From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:52:40 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:52:40 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:JAIS Announcements
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1) Subject: JAIS Announcement: Szyska article
2) Subject: JAIS Announcement: Simpson article

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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Joseph Norment Bell <joseph.bell at msk.uib.no>
Subject: JAIS Announcement

JOURNAL OF ARABIC AND ISLAMIC STUDIES
http://www.uib.no/jais
http://enlil.ff.cuni.cz/jais

The final Adobe Acrobat version of Christian Szyska's article "Desire and
Denial: Sacred and Profane Spaces in 'Abd al-Hamid Jawdat al-Sahhar's Novel
_In the Caravan of Time_" in vol. 2, 1998-99 has been posted at our
Norwegian site along with a hastily corrected HTML version.

Joseph Bell

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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Joseph Norment Bell <joseph.bell at msk.uib.no>
Subject: JAIS Announcement

JOURNAL OF ARABIC AND ISLAMIC STUDIES
http://www.uib.no/jais
http://enlil.ff.cuni.cz/jais

The pre-publication version of Erica Sapper Simpson's article "Islam in
Uzbekistan: Why Freedom of Religion is Fundamental for Peace and Security in
the Region" has been posted to the Norwegian site today.

ABSTRACT: This paper is dedicated to the people in Uzbekistan, known and
unknown, whose future depends on peace and stability in the region. I wrote
this paper with two different readers in mind: for the first reader, this
paper provides an introduction to the current struggle in Uzbekistan between
the traditional values of the non-governmental form of Islam and the modern
values of the secular government; for the second reader, who is familiar
with this struggle, this paper presents and defends one side of the
debat--the traditional values of the independent form of Islam. A discussion
of the dilemma posed by this struggle, which is common in many emerging
nations, is beyond the purpose of this paper. In the interest of fairness,
however, a response would be in order on the problems faced by a newly
emerging government with a predominantly Muslim population with the
different trends and the varying degrees of fervor and activism one is
witness to in such populations. In other words, the current Uzbek regime
should also be evaluated in terms of realpolitik. In this way, both sides of
the Uzbek question might be revealed for all interested readers.

Joseph N. Bell

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:50:26 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:50:26 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Greetings Query
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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Benjamin Troutman <troutmab at gusun.georgetown.edu>
Subject: Greetings Query

As most of us know, Arabs, in general, have an elaborate way of greeting
each another.  Could anyone suggest authors and studies on this discourse
phenomenon, specifically in terms of "rules" for conversational
turn-taking?

My question comes after looking at the Conversation Analysis
approach (Sacks, Schegloff, & Jefferson 1974).

all the best,

Benjamin Troutman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:49:46 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:49:46 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Translation of terms query
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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Ali Hussin <ahussin at study.haifa.ac.il>
Subject: Translation of terms query

Dear all,

Could any one tell me what is the exact translation of the following three
terms into English?
Those terms are:

- Gharad/Aghrad (al-garad al-shi'ri in classical Arabic poetry. For
example: the Nasib or the Madih)

- Fikra/Afkar (al-fikra al-shi'riyya in classical Arabic poetry. For
example: the Nasib contains a lot of Afkar, as: the mouth of the
beloved girl is sweeter than the honey, or it is more delicious than the
wine etc...)

 - Ma'na/Ma'ani (al-ma'na al-shi'ri in classical Arabic poetry. For
example: the Fikra that the mouth of the beloved girl is more delicious
than the wine contains Ma'ani as: this wine was made in a place called
Adhru'at or in Andar, this wine is very expensive, the wine's color is
red, this wine is mixed with water, the mouth of the beloved girl is more
delicious than this wine just at the night, etc... )

I would be also very thankful if any one is ready to send me
further information about sources (books or articles in English, Hebrew,
Arabic or German) that deal with this matter.

Yours,
Ali Hussein
Dept. of Arabic Language & Lit.
University of Haifa
Tel:972-4-8240075,
Fax: 972-4-8249710
E-mail: ahussin at study.haifa.ac.il
Haifa, Israel, 31905

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:47:38 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:47:38 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Yarmouk $ update
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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Mohammed Sawaie <ms at virginia.edu>
Subject: Yarmouk $ update

Dear Colleagues:

I trust this finds you well as the academic year is winding down.  I just
want to bring your attention that the UVA-Yarmouk Program is enjoying
another year of Federal funds.  Please encouarge your students who have
done two or more years of Arabic to apply to our Program as they will
receive generous financial aid.

The application deadline is April 7.  Students can download the application
forms by visiting our web site:

http://www.virginia.edu/~arabic/yarmuk_program.htm

If you have any questions, Plse don't hesitate to contact me.  Cheers,

Mohammed

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:46:52 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:46:52 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Diglossia Response
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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: zeinabib <zeinabib at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Diglossia Response

> The American U. of Cairo Press recently published a book (may be more of a
> compendium) about Arabic diglossia and colloquials.

I have checked at the AUC bookstore and press people and they know nothing
about this book.  Most probably it is the book "Understanding Arabic" as it
includes Ferguson's article.
shukran,Zeinab.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:45:30 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:45:30 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Dialect Confidence
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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Benjamin Troutman <troutmab at gusun.georgetown.edu>
Subject: Dialect Confidence

>   What is "dialect confidence"?

dialect confidence is the ability to say 'gamel 'abdul nasr' instead of
the way 'it should be'...
dialect confidence is the ability to say that, as the maltese will say,
'we are NOT a dialect of arabic.'

all the best,

benjamin

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr  6 18:11:10 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:11:10 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:MT Query
Message-ID: <THU.6.APR.2000.111110.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 06 Apr 2000
From: Yaser Al-Onaizan <yaser at ISI.EDU>
Subject: MT Query

Greetings all,

I'm looking for a good Arabic <-> English machine translation software that is
not too expensive. I searched the internet and found three:

1. Al-Wafi for $89.
2. Al-mutarjim al-arabi for $699
3. ArabTrans 2.0 (for 170 Sterling pounds).

Did any of you use any of them (or anything similar)? If so, could you please
comment on how useful or how good/bad it is/was.


