.

The conclusion I draw from points like those you mention is that
inflection and derivation are accidental (as opposed to universal)
categories.  It happens that in some (European) languages, formal,
semantic, syntactic, and other properties of morphemes or morphological
processes tend to converge in a certain way, but in other languages the
convergence doesn't occur in the same way. This is one of the issues
that has caused me to lose faith in the generative approach.
Generativists take a handful of received ideas about language drawn from
traditional grammar, classical logic, Saussure, etc. and elevate them to
the status of universals.  Then rather than revise the revise the
proposed universals when the data doesn't fit they try to explain away
the problematic data using underlying processes, abstract forms, etc.. I
think a typological and statistical approach to an issue like this would
be more likely to be fruitful: Which properties always converge, which
properties frequently, which rarely, and why.

By the way I have a book on the broken plural just coming out from
Benjamins. (It's been announced, though I haven't seen it yet): The
‘Broken’ Plural Problem in Arabic and Comparative Semitic: Allomorphy
and Analogy in Non-Concatenative Morphology.

Best Wishes,

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Robert R. Ratcliffe
Senior Lecturer, Arabic and Linguistics,
Dept. of Linguistics and Information Science
Tokyo University of Foreign Studies
Nishigahara 4-51-21, Kita-ku
Tokyo 114 Japan

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: George Kiraz <gkiraz at research.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Sources


I don't know if these works answer your specific questions, but they are on
broken plural "derivation":

M. Hammond, "Templatic Transfer in Arabic Broken Plurals", _Natural Language
and Linguistic Theory_ 6: 247-270, 1988.

J. McCarthy and A. Prince, "Foot and word in prosodic morphology: the Arabic
broken plural". _Natural Language and Linguistic Theory_ 8: 209-283, 1990.

R. Ratcliffe, "Arabic Broken Plurals: Arguments for a two-fold
classification of morphology".  In M. Eid and J. McCarthy (eds.),
_Perspectives on Arabic Linguistics II_ (Amsterdam: John Benjamins, 1990).

Additionally (if that is of any interest), I have worked on computational
approaches to the broken plural:

G. Kiraz, _Computational Nonlinear Morphology: With Emphasis on Semitic
Languages_. (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, forthcoming [hopefully
1999!]).

George Kiraz

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 22:10:15 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:10:15 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Arabic Notary Response
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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: Jackie Murgida <jmurg at star.net>
Subject: Arabic Notary

Many translators are either notaries themselves or they routinely have their
own translation notarized by someone else as part of their services. Your
friend just has to find a reputable translator. If this is in the U.S.,
there are several regional translator organizations, the American
Translators Association, and the Translators Guild, to name a few resources.
Most, if not all, have websites with a roster of members, directory of
services, etc. If the friend needs help with this, let me know the region or
nearest big city, and I can get some more information.

Jackie

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jan 12 21:01:08 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:01:08 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Word for storyteller
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Date: 12 Jan 1999
From: AATA <aata at byu.edu>
Subject: Shaharaza??

Hello!
I hope you can be of some help. I'm trying to find the arabic word for
"storyteller." A friend of mine said it was either "shaharaza" or
"sharharaza."
Do you know? Apparently it was  used in 1001 Arabian nights which was the
birth
place of many classics such as Aladdin.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Susan Viess


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jan 12 20:57:52 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:57:52 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Arabic Notary Correction
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1)
Date: 12 Jan 1999
From: Jackie Murgida <jmurg at star.net>
Subject: Arabic Notary Correction

I should correct something I said about notarization. The translator has a
statement that the translation is true and accurate and so on, and *that
statement* is what is notarized, not the translation itself.
Jackie

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jan 12 20:58:50 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:58:50 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Literature donations
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1)
Date: 12 Jan 1999
From: AATA <aata at byu.edu>
Subject: Literature donations

(The American Association of Teachers of Arabic received the following
letter. We are posting it so that you may respond if you have helpful
resources.  Thank you, Rachel Unity.)

To whom it may concern:

I am the Senior chaplain of a major correctional institution in Northeast
Florida.  As such I am charged  with the responsibility of providing for
the religious needs of those incarcerated here.

Providing for their religious need is challenging since I have no funds to
purchase literature.  We are therefore dependent on organizations such as
yours for literature donations.  Should you be able to assist us with the
material please know that it will be received with thankfulness and
promptly acknowledged.

Sincerely,
Wayne Priest, Senior Chaplain
POB 333
Raiford, Florida 32083-0333

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 13 17:30:55 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:30:55 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Question on Maimonides
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Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: djust at netvision.net.il
Subject: Question on Maimonides


The Mishnah in Sabbath (5, 4) says: One isn't allowed to put
seasonings into a cooking pot or cooking bowl which one has
removed from the fire, but one can put them into the serving bowl
(q at rh) or into the serving dish.
On this Maimonides writes:
fHrm 'n trmy 'l't'bl fy 'w'ny 'lTbk why fy jly'nh l'nh Tbk 'm' 'n Sb fy
'lq at rh w at ly 'nh jly'n yrmy fyh l'n 'lT@'m hn'k 'ql Hr'rh wlys yTbk
ma rmy fyh.
('=alif)
Which I understand to mean:
And it is forbidden to put seasonings into the food being cooked
while it is boiling(?) because this is cooking, but if he puts it (the
food) into the serving-bowl even when the food is boiling(?) he
can put the seasoning into the food, since the heat of the food is
decreased there (by the cool material of the serving-bowl), and
thus what he puts into the food isn't cooked.
If so, 'ql Hr'rh would seem to be a passive, uqilla Hr'rh, I guess.
Any opinions on 'ql and the meaning of the passage?  This
interpretation seems to make more sense in both syntax and
physics than anything else I can think of.  Any other ideas?

Thanks,
David.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 13 19:43:25 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:43:25 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Storyteller discussion
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1) Subject: Hakawatis
2) Subject: Shahrazad
3) Subject: Qaass, Hakawati
4) Subject: Al-Raawy, Al-Haaky
5) Subject: stories

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1)
Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject: Hakawatis

In the old days, they used to gather around the "7akawati / Hakawati"
who told stories. "Hakawatis" kept folk tales alive, and they are known
for their style and animation.

I remember one from childhood who would whip his "Khayzarani"
(a bamboo stick that goes with the Beiruti folkloric "U'mbaz" dress)
on the table in participation, while we are all ears with jaws dropped...
Hakawatis are good at what they do, and they sure know the Arabic
language well.

George N. Hallak
http://aramedia.com

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2)
Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: Ahmed Z <mustang6 at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Shahrazad

Hi Susan,

Shahrazad is the name of the  heroine of "The
Thousand and One Nights". She is the narrator or the
story and Shahrazad is her personal name. It's a
Persian name still used for girls in parts of South
Asia. It does not mean storyteller. I am not sure of
it's meaning in Persian (not knowing Persian very
well), but I am fairly certain that it does not mean
storyteller.

There is an Arabic word for "storyteller" used in
many parts of the Arab world and that is
"Hakawaatee". It is the term used for a very popular
character that used to be common in the Arab world,
who used to spend his time relating stories in
Coffee-shops, for the entertainment of the people
sitting, drinking coffee. The word "Hakawaatee" comes
from the Arabic work "Hikaya" which means a story.

Hope this helps

Regards

Farzan.

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3)
Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: yaser at ISI.EDU
Subject: Qaass, Hakawati

Hello Susan,

I have to warn you that my reply is totally based on my memories of 1001
nights and I have no scientific evidences in proving that the following
legend is true!  

The story teller in 1001 nights is "shahrazad" and the name of the king is
"shahrayar".  The latter is a masculine name and the first is a feminine
name. As far as I remember the story goes like that there was a king (named
shahrayar) who kills his female companion after spending the night with
them. And it was shahrazad's turn and since she knew the king's intentions,
she came up with an idea of telling the king an interesting story every
night and before sunrise she stops at the most interesting part of the
story so that the king will not kill her and instead he will be anxiously
waiting for the following night to come to hear the rest of the story.

As for the arabic equivalent of the english word "storyteller",  here are
some possible words: "Qaass" , "Hakawati".

  Hope that helps,
Yaser
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Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: MOHAMMED M JIYAD <mmjiyad at unix.amherst.edu>
Subject: Al-Raawy, Al-Haaky

Hi,
Al-Raawy, Al-Haaky are the words that come to my mind. In some Arabic
dialects, the word that is used is Al-Hakawaaty.
Mohammed Jiyad

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5)
Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: Lamia Belguith <Belguith.Lamia at planet.tn>
Subject: stories

I think the arabic word you are looking for is : "shahrazad"
it is the name of the women who (in stories)
tell her husband "shahrayar" a story each night.


Best regards,
Lamia Belguith

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 13 20:01:32 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:01:32 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: ALS meeting at Stanford
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Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: Abbas Benmamoun <e-benma at staff.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Hotel Information

Here is some hotel information for those planning to attend the upcoming
ALS meeting (March 5-6) at Stanford and would like to plan early.
 
The Stanford Terrace Inn, 531 Stanford Avenue, Palo Alto, offers symposium
participants reduced rates: $115 single, $125 double (with 2 people
sharing a  room and splitting the cost). Reservations may be made by
contacting the
hotel  directly at (650) 857-0333, fax (650) 857-0343 or toll-free at (800)
729-0332. Mention group code 23272. The group rate will be honored if
reservations
are  made before Feb. 5, 1999. 
 
The Creekside Inn, 3400 El Camino Real, Palo
Alto, is also offering a special rate of $125 single, $135 double for symposium
participants. Reservations may be made by calling (650) 493-2411 or
toll-free at (800) 492-7335. Mention group number BV0000. These rates apply
until Feb.
12,  1999.
 
At both hotels, mention the Arabic Linguistics Society to obtain
conference rates. Both hotels offer shuttle service to campus.

>>From San Francisco airport, participants can take the Super Shuttle (it is
the  most reliable of the limo services around here). >From San Jose airport,
there  are plenty of other shuttles and limo services that cost around the same
as  Super Shuttle ($20 or less). Although Super Shuttle goes to San Jose
airport, it does not offer services FROM the airport.


Abbas

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 13 19:48:37 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:48:37 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Maimonides response
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Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: Michael Fishbein <FISHBEIN at HUMnet.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Maimonides response

The solution is easier and involves no implications about thermophysics!
One should read, "li'anna al-Ta at aama hunaaka aqallu Haraaratan, wa laysa
yaTbakhu ma ramaa (or rumiya) fiihi" -- i.e., "because the food there is
less hot (lit. less in respect to heat, a tamyiiz construction) and does
not cook what he has put (or what has been put) into it."

I would render the entire passage as follows, "So it has been forbidden
to put seasonings into cooking vessels while [the food] is cooking,
because that is cooking [which is forbidden on the sabbath], but if one
puts [the seasonings] into the serving dish, even if [the food] is
boiling, one may put [the seasoning] into it [viz. the food], because
the food there [in the serving dish] is less hot and does not cook what
has been put into it."

Or perhaps the implied subject of yaTbakhu is the person, in which case
one might render, and he [the person who puts the seasonings into the
serving dish] is not cooking what he has put into it [viz. the dish].

I hope this helps.
********************
Michael Fishbein
Dept. of Near Eastern Languages & Cultures
University of California, Los Angeles
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1511

(310) 206-2229 (office, 389A Kinsey Hall))
(310) 206-6456 (fax)
fishbein at humnet.ucla.edu
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 14 18:24:40 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:24:40 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Maimonides discussion
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Date: 14 Jan 1999
From: djust at netvision.net.il
Subject: Another Maimonides query

> The solution is easier and involves no implications about thermophysics!
I'm afraid that I don't understand how the physics is different.
Doesn't your translation mean that the food was cooled either by
the second vessel, or by the act of transferring from one vessel
to another, with the implication that if the food is somehow still hot
enough putting the seasonings in will be forbidden?
Was the original translation incorrect, or only less likely?  The
only obvious way I can see to distinguish, unless the first attempt
is very unnatural, is that there heat is Haraar, m., while in your
translation the original noun is Haraarah, f.  Does Haraar, m.,
even exist?
Thanks again.
D.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan 15 21:18:31 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:18:31 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Filial Afterthoughts for Comparison
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Date: 15 Jan 1999
From: Muhammad Deeb <mdeeb at gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Filial Afterthoughts for Comparison

Filial Afterthoughts for Comparison


	(1) Ancient Greek:

		I lie at sixty here in peace,
		Dionysious of Taurus was my name,
		I married not, not children got;
		I wish my father did the same.

				Anonymous [BCE]



	(2) Classical Arabic:


		This wrong was by father done
		to me, but ne'er by me to one.

		[Haadhaa janaahu abii @alayya
		wa maa janaytu @ala aHad.]

				Abu 'l- at Alaa' 'l-Ma at arri (973 - 1057),
				an eminent medieval classical
				poet-philosopher.



	(3) Contemporary Arabic:


		Between Abu 'l- at Alaa' and me,
		there is a conflict on paternal devotion,
		to which I call the attention of all the wise:

		He sees his father's blessing a crime;
		I see my father's crime a blessing.


		[Bayni wa bayna Abi 'l- at Alaa'i qaDiyyatun
		fi 'l-birri astar at ii lahaa 'l-Hukamaa'a:
		huwa qad ra'aa nu at maa abiihi jinaayatan,
		wa ara 'l-jinaayata min abii na at maa'a.]


				Hafiz Ibrahim (1871 - 1932)

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 20 16:53:20 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:53:20 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Thesaurus of Islamic Epigraphy
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Date: 20 Jan 1999
From: Fred <fredlag at worldnet.fr>
Subject: Thesaurus of Islamic Epigraphy

Thesaurus d'Epigraphie Islamique
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 20 16:55:29 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:55:29 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: summer/intensive Arabic programs
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1) Subject: summer/intensive Arabic programs

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1)
Date: 20 Jan 1999
From: AATA <aata at byu.edu>
Subject: summer/intensive Arabic programs

If you would like to advertize your summer or intensive Arabic Program in
the AATA newsletter, please send announcements as soon as possible to
<aata at byu.edu>.