Thanks,
Yaser

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr  6 18:08:20 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:08:20 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Translation of Terms Response
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Date: 06 Apr 2000
From: Wail Hassan <w-hassan at wiu.edu>
Subject: Translation of Terms Response

A rough equivalent of Gharad/Aghrad would be "authorial intention" in
English literary terminology. I would render Fikra/Afkar as "stock images"
or "conventional images/symbols". I can't think of an equivalent of
Ma'na/Ma'ani  except perhaps "associations".


>I would be also very thankful if any one is ready to send me
>further information about sources (books or articles in English, Hebrew,
>Arabic or German) that deal with this matter.

I know there is a tri-lingual dictionary (Arabic/English/French) of
literary terms by, if I remember correctly, Magdi Wahba.

Wail Hassan

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr  6 18:09:59 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:09:59 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Cultural Artifacts Query
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Date: 06 Apr 2000
From: "Kenneth K. Ayouby" <sm-kka at visitus.net>
Subject: Cultural Artifacts Query

Salaam Everyone,
 
If one is to teach Arab cultural artifacts in the AFL classroom, what would
one include in such a curriculum? I am an AFL teacher and I am interested
in learning from all and anyone who share this list the things they would
include/teach. Perhaps we can  generate a discussion about the elements of
such a "curriculum"and how best to present it.
 
Best Regards,
 
Kenneth K. Ayouby

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:24:33 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:24:33 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:URL with Arabic Poetry
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: Heba Aboul-Enein <haboulenein at hotmail.com>v
Subject: URL with Arabic Poetry

       Greetings. To those who are interested, the following site has a
good collection of Classical Arabic poetry:

www.cultural.org.ae

Dr. Heba Aboul-Enein

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:17:56 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:17:56 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:Machine Translation Responses
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: J.Schneider at epixtech.com
Subject: Machine Translation Response

Another translation tool is Universal Translator 2000 from LanguageForce.
You can find them at http:\\www.languageforce.com.
Their level 1 product doesn't handle grammar changes and their level 2
product isn't yet available for Arabic.  They are fairly low cost and can
handle multiple languages as well as text-to-speech.

Wayne S.

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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: sakhrus at erols.com
Subject: Machine Translation Response

You might find it useful to access the free lexicons and dictionaries on
Sakhr's Websites.  You will need to either use Internet Explorer 5.x or
Sindbad to view the Arabic at:
	www.lexicons.sakhr.com    	or
	www.literary.sakhr.com

DIGITEK INTERNATIONAL

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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: sakhrus at erols.com
Subject: Machine Translation Response

You will probably find that most cheaper "translation" programs are
simply parallel dictionaries and leave you with a great deal of
post-editing, including word order and word choice problems.  On recent
tests, Al-Mutarjim and Al-Wafi got accuracy socres in the 40th
percentile.  Al-Nakheel did little better.  The Universal Translator was
even lower.

If you are going to do regular translation with the Arabic-English
translation pair, you would be better advised to buy aa translation
memory program and build your own specific domain memories with which to
translate.

DIGITEK INTERNATIONAL

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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: GnhBos at aol.comv
Subject: Machine Translation Response

Akh Yaser,

Please note that most, if not ALL, Arabic translation software
requires MS Arabic Windows. I know about the above, because
we sell them. AL-Wafi is an extremely inferior product, I wouldn't
use it. Al Mutarjim Al Arabey would have been good if we are still
using MS Arabic Windows 95, it is NOT fully functional with the
new Windows. The company was sold, and I am not sure how their
technical support will be affected.

There are two superior products, Sakhr's CAT Translator and An-Nakel.
Both are Bidirectional translators, none of the above is bi-di. An-Nakel
is also available in single direction translation. In my opinion, bi-di is
the
way to go. For more information, go to our machine translation webpage:

http://aramedia.com/aschome.htm

Sakhr's CAT* Translator Trainable for Arabic Windows is $1999.00
An-Nakel* Bidirectional Translation Software Ar-En-Ar $995.00
An-Nakel* One Way Arabic to English Translation Software $695.00
An-Nakel* One Way English to Arabic Translation Software $595.00
Easy Lingo, Instant Translator English-Arabic. ANY Win 95/98/NT $25.00
(*) Requires MS Arabic Windows.

You are welcome to contact me, directly, for more information.


Best Regards,

George N. Hallak
AramediA Group
761 Adams Street
Boston, MA 02122, USA

http://www.aramedia.com
mailto:info at aramedia.com
T 617-825-3044 F 265-9648

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:19:57 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:19:57 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Cultural Artifacts Responses
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>v
Subject: Cultural Artifacts Response

some things you can use:

a newspaper, a magazine, a shiisha; bring in a dish, bread; perhaps music;
cartoons; a cactus; incense, perfumes; a map; pictures, jewellery; crafts;
spices;
musical instruments; a poem or two....

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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: djust at netvision.net.il
Subject: Cultural Artifacts Response

I bet that what you are going to get is a list of everyone's
individual prejudices.  Having said that, you might as well get mine.
 Don't forget:

1.  A lot of the Koran.  But that's too obvious for words, I guess.
2.  The Abbasid historians.  My first contact with them, in fact, was
in AFL.  They are entertaining (very important in the classroom),
important in themselves in the history of Arabic culture, and
important as historical sources.
3.  Medieval lyric poetry.  Always a good teaching tool in a foreign
language.  And never underestimate dual-language editions as a
teaching tool.
4.  Selections from modern Arabic political writings CHOSEN FOR THEIR
RHETORICAL VALUE.
5.  The Medieval Aristoteleans.  If you look a little below the
surface, their influence on all of human culture West of China has
been absolutely shocking, and I suspect that they're not much harder
for speakers of English to understand than for speakers of Arabic.

Good luck.
David

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:20:56 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:20:56 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Computational Linguistics Query
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: Mohamed Noamany <mfn at cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: Computational Linguistics Queryv

Dear Colleagues,
	I am searching for books on Arabic computational linguistics,
Modern books on Arabic morphology and Arabic Syntax.
Any advices will be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Mohamed Farouk Noamany,
Ph.D. student,
New Mexico State University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:21:49 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:21:49 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Sukuun in Quran Query
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: "Dr. Stefan Weninger" <Stefan.Weninger at lrz.uni-muenchen.de>
Subject: Sukuun in Quran Query

Dear collegues,

in the quasi-official Qur'aan-edition of al-Azhar the sign for sukuun is
different from that employed in ordinary texts. Its shape is rather
flat, it is open at the left side and has an edge at the right side. In
the appendix to the edition it is stated, that this sign is the head of
a small khaa' without dot. Graphically this makes perfectly sense, but
my problem is: Why is the letter khaa' used? What is the abbreviated
word? Any ideas?