Thanks,

Kirk Belnap
Executive Director,
American Association of Teachers of Arabic

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:59:48 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: job notice
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1) Subject: job notice

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Date: 20 Jan 1999
From: "Dr. A. Godlas" <godlas at arches.uga.edu>
Subject: job notice

The Department of Religion of the University of Georgia
invites applications for a tenure-track teaching and
research position in Arabic and Islamic Studies at the level
of Assistant Professor to begin August, 1999.  The candidate
will be expected to teach Modern Standard Arabic, Islamic
Studies,  Introductory Religion classes, and to work with
the university's Arabic and Islamic Studies Summer abroad
program.  The salary will be competitive.

Ideally, candidates should have near native fluency in
Modern Standard Arabic, one modern dialect of Arabic, and
classical Arabic, excellent command of one other Muslim
language,  as well as native speaking fluency in English.
The ideal candidate will also have experience  teaching
Arabic.   Experience as an on-site administrator  in an
Arabic study abroad program and contacts with Arabic
speaking universities abroad are also desirable.

The ideal candidate will have experience in teaching an
introductory class in Religion  (covering  Judaism,
Chrisitianity, and Islam) and should be able to teach
undergraduate and graduate levels of Islamic Studies.  She
or he will also have first-hand knowledge of at least one
Arab and one non-Arab contemporary Muslim culture.  She or
he should have strong expertise in Arabic Islamic texts
dealing with the Qur'anic sciences, as well as 'ilm
al-hadith, fiqh, and tasawwuf.  Research interests among
these and other standard genres of Islamic literature are
desired.  Candidates not having all of the preceding
qualifications may still be considered and are encouraged to
apply.

Ph.D.  or  ABD (candidate for the Ph.D.) in Arabic and/or
Islamic Studies required at the time of application.  If
ABD, requirements for the degree should be completed by
August, 1999.  Applicants should submit a CV, statement of
research interests, three letters of reference, and one
publication (if available).  No decision will be made before
March 22, although applications received after this time may
be considered until the position is filled.

Send materials to Dr. Alan Godlas, Chair: Search Committee,
Department of Religion, Peabody Hall, University of Georgia,
Athens, GA (USA), 30602-1625.  For information about the
Department of Religion and its programs see
http://www.uga.edu/religion.  The University of Georgia is
an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Institution. Women
and minorities are encouraged to apply.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 20 16:56:57 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:56:57 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Symposium announcement
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1) Subject: Symposium announcement

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Date: 20 Jan 1999
From: Abbas Benmamoun <e-benma at staff.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Symposium announcement
 
The Arabic Linguistics Society together with  Stanford University

announce
 
The Thirteenth Annual Symposium on  Arabic Linguistics
 
In Honor of Charles Ferguson
 

March 5-6, 1999. Stanford University

Building 300, Room 300

Friday, March 5
Morning Session

8:30 - 8:45 Registration

8:45 - 9:00 Welcoming Remarks

9:00 - 9:30 Syllables and moras in Arabic
    Paul Kiparsky, Stanford University

9:30 -10:00 Root consonants, gutturals, and hypocoristic patterns in
    Colloquial Arabic
    Stuart Davis and Bushra Adnan Zawaydeh, Indiana University

10:00-10:30 Acoustic evidence for empty nuclei in Arabic speech and
    some  implications for automatic speech recognition
    Fatmah Baothman and Ali Idrissi, King Abdulaziz University, and
    Michael  Ingleby, University of Huddersfield

10:30-11:15 Break

11:00-11:30 Discovering arabic rhythm through a speech cycling task
    Bushra Adnan Zawaydeh, Keiichi Tajima, and Mafuyu Kitahara,
    Indiana University

11:30-12:00 Phonological processes and process repair in modern
    Standard Arabic
    Michael Ingleby, University of Huddersfield, and Fatmah Baothman
    and Ali Idrissi, King Abdulaziz University

Afternoon Session

2:00 - 2:30 Assimilation and allophony within the uvular series
    David Testen, Chicago Assyrian Dictionary

2:30 - 3:00 Greek evidence about 10th- and 11th-century Sicilian
    Arabic Maria Mavroudi, University of California, Berkeley

3:00 - 3:30 Acquisition of movement in english by Arabic-speaking
    children
    Naomi Bolotin, University of Kansas

3:30 - 4:00 Break

4:00 - 4:30 Politeness formulas revisited
    Russell Arent, St. Cloud State University

4:30 - 5:00 A corpus-based study of collocation in american english
    and  modern standard arabic
    Dalal M. El Gemei, Al-Azhar University

5:15-6:15 Tribute to Charles Ferguson

6:30-7:00 reception

Saturday, March 6
Morning Session

9:00 - 9:30 applying myers-scotton's mlf model to diglossic switching
    Keith Walters and Naoma Boussofara-Omar, University of Texas at
    Austin

9:30 -10:00 written arabic of personal letters
    Jamil Daher, New York University

10:00-10:30 colloquialization and standardization in Andalusian and
    Maghrebian musical genres
    Taoufik Ben Amor, Columbia University

10:30-11:00 Break

11:00-12:00 Keynote Address
    Forms of reported speech in Arabic
    Madiha Doss, Cairo University

Afternoon Session

2:00 - 2:30 Remarks on the grammar of Arabic newspaper headlines
    M. A. Mohammad, University of Florida

2:30 - 3:00 Reduced agreement as a specificity effect in rural
    Palestinian Arabic
    Frederick M. Hoyt, Cornell University

3:00 - 3:30 Recoverability, ambiguity and overt pronouns in Egyptian
    Arabic Martha Schulte-Nafez, University of Texas at El Paso

3:30 - 4:00 Break

4:00-4:30 Reciprocals and Plurals in Arabic
    Elabbas Benmamoun, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

4:30-5:00 The mental representation of Arabic words
    Jean-Francois Prunet, Universite du Quebec a  Montreal, Renee Beland,
    Universit de Montreal, and Ali Idrissi, King Abdulaziz University


Alternates
An interdisciplinary approach to literary discourse analysis with
special reference to naguib mahfouzs construction of gender
Kamel A. Elsaadany, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Comparative and acquisition syntax of moroccan sign language and
signed Arabic
Mostafa Rechad, University of Paris


Registration Form

Name

Address

City/State Zip Country

Affiliation email address

Amount enclosed:

Preregistration (deadline: Feb. 16, 1999) $25. At the Door $30
Faculty & Students, Stanford University: Free

ALS 1999 Membership Dues:
Students $15, Faculty $25
 
Checks, drawn on US banks, or international money orders should be made
payable to the Arabic Linguistics Society and sent with registration forms to:
Tessa  Hauglid, 759 West 1800 North, West Bountiful, UT 84087, USA (email:
<mailto:tessa.hauglid at m.cc.utah.edu>tessa.hauglid at m.cc.utah.edu).

The symposium will be held at Stanford University, Stanford, California.
The Stanford Terrace Inn, 531 Stanford Avenue, Palo Alto, offers symposium
participants reduced rates: $115 single, $125 double (with 2 people
sharing a room and splitting the cost). Reservations may be made by
contacting the
hotel  directly at (650) 857-0333, or toll-free at (800) 729-0332, fax (650)
857-0343.  Mention group code 23272. The group rate will be honored if
reservations
are made before Feb. 5, 1999. 
 
The Creekside Inn, 3400 El Camino Real, Palo Alto, is also offering a
special rate of $125 single, $135 double for symposium
participants. Reservations may be made by calling (650) 493-2411 or
toll-free at (800) 492-7335. Mention group number BV0000. These rates apply
until Feb. 12, 1999.
 
At both hotels, mention the Arabic Linguistics Society to obtain 
conference rates. Both hotels offer shuttle service to campus.
Participants can take the Super Shuttle from the San Francisco Airport for 
around $20 to either hotel. Similar services are offered from the San Jose 
Airport.

Annual Symposium on Arabic Linguistics. An open forum for scholars
interested in the application of current
linguistic theories and analyses to Arabic

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan 22 16:54:48 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:54:48 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Adjectives modifying construct phrases
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1) Subject: Adjectives modifying construct phrases

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Date: 22 Jan 1999
From: Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject: Adjectives modifying construct phrases

Hi,

   If there are no objections I would like to do a poll of
"grammaticality" judgments. Please send all responses to me at
"andyf at umich.edu".  Also, if you could please include your native dialect
and what your linguistics training has been I would very much appreciate
it.

  Consider if you will the following construct phrase bening modified by
two adjectives:

   NOUN       NOUN      NOUN        NOUN         ADJ         ADJ
 farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati T-Tawiilati
  (the)brakes(f.nom) (the)car(f.gen.) (the)director(f.gen.)
the-company(f.gen) the-intelligent(f.gen) the-tall/long(f.gen)

  I can wring out at least two workable meanings:

  The brakes of the car of the tall intelligent director of the company
  The brakes of the long car of the intelligent director of the company
 * the brakes of the long intelligent car of the director of the company

 I have four questions.

  1) Does the current word order "work" for you.  If not what would you
     do to "fix it up?"

  2) If you were to insert the adjective "xarbaana", or "mu9aTTala",
     referring to the car's brakes, where in the above Arabic string would
     you put it?

     a. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati l-xarbaanati
        dh-dhakiyyati T-Tawiilati
     b. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati
        l-xarbaanati T-Tawiilati
     c. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati
        T-Tawiilati l-xarbaanati

  3) What is the likelihood of you ever uttering such a phrase
      where 0 = never and 10 = most comfortable way of expressing the idea
     "the broken brakes of the intelligent company director's long car"?

  4) What is the most comfortable way of expressing this meaning in your
     home dialect of Arabic?


  As soon as I compile any results I will, of course, post them back to
this list.

'alf shukr musbaqan

Andrew T. Freeman
Ph.D. student, Arabic Linguistics
The University of Michigan,
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

andyf at umich.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan 22 16:53:02 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:53:02 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: gestures CD rom
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1) Subject: gestures CD rom

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Date: 22 Jan 1999
From: Louis Boumans <louis.boumans at gironet.nl>
Subject: gestures CD rom

Dear collegues,

I remember that a couple of years ago someone posted a message about the
release of a CD ROM containing Egyptian gestures taken from TV series.
I've lost the note. Can anyone remind me of the reference?
Also any other reference on gestures in the middle eastern/north african
context is welcome.

Also, can anyone remind me of how to access the Arabic-L bibliography?

Thank you in advance, Louis

--
Louis Boumans
St. Janshovenstraat 20, 3572 RC Utrecht
tel/fax +31-30-271 33 85 Louis.Boumans at gironet.nl

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan 22 16:53:57 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:53:57 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Spanish Poetry Questions.
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1) Subject: Spanish Poetry Questions.

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1)
Date: 22 Jan 1999
From: djust at netvision.net.il
Subject: Spanish Poetry Questions.

1.  The Jewish poets of Medieval Spain frequently make a big
point in their poetry about wine-drinking, often in gardens.
Though some of them lived also in Christian Spain, most of them
belonged more to an Arabic/Islamic background.  Where would
they have found the prototypes for such poems, or such
behavior?
2.  R. Yehuda HaLevi starts out a poem (apparently addressing
the soul):
You who sleeps in the bosom of childhood, until when will you lie?
Know that youth is shaken off like sawdust!
Until when are the days of black hair?...
Vaguely reminiscent of the ubi sunt poems later popular farther
north.  Where would he have found a prototype in 10th-11th c.
Spain?

Thank you.
David Jonathan Justman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan 22 16:55:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:55:17 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: Summer Programmes in Arabic
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1) Subject: Summer Programmes in Arabic

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1)
Date: 22 Jan 1999
From: John Leake <jleake at shikar.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Summer Programmes in Arabic

Do any list members know of intensive Summer programmes in Arabic run in
the UK or overseas by UK universities?

Thanks

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 25 19:27:58 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:27:58 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Gestures CD response
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1) Subject: Gestures CD response

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Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Michael Fishbein <FISHBEIN at HUMnet.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Gestures CD response

The CD is entitled "Egyptian Arabic Gestures I & II." It was compiled by
Carolyn Killean and published by the Language Faculty Resource Center of
the University of Chicago. I ordered a copy several years ago from Peter
Patrikis, Executive Director, Consortium for Language Teaching and
Learning, 111 Grove Street, P.O. Box 208295, New Haven, CT 06520-8295
(telephone 203 432-0590, fax 203 432-0584, and e-mail:
peter_patrikis at QM.yale.edu.
********************
Michael Fishbein
Dept. of Near Eastern Languages & Cultures
University of California, Los Angeles
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1511

(310) 206-2229 (office, 389A Kinsey Hall))
(310) 206-6456 (fax)
fishbein at humnet.ucla.edu
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 25 19:39:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:39:17 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Spanish Poetry responses
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1) Subject: Sufi Poetry
2) Subject: Pre-Islamic influence
3) Subject: Hebrew Poems

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1)
Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Wail Hassan <w-hassan at wiu.edu>
Subject:

There is a substantial tradition of Sufi poetry in which there is frequent
use of wine as a motif, and where I believe the childhood metaphor in you
second question would be among a set of tropes describing the soul's
awakening to God. That poetry is mainly in Persian, and its best known
writers are Rumi (13th cen.) and Hafiz (14th cen.). My guess is that
Andalusian poets and mystics, whether Moslem or Jewish, would be familiar
with that tradition.

Waïl Hassan
Assistant Professor
Department of English and Journalism
Western Illinois University
Macomb, IL 61455

(H) 309-833-3083
(W) 309-298-1112
Fax 309-298-2974

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Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Khalid AbdulSamad Draper <mujahid at gte.net>
Subject: Pre-Islamic influence

In the pre-Islamic period, the Arabs were known for their love of poetry.
In the early days of the US, they used to have soap box preachers who would
climb atop a soap box and deliver a sermon.  Much in the same manner, poets
fi 'Asri Jahiliyyah would go to places where wealthy merchants would be, and
compose poetry about them on the spot.  Much of this poetry would reference
how great the wealthy person's parties would be, and would therefore contain
much allusions to drinking and etc.

Even in the Islamic period, you will find particularlly among the ahl
tasawwuf (Rumi for one) analogous references made between the stupor one
experiences from being engulfed in the Divine Light, and the stupor that
comes from being completely drunk - the latter being a stupor of
purification of the soul of course, as opposed to the toxins of the
intoxicant.


Khalid

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3)
Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: William Granara <granara at fas.harvard.edu>
Subject: Hebrew Poems

A good place to start is: Raymond Scheindlin, "Wine, Women and Death:
Medievel Hebrew Poems on the Good Life". Phila: The Jewish Publication
Society, 1986.
W. Granara

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 25 19:41:35 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:41:35 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Another Attack on academic freedom
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1) Subject: Another Attack on academic freedom

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1)
Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Taoufik Ben-Amor <tb46 at columbia.edu>
Subject: Another Attack on academic freedom

Dear Colleagues,

Recently, Samia Mehrez, Professor of Modern Arabic Literature at the
American University in Cairo came under attack for assigning to her class
the fictional autobiography of the Moroccan writer Muhammad Choukri,
AL-KUBZ AL-HAFI. This work is probably known to many of you as an important
and powerful text that has been translated into many languages (into
English by Paul Bowles under the title FOR BREAD ALONE). Several students
presumably complained to their parents about the "pornographic" content of
the novel. The parents brought the matter to the attention of a family
friend, who is the university  physician and who, in turn, brought it to
the attention of the President of AUC, presumably to hush up the matter
discreetly and spare AUC adverse publicity. On December 17, while teaching
her class, Professor Mehrez was whisked to the office of the President for
an impromptu meeting with the President, the Provost, the Dean, and the
said physician. In this meeting she was informed of the nature of the
charge against her and of the desire of the University to hush up the
matter by having her withdraw the book and apologize to the class for
assigning it. Professor Mehrez, a tenured professor and a highly respected
scholar of Modern Arabic Literature, declined to do either but expressed
willingness to exclude the novel, which she had already taught, from the
examination.

In the wake of this incident a public campaign was launched by some
Egyptian newspapers to discredit Professor Mehrez and to embarrass the
American University. One immediate consequence has been the removal from
the shelves of the AUC Bookstore of  works that are deemed by
self-appointed custodians of public morality as injurious to good taste.
Among these are  Sonallah Ibrahim's
THE SMELL OF IT and ALifa Rifaat's Distant View of a Minaret. In addition,
the committee for the core curriculum at AUC is now seriousely considering
removing
al-Tayyib Salih's novel Season of Migration to the North from its reading
list for this coming semester. Meantime, the campaign against Professor
Mehrez has grown steadily more vicious in the last few weeks, as she is
being charged now with sexual harassment for assigning "pornographic
material" to minors and forcing them to discuss it.

>>From all appearances, this is not merely a gross violation and infringement
of the academic rights of one professor of Arabic literature, grave and
unconscionable as that is, but a wholesale attack on the literary
imagination and on the very foundations of modern Arabic literature.  If it
is allowed to go unchecked, this eager censorship will ultimately consign
imaginative literature to the role of beautifying and consecrating the ugly
reality of violence, oppression, and injustice that prevail, alas, in much
of the contemporary Arab world.

We strongly urge all concerned colleagues to write directly to the
President of AUC to protest the campaign of terror and intimidation against
Professor Mehrez and to support the principles of academic freedom and a
liberal-arts education on which American universities stand, at home and
abroad.

Please email President Gerhart at jgerhart at aucegypt.edu, and cc. to Prof
Mehrez at samehrez at hotmail.com

If you prefer smail, the address is American University in Cairo, 113 Kasr
El Aini St., Cairo, Egypt.
If you need any more information on this matter, please feel free to
contact either one of us.
magda al-nowaihi                        muhammad siddiq
columbia university                     univ. of california, berkeley

Taoufik ben Amor, Columbia University
On behalf of Magda al-Nowaihi, Columbia University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 25 19:53:35 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:53:35 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Adjectives response
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1) Subject: Adjectives modifying construct phrases response

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Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: waheed samy <w_samy at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Adjectives modifying construct phrases response

Hi Andy;

>
>  Consider if you will the following construct phrase bening modified by
>two adjectives:
>
>   NOUN       NOUN      NOUN        NOUN         ADJ         ADJ
> farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati T-Tawiilati

>  (the)brakes(f.nom) (the)car(f.gen.) (the)director(f.gen.)
>the-company(f.gen) the-intelligent(f.gen) the-tall/long(f.gen)
>
>  I can wring out at least two workable meanings:
>
>  The brakes of the car of the tall intelligent director of the company
>  The brakes of the long car of the intelligent director of the company
> * the brakes of the long intelligent car of the director of the company
>
> I have four questions.
>
>  1) Does the current word order "work" for you.  If not what would you
>     do to "fix it up?"

The sentence is a bit contrived.
The sentence is too long, for it to work I would throw out the
adjectives.

>
>  2) If you were to insert the adjective "xarbaana", or "mu9aTTala",
>     referring to the car's brakes, where in the above Arabic string would
>     you put it?
>
>     a. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati l-xarbaanati
>        dh-dhakiyyati T-Tawiilati
>     b. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati
>        l-xarbaanati T-Tawiilati
>     c. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati
>        T-Tawiilati l-xarbaanati

I would not accept any of the above alternatives.

>
>  3) What is the likelihood of you ever uttering such a phrase
>      where 0 = never and 10 = most comfortable way of expressing the idea
>     "the broken brakes of the intelligent company director's long car"?
>


0

>  4) What is the most comfortable way of expressing this meaning in your
>     home dialect of Arabic?


In Egyptian Colloquial Arabic (ECA), I would use a gumla 'ismiyya (mubtada'
and x at b@r) whose x at b@r is a gumla 'ismiyya


mubtada':   mudirt ishshirka, illi hiyya nn at CHa TT at wiila dahiyyan
x at b@r :     f at rm@lt il3 at r@biyya pta3itha b at yZ@

In Arabic (1256):
¦͋Š «”Œ‹“Š¨ «””È ÁÍҊ «”Ê«¹ÕŠ «”×Ë͔Š ¦ÁÍÒʨ ·‹Â”Š «”‹»ÍŠ » « Á« »«ÍÿŠ


Waheed

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 25 20:03:16 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:03:16 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: Summer Programmes in Arabic
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1) Subject: 1/2/4-week courses in ARABIC -SOAS LC UK
2) Subject: Summer Programmes in Arabic response

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Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Sherin AbdelHalim <sa15 at soas.ac.uk>
Subject: 1/2/4-week courses in ARABIC -SOAS LC UK

In addition to regular courses in Arabic, the Language Centre at SOAS, UK
is offering the following 1/2/4-week intensive courses in Arabic (Modern
Standard Arabic & Egyptian Colloquial):

*	One-week Courses:	22nd-26th March 1999

*	Two-week Courses:	6th-19th April 1999

*	Four-week Courses:	5th - 30th/7/1999
			2nd - 27th/8/1999
ENQUIRIES:
Please address enquiries to:
      The Courses Secretary
      The Language Centre
      School of Oriental and African Studies
      Thornhaugh Street
      Russell Square
      LONDON
      WC1H OXG
Telephone:
      UK: 0171 323 6379
      World: +44 171 323 6379
Fax:
      UK: 0171 637 7355
      World: +44 171 637 7355
E-mail: languages at soas.ac.uk
http://endjinn.soas.ac.uk/Centres/LanguageCentre
.................................................

Sherin Abdel-Halim
Co-ordinator of Arabic Language Courses
Language Centre, SOAS, University of London
Tel UK:  0171 691 3445	World:  +44 171 691 3445
Fax UK:  0171 637 7355	World:  +44 171 637 7355
Check our Language Centre Arabic courses at:
http://www.soas.ac.uk/centres/languagecentre/arabic

..........................................................................
Sherin Abdel Halim
Co-ordinator of Arabic Language Courses
Language Centre, SOAS, University of London
Tel UK:  0171 323 6379	World:  +44 171 323 6379
Fax UK:  0171 637 7355	World:  +44 171 637 7355

Check our Language Centre Arabic courses at:
http://www.soas.ac.uk/centres/languagecentre/arabic

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Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Taoufik Ben-Amor <tb46 at columbia.edu>
Subject: Summer Programmes in Arabic

Dear John,

Few years ago, i believe i saw some information about a summer program in
SOAS (School of Oriental and African Studies) at the University of London.

Taoufik ben Amor
Columbia University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 27 17:10:23 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:10:23 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Algerian Music
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Date: 27 Jan 1999
From: Bonnie <bonniedb at nac.net>
Subject: Algerian Music

I'm writing a screenplay in which there is mention of a piece of music
(Algerian  rai).
The title of the piece is "koubou-koubou" which I assume is an Arabic
word. It's important to me to know what the word "koubou" means. Perhaps
it's a name?

I'd appreciate any help you can give me.

Thanks very much.

Bonnie

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 27 17:13:45 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:13:45 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: Intensive Summer Arabic at Penn
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Date: 27 Jan 1999
From: Mary Martin <marym at mec.sas.upenn.edu>
Subject: Intensive Summer Arabic at Penn

Summer Intensive Elementary Arabic
Summer Session 1:  May 17th-June 25th, 1999.
The University of Pennsylvania

This an intensive, full year course in Modern Standard Arabic, the Arabic
used in formal discourse in the contemporary Arab world.  Upon successful
completion of the course, students will be able to read and understand
texts on familiar topics, carry on simple conversations, and engage in
 basic written correspondence.  The course will cover the same material as
Penn's year-long Elementary Arabic course (AMES 030), and will prepare
students for Penn's second-year course, Intermediate Arabic (AMES 031).


 If there is interest, graduate students studying medieval Islamic
 civilization or comparative Semitic studies will be introduced to
 bibliographic tools for the study of early and classical Arabic.

For more information, contact the Penn Language Center at
plc at ccat.sas.upenn.edu  or  (215) 898-6039.



--
Mary Martin
Assistant Director
Middle East Center
838 Williams Hall
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6305
(215) 898 4690
Fax: (215) 573 2003
email: marym at mec.sas.upenn.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 27 17:14:39 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:14:39 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Spanish Poetry response
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Date: 27 Jan 1999
From: John Leake <jleake at shikar.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Spanish Poetry

Dear David,

You could also look at Abu Nuwaas (d. 803), the half-Persian Arab poet
whose drinking songs are well known and not at a mystical (Shemu'el
ha-Nagid's don't seem too mystical either!).

John L.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 27 17:16:55 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:16:55 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Arab poets
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Date: 27 Jan 1999
From: Wail Hassan <w-hassan at wiu.edu>
Subject: Arab poets

Does anyone know the answer to any or all of the following questions?

1. When was Salah Abdel Sabur awarded the State Prize for Literature?

2. What disease caused Ibrahim Tuqan's untimely death?

3. Does Ahmad Abdel Mu'ti Hijazi teach at Cairo University? If not, what is
his current position?

4. Where does Abdel Wahab al-Bayyati live?

5. Where does Sa'id 'Aql live now?

This information is needed to complete biographical sketches of modern Arab
poets. Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated and properly
acknowledged.

Waïl Hassan
Assistant Professor
Department of English and Journalism
Western Illinois University
Macomb, IL 61455

(H) 309-833-3083
(W) 309-298-1112
Fax 309-298-2974

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 27 17:16:12 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:16:12 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: afro-asiatic linguistics
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Date: 27 Jan 1999
From: David Wilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: afro-asiatic linguistics

a colleague is looking for a simple reference on afro-asiatic
linguistics for his students to read by way of introduction/overview of
the subject.

can anyone supply me with any?

thanks

David Wilmsen
Director, Arabic and Translation Studies Division
American University in Cairo

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:28:54 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:28:54 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: afro-asiatic linguistics response
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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: Petr.Zemanek at ff.cuni.cz
Subject: afro-asiatic linguistics response

Funny enough, at least to my knowledge, there are not that many titles as
one might think. Here are some overviews:

Afroasiatic; a survey., Edited by Carleton T. Hodge.
The Hague, Mouton, 1971. 130 p. 26 cm. fl25.00
Series title: Janua linguarum : Series practica ; 163

A basic survey, outdated nowadays, but gives the general
overview. Another copy of this can be found also in
Current Trends in Linguistics (ed. by T.A.Sebeok), Vol. 6,
Linguistics in South West Asia and North Africa. Mouton,
Hague - Paris 1970.

Afrasian languages /, I.M. Diakonoff ; [translated
from the Russian by A.A. Korolev and V.Ya. Porkhomovsky].
Nauch. izd. Moscow : Nauka, Central Dept. of Oriental
Literature, 1988. 141, [3] p. ; 22 cm.
Series title: Languages of Asia and Africa,
Languages of Asia and Africa (Institut vostokovedeniia
(Akademiia nauk SSSR))

A very good, but does not give much about individual
language families.

Semito-Hamitic languages; an essay in classification,
[by] I. M. Diakonoff. Moscow, Nauka, Central Dept. of
Oriental Literature, 1965. 121, [3] p. fold. map. 22 cm.
Series title: Languages of Asia and Africa

The predecessor of the above title.

If German is also acceptable, then you should choose
the respective passages in Die Sprachen Afrikas (ed. by
B. Heine, T.C. Schadeberg and E. Wolff), Buske, Hamburg 1981.
This title gives a very good overview, and it's meant as
a teaching book, so possibly the best solution...

There is also a title in Czech (Karel Petracek: Uvod do
hamitosemitske (afroasijske) jazykovedy (Introduction
to Hamito-Semitic [Afro-Asiatic] linguistics), Praha 1990,
but I don't think that's really an option...

Hope this helps.