Sincerely,
Stefan Weninger

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:23:14 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:23:14 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:jiim as giim in Al-Kitaab Query
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: Benjamin Troutman <troutmab at gusun.georgetown.edu>v
Subject: jiim as giim in Al-Kitaab Query

When I asked my t.a. why I heard the jeem as a [geem] again and again in
one of the reading passages in 'al-kitab part two', she said that there
are more that one 'm.s.a's.  Is there such a thing as modern standard
arabic dialectology?!?!  Or is it the confidence of the Egyptian dialect?

all the best,

Benjamin David Troutman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 19:18:26 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:18:26 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic/English Cookbook Query
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: "David C. Reisman" <david.reisman at yale.edu>
Subject: Arabic/English Cookbook Query

Greetings,

A student of mine (first year Arabic) asked me if there were such a
creature as an Arabic-English cookbook, which she described as
containing Arabic recipes with (facing?) English translations, as she
has a "fascination with food." I would prefer that the Arabic of such
a book were in Arabic script (to help improve her reading skills) and
not transliterated, but will settle for anything.  Any thoughts?

Regards,

David C. Reisman
Yale University

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:17:27 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Bookstrores in Munich Query
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: Tim Buckwalter <tbuckwalter at tegic.com>
Subject: Bookstrores in Munich Queryv

I have a question for al-ikhwaan al-almaan on this list:

I'm looking for some good bookstores in Munich where I might buy modern
Arabic dictionaries (especially Schregle's unfinished magnum opus). All I
can find on the web are a few addresses
 (http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~wwn/bookstores.html ) (the link to Obelisk is
broken)
but I don't know if they would carry contemporary Arabic dictionaries.
Do you know of any bookstores to recommend? If they don't have in stock the
dictionaries that I want I assume I can still make my purchase and haver the
books shipped to me here in the US.
I'll be in Munich April 17-18 (staying at the Marriott).

Thanks!

Tim Buckwalter
Senior Language Engineer
Tegic Communications

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 12 18:37:06 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:37:06 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Cookbook Response
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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: "Chouairi, R. MR           DFL" <GR6548 at exmail.usma.army.mil>
Subject: Cookbook Response

Dear Sir
Although I do not know of the existence of an Arabic-English cookbook, there
is a great and an accurate translation of chef Georges Rayess classical
cookbook: al-maTbakh al-lubnAAny, under: "the Art of Lebanese Cooking" by
Najla Showker- Librairie du Liban ( mother of Selwa "Lucky" Roosevelt,
ex-chief of protocol of the Reagan White house).  You could get both books
from Librairie Antoine in Beirut and compare them.  The translation is to
the word.  The late Georges Rayess ( ex-chef at the Bristol and at Byblos
during the grands jours of Beirut) is regarded as the Arab Escoffier and was
the founder of the Lebanese famed al-madrassah al-funduquiah which redefined
much of the Arab cooking as we know it today.  His book is still by far the
best cookbook (and the oldest) covering middle-eastern and classical French
cooking.  Only the middle-eastern section is translated.  I hope this will
help your student.
Rajaa Chouairi
West Point

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 12 18:41:32 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:41:32 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Shawqi Dayf query
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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: Dil <dil at byu.edu>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf query

Someone directed me to the Sharq AlAwsat article on the current session of
the language academy in Cairo at:

http://www.asharqalawsat.com/aaasumframe/pc/art/welcome.html

which contains a quote by Shawqi Dayf.  I know I should know, but can
someone fill me in on exactly who he is, what his background is, and what
his status in Egypt and Arab society is?  Thanks.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 12 19:07:16 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:07:16 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab responses
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6) Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: Tim Buckwalter <tbuckwalter at tegic.com>
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

Benjamin:

This issue (and many others) are discussed in much detail in a book by Clive
Holes:
"Modern Arabic: Structures, Functions and Varieties." (London: Longman,
1994).
I highly recommend it.

Tim Buckwalter

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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

There are indeed several Arabics of all flavors.  The differences
are especially clear in the sounds.  Modern standard Arabic is influenced
by colloquials.

Waheed

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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: Muallam at aol.comv
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

I would dismiss that as Egyptian confidence.

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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

The term "dialect" as it was originally used referred to the regional
variations in literary Greek.  So, in that sense, a dialectology of MSA is
quite appropriate.

I have just returned from Morocco where I have noticed a difference in the
lexis of the Arabic of newspapers.

There is a small body of work done with regional variations in MSA (and I
indeed do like to call them dialects of MSA - I think we as a profession ought
to adopt the term), mostly done by Dil Parkinson and Zeinab Ibrahim (or at
least so far as I am aware).

Dr. David Wilmsen

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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: aziz abbassi <moustique51 at hotmail.com>v
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

Strictly speaking, there can only be ONE MSA.
Your TA may be speaking about the surface realization of the same 'sound
system' by different groups of speakers (i.e., at the level of
"langue-parole" dichotomy). I am not sure whether this teacher is aware of
this phenomenon nicely addressed by Ibn Khaldun in his Muqaddimah way before
de Saussure and Chomsky -- of course.
And It seems to me though that the 'slips' found in  al-Kitab by the
Egyptian narrator(s) would not be encountered if the person(s) were to
read/recite Quranic verses.