Petr Zemanek

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:15:45 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:15:45 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: Chicago 1999 Summer Program
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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: "Kenneth J. Garden" <summer-arabic at uchicago.edu>
Subject: 1999 University of Chicago Intensive Summer Arabic Program

The 1999 University of Chicago
Intensive Summer Arabic Program
June 21-August 20

The University of Chicago is pleased to announce its 1999 Intensive Summer
Arabic Program from June 21-August 20.  For application materials or to ask
further questions about the program, please write to :
Ken Garden
Intensive Summer Arabic Program
Center for Middle Eastern Studies
The University of Chicago
5828 University Avenue
Chicago, IL 60637

summer-arabic at uchicago.edu

The Program
Instruction in Modern Standard Arabic will be offered at five levels:
Elementary, Intermediate, High Intermediate, Advanced and, this year for
first time, a new fifth year course, Reading the Classical Texts.  For the
first three levels, the primary textbooks will be the EMSA books published
by the University of Michigan.  Some instructors will supplement these with
the al-Kitaab books by Brustad, al-Batal and al-Tonsi.  Additionally, the
Intermediate and High Intermediate classes will supplement the textbooks
with reading materials.  The Advanced level will concentrate on reading
selections and advanced grammar.  Reading the Classical Texts will focus on
reading the Qur'an, Hadith, Tafsir, fiqh and other texts from the classical
period.  The exact selection of readings for these latter two courses will
be determined in part by student interest.  Elective courses may be offered
in addition to the above mentioned courses depending on student interest.
In addition to classroom instruction, there will be weekly lectures in
Arabic (the Arabic circle) and English on topics related to the Middle East
by leading experts in the field.  Additionally there will be
extra-curricular activities that will give students additional opportunity
to use their Arabic.  These include drama, poetry, story-telling, debate,
and newspaper groups.

Credit, Tuition, and Fees
Each of the five levels consists of one year's (three quarters') study of
Arabic and earns a full year's credit under either the Quarter or Semester
system.  Tuition for the full (three quarter) sequence will be $4704
(subject to slight increase).  Students attending Committee on
Institutional Cooperation (CIC) member universities pay tuition rates of
their home institutions.  Students will be assessed University Health
Service and Student Activities fees and, if they lack a personal insurance
plan, a Student Health Insurance Fee.

Note that there are several NON-CREDIT options available for a
significantly reduced tuition.  Information about these options can be sent
to those who inquire.

Scholarships
Thanks in part to a generous grant from the Mellon Foundation, a number of
scholarships for full or partial tuition and/or living accommodations will
be available to qualified applicants on a merit basis.  To be considered
for financial aid, request a scholarship application and return it with
supporting materials by April 15, 1999 to the program address given above.
Notification of awards will be made in early May.
Intensive Summer Arabic courses are also open to students via the Committee
on Institutional Cooperation (CIC) Traveling Scholar Program, and Foreign
Language Enhancement Program (FLEP) fellowship awards.  The CIC application
deadline is April 15. Please note that CIC students mush register through
their home institutions.  For more information about CIC and FLEP, contact
the CIC office at your institution.  Foreign Language Area Studies
(FLAS/Title VI)awards also may be applied.

To apply for a scholarship you will need:
1)Undergraduate or Graduate transcript
2)Two letters of recommendation, including one from your advisor and one
from current or previous Arabic instructor or, if you have not yet studied
Arabic, instructor of another language or, if you have not studied another
language, any other professor.
3)A statement of no more than one page describing the relevance of Arabic
to your academic professional or personal goals.
4)A tentative budget, including expenses likely to be incurred and other
sources of support available to you or for which you have applied.
5)A $35 application fee.  This fee need not be paid if you have ever
applied to the University of Chicago in the past.

Accommodations
Participants are encouraged to reside in University Housing selected for
the program.  The program can also forward advertisements for sublets
posted on the University of Chicago's web site and accessible only within
the University domain to students who request them.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:11:31 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:11:31 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: AUC Summer 1999
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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: Waheed Samy <w_samy at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: AUC Summer 1999 intensive announcement

1999 SUMMER DATES

June 6 (Sunday)            Registration and Placement Exams
June 7 (Monday)           Orientation
June 9 (Wednesday)    Classes Begin
July 27 (Tuesday)          Last day of classes (end of July)
July 28 (Wednesday)    Final exams

Cost: US $ 2620 Level Egyptian Colloquial Modern Standard Electives Cultural
            Offerings
            Elementary  Monday-Thursday
            8 - 10 Sunday - Wednesday
            10:30 - 12:30 Sunday - Wednesday
            1:30 - 2:45 Twice a week
            3-4
            Intermediate  Monday-Thursday
            8 - 10 Sunday - Wednesday
            10:30 - 12:30 Sunday - Wednesday
            1:30 - 2:45 Twice a week
            3-4
            Advanced  Monday-Thursday
            8 - 10 Sunday - Wednesday 10:30 - 12:30 Sunday - Wednesday
            1:30 - 2:45 Twice a week
            3-4
Egyptian Colloquial
The language of every day interaction and daily living.
Modern Standard
The language of the media, literature, science, and fields of knowledge.
Electives
Translation, modern literature, newspapers, The Koran, writing, grammar,
economics; and others.
Cultural Offerings and Trips
Caligraphy, music, singing, cooking; and  dance.


The following are your contact addresses:
Address in Egypt Address in America
            The Arabic Language Institute
            The American University in Cairo
            113 Kasr El Aini street
            P.O.Box 2511
            Cairo 11511
            Egypt
            Tel:  3575055
            Fax: 3557565
            alu at aucegypt.edu  The American University in Cairo
            420 Fifth Avenue
            3rd Floor
            New York, New York 10018-2729
            USA
            Attn: Mrs. Mary Davidson
            Tel:  (212) 730-8800
            Fax: (212) 730-1600
            aucegypt at aucnyo.edu

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Waheed Samy
The American University in Cairo
+202 357 5039
w_samy at aucegypt.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:13:06 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:13:06 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Arab poets response
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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: "Chouairi, R. MR           DFL" <GR6548 at exmail.usma.army.mil>
Subject: Arab poets response

Dear Friend
Saiid Akl live now in Beirut in his appartment in the Badaro
neighborhood.   I saw him last year and we spoke at length about many
topics.   He is teaching a class at a University and writing for
Al-SafIr.  We spoke about many topics mainely the differences between
his style in prose and the styles of Ameen al-Reehani and Saiid Taqi al
Deen 2 people that we both immensely admire.

				Rajaa Chouairi
			               Abu Fouad

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:06:47 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:06:47 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Algerian Music response
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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: "Dr Salah D. Hammoud, 333-4580" <HammoudSD.DFF.USAFA at usafa.af.mil>
Subject: Algerian Music

Re: "Koubou"

Without knowing the song or at least the words in the lyrics which
immediately follow, it is hard to tell.  But I suspect "koubou" is the
plural form of the imperative "koub" meaning "pour!" as in pour the tea!

Salah.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:05:08 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:05:08 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Ba9labakk, Ma9diikarib
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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: hdavies at aucegypt.edu
Subject: Ba9labakk, Ma9diikarib

According to Wright's Grammar (1951), Vol. 1, p.108B, a "mixed compound
proper name"(ism 9alam murakkab majzi) such as Ba9labakk or Ma9diikarib
is formed of  two or more ordinary words.  Can someone tell me, what are
the component words of each of the preceeding; and who or what is
Ma9diikarib?

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan  7 18:49:03 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:49:03 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Root of 'nasta:iinu' responses
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1) Subject: @ayn waaw noon
2) Subject: 'ala wazn istaf'ala
3) Subject: root "3-w-n"
4) Subject: transcription
5) Subject: root /<wn/
6) Subject: ('ayn waaw nuun)
7) Subject: not ghayn as initial cosonnant

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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject: @ayn waaw noon

Hi,

  The ':' symbol can only be representing an '@ayn' (voiced pharyngeal
approximate).  This is a form ten, the root is @ayn waaw noon.  My
paper-bound 4th edition Hans Wehr lists this root starting at the bottom
of page 771.  The form 10 'ista at aana, yasta at iinu, 'ista at aana(tun) can be
found on page 772.  According to Wehr : to ask for (s.o.'s; bi or hu) help
(against; @alaa).

  Other useful lexical items from this root are forms III and VI:
III = @aawana = he helped
VI = ta at aawanuu = they cooperated

So =
'iiyaaka na:budu wa 'iiyaaka nasta:iinu'
 can only be translated
'you we worship and you we ask for help'

Andrew Freeman
Ph.D. student UofM, Ann Arbor, Michigan

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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: Jackie Murgida <jmurg at star.net>
Subject: 'ala wazn istaf'ala

Grover, the system that your dictionaries use to categorize the verbs [Forms
I-XV] is not what native speakers of Arabic use. One of the best things I
ever learned in Arabic class was the Arabic system, which uses the letters
faa', 'ayn, and laam for the first, middle, and last letters of the root.
So, Form I = fa'ala/fa'ila, etc.; Form II = fa''ala, Form III is faa'ala,
and so on.  If you tell a native speaker that a verb is 'ala wazn istaf'ala,
for instance, he'll know what you're talking about [according to the pattern
of istaf'ala].

Maybe some of our colleagues could provide the verb charts using the f'l
system for you. It makes a lot more sense if you see it all on one page in
Arabic. Usually it has perfect, imperfect, passives [all in 3ms],
participles, and the maSdar [verbal noun]. Once you see the whole thing for
sound verbs and then learn what happens with weak verbs [like ista'aana] you
realize that it's a beautifully regular system and you see how everything
relates. At least, that's the way I felt when I was learning Arabic.

An expensive dictionary, but useful for people who haven't yet mastered the
Western system, is the Mawrid. Words are listed by *stem*, rather than root,
so nasta'iinu, stem 'ista'aana would be under the first letter, alif, rather
than the first letter of the root, 'ayn. It's not perfect, but it can be a
good alternative when you're stuck *if* you can determine the 3ms form of a
verb and the singular of a plural noun -- or make good guesses.  It's much
easier for your students to deal with than roots, I think.

Good luck!

Jackie

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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: Robert Langer <rlanger at ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de>
Subject: root "3-w-n"

"Nasta3?nu" is X ("istaf3ala") of the root "3-w-n" (no verbal I ("fa3ala")
according to Wehr for this root, only the noun "3awn - engl. help").
X ("istaf3ala") meaning - amoung other meanings - "to beg for something" in
this case means "to beg for help".
?
Best wishes for 1999 and thanks to all replying to my "cake" query.
?
Robert Langer, Tutor
Seminar f?r Sprachen und Kulturen des Vorderen Orients: Islamwissenschaft
Ruprecht-Karls-Universit?t Heidelberg
Sandgasse 7
D-69117 Heidelberg, Neckar
E-mail: rlanger at ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de


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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: aissati <aissati at gironet.nl>
Subject: transcription

I think you got the wrong transcription for ':' This should be a 'ayn
(transcribed as epsilon sometimes) and not a ghayn (transcribed as a
gamma). I think the root of the verb in question is 'awan "help, aid'
and the derived form means then 'get the help of' or 'ask for the help
of'
sincerely,
Abderrahman El Aissati
Tilburg University

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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: may2 at cornell.edu
Subject: root /<wn/

nasta<iin is a Form X verb based on  the root /<wn/. It is in the
imperfect tense; its perfect is ista<aan.  It should be easy to look it
up in Wehr's dictionary.

Munther Younes

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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: Haidar Moukdad <moukdad at GSLIS.Lan.McGill.CA>
Subject: ('ayn waaw nuun)


 < nasta:iinu

     This word is from the tenth form of 'aana; the root is 'wn
('ayn waaw nuun).




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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: "Dr Salah D. Hammoud, 333-4580" <HammoudSD.DFF.USAFA at usafa.af.mil>
Subject: not ghayn as initial cosonnant

The root for nasta:iinu is :awana with 'ayn not ghayn as initial cosonnant
(to help, support, assist). See p. 659 in the Wehr-Cowan 1976 edition.

Salah
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan  7 18:50:21 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 11:50:21 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Query
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Date: 07 Jan 1999
From: G.Borg at let.kun.nl
Subject: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Query

Dear colleagues,

My question has to do with sources: In the Mu`jam al-Nisaa' al-Shaa`iraat
(sic) fii '-Jaahiliyya wa'l-Islaam, edited I think in 1996 in Beirout by
Abd Allah `Ali Muhannaa (never mind the transcriptions) the editor mentions
a source called: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab. I am completely at a loss as to what
the editor means by this source. It is definitely not the Riyaad al-Adab
fii Maraathii Shawaa`ir al-`Arab by Cheikho. Does anyone have a suggestion?
Many thanks in advance!

Best wishes,

Gert Borg

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:49:12 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:49:12 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: "Ihya al uloom" in Arabic
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: Ahmed Z <mustang6 at rocketmail.com>
Subject: "Ihya al uloom" in Arabic

Merhaba!

I am a graduate student in history in Portland, Oregon.
I am looking for a copy of Ghazzali's Ihya al uloom
in the original Arabic. If anybody knows where I can
beg, buy or borrow it from I'd love to hear of it.

If it has a side by side English translation, that
would be wonderful. But if it's only in Arabic that
would serve the purpose just as well.

Shukran

Farzan Zaheed.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:48:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:48:17 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Root of 'nasta:iinu'
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: YemenLC at aol.com
Subject: Root of 'nasta:iinu'

nasta:iinu is form X of the word AWN (ayn waw noon)

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:47:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:47:17 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: A & E sentences for banners
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1)
Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: Saifullah Kamalie <saif at centrin.net.id>
Subject: Arabic and English sentences for banners

Dear colleages,

I work in a boarding school with about 2000 students. Some of them asked me
to write for them some sentences in Arabic and English they to write them
on banners. The sentences are for promoting the importance of mastering
both langauges, such as "Open the door of your future by English and
Arabic". But, as I am not native speaker for those languages, I couldn't
say that sentence was acceptable. I hope anybody in this forum can give me
the simple and attractive sentences in English and Arabic. thank you in
advance for the assistance.

Saifullah Kamalie

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:46:15 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:46:15 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Arabic plural morphology query
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: "R. Hoberman" <rdhoberman at ccmail.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Arabic plural morphology query

Does anyone know of any discussions of Arabic plural formation with
respect to the concepts of inflectional versus derivational morphology?
My idea is that although plural formation in most languages is a classic
example of inflectional morphology, in Arabic it's much more like
derivational: the form is rather unpredictable, many nouns have more than
one plural form, and these may have different meanings (all these
properties, of course, within limits).  Has this been said before?