On the other hand if your TA is an avid 'dialectologist' or a sociolinguist,
then they are speaking a different language altogether
--no pun intended-- The question to ask perhaps (the TA and the
'traditionists') is: when are these MSA's (or dialects) going to demand
their independence at last?
Aziz Abbassi

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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

>>From an ideological point of view, there is no MSA dialectology by
definition.  From a sociolinguistic point of view, there are some
(admittedly minor, but still salient) differences in the ways MSA is used
in various countries, at least on the phonological and lexical levels.
>>From a pedogogical point of view, the question is one of authenticity, and
exposing students to what they are going to encounter when they are thrown
into real-life Arabic.  Even if one limits oneself and one's students
entirely to MSA (say to news broadcasts), even a little experience in the
Middle East will bring up rampant variability in the ways certain phonemes
are pronounced and the way certain words are used.  In Egypt you don't JUST
here /giim/ in news broadcasts, and you don't JUST hear /jiim/.  You hear
them both.  No matter what one makes of this from the ideological or
sociolinguistic (or other) points of view (dismissing might be appropriate
there) it certainly doesn't seem very appropriate to dismiss this
phenomenon from the pedagogical point of view.  How long can we keep this
from our students?  Should we insist that they never travel to the Middle
East or listen to authentic broadcasts so as to protect them from this kind
of mixed performance?
Certainly dialect confidence plays a role in the use of /g/ for /j/ in
Egyptian MSA, but a look at any of the mass of sociolinguistic data from
the last few decades indicates that the situation is a good deal more
complicated than that. (If nothing else, the whole idea of dialect
confidence only comes up in a cross-dialectal context.  For many Egyptians,
this variable situation is just the way it is, and would never be conceived
of as having anything to do with how Arabs from other regions perceive
them.  Matched guise experiements have demonstrated that for many Egyptians
the /g/ pronunciation is not heard as 'colloquial influence' but rather as
an acceptable, less religiously oriented fusha pronunciation of the
phoneme.)  Further, it would be a mistake to not look at similar variable
phenomena in the spoken MSA of other areas, most specifically the use of
/zh/ for /j/, variably of course, in newscasts from many parts of the Arab
World.  There are frankly many features of many dialects which locally
influence the majority of spoken MSA performances in those regions.  The
idea that the phenomenon is limited to Egypt is simply wrong.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 12 18:45:43 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:45:43 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:AIDA query
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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: dil <dil at byu.edu>
Subject: AIDA query

A subscriber wrote me asking for a summary of the recent AIDA conference.
I thought that this would be of interest to a number of subscribers if
anyone has the time or energy to provide one.  Even just some impressions
on a few of the papers could be useful.
dil
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:11:02 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:11:02 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Shawqi Dayf info
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: "Muhammad S. Eissa" <eissa at umich.edu>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf info

Shawqi Dayf is the very famous scholar in Arabic language and literature whose
name is known to a  generation of his students and readers. His writings
cover a wide spectrum in Arabic and Islamic themes He is the author of the
8 volumes on the history of Arabic literature published by Dar al-Maarif,
Cairo.. His numerous works, 42 titles, cover a wide range of Arabic
literature genres and linguistic studies in addition to a number of
biographies and manuscript editing. He was a professor in Dar al-Uluum
College, Cairo University and now, I believe, he is the head of Arabic
Language Academy in Egypt.  Please forgive this hasty reply that falls way
short of fulfilling Dr. Shawqi Dayf his due and well deserved respect.

	salaam
Muhammad S. Eissa,

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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Mohammed Sawaie <ms at virginia.edu>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf info

Head of the Arabic Language Academy in Cairo, former professor of Arabic
and author of zillions of books on the history of Arabic lit and other
subjects. now, septo- or octogenerian!

ms

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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Muhammad Deeb <mdeeb at gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf info

	The title of this query gave me quite a jolt, for I feared
something sad has befallen Shawqi Dayf.  Long a professor emeritus of
Arabic literature, in the University of Cairo, and president of the Arabic
Language Academy, Dr. Dayf still contributes to the academic critical
scholarship of Arabic literature in all its phases and genres.

	In the tradition of his mentor, Taha Husayn, Shawqi Dayf has
taught many generations of students in the Arab world who have been since
shaping the study and appreciation of Arabic literature and language.
Dayf, who is likely in his late eighties, has bequeathed the Arabic
library with over 50 works (until 1990), covering the whole panoply of
Arabic studies.

	The foci of his studies range from the history of classical Arabic
literature, its artistic manifestations in poetry and prose, Arabic
linguistics, semantics, grammar and rhetoric, to the study of modern
Arabic poetry and its major representatives, such as Ahmad Shawqi,
al-Barudi and beyond.  His 7-volume encyclopedic history of classical
Arabic literature is an assiduous, patient and highly informed work that
has become deservedly indispensable in Arabic studies.  His writings on
modern Arabic literature, esp. on poetry, are those of the entrenched
classicist, and that may well account for his rather conservative and, at
times, hasty-to-unfair views (see his position on Ali Mahmoud Taha, for
instance).

	Of particular interest to our linguist colleague, Dr. Parkinson,
are Dayf's works: *Al-Madaaris an-NaHwiyyah,* *al-Balaaghah: TaTawwur wa
Taariikh,* *Tajdiid an-NaHw* and *Taysiir an-NaHw at-Ta at liimiyy Qadiiman
wa Hadiithan ma at a Mannhaj Tajdiidih.*

	Shawqi Dayf's two-volume autobiography, *Ma at ii,* in the Iqra'
series, while revelatory of the development of its author, chronicles the
the vicissitudes of the cultural landscape in Egypt in the early sixty
years of the 20th century.  God bless the halcyon university days under
Shawqi Dayf's mentorship!  I cherish, with deep nostalgia, our unrelenting
class discussions of modern Arabic poetry.  May God grant him happiness
and healthy longevity.

				M. Deeb

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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Pilar Lirola Delgado <pilar.lirola at uca.es>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf info

        The information I have about Shawqi Dayf is of 1994: an Egyptian
intellectual, professor in the University of Cairo, member of Mayma` al-Luga
al-`Arabiyya, general secretary of this institution, membrer of al-Maylis
al-Qawmi li-l-Thaqafa wa-l-Funun wa-l-Adab, member of al-Mayma` al-`Ilmi
al-Misri, etc. Awards: Ya´izat al-Dawla al-Taqdiriyya fi l-Adab, Ya´izat
al-Malik Faysal al-`Alamiyya fi l-Adab al-`Arabi...

        His prolific research works (about 50 volumenes.) are about classic
and modern language and literature, edition of texts, literary criticism,
and meanly studies on al-Andalus: al-Adab al-`arabi al-mu`asir fi Misr
(1957), Tarij al-adab al-`arabi (5 vols.), al-Madaris al-nahwiyya (1978),
Taydid al-nahw (1982)...

        Pilar Lirola
        Universidad de Cádiz (Spain)

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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Wen-chin Ouyang <wo at soas.ac.uk>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf info

Shawqi Dayf is one of the "essential" historians and critics of pre-modern
and modern Arabic literature with whose works (and they are very many)
undergraduate  and graduate students in Arab universities must be familiar.
He is known for his series of history of classical Arabic literature
(Al-'asr al-jahili, al-'asr al-islami, al-'asr al-'abbasi al-awwal and
al-'asr al-'abbasi al-thani) but primarily for his *Al-fann wa madhahibuhu
fi al-shi'r al-'arabi* (considered is best), and *Al-fann wa madhahibuhu fi
al-nathr al-'arabi.  His other works include titles stuch as *Al-balagha:
tatawwur wa tarikh*, *Al-madaris al-nahwiyya*, *Al-tatawwur al-tajdid fir
al-shi'r al-umawi*, etc., and a number of works on modern Arabic
literature.  He is very prolific and considered solid but not necessarily
very innovative in his approach.  His works are all published by Dar
al-Ma'arif in Cairo.  To the best of my knowledge, he is based in Cairo.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:17:05 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:17:05 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Cookbook response
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject: Cookbook response

Dear David,

The way to a student's mind is through his/her stomach, huh?

I may be able to help you. I know of a book and CD-ROM combo,
the CD is in English, Arabic, and French; the book is in English,
I think. Give me a call, "We Speak Arabic".

AhLan Wa SahLan,

George N. Hallak
http://www.aramedia.com
mailto:info at aramedia.com
T 617-825-3044 F 265-9648
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:15:56 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:15:56 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Writing in Arabic Query
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Kirk Belnap <rkb at email.byu.edu>
Subject: Writing in Arabic Query: studies, practical reference works...

Some of you will recall my exploratory queries about Arab linguistic
avoidance behavior.  One aspect of this research that fascinates me is the
fact that there appear to be emerging "standards" or norms of usage,
practices or preferences I suspect are not likely to be taught in school.
I would like to know if you are aware of studies addressing this sort of
thing.  Also, I would be interested to know if practical "how-to" manuals
are commercially available in bookstores in the Arab world.  I'd also be
interested in getting in touch with individuals (editors, for example) you
might recommend as having their finger on the pulse of the evolution of
written Arabic.  Email addresses would be much appreciated.

wa-shukran,

Kirk

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:14:50 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:14:50 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Arabic Speech Recognition Query
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Riad Saba <saba at balamand.edu.lb>
Subject: Arabic Speech Recognition Query

          I am a researcher from University of Balamand,  Lebanon
working on a machine translator English<-->Arabic.
What work has been done on arabic speech recognision? Thank you
Riad Saba
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:25:09 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:25:09 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Monterey Institute Summer Program
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: silp at miis.edu
Subject: Monterey Institute Summer Program

Monterey Institute of International Studies offers elementary, intermediate
and this summer by special request advanced Arabic language courses in an
eight-week Summer Intensive Langauge Program, June 27-August 23, 2000.

Custom, one-on-one instruction is available any time during the year; call
or write for more information.

Contact:

Summer Session Office
Monterey Institute of International Studies
425 Van Buren St.
Monterey CA 93940
(831) 647-4115  Fax: 831-647-3534
silp at miis.edu
web site: silp.miis.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:12:27 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:12:27 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Distance Learning Arabic Grades 4-5 Query
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: marym at ccat.sas.upenn.edu (Mary. Martin)
Subject: Distance Learning Arabic Grades 4-5 Query

The Middle East Center is working with the school district of Philadelphia
-both the offices of Instructional Media Technology and Curriculum
Support-World Languages Education to try to establish an interactive
distance learning program in Arabic via the School districts cable
network for grades 4-6.

Are any of you aware of any  similar programs such as this already going
on anywhere in the country (or world, for that matter)? If so, I'd
be grateful for information on the program and how to contact those
connected with it...

Many thanks
Mary Martin
Assistant Director
Middle East Center
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:20:10 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:20:10 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:jiim/giim
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: "Samia S. Montasser" <sam231 at gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
Subject: jiim/giim

I would like to add here, that I have a Yemeni and an Omani students in my
"Modern Arabic Short Stories" class. Neither of them went to Egypt or had
an Egyptian teacher before. Both pronounce it as /giim/ and not /jiim/.
When I asked them, they said in the regions they came from, almost
everyone pronounces it as /giim/.
There is a dissertation at Georgetown by Sayyed Othman, I have not read
it, on the phonology in Sibawaih's book. He, Othman, told me that the
description of how this consonant is produced is that of a /giim/ and not
a /jiim/.
It is said that some tribes in Arabia used to say /jiim/ and some /giim/.
Wallaahu 'a3lam.
Samia Montasser

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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Heba Aboul-Enein <haboulenein at hotmail.com>
Subject: jiim/giim

Greetings.

The jeem is seldomly used in Standard Egyptian Arabic. You don't hear it so
much in the media. It is used in some upper Egyptian dialects, e.g., the
name /9abdil gawaad/ becomes /9abdil jawaad/. Moreover, the qaaf sound is
sometimes represented as geem as in the word `able' /qaadir/ in classical
Arabic which becomes /?aadir/ with a glottal stop in Cariene Egyptian and
/gaadir/ in some upper Egyptian peasants dialects. It is even surprising
that the same word could be heard in some parts of Egypt as /yadir/ with the
/y/ sound (voiced uvular fricative as in the word /yabi/ or stupid).

So you can hear jeem or geem in Egypt with no much difference. However,
using the jeem in the TV or radio gives the impression that the person is
well-versed in Arabic or that he has lived for quite some time in the gulf
area.

Heba Aboul-Enein

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 18 18:49:29 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:49:29 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Proficiency Test Query
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Date: 18 Apr 2000
From: fhassan at texas.net (Fatme Hassan)
Subject: Proficiency Test Query

Does anyone know about a well developed Arabic proficiency test that has
been used and proven accurate with students of the Arabic language?
Thanks in advance for your input.