Bob Hoberman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:45:09 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:45:09 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Response
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: "Roberta L. Dougherty" <rld at pobox.upenn.edu>
Subject: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Response

Dear Gert,

I don't know what your author may have intended, but a quick search in
the RLIN database produced four different editions, all with this title:

Ghurayyib, Jurj.
Shairat al-Arab fi al-jahiliyah \ Jurj Ghurayyib. -- al-Tabah
1. -- Bayrut : Dar al-Thaqafah, 1984.
280 p. ; 19 cm. --
(Silsilat al-mawsu fi al-adab al-Arabi ; 39)

Saqr, Abd al-Badi.
Shairat al-Arab / jam wa-tahqiq Abd al-Badi Saqr. --
al-Tabah 1. -- [Damascus] : al-Maktab al-Islami, 1967.

Wannus, Ibrahim.
Shairat al-Arab : dirasah tarikhiyah adabiyah / Ibrahim Wannus. --
al-Tabah 1. -- Antilyas : Manshurat Miryam, 1992.

Yamut, Bashir.
Shairat al-Arab fi al-Jahiliyah wa-al-Islam / Bashir Yamut. --
al-Tabah 1. -- Bayrut : Maktabah al-Ahliyah, 1934.

Given the title of your source, I suppose he might have meant either the
Yamut title or the one by Ghurayyib.

--
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:44:00 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:44:00 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Transcribing ayn
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: "R. Hoberman" <rdhoberman at ccmail.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Transcribing ayn

Isn't it just wild how many different ways people transcribe ayn?!  In the
last day's postings there were ' : @ 3 and <, to which add the fairly
widely used 9 and `, plus my own favorite &.  In everyday usage there is
also simply a, especially after the vowel a, as in Saad, Baath, Baalbek.

Just an observation -- no call for standardization!

Bob Hoberman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan  8 20:42:50 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:42:50 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Long vowels response
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Date: 08 Jan 1999
From: "R. Hoberman" <rdhoberman at ccmail.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Long vowels response

In all the examples of words with three long vowels posted so far, one of
the vowels has been in an inflectional suffix (-aat, -aani, -uuna). Trying
to think of any with three long vowels in the stem I come up with
&aashuuraa' (&=&ayn), though here too the -aa' is a suffix, but a
derivational one I suppose.  The interesting thing is that this word
apparently has a variant with a short first vowel:  &ashuuraa', suggesting
that words with three long vowels might be somehow anomalous, not just
rare. Are there other nouns on this wazn?

Bob Hoberman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 17:27:25 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:27:25 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Response
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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: MOHAMMED M JIYAD <mmjiyad at unix.amherst.edu>
Subject: Shaa`iraat al-`Arab Response

MarHaban,

In LaTaa'if Al-Nisaa', author Ridha Deeb has a chapter on ShaaCiraat
Majhuulaat, "unknown poetesses." You might find some interesting
information since the sources the author quoted include Al-'Ibshiihy,
Al-MasCuudy, Al-ASfahaany, Al-Tijaany, Ibn Qiyam, Al-Washaa',
Al-'AsuuTy... etc.

M. Jiyad

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 17:23:13 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:23:13 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Root of 'nasta:iinu'
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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: Abdel-Rahman Amer <ABDOU at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Root of 'nasta:iinu'

Salam.
This is nothing professional, only a little trick to make your job
easier. So long as the verb is six letters long "esta3ana" then it has to
be on the "estaf3ala" wazn, meaning that the last three characters are
the root. Since the intermediate alef has to have a "waw" or "yaa2"
origin this leaves you with either "3 w n" or "3 y n".  Look them both up!
although with little practice you can tell which is the right one
immediately.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 17:22:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:22:17 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Long vowels responses
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1) Subject: loan words
2) Subject: number of vowels in words
3) Subject: Long vowels discussion

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: "Buckwalter, Tim" <TimB at alpinemedia.COM>
Subject: loan words

Although the root morpheme ('ayn-shiin-raa') is undisputed, the pattern
morpheme _aa_uu_aa' is not found in any other Arabic word that I know
of. Wehr does list the word zaajuuraa, but this is an obvious loan word.
My search for words with CvvCvvCvv yielded only additional loan words
(e.g. brwfyswr, fwnwgrAf, hwlywwd, etc.).

Tim Buckwalter

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2)
Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: Kahlaoui Noureddine <kahlaoun at ERE.UMontreal.CA>
Subject: number of vowels in words

One may be inclined to think that there's no constraint on the number
of phonemic long vowels in a word of Arabic though the phonology of the
language doesn't seem to allow more than two in a single word.
One can imagine words such as the following:
maawaraa?ii	------> maawaraa?iyyaat
and if the need arises for the opposite of that concept, it would give
rise to even this:
laamaawaraa?iyyaat
The morphological structure of Arabic seems to allow these derivations,
just as it adopted 'metaphysiacal' as:
miitaafiiziiqii.
Now on a phonological level different degrees of reduction of the long
vowels will happen in the same word. One can expect those reductions in
standard Arabic to be influenced by the phonology of the local
dialect/language.

Noureddine kahlaoui

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: AHMED KHORSHID <KHORSHID at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Long vowels discussion

When I first read this subject I assumed that the three long vowels
should be medial. So, I thought of qaamuusaan, etc. Now, other responses
include final long vowels like -haa, which gives us four long vowels,e.g.
qaamuusaahaa, etc.

Ahmad Khorshid
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 17:11:52 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:11:52 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Transcribing ayn
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2) Subject: list standardization

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: John Leake <jleake at shikar.demon.co.uk>
Subject: 7 also used

I've also seen 7 used 'ain in on-line chat groups in Abu Dhabi.

John Leake

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: Hassan Gadalla <hgadalla at aun.eun.eg>
Subject: list standardization

R. Hoberman wisely and justly asks "Isn't it just wild how many
different ways people transcribe ayn?!" I should answer: Yes, it is wild
and confusing as well. Therefore, I suggest that at least we, readers of
Arabic-L, agree on using one symbol for 9ayn, for example the "fairly
widely used" one, the number 9.

Hassan Gadalla

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 11 17:25:53 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:25:53 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Arabic Notary?!
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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: Sumair <sumair at iname.com>
Subject: Arabic Notary?!

a friend of mine has a birth certificate in arabic, which he would like
to get translated into arabic AND NOTARIZED.  anyone know where
/ how to accomplish this?!  there must be services which translate
and notarize official documents...

forgive me if this message isn't best suited for the list server, but i
didn't know where else to turn to...


sumair

http://members.xoom.com/Sumair/page35.html

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:08:10 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Arabic plural morphology response
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1) Subject: Paper
2) Subject: Sources

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: "Robert R. Ratcliffe" <ratcliff at fs.tufs.ac.jp>
Subject: Paper

I wrote a paper on just this topic a long time ago when I was still a
graduate student: Ratcliffe, R. 1990. "Arabic Broken Plurals: Arguments
for a Two-fold Classification of Morphology" Perspectives on Arabic
Linguistics II.ed. Mushira Eid and John McCarthy, 94-119. John
Benjamins.

Later when I was researching my dissertation (The Broken Plural Problem
In Arabic, Semitic and Afroasiatic, Yale 1992)  I remember noting that
someone surprisingly early in the literature had made the comment that
the broken plural was a derivational and not an inflectional category.
I just made a cursory search for the reference but now I can't find it.

The conclusion I draw from points like those you mention is that
inflection and derivation are accidental (as opposed to universal)
categories.  It happens that in some (European) languages, formal,
semantic, syntactic, and other properties of morphemes or morphological
processes tend to converge in a certain way, but in other languages the
convergence doesn't occur in the same way. This is one of the issues
that has caused me to lose faith in the generative approach.
Generativists take a handful of received ideas about language drawn from
traditional grammar, classical logic, Saussure, etc. and elevate them to
the status of universals.  Then rather than revise the revise the
proposed universals when the data doesn't fit they try to explain away
the problematic data using underlying processes, abstract forms, etc.. I
think a typological and statistical approach to an issue like this would
be more likely to be fruitful: Which properties always converge, which
properties frequently, which rarely, and why.

By the way I have a book on the broken plural just coming out from
Benjamins. (It's been announced, though I haven't seen it yet): The
?Broken? Plural Problem in Arabic and Comparative Semitic: Allomorphy
and Analogy in Non-Concatenative Morphology.

Best Wishes,

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Robert R. Ratcliffe
Senior Lecturer, Arabic and Linguistics,
Dept. of Linguistics and Information Science
Tokyo University of Foreign Studies
Nishigahara 4-51-21, Kita-ku
Tokyo 114 Japan

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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: George Kiraz <gkiraz at research.bell-labs.com>
Subject: Sources


I don't know if these works answer your specific questions, but they are on
broken plural "derivation":

M. Hammond, "Templatic Transfer in Arabic Broken Plurals", _Natural Language
and Linguistic Theory_ 6: 247-270, 1988.

J. McCarthy and A. Prince, "Foot and word in prosodic morphology: the Arabic
broken plural". _Natural Language and Linguistic Theory_ 8: 209-283, 1990.

R. Ratcliffe, "Arabic Broken Plurals: Arguments for a two-fold
classification of morphology".  In M. Eid and J. McCarthy (eds.),
_Perspectives on Arabic Linguistics II_ (Amsterdam: John Benjamins, 1990).

Additionally (if that is of any interest), I have worked on computational
approaches to the broken plural:

G. Kiraz, _Computational Nonlinear Morphology: With Emphasis on Semitic
Languages_. (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, forthcoming [hopefully
1999!]).

George Kiraz

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 15:10:15 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Arabic Notary Response
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Date: 11 Jan 1999
From: Jackie Murgida <jmurg at star.net>
Subject: Arabic Notary

Many translators are either notaries themselves or they routinely have their
own translation notarized by someone else as part of their services. Your
friend just has to find a reputable translator. If this is in the U.S.,
there are several regional translator organizations, the American
Translators Association, and the Translators Guild, to name a few resources.
Most, if not all, have websites with a roster of members, directory of
services, etc. If the friend needs help with this, let me know the region or
nearest big city, and I can get some more information.

Jackie

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jan 12 21:01:08 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:01:08 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Word for storyteller
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Date: 12 Jan 1999
From: AATA <aata at byu.edu>
Subject: Shaharaza??

Hello!
I hope you can be of some help. I'm trying to find the arabic word for
"storyteller." A friend of mine said it was either "shaharaza" or
"sharharaza."
Do you know? Apparently it was  used in 1001 Arabian nights which was the
birth
place of many classics such as Aladdin.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
Susan Viess


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jan 12 20:57:52 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:57:52 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Arabic Notary Correction
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Date: 12 Jan 1999
From: Jackie Murgida <jmurg at star.net>
Subject: Arabic Notary Correction

I should correct something I said about notarization. The translator has a
statement that the translation is true and accurate and so on, and *that
statement* is what is notarized, not the translation itself.
Jackie

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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 13:58:50 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Literature donations
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1)
Date: 12 Jan 1999
From: AATA <aata at byu.edu>
Subject: Literature donations

(The American Association of Teachers of Arabic received the following
letter. We are posting it so that you may respond if you have helpful
resources.  Thank you, Rachel Unity.)

To whom it may concern:

I am the Senior chaplain of a major correctional institution in Northeast
Florida.  As such I am charged  with the responsibility of providing for
the religious needs of those incarcerated here.

Providing for their religious need is challenging since I have no funds to
purchase literature.  We are therefore dependent on organizations such as
yours for literature donations.  Should you be able to assist us with the
material please know that it will be received with thankfulness and
promptly acknowledged.

Sincerely,
Wayne Priest, Senior Chaplain
POB 333
Raiford, Florida 32083-0333

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 13 17:30:55 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:30:55 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Question on Maimonides
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Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: djust at netvision.net.il
Subject: Question on Maimonides


The Mishnah in Sabbath (5, 4) says: One isn't allowed to put
seasonings into a cooking pot or cooking bowl which one has
removed from the fire, but one can put them into the serving bowl
(q at rh) or into the serving dish.
On this Maimonides writes:
fHrm 'n trmy 'l't'bl fy 'w'ny 'lTbk why fy jly'nh l'nh Tbk 'm' 'n Sb fy
'lq at rh w at ly 'nh jly'n yrmy fyh l'n 'lT@'m hn'k 'ql Hr'rh wlys yTbk
ma rmy fyh.
('=alif)
Which I understand to mean:
And it is forbidden to put seasonings into the food being cooked
while it is boiling(?) because this is cooking, but if he puts it (the
food) into the serving-bowl even when the food is boiling(?) he
can put the seasoning into the food, since the heat of the food is
decreased there (by the cool material of the serving-bowl), and
thus what he puts into the food isn't cooked.
If so, 'ql Hr'rh would seem to be a passive, uqilla Hr'rh, I guess.
Any opinions on 'ql and the meaning of the passage?  This
interpretation seems to make more sense in both syntax and
physics than anything else I can think of.  Any other ideas?

Thanks,
David.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 13 19:43:25 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:43:25 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Storyteller discussion
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1) Subject: Hakawatis
2) Subject: Shahrazad
3) Subject: Qaass, Hakawati
4) Subject: Al-Raawy, Al-Haaky
5) Subject: stories

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1)
Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject: Hakawatis

In the old days, they used to gather around the "7akawati / Hakawati"
who told stories. "Hakawatis" kept folk tales alive, and they are known
for their style and animation.

I remember one from childhood who would whip his "Khayzarani"
(a bamboo stick that goes with the Beiruti folkloric "U'mbaz" dress)
on the table in participation, while we are all ears with jaws dropped...
Hakawatis are good at what they do, and they sure know the Arabic
language well.

George N. Hallak
http://aramedia.com

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2)
Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: Ahmed Z <mustang6 at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Shahrazad

Hi Susan,

Shahrazad is the name of the  heroine of "The
Thousand and One Nights". She is the narrator or the
story and Shahrazad is her personal name. It's a
Persian name still used for girls in parts of South
Asia. It does not mean storyteller. I am not sure of
it's meaning in Persian (not knowing Persian very
well), but I am fairly certain that it does not mean
storyteller.

There is an Arabic word for "storyteller" used in
many parts of the Arab world and that is
"Hakawaatee". It is the term used for a very popular
character that used to be common in the Arab world,
who used to spend his time relating stories in
Coffee-shops, for the entertainment of the people
sitting, drinking coffee. The word "Hakawaatee" comes
from the Arabic work "Hikaya" which means a story.

Hope this helps

Regards

Farzan.

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3)
Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: yaser at ISI.EDU
Subject: Qaass, Hakawati

Hello Susan,

I have to warn you that my reply is totally based on my memories of 1001
nights and I have no scientific evidences in proving that the following
legend is true! ?

The story teller in 1001 nights is "shahrazad" and the name of the king is
"shahrayar".? The latter is a masculine name and the first is a feminine
name. As far as I remember the story goes like that there was a king (named
shahrayar) who kills his female companion after spending the night with
them. And it was shahrazad's turn and since she knew the king's intentions,
she came up with an idea of telling the king an interesting story every
night and before sunrise she stops at the most interesting part of the
story so that the king will not kill her and instead he will be anxiously
waiting for the following night to come to hear the rest of the story.

As for the arabic equivalent of the english word "storyteller",? here are
some possible words: "Qaass" , "Hakawati".

? Hope that helps,
Yaser
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Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: MOHAMMED M JIYAD <mmjiyad at unix.amherst.edu>
Subject: Al-Raawy, Al-Haaky

Hi,
Al-Raawy, Al-Haaky are the words that come to my mind. In some Arabic
dialects, the word that is used is Al-Hakawaaty.
Mohammed Jiyad

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5)
Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: Lamia Belguith <Belguith.Lamia at planet.tn>
Subject: stories

I think the arabic word you are looking for is : "shahrazad"
it is the name of the women who (in stories)
tell her husband "shahrayar" a story each night.


Best regards,
Lamia Belguith

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 13 20:01:32 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:01:32 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: ALS meeting at Stanford
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Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: Abbas Benmamoun <e-benma at staff.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Hotel Information

Here is some hotel information for those planning to attend the upcoming
ALS meeting (March 5-6) at Stanford and would like to plan early.
?
The Stanford Terrace Inn, 531 Stanford Avenue, Palo Alto, offers symposium
participants reduced rates: $115 single, $125 double (with 2 people
sharing a? room and splitting the cost). Reservations may be made by
contacting the
hotel? directly at (650) 857-0333, fax (650) 857-0343 or toll-free at (800)
729-0332. Mention group code 23272. The group rate will be honored if
reservations
are? made before Feb. 5, 1999.?
?
The Creekside Inn, 3400 El Camino Real, Palo
Alto, is also offering a special rate of $125 single, $135 double for symposium
participants. Reservations may be made by calling (650) 493-2411 or
toll-free at (800) 492-7335. Mention group number BV0000. These rates apply
until Feb.
12,? 1999.
?
At both hotels, mention the Arabic Linguistics Society to obtain
conference rates. Both hotels offer shuttle service to campus.

>>From San Francisco airport, participants can take the Super Shuttle (it is
the? most reliable of the limo services around here). >From San Jose airport,
there? are plenty of other shuttles and limo services that cost around the same
as? Super Shuttle ($20 or less). Although Super Shuttle goes to San Jose
airport, it does not offer services FROM the airport.


Abbas

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 13 19:48:37 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:48:37 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Maimonides response
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Date: 13 Jan 1999
From: Michael Fishbein <FISHBEIN at HUMnet.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Maimonides response

The solution is easier and involves no implications about thermophysics!
One should read, "li'anna al-Ta at aama hunaaka aqallu Haraaratan, wa laysa
yaTbakhu ma ramaa (or rumiya) fiihi" -- i.e., "because the food there is
less hot (lit. less in respect to heat, a tamyiiz construction) and does
not cook what he has put (or what has been put) into it."

I would render the entire passage as follows, "So it has been forbidden
to put seasonings into cooking vessels while [the food] is cooking,
because that is cooking [which is forbidden on the sabbath], but if one
puts [the seasonings] into the serving dish, even if [the food] is
boiling, one may put [the seasoning] into it [viz. the food], because
the food there [in the serving dish] is less hot and does not cook what
has been put into it."

Or perhaps the implied subject of yaTbakhu is the person, in which case
one might render, and he [the person who puts the seasonings into the
serving dish] is not cooking what he has put into it [viz. the dish].

I hope this helps.
********************
Michael Fishbein
Dept. of Near Eastern Languages & Cultures
University of California, Los Angeles
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1511

(310) 206-2229 (office, 389A Kinsey Hall))
(310) 206-6456 (fax)
fishbein at humnet.ucla.edu
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 14 18:24:40 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:24:40 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Maimonides discussion
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Date: 14 Jan 1999
From: djust at netvision.net.il
Subject: Another Maimonides query

> The solution is easier and involves no implications about thermophysics!
I'm afraid that I don't understand how the physics is different.
Doesn't your translation mean that the food was cooled either by
the second vessel, or by the act of transferring from one vessel
to another, with the implication that if the food is somehow still hot
enough putting the seasonings in will be forbidden?
Was the original translation incorrect, or only less likely?  The
only obvious way I can see to distinguish, unless the first attempt
is very unnatural, is that there heat is Haraar, m., while in your
translation the original noun is Haraarah, f.  Does Haraar, m.,
even exist?
Thanks again.
D.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan 15 21:18:31 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:18:31 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Filial Afterthoughts for Comparison
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Date: 15 Jan 1999
From: Muhammad Deeb <mdeeb at gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Filial Afterthoughts for Comparison

Filial Afterthoughts for Comparison


	(1) Ancient Greek:

		I lie at sixty here in peace,
		Dionysious of Taurus was my name,
		I married not, not children got;
		I wish my father did the same.

				Anonymous [BCE]



	(2) Classical Arabic:


		This wrong was by father done
		to me, but ne'er by me to one.

		[Haadhaa janaahu abii @alayya
		wa maa janaytu @ala aHad.]

				Abu 'l- at Alaa' 'l-Ma at arri (973 - 1057),
				an eminent medieval classical
				poet-philosopher.



	(3) Contemporary Arabic:


		Between Abu 'l- at Alaa' and me,
		there is a conflict on paternal devotion,
		to which I call the attention of all the wise:

		He sees his father's blessing a crime;
		I see my father's crime a blessing.


		[Bayni wa bayna Abi 'l- at Alaa'i qaDiyyatun
		fi 'l-birri astar at ii lahaa 'l-Hukamaa'a:
		huwa qad ra'aa nu at maa abiihi jinaayatan,
		wa ara 'l-jinaayata min abii na at maa'a.]


				Hafiz Ibrahim (1871 - 1932)

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 20 16:53:20 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:53:20 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Thesaurus of Islamic Epigraphy
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Date: 20 Jan 1999
From: Fred <fredlag at worldnet.fr>
Subject: Thesaurus of Islamic Epigraphy

Thesaurus d'Epigraphie Islamique
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Chargee de recherches de la fondation Max Van Berchem
Paris/Geneve 1998.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 20 16:55:29 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:55:29 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: summer/intensive Arabic programs
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1)
Date: 20 Jan 1999
From: AATA <aata at byu.edu>
Subject: summer/intensive Arabic programs

If you would like to advertize your summer or intensive Arabic Program in
the AATA newsletter, please send announcements as soon as possible to
<aata at byu.edu>.

Thanks,

Kirk Belnap
Executive Director,
American Association of Teachers of Arabic

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:59:48 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: job notice
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1) Subject: job notice

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Date: 20 Jan 1999
From: "Dr. A. Godlas" <godlas at arches.uga.edu>
Subject: job notice

The Department of Religion of the University of Georgia
invites applications for a tenure-track teaching and
research position in Arabic and Islamic Studies at the level
of Assistant Professor to begin August, 1999.  The candidate
will be expected to teach Modern Standard Arabic, Islamic
Studies,  Introductory Religion classes, and to work with
the university's Arabic and Islamic Studies Summer abroad
program.  The salary will be competitive.

Ideally, candidates should have near native fluency in
Modern Standard Arabic, one modern dialect of Arabic, and
classical Arabic, excellent command of one other Muslim
language,  as well as native speaking fluency in English.
The ideal candidate will also have experience  teaching
Arabic.   Experience as an on-site administrator  in an
Arabic study abroad program and contacts with Arabic
speaking universities abroad are also desirable.

The ideal candidate will have experience in teaching an
introductory class in Religion  (covering  Judaism,
Chrisitianity, and Islam) and should be able to teach
undergraduate and graduate levels of Islamic Studies.  She
or he will also have first-hand knowledge of at least one
Arab and one non-Arab contemporary Muslim culture.  She or
he should have strong expertise in Arabic Islamic texts
dealing with the Qur'anic sciences, as well as 'ilm
al-hadith, fiqh, and tasawwuf.  Research interests among
these and other standard genres of Islamic literature are
desired.  Candidates not having all of the preceding
qualifications may still be considered and are encouraged to
apply.

Ph.D.  or  ABD (candidate for the Ph.D.) in Arabic and/or
Islamic Studies required at the time of application.  If
ABD, requirements for the degree should be completed by
August, 1999.  Applicants should submit a CV, statement of
research interests, three letters of reference, and one
publication (if available).  No decision will be made before
March 22, although applications received after this time may
be considered until the position is filled.

Send materials to Dr. Alan Godlas, Chair: Search Committee,
Department of Religion, Peabody Hall, University of Georgia,
Athens, GA (USA), 30602-1625.  For information about the
Department of Religion and its programs see
http://www.uga.edu/religion.  The University of Georgia is
an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action Institution. Women
and minorities are encouraged to apply.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 20 16:56:57 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:56:57 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Symposium announcement
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1) Subject: Symposium announcement

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1)
Date: 20 Jan 1999
From: Abbas Benmamoun <e-benma at staff.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Symposium announcement
?
The Arabic Linguistics Society together with? Stanford University

announce
?
The Thirteenth Annual Symposium on? Arabic Linguistics
?
In Honor of Charles Ferguson
?

March 5-6, 1999. Stanford University

Building 300, Room 300

Friday, March 5
Morning Session

8:30 - 8:45 Registration

8:45 - 9:00 Welcoming Remarks

9:00 - 9:30 Syllables and moras in Arabic
??? Paul Kiparsky, Stanford University

9:30 -10:00 Root consonants, gutturals, and hypocoristic patterns in
??? Colloquial Arabic
??? Stuart Davis and Bushra Adnan Zawaydeh, Indiana University

10:00-10:30 Acoustic evidence for empty nuclei in Arabic speech and
??? some? implications for automatic speech recognition
??? Fatmah Baothman and Ali Idrissi, King Abdulaziz University, and
??? Michael? Ingleby, University of Huddersfield

10:30-11:15 Break

11:00-11:30 Discovering arabic rhythm through a speech cycling task
??? Bushra Adnan Zawaydeh, Keiichi Tajima, and Mafuyu Kitahara,
??? Indiana University

11:30-12:00 Phonological processes and process repair in modern
??? Standard Arabic
??? Michael Ingleby, University of Huddersfield, and Fatmah Baothman
??? and Ali Idrissi, King Abdulaziz University

Afternoon Session

2:00 - 2:30 Assimilation and allophony within the uvular series
??? David Testen, Chicago Assyrian Dictionary

2:30 - 3:00 Greek evidence about 10th- and 11th-century Sicilian
??? Arabic Maria Mavroudi, University of California, Berkeley

3:00 - 3:30 Acquisition of movement in english by Arabic-speaking
??? children
??? Naomi Bolotin, University of Kansas

3:30 - 4:00 Break

4:00 - 4:30 Politeness formulas revisited
??? Russell Arent, St. Cloud State University

4:30 - 5:00 A corpus-based study of collocation in american english
??? and? modern standard arabic
??? Dalal M. El Gemei, Al-Azhar University

5:15-6:15 Tribute to Charles Ferguson

6:30-7:00 reception

Saturday, March 6
Morning Session

9:00 - 9:30 applying myers-scotton's mlf model to diglossic switching
??? Keith Walters and Naoma Boussofara-Omar, University of Texas at
??? Austin

9:30 -10:00 written arabic of personal letters
??? Jamil Daher, New York University

10:00-10:30 colloquialization and standardization in Andalusian and
??? Maghrebian musical genres
??? Taoufik Ben Amor, Columbia University

10:30-11:00 Break

11:00-12:00 Keynote Address
??? Forms of reported speech in Arabic
??? Madiha Doss, Cairo University

Afternoon Session

2:00 - 2:30 Remarks on the grammar of Arabic newspaper headlines
??? M. A. Mohammad, University of Florida

2:30 - 3:00 Reduced agreement as a specificity effect in rural
??? Palestinian Arabic
??? Frederick M. Hoyt, Cornell University

3:00 - 3:30 Recoverability, ambiguity and overt pronouns in Egyptian
??? Arabic Martha Schulte-Nafez, University of Texas at El Paso

3:30 - 4:00 Break

4:00-4:30 Reciprocals and Plurals in Arabic
??? Elabbas Benmamoun, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign

4:30-5:00 The mental representation of Arabic words
??? Jean-Francois Prunet, Universite du Quebec a? Montreal, Renee Beland,
??? Universit de Montreal, and Ali Idrissi, King Abdulaziz University


Alternates
An interdisciplinary approach to literary discourse analysis with
special reference to naguib mahfouzs construction of gender
Kamel A. Elsaadany, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Comparative and acquisition syntax of moroccan sign language and
signed Arabic
Mostafa Rechad, University of Paris


Registration Form

Name

Address

City/State Zip Country

Affiliation email address

Amount enclosed:

Preregistration (deadline: Feb. 16, 1999) $25. At the Door $30
Faculty & Students, Stanford University: Free

ALS 1999 Membership Dues:
Students $15, Faculty $25
?
Checks, drawn on US banks, or international money orders should be made
payable to the Arabic Linguistics Society and sent with registration forms to:
Tessa? Hauglid, 759 West 1800 North, West Bountiful, UT 84087, USA (email:
<mailto:tessa.hauglid at m.cc.utah.edu>tessa.hauglid at m.cc.utah.edu).