Fatme' Charafeddine Hassan

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 18 18:50:36 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:50:36 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Active Knowledge query
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Date: 18 Apr 2000
From: Haseeb Shehadeh <Haseeb.Shehadeh at helsinki.fi>
Subject: Active Knowledge query


Dear participants,

I would like to raise the following issue for discussion. Do you think that an
active knowledge (reading, writing, speaking) of MSA and one modern Arabic
dialect is perquisite or essential for all university teachers of Arabic
language and literature, holders of M.A., Ph.D.and professors alike.
h. Shehadeh

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:41:50 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:41:50 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:Comoros Help Plea
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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: "Ahmed Aboudou" <ahmed at francenet.fr>
Subject: Comoros Help Plea

AS ALAAMU ALAYKUM   I represent a Muslim association. We leave in
France but we come from Comoros Islands, a Muslim contry; so excuse
me but I don't speak English very well but I will just try with
simple words to ask you for some help. In Comoros, people must take their
local development upon themselves in all structures. We are looking
for help all over the world about material or money to build study
offices, or hospitals, young offices, prayer offices and Islamic
schools. We also started to set in place television in our village
but we need some Muslim programs like prayer lessons, Qurans, Islam
for women and for all, children's program in audio CD and video K7.
So, could you help us on sending us some CD and video, or if  you
can't, could you talk around you about our project or give us
some names of associations who can help us ?

Thank you for all your help and see you back soon, Inshaa Allah
Taanla,

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:44:03 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:44:03 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Instruction in Dallas Area Query
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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: Wael Doukmak <wd at arabic.com>
Subject: Arabic Instruction in Dallas Area Query

Hello,
 
I got the following inquiry through my website
<http://www.arabic.com>www.arabic.com .  Can you help?  Please reply to me
on or off the list and I will pass the info to the lady who contacted me.
 
She did not wish to be contacted by the list when I offered to simply
forward her message to the list.
 
 
 
E-mail I got from the lady follows:
____________
Hello!  I spoke with you over the phone about wanting to begin learning
Arabic this summer.  I will be living in Irving Texas, right outside of
Dallas.  I would greatly appreciate any program (or professor!) you might
be able to find in the Dallas/Ft worth area. 
Thank you so much for your help.
Name withheld
____________
 
Shukran Jazilan,
 
 
Wael Doukmak

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:45:24 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:45:24 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Job:Arabic Speaking Moderator
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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject: Job:Arabic Speaking Moderator

Dear List Members,

I have received the following inquiry from an eager client.
Please let me or him directly (carbon copy me), if you
can help or if you know of someone who can help. They
will pay heftily, I learned.

>>
 My client wants  to conduct focus group research using an Arabic speaking
moderator, trained and experienced in moderating and reporting such research.
Must speak fluent English as well. Groups will be conducted in Detroit but
client will hold meetings in Boston. I'd welcome information on any qualified
candidates.
Thanks for your help,

Michael Cosgrove, Ph.D.
Executive Vice President
Low + Associates, Inc.
5454 Wisconsin Ave., Suite 1400
Chevy Chase, MD 20815
301-951-9200
301-986-1641(fax)
>>
Thanks for you help.
Best Regards,
George N. Hallak
AramediA Group
761 Adams Street
Boston, MA 02122, USA

http://www.aramedia.com
mailto:info at aramedia.com
T 617-825-3044 F 265-9648
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:50:08 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:50:08 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Proficiency Test Responses
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2) Subject: Proficiency Test Response
3) Subject: Proficiency Test Response

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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject: Proficiency Test Response

Greetings / tahaiya tayyiba wa b3ad...

Depending on which skills (and dialects, in some cases) in the Arabic
language are needed for evaluation and rating, the two proficiency tests that
are most familiar to me are:

o  Defense Language Proficiency Test (DLPT) - tape/Q&A reponse and reading.
Test proficiencies in MSA only

o  Oral proficiency interview (OPI) - an interview administered either
face-to-face (usually by a panel) or via telephone.  An OPI's contents can
cover MSA and/or a regional dialect (if qualified interviewers are available
in the dialect).

Those types of tests are used by the

o  Defense Language Institute, Foreign Language Center (DLIFLC) at the
Presidio of Monterey, CA

and

o  U.S. Department of State

Results are used to assess / rate / record / report / manage the proficiency
of their language students and personnel in "language-designated" positions.

There are some variants useful for the testing of
second-generation/"heritage" speakers of foreign languages to insure coverage
of their vocabularies and communication skills.

Hope this helps.

Khair, in sha' Allah.

Regards from Los Angeles,

Stephen H. Franke

e-mail: < mutarjm at aol.com >

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2)
Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: "Dr. Sonia Soliman" <g_sonias at qualcomm.com>
Subject: Proficiency Test Response

         In answer to Fatme's question. I like to inform you that a
colleague of mine and I have developed  the Arabic VOCI,  an oral test for
language proficiency. Although the main objective of the test is the
examination of the student's oral proficiency,  it could also be applied
for written proficiency.

         The test is divided into four separate parts from Level 1 to 4.
For each level, the questions vary from basic into advanced.  Based on the
principles and the recommendations of the AATA, the test examine the
competence of the student in the areas of understanding,and communication.
If given as a written exam, it would cover the reading, writing,
comprehension and  speaking.

         The test was designed for the Navy Seals. It consists of a video
in which two people: a young girl and a young man ask  a variety of
questions to the student.  The student answers the question on a tape in a
specific amount of time. The number of minutes changes depending on the
difficulty of the question. The student can change his answer within the
time limit; however, he cannot go back to the question once the time is up
or other questions have been posed.

         The test ends with a series of situations from easy ones to more
complicated. It tests  the elements of vocabulary and the grammatical areas
assigned to each level. Even though, the test  is mainly an oral one, the
same questions could be asked for a written examination and consequently,
achieve the same goal.

         If you need more information, feel free to ask.

         Sonia Ghattas-Soliman

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3)
Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: Dil Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject: Proficiency Test Response

Dr. Raji Rammuny developed a written Arabic Proficiency Test a number of
years ago, and I think it is still available from him or from the
University of Michigan.  He later developed, with a government grant, a
SOPI test for Arabic (an OPI that uses a tape rather than an interviewer)
and he also has information on the availability of that test.  I don't have
his e-mail available right now, but maybe one of our subscribers could
provide it.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:40:21 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:40:21 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:AIDA web site and summaries
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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: Catherine Miller <miller at mmsh.univ-aix.fr>
Subject: AIDA web site and summaries

Aida has a web site where most of the summaries of the communication can be
found.
http://www.fusion.net.ma/aida

The proceedings will be published soon in Marrakesh
the proceedings of Aida 3 in Malta have also came out

the new version of the Aida newsletter will appear in the web site...

C. Miller

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:42:46 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:42:46 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Feedback in Spoken Arabic Query
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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: Abdullah Samarah <abdullah at ling.gu.se>
Subject: Feedback in Spoken Arabic Query

    Dear Sir/s, I am looking for any latest book, or information
       regarding Arabic spoken language, and more preciesly, in
       Feedback phenomenon in Arabic spoken language. If you can help
       me by any way, I will be grateful to you, and you can contact
       me through the following address.

       All the best,

       Abdullah J:
       Linguistic Dept,
       GBG University
       SWEDEN
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 23:26:21 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:26:21 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Bitar book query
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Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: yara khoury <equality7176 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Bitar book query

Hello everyone,

I am doing some research about the phoenician alphabet.
A book has been suggested to me titled 'al abjadiyah al phinikiyah wa l khat
al arabi' by Elias Bitar, but no mention of the publisher house so as to
locate it.
Does anyone know the publisher of this particular book?

Thank you,
Yara
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 23:27:17 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:27:17 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Kahramana query
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Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: Fred <fredlag at worldnet.fr>
Subject: Kahramana query

has anyone any information on the Iraki feminist Kahramana? (works,
biographical info, etc...)
Thanks in advance

Frederic Lagrange
Departement d'Etudes Arabes
Paris IV

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 23:27:58 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:27:58 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Proficiency Test response
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Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject: Proficiency Test response

We do have on our site http://aramedia.com/edistance.htm
an online Arabic Proficiency test, and it is Free. Give it a try,
and if it satisfies your needs, I will put you in touch with its
developers Mrs. Sanaa Ghanem of Edumagic Distance
Learning Course (Online). Mrs. Ghanem is the teacher of Arabic
at the American University of Cairo, Egypt.

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak
AramediA Group
http://www.aramedia.com
mailto:info at aramedia.com
T 617-825-3044 F 265-9648

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 23:25:35 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:25:35 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Books
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1)
Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: "John Benjamins Publishing Co." <promotion at benjamins.com>
Subject: New Books

John Benjamins Publishing announces the availability of the following new
work on Arabic:
Perspectives on Arabic Linguistics XII.
Papers from the Twelfth Annual Symposium on Arabic Linguistics,
Urbana-Champaign, Illinois, 1998.
Elabbas BENMAMOUN (ed.)
Current Issues in Linguistic Theory 190
1 55619 967 8 / USD 75.00 (Hardcover)
90 272 3696 8 / NLG 150.00 (Hardcover)
The papers in this volume deal with various topics in Arabic Linguistics.
Most of the papers focus on new issues and introduce new empirical
generalizations that haven't been studied before within the context of
Arabic linguistics. The syntax and morphosyntax papers explore issues
ranging from the nature of extraction strategies to various types of
Construct State representations and the proper analysis of the
distribution of the nominal, adjectival and verbal mophological features.
The computational linguistics papers focus on the challenge posed by the
non-concatenative nature of Arabic morphology. The authors illustrate how
their programs can handle Arabic morphology. The papers in
morpho-phonology and historical linguistics deal with the development of
the Arabic complementizer system and the empirical and theoretical
problems that arise in the context of hypocoristic formation in Arabic.
The sociolinguistics papers take up the issues of sociolinguistic
variation as they pertain to the phenomenon of diglossia and regional uses
of the Standard variety of Arabic.
Contributions by: Joseph Aoun; Kenneth R. Beesley; Lina Choueiri; Jamil
Daher; Stuart Davis; Peter Hallman; Zeinab Ibrahim; George Anton Kiraz;
Mohammad Mohammad; Dilworth B. Parkinson; David Testen; Bushra Adnan
Zawaydeha.

John Benjamins Publishing Co.
Offices: Philadelphia Amsterdam:
Websites: http://www.benjamins.com http://www.benjamins.nl
E-mail: service at benjamins.com customer.services at benjamins.nl
Phone: +215 836-1200 +31 20 6762325
Fax: +215 836-1204 +31 20 6739773
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 21:34:43 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:34:43 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:SOAS Programs
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1)
Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: Sherin Abdel Halim <sa15 at soas.ac.uk>
Subject: SOAS Programs

Language Centre,
School of Oriental and African Studies
University of London
Tel UK: 020 7898 4854   World: +44 20 7898 4854
Fax UK: 020 7898 4889   World: +44 20 7898 4889
Summer School 2000 at SOAS Language Centre:
http://www.soas.ac.uk/languagecentre/tt/summer.html

The SOAS Language Centre is now accepting applications for 1/2/4 week
intensive Courses in Modern Standard Arabic and in Cairean Arabic for
Summer 2000.

One-week Survival courses in Modern Standard Arabic/Colloquial Egyptian Dialect

Course:	1-week Survival
DATE:	03-Jul-07-Jul
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	23-Jun
Fee:	£250, for a total of 25 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.

Course:	1-week Survival
DATE:	31-Jul-04-Aug
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	21-Jul
Fee:	£250, for a total of 25 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.

Two-week Intensive Courses in Modern Standard Arabic/Colloquial Egyptian
Dialect

Course:	2-week Intensive
DATE:	31-Jul-04-Aug
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	 23-Jun
Fee:	£500,  for a total of 50 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.

Course:	2-week Intensive
DATE:	31-Jul-11-Aug
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	21-Jul
Fee:	£500, for a total of 50 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.

The Four Week Arabic Courses - A general preparation for communicating in
Modern Standard Arabic/Colloquial Egyptian Dialect.

Course:	4-week Intensive
DATE:	03-Jul-28-Jul
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	23-Jun
Fee:	£1000, for a total of 100 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.