The symposium will be held at Stanford University, Stanford, California.
The Stanford Terrace Inn, 531 Stanford Avenue, Palo Alto, offers symposium
participants reduced rates: $115 single, $125 double (with 2 people
sharing a room and splitting the cost). Reservations may be made by
contacting the
hotel? directly at (650) 857-0333, or toll-free at (800) 729-0332, fax (650)
857-0343.? Mention group code 23272. The group rate will be honored if
reservations
are made before Feb. 5, 1999.?
?
The Creekside Inn, 3400 El Camino Real, Palo Alto, is also offering a
special rate of $125 single, $135 double for symposium
participants. Reservations may be made by calling (650) 493-2411 or
toll-free at (800) 492-7335. Mention group number BV0000. These rates apply
until Feb. 12, 1999.
?
At both hotels, mention the Arabic Linguistics Society to obtain?
conference rates. Both hotels offer shuttle service to campus.
Participants can take the Super Shuttle from the San Francisco Airport for?
around $20 to either hotel. Similar services are offered from the San Jose?
Airport.

Annual Symposium on Arabic Linguistics. An open forum for scholars
interested in the application of current
linguistic theories and analyses to Arabic

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan 22 16:54:48 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:54:48 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Adjectives modifying construct phrases
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1) Subject: Adjectives modifying construct phrases

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Date: 22 Jan 1999
From: Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject: Adjectives modifying construct phrases

Hi,

   If there are no objections I would like to do a poll of
"grammaticality" judgments. Please send all responses to me at
"andyf at umich.edu".  Also, if you could please include your native dialect
and what your linguistics training has been I would very much appreciate
it.

  Consider if you will the following construct phrase bening modified by
two adjectives:

   NOUN       NOUN      NOUN        NOUN         ADJ         ADJ
 farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati T-Tawiilati
  (the)brakes(f.nom) (the)car(f.gen.) (the)director(f.gen.)
the-company(f.gen) the-intelligent(f.gen) the-tall/long(f.gen)

  I can wring out at least two workable meanings:

  The brakes of the car of the tall intelligent director of the company
  The brakes of the long car of the intelligent director of the company
 * the brakes of the long intelligent car of the director of the company

 I have four questions.

  1) Does the current word order "work" for you.  If not what would you
     do to "fix it up?"

  2) If you were to insert the adjective "xarbaana", or "mu9aTTala",
     referring to the car's brakes, where in the above Arabic string would
     you put it?

     a. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati l-xarbaanati
        dh-dhakiyyati T-Tawiilati
     b. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati
        l-xarbaanati T-Tawiilati
     c. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati
        T-Tawiilati l-xarbaanati

  3) What is the likelihood of you ever uttering such a phrase
      where 0 = never and 10 = most comfortable way of expressing the idea
     "the broken brakes of the intelligent company director's long car"?

  4) What is the most comfortable way of expressing this meaning in your
     home dialect of Arabic?


  As soon as I compile any results I will, of course, post them back to
this list.

'alf shukr musbaqan

Andrew T. Freeman
Ph.D. student, Arabic Linguistics
The University of Michigan,
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

andyf at umich.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan 22 16:53:02 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:53:02 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: gestures CD rom
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1) Subject: gestures CD rom

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Date: 22 Jan 1999
From: Louis Boumans <louis.boumans at gironet.nl>
Subject: gestures CD rom

Dear collegues,

I remember that a couple of years ago someone posted a message about the
release of a CD ROM containing Egyptian gestures taken from TV series.
I've lost the note. Can anyone remind me of the reference?
Also any other reference on gestures in the middle eastern/north african
context is welcome.

Also, can anyone remind me of how to access the Arabic-L bibliography?

Thank you in advance, Louis

--
Louis Boumans
St. Janshovenstraat 20, 3572 RC Utrecht
tel/fax +31-30-271 33 85 Louis.Boumans at gironet.nl

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan 22 16:53:57 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:53:57 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Spanish Poetry Questions.
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1) Subject: Spanish Poetry Questions.

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1)
Date: 22 Jan 1999
From: djust at netvision.net.il
Subject: Spanish Poetry Questions.

1.  The Jewish poets of Medieval Spain frequently make a big
point in their poetry about wine-drinking, often in gardens.
Though some of them lived also in Christian Spain, most of them
belonged more to an Arabic/Islamic background.  Where would
they have found the prototypes for such poems, or such
behavior?
2.  R. Yehuda HaLevi starts out a poem (apparently addressing
the soul):
You who sleeps in the bosom of childhood, until when will you lie?
Know that youth is shaken off like sawdust!
Until when are the days of black hair?...
Vaguely reminiscent of the ubi sunt poems later popular farther
north.  Where would he have found a prototype in 10th-11th c.
Spain?

Thank you.
David Jonathan Justman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jan 22 16:55:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:55:17 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: Summer Programmes in Arabic
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1) Subject: Summer Programmes in Arabic

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Date: 22 Jan 1999
From: John Leake <jleake at shikar.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Summer Programmes in Arabic

Do any list members know of intensive Summer programmes in Arabic run in
the UK or overseas by UK universities?

Thanks

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 25 19:27:58 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:27:58 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Gestures CD response
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Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Michael Fishbein <FISHBEIN at HUMnet.UCLA.EDU>
Subject: Gestures CD response

The CD is entitled "Egyptian Arabic Gestures I & II." It was compiled by
Carolyn Killean and published by the Language Faculty Resource Center of
the University of Chicago. I ordered a copy several years ago from Peter
Patrikis, Executive Director, Consortium for Language Teaching and
Learning, 111 Grove Street, P.O. Box 208295, New Haven, CT 06520-8295
(telephone 203 432-0590, fax 203 432-0584, and e-mail:
peter_patrikis at QM.yale.edu.
********************
Michael Fishbein
Dept. of Near Eastern Languages & Cultures
University of California, Los Angeles
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1511

(310) 206-2229 (office, 389A Kinsey Hall))
(310) 206-6456 (fax)
fishbein at humnet.ucla.edu
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 25 19:39:17 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:39:17 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Spanish Poetry responses
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1) Subject: Sufi Poetry
2) Subject: Pre-Islamic influence
3) Subject: Hebrew Poems

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1)
Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Wail Hassan <w-hassan at wiu.edu>
Subject:

There is a substantial tradition of Sufi poetry in which there is frequent
use of wine as a motif, and where I believe the childhood metaphor in you
second question would be among a set of tropes describing the soul's
awakening to God. That poetry is mainly in Persian, and its best known
writers are Rumi (13th cen.) and Hafiz (14th cen.). My guess is that
Andalusian poets and mystics, whether Moslem or Jewish, would be familiar
with that tradition.

Wa?l Hassan
Assistant Professor
Department of English and Journalism
Western Illinois University
Macomb, IL 61455

(H) 309-833-3083
(W) 309-298-1112
Fax 309-298-2974

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Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Khalid AbdulSamad Draper <mujahid at gte.net>
Subject: Pre-Islamic influence

In the pre-Islamic period, the Arabs were known for their love of poetry.
In the early days of the US, they used to have soap box preachers who would
climb atop a soap box and deliver a sermon.  Much in the same manner, poets
fi 'Asri Jahiliyyah would go to places where wealthy merchants would be, and
compose poetry about them on the spot.  Much of this poetry would reference
how great the wealthy person's parties would be, and would therefore contain
much allusions to drinking and etc.

Even in the Islamic period, you will find particularlly among the ahl
tasawwuf (Rumi for one) analogous references made between the stupor one
experiences from being engulfed in the Divine Light, and the stupor that
comes from being completely drunk - the latter being a stupor of
purification of the soul of course, as opposed to the toxins of the
intoxicant.


Khalid

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Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: William Granara <granara at fas.harvard.edu>
Subject: Hebrew Poems

A good place to start is: Raymond Scheindlin, "Wine, Women and Death:
Medievel Hebrew Poems on the Good Life". Phila: The Jewish Publication
Society, 1986.
W. Granara

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 25 19:41:35 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:41:35 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Another Attack on academic freedom
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1) Subject: Another Attack on academic freedom

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1)
Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Taoufik Ben-Amor <tb46 at columbia.edu>
Subject: Another Attack on academic freedom

Dear Colleagues,

Recently, Samia Mehrez, Professor of Modern Arabic Literature at the
American University in Cairo came under attack for assigning to her class
the fictional autobiography of the Moroccan writer Muhammad Choukri,
AL-KUBZ AL-HAFI. This work is probably known to many of you as an important
and powerful text that has been translated into many languages (into
English by Paul Bowles under the title FOR BREAD ALONE). Several students
presumably complained to their parents about the "pornographic" content of
the novel. The parents brought the matter to the attention of a family
friend, who is the university  physician and who, in turn, brought it to
the attention of the President of AUC, presumably to hush up the matter
discreetly and spare AUC adverse publicity. On December 17, while teaching
her class, Professor Mehrez was whisked to the office of the President for
an impromptu meeting with the President, the Provost, the Dean, and the
said physician. In this meeting she was informed of the nature of the
charge against her and of the desire of the University to hush up the
matter by having her withdraw the book and apologize to the class for
assigning it. Professor Mehrez, a tenured professor and a highly respected
scholar of Modern Arabic Literature, declined to do either but expressed
willingness to exclude the novel, which she had already taught, from the
examination.

In the wake of this incident a public campaign was launched by some
Egyptian newspapers to discredit Professor Mehrez and to embarrass the
American University. One immediate consequence has been the removal from
the shelves of the AUC Bookstore of  works that are deemed by
self-appointed custodians of public morality as injurious to good taste.
Among these are  Sonallah Ibrahim's
THE SMELL OF IT and ALifa Rifaat's Distant View of a Minaret. In addition,
the committee for the core curriculum at AUC is now seriousely considering
removing
al-Tayyib Salih's novel Season of Migration to the North from its reading
list for this coming semester. Meantime, the campaign against Professor
Mehrez has grown steadily more vicious in the last few weeks, as she is
being charged now with sexual harassment for assigning "pornographic
material" to minors and forcing them to discuss it.

>>From all appearances, this is not merely a gross violation and infringement
of the academic rights of one professor of Arabic literature, grave and
unconscionable as that is, but a wholesale attack on the literary
imagination and on the very foundations of modern Arabic literature.  If it
is allowed to go unchecked, this eager censorship will ultimately consign
imaginative literature to the role of beautifying and consecrating the ugly
reality of violence, oppression, and injustice that prevail, alas, in much
of the contemporary Arab world.

We strongly urge all concerned colleagues to write directly to the
President of AUC to protest the campaign of terror and intimidation against
Professor Mehrez and to support the principles of academic freedom and a
liberal-arts education on which American universities stand, at home and
abroad.

Please email President Gerhart at jgerhart at aucegypt.edu, and cc. to Prof
Mehrez at samehrez at hotmail.com

If you prefer smail, the address is American University in Cairo, 113 Kasr
El Aini St., Cairo, Egypt.
If you need any more information on this matter, please feel free to
contact either one of us.
magda al-nowaihi                        muhammad siddiq
columbia university                     univ. of california, berkeley

Taoufik ben Amor, Columbia University
On behalf of Magda al-Nowaihi, Columbia University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 25 19:53:35 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:53:35 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Adjectives response
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1) Subject: Adjectives modifying construct phrases response

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1)
Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: waheed samy <w_samy at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Adjectives modifying construct phrases response

Hi Andy;

>
>  Consider if you will the following construct phrase bening modified by
>two adjectives:
>
>   NOUN       NOUN      NOUN        NOUN         ADJ         ADJ
> farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati T-Tawiilati

>  (the)brakes(f.nom) (the)car(f.gen.) (the)director(f.gen.)
>the-company(f.gen) the-intelligent(f.gen) the-tall/long(f.gen)
>
>  I can wring out at least two workable meanings:
>
>  The brakes of the car of the tall intelligent director of the company
>  The brakes of the long car of the intelligent director of the company
> * the brakes of the long intelligent car of the director of the company
>
> I have four questions.
>
>  1) Does the current word order "work" for you.  If not what would you
>     do to "fix it up?"

The sentence is a bit contrived.
The sentence is too long, for it to work I would throw out the
adjectives.

>
>  2) If you were to insert the adjective "xarbaana", or "mu9aTTala",
>     referring to the car's brakes, where in the above Arabic string would
>     you put it?
>
>     a. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati l-xarbaanati
>        dh-dhakiyyati T-Tawiilati
>     b. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati
>        l-xarbaanati T-Tawiilati
>     c. farmalatu sayyaarati mudiiirati sh-sharikati dh-dhakiyyati
>        T-Tawiilati l-xarbaanati

I would not accept any of the above alternatives.

>
>  3) What is the likelihood of you ever uttering such a phrase
>      where 0 = never and 10 = most comfortable way of expressing the idea
>     "the broken brakes of the intelligent company director's long car"?
>


0

>  4) What is the most comfortable way of expressing this meaning in your
>     home dialect of Arabic?


In Egyptian Colloquial Arabic (ECA), I would use a gumla 'ismiyya (mubtada'
and x at b@r) whose x at b@r is a gumla 'ismiyya


mubtada':   mudirt ishshirka, illi hiyya nn at CHa TT at wiila dahiyyan
x at b@r :     f at rm@lt il3 at r@biyya pta3itha b at yZ@

In Arabic (1256):
????? ??????? ???? ???? ??????? ??????? ?????? ????? ??????? ??????? ?????


Waheed

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jan 25 20:03:16 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:03:16 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: Summer Programmes in Arabic
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1) Subject: 1/2/4-week courses in ARABIC -SOAS LC UK
2) Subject: Summer Programmes in Arabic response

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Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Sherin AbdelHalim <sa15 at soas.ac.uk>
Subject: 1/2/4-week courses in ARABIC -SOAS LC UK

In addition to regular courses in Arabic, the Language Centre at SOAS, UK
is offering the following 1/2/4-week intensive courses in Arabic (Modern
Standard Arabic & Egyptian Colloquial):

*	One-week Courses:	22nd-26th March 1999

*	Two-week Courses:	6th-19th April 1999

*	Four-week Courses:	5th - 30th/7/1999
			2nd - 27th/8/1999
ENQUIRIES:
Please address enquiries to:
      The Courses Secretary
      The Language Centre
      School of Oriental and African Studies
      Thornhaugh Street
      Russell Square
      LONDON
      WC1H OXG
Telephone:
      UK: 0171 323 6379
      World: +44 171 323 6379
Fax:
      UK: 0171 637 7355
      World: +44 171 637 7355
E-mail: languages at soas.ac.uk
http://endjinn.soas.ac.uk/Centres/LanguageCentre
.................................................