Course:	4-week Intensive
DATE:	31-Jul-25-Aug
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	21-Jul
Fee:	£1000, for a total of 100 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.


SELF-ACCESS LEARNING:
The Resources Room is open to Language Centre students free of charge. It
contains audio listening and recording facilities, reception of various
satellite TV and radio stations (including BBC World Service radio
programmes), computers with Internet access, and an increasing range of
computer-based language learning software. Students are encouraged to use
the facilities in their own time in order to build upon skills learnt in
the classroom.

TO APPLY for the Language Centre's Summer Intensive Courses you can:
1.  Print out our application form in Acrobat PDF format fill it in and fax
or post it back to us (Payment must accompany your  application form).
2.  E-mail, telephone, fax or write in for an application form.

*The Univ. Of London accommodation page is at:
http://www.lon.ac.uk/accom/    and this is linked from SOAS Language Centre
Summer timetable pages.


HOW TO CONTACT US:
http://www.soas.ac.uk/centres/languagecentre/arabic
E-mail:	 	languages at soas.ac.uk
Telephone:	UK: 020 7898 4888
		World:  +44 20 7898 4888
Fax:		UK: 020 7898 4889
		World:  +44 20 7898 4889
Post:		The Courses Secretary
               		Language Centre
                 	School of Oriental and African Studies:
	Thornhaugh Street
                 	Russell Square
                 	LONDON
                 	WC1H OXG

........................................................................
Sherin Abdel Halim
Co-ordinator of Arabic Language Courses
Language Centre, SOAS, University of London

Tel:  UK  	020 7898 4888  OR	020 7898 4858
Fax:  UK  	020 7898 4889

Check our Language Centre Arabic courses at:
http://www.soas.ac.uk/centres/languagecentre/arabic

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 21:33:30 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:33:30 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:AIDA Info
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1) Subject: AIDA Info

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Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: Uri Horesh <urihores at post.tau.ac.il>
Subject: AIDA Info


Dear colleagues,

If any of you are interested in receiving communications from AIDA
(Association Internationale de Dialectologie Arabe), and have not provided
contact information during the past two conferences (in Malta and/or
Marrakech), kindly e-mail your name, address and e-mail address to
<urihores at post.tau.ac.il>.

If you are registered, but have moved or changed e-mail addresses, you are
also requested to update us.

Please note that there is a membership fee of FF200, collected every other
year at the AIDA conference. Details will be provided when you send us your
contact information.

Yours,
Uri Horesh

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 26 17:13:33 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:13:33 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:ALS 2001 Query
Message-ID: <WED.26.APR.2000.101333.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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1) Subject: ALS 2001 Query
2) Subject: ALS 2001 Plea

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Date: 26 Apr 2000
From: Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject: ALS 2001 Query

Hi,
  Does anybody know when the next "Annual Symposium on Arabic Linguistics"
will be held??

cheers,
andy

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2)
Date: 26 Apr 2000
From: Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject: ALS 2001 Plea

The Arabic Linguistics Society  is currently looking for a venue to hold
its next annual symposium.  It will be held sometime near the first weekend
of March, 2001. Last years call for papers was very late, which caused
untold problems, so we would like this year to nail down a venue by the
early part of the summer.  If your institution would consider hosting this
symposium, please send me an e-mail, and I will send you further details.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 26 15:55:28 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:55:28 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Bitar book response
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Date: 26 Apr 2000
From: Frank Unlandherm <unlandhe at columbia.edu>
Subject: Bitar book response

The book was published privately by the author in Damascus in 1997. If
you are looking for it, search the author as Baytar, Ilyas and the
title as: Abjadiyah al-Finiqiyah...

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 26 17:09:27 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:09:27 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING/PEDA:AUC Conf on Contrastive Rhetoric
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Date: 26 Apr 2000
From: zeinabib <zeinabib at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: AUC Conf on Contrastive Rhetoric

THE AMERICAN UNIVERSITY IN CAIRO

 THE SECOND INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE
 ON CONTRASTIVE RHETORIC

THEME:

LINGUISTICS, CULTURE AND TEACHING

March 22-24, 2001

CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
PREORGANIZED PANELS AND INDIVIDUAL PAPERS

Submission deadline:	  September 10, 2000

Proposals for presentations related to both the theory and practice of
language learning and teaching are invited in any of the following topic
areas:

Integrating  culture in language teaching	Sociolinguistics
Comparative research				Discourse analysis
Teaching pedagogy					Translation


Conference Committee:
	Dr. S. Aydelott		Dr. Z. Ibrahim		Ms. N. Kassabgy
	Freshman Writing Program	Arabic Language Institute
English Language Institute

	The American University in Cairo
	113 Sharia Kasr El Aini
	Cairo,    Egypt
	e-mail:    CRCONF at aucegypt.edu





SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL


1.	Complete the proposal form

2.	Include a 250-word attachment on a separate sheet of paper.
	If there is more than one presenter, include the biographical
	information of the joint presenters on a separate sheet of
	paper.

3.	Mail or Email complete proposals to:

 Dr. S. Aydelott, Dr. Z. Ibrahim or Ms. N. Kassabgy
The American University in Cairo
113 Sharia Kasr el Aini
Cairo, Egypt

Email:  CRCONF at aucegypt.edu

For electronic submission of proposals, watch out for details on the

AUC Website at
www. aucegypt.edu

DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION OF PROPOSALS

SEPTEMBER 10, 2000

For further information, contact
Ms. Maida Torosian
maidat at aucegypt.edu



PRESENTATION PROPOSAL

DETAILS OF PRESENTER(S)
Main Presenter:

Name:	______________________________________________________
Affiliation:	______________________________________________________
Address:	______________________________________________________
		______________________________________________________
		______________________________________________________
Telephone:	______________________________________________________
Email:	_________________________  Fax:  _______________________

Joint Presenter(s) if relevant:

	Name						Institutional
Affiliation
___________________________________		___________________________
___________________________________		___________________________
___________________________________		___________________________
___________________________________		___________________________

DETAILS OF PRESENTATION:
Title of Presentation:
_____________________________________________________________________

Abstract (250 words maximum):
1.	Type abstract on a separate sheet of paper.
2.	Include