Sherin Abdel-Halim
Co-ordinator of Arabic Language Courses
Language Centre, SOAS, University of London
Tel UK:  0171 691 3445	World:  +44 171 691 3445
Fax UK:  0171 637 7355	World:  +44 171 637 7355
Check our Language Centre Arabic courses at:
http://www.soas.ac.uk/centres/languagecentre/arabic

..........................................................................
Sherin Abdel Halim
Co-ordinator of Arabic Language Courses
Language Centre, SOAS, University of London
Tel UK:  0171 323 6379	World:  +44 171 323 6379
Fax UK:  0171 637 7355	World:  +44 171 637 7355

Check our Language Centre Arabic courses at:
http://www.soas.ac.uk/centres/languagecentre/arabic

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Date: 25 Jan 1999
From: Taoufik Ben-Amor <tb46 at columbia.edu>
Subject: Summer Programmes in Arabic

Dear John,

Few years ago, i believe i saw some information about a summer program in
SOAS (School of Oriental and African Studies) at the University of London.

Taoufik ben Amor
Columbia University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 27 17:10:23 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:10:23 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Algerian Music
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Date: 27 Jan 1999
From: Bonnie <bonniedb at nac.net>
Subject: Algerian Music

I'm writing a screenplay in which there is mention of a piece of music
(Algerian  rai).
The title of the piece is "koubou-koubou" which I assume is an Arabic
word. It's important to me to know what the word "koubou" means. Perhaps
it's a name?

I'd appreciate any help you can give me.

Thanks very much.

Bonnie

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 27 17:13:45 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:13:45 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: Intensive Summer Arabic at Penn
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Date: 27 Jan 1999
From: Mary Martin <marym at mec.sas.upenn.edu>
Subject: Intensive Summer Arabic at Penn

Summer Intensive Elementary Arabic
Summer Session 1:  May 17th-June 25th, 1999.
The University of Pennsylvania

This an intensive, full year course in Modern Standard Arabic, the Arabic
used in formal discourse in the contemporary Arab world.  Upon successful
completion of the course, students will be able to read and understand
texts on familiar topics, carry on simple conversations, and engage in
 basic written correspondence.  The course will cover the same material as
Penn's year-long Elementary Arabic course (AMES 030), and will prepare
students for Penn's second-year course, Intermediate Arabic (AMES 031).


 If there is interest, graduate students studying medieval Islamic
 civilization or comparative Semitic studies will be introduced to
 bibliographic tools for the study of early and classical Arabic.

For more information, contact the Penn Language Center at
plc at ccat.sas.upenn.edu  or  (215) 898-6039.



--
Mary Martin
Assistant Director
Middle East Center
838 Williams Hall
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, PA 19104-6305
(215) 898 4690
Fax: (215) 573 2003
email: marym at mec.sas.upenn.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 27 17:14:39 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:14:39 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Spanish Poetry response
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Date: 27 Jan 1999
From: John Leake <jleake at shikar.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Spanish Poetry

Dear David,

You could also look at Abu Nuwaas (d. 803), the half-Persian Arab poet
whose drinking songs are well known and not at a mystical (Shemu'el
ha-Nagid's don't seem too mystical either!).

John L.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 27 17:16:55 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:16:55 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Arab poets
Message-ID: <WED.27.JAN.1999.101655.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 27 Jan 1999
From: Wail Hassan <w-hassan at wiu.edu>
Subject: Arab poets

Does anyone know the answer to any or all of the following questions?

1. When was Salah Abdel Sabur awarded the State Prize for Literature?

2. What disease caused Ibrahim Tuqan's untimely death?

3. Does Ahmad Abdel Mu'ti Hijazi teach at Cairo University? If not, what is
his current position?

4. Where does Abdel Wahab al-Bayyati live?

5. Where does Sa'id 'Aql live now?

This information is needed to complete biographical sketches of modern Arab
poets. Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated and properly
acknowledged.

Wa?l Hassan
Assistant Professor
Department of English and Journalism
Western Illinois University
Macomb, IL 61455

(H) 309-833-3083
(W) 309-298-1112
Fax 309-298-2974

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jan 27 17:16:12 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:16:12 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: afro-asiatic linguistics
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Date: 27 Jan 1999
From: David Wilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: afro-asiatic linguistics

a colleague is looking for a simple reference on afro-asiatic
linguistics for his students to read by way of introduction/overview of
the subject.

can anyone supply me with any?

thanks

David Wilmsen
Director, Arabic and Translation Studies Division
American University in Cairo

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:28:54 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:28:54 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: afro-asiatic linguistics response
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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: Petr.Zemanek at ff.cuni.cz
Subject: afro-asiatic linguistics response

Funny enough, at least to my knowledge, there are not that many titles as
one might think. Here are some overviews:

Afroasiatic; a survey., Edited by Carleton T. Hodge.
The Hague, Mouton, 1971. 130 p. 26 cm. fl25.00
Series title: Janua linguarum : Series practica ; 163

A basic survey, outdated nowadays, but gives the general
overview. Another copy of this can be found also in
Current Trends in Linguistics (ed. by T.A.Sebeok), Vol. 6,
Linguistics in South West Asia and North Africa. Mouton,
Hague - Paris 1970.

Afrasian languages /, I.M. Diakonoff ; [translated
from the Russian by A.A. Korolev and V.Ya. Porkhomovsky].
Nauch. izd. Moscow : Nauka, Central Dept. of Oriental
Literature, 1988. 141, [3] p. ; 22 cm.
Series title: Languages of Asia and Africa,
Languages of Asia and Africa (Institut vostokovedeniia
(Akademiia nauk SSSR))

A very good, but does not give much about individual
language families.

Semito-Hamitic languages; an essay in classification,
[by] I. M. Diakonoff. Moscow, Nauka, Central Dept. of
Oriental Literature, 1965. 121, [3] p. fold. map. 22 cm.
Series title: Languages of Asia and Africa

The predecessor of the above title.

If German is also acceptable, then you should choose
the respective passages in Die Sprachen Afrikas (ed. by
B. Heine, T.C. Schadeberg and E. Wolff), Buske, Hamburg 1981.
This title gives a very good overview, and it's meant as
a teaching book, so possibly the best solution...

There is also a title in Czech (Karel Petracek: Uvod do
hamitosemitske (afroasijske) jazykovedy (Introduction
to Hamito-Semitic [Afro-Asiatic] linguistics), Praha 1990,
but I don't think that's really an option...

Hope this helps.

Petr Zemanek

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:15:45 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:15:45 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: Chicago 1999 Summer Program
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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: "Kenneth J. Garden" <summer-arabic at uchicago.edu>
Subject: 1999 University of Chicago Intensive Summer Arabic Program

The 1999 University of Chicago
Intensive Summer Arabic Program
June 21-August 20

The University of Chicago is pleased to announce its 1999 Intensive Summer
Arabic Program from June 21-August 20.  For application materials or to ask
further questions about the program, please write to :
Ken Garden
Intensive Summer Arabic Program
Center for Middle Eastern Studies
The University of Chicago
5828 University Avenue
Chicago, IL 60637

summer-arabic at uchicago.edu

The Program
Instruction in Modern Standard Arabic will be offered at five levels:
Elementary, Intermediate, High Intermediate, Advanced and, this year for
first time, a new fifth year course, Reading the Classical Texts.  For the
first three levels, the primary textbooks will be the EMSA books published
by the University of Michigan.  Some instructors will supplement these with
the al-Kitaab books by Brustad, al-Batal and al-Tonsi.  Additionally, the
Intermediate and High Intermediate classes will supplement the textbooks
with reading materials.  The Advanced level will concentrate on reading
selections and advanced grammar.  Reading the Classical Texts will focus on
reading the Qur'an, Hadith, Tafsir, fiqh and other texts from the classical
period.  The exact selection of readings for these latter two courses will
be determined in part by student interest.  Elective courses may be offered
in addition to the above mentioned courses depending on student interest.
In addition to classroom instruction, there will be weekly lectures in
Arabic (the Arabic circle) and English on topics related to the Middle East
by leading experts in the field.  Additionally there will be
extra-curricular activities that will give students additional opportunity
to use their Arabic.  These include drama, poetry, story-telling, debate,
and newspaper groups.

Credit, Tuition, and Fees
Each of the five levels consists of one year's (three quarters') study of
Arabic and earns a full year's credit under either the Quarter or Semester
system.  Tuition for the full (three quarter) sequence will be $4704
(subject to slight increase).  Students attending Committee on
Institutional Cooperation (CIC) member universities pay tuition rates of
their home institutions.  Students will be assessed University Health
Service and Student Activities fees and, if they lack a personal insurance
plan, a Student Health Insurance Fee.

Note that there are several NON-CREDIT options available for a
significantly reduced tuition.  Information about these options can be sent
to those who inquire.

Scholarships
Thanks in part to a generous grant from the Mellon Foundation, a number of
scholarships for full or partial tuition and/or living accommodations will
be available to qualified applicants on a merit basis.  To be considered
for financial aid, request a scholarship application and return it with
supporting materials by April 15, 1999 to the program address given above.
Notification of awards will be made in early May.
Intensive Summer Arabic courses are also open to students via the Committee
on Institutional Cooperation (CIC) Traveling Scholar Program, and Foreign
Language Enhancement Program (FLEP) fellowship awards.  The CIC application
deadline is April 15. Please note that CIC students mush register through
their home institutions.  For more information about CIC and FLEP, contact
the CIC office at your institution.  Foreign Language Area Studies
(FLAS/Title VI)awards also may be applied.

To apply for a scholarship you will need:
1)Undergraduate or Graduate transcript
2)Two letters of recommendation, including one from your advisor and one
from current or previous Arabic instructor or, if you have not yet studied
Arabic, instructor of another language or, if you have not studied another
language, any other professor.
3)A statement of no more than one page describing the relevance of Arabic
to your academic professional or personal goals.
4)A tentative budget, including expenses likely to be incurred and other
sources of support available to you or for which you have applied.
5)A $35 application fee.  This fee need not be paid if you have ever
applied to the University of Chicago in the past.

Accommodations
Participants are encouraged to reside in University Housing selected for
the program.  The program can also forward advertisements for sublets
posted on the University of Chicago's web site and accessible only within
the University domain to students who request them.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:11:31 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:11:31 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: PEDA: AUC Summer 1999
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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: Waheed Samy <w_samy at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: AUC Summer 1999 intensive announcement

1999 SUMMER DATES

June 6 (Sunday)            Registration and Placement Exams
June 7 (Monday)           Orientation
June 9 (Wednesday)    Classes Begin
July 27 (Tuesday)          Last day of classes (end of July)
July 28 (Wednesday)    Final exams

Cost: US $ 2620 Level Egyptian Colloquial Modern Standard Electives Cultural
            Offerings
            Elementary  Monday-Thursday
            8 - 10 Sunday - Wednesday
            10:30 - 12:30 Sunday - Wednesday
            1:30 - 2:45 Twice a week
            3-4
            Intermediate  Monday-Thursday
            8 - 10 Sunday - Wednesday
            10:30 - 12:30 Sunday - Wednesday
            1:30 - 2:45 Twice a week
            3-4
            Advanced  Monday-Thursday
            8 - 10 Sunday - Wednesday 10:30 - 12:30 Sunday - Wednesday
            1:30 - 2:45 Twice a week
            3-4
Egyptian Colloquial
The language of every day interaction and daily living.
Modern Standard
The language of the media, literature, science, and fields of knowledge.
Electives
Translation, modern literature, newspapers, The Koran, writing, grammar,
economics; and others.
Cultural Offerings and Trips
Caligraphy, music, singing, cooking; and  dance.


The following are your contact addresses:
Address in Egypt Address in America
            The Arabic Language Institute
            The American University in Cairo
            113 Kasr El Aini street
            P.O.Box 2511
            Cairo 11511
            Egypt
            Tel:  3575055
            Fax: 3557565
            alu at aucegypt.edu  The American University in Cairo
            420 Fifth Avenue
            3rd Floor
            New York, New York 10018-2729
            USA
            Attn: Mrs. Mary Davidson
            Tel:  (212) 730-8800
            Fax: (212) 730-1600
            aucegypt at aucnyo.edu

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Waheed Samy
The American University in Cairo
+202 357 5039
w_samy at aucegypt.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:13:06 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:13:06 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LIT: Arab poets response
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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: "Chouairi, R. MR           DFL" <GR6548 at exmail.usma.army.mil>
Subject: Arab poets response

Dear Friend
Saiid Akl live now in Beirut in his appartment in the Badaro
neighborhood.   I saw him last year and we spoke at length about many
topics.   He is teaching a class at a University and writing for
Al-SafIr.  We spoke about many topics mainely the differences between
his style in prose and the styles of Ameen al-Reehani and Saiid Taqi al
Deen 2 people that we both immensely admire.

				Rajaa Chouairi
			               Abu Fouad

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:06:47 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:06:47 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: GEN: Algerian Music response
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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: "Dr Salah D. Hammoud, 333-4580" <HammoudSD.DFF.USAFA at usafa.af.mil>
Subject: Algerian Music

Re: "Koubou"

Without knowing the song or at least the words in the lyrics which
immediately follow, it is hard to tell.  But I suspect "koubou" is the
plural form of the imperative "koub" meaning "pour!" as in pour the tea!

Salah.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jan 28 18:05:08 1999
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:05:08 -0700
Subject: ARABIC-L: LING: Ba9labakk, Ma9diikarib
Message-ID: <THU.28.JAN.1999.110508.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 28 Jan 1999
From: hdavies at aucegypt.edu
Subject: Ba9labakk, Ma9diikarib

According to Wright's Grammar (1951), Vol. 1, p.108B, a "mixed compound
proper name"(ism 9alam murakkab majzi) such as Ba9labakk or Ma9diikarib
is formed of  two or more ordinary words.  Can someone tell me, what are
the component words of each of the preceeding; and who or what is
Ma9diikarib?

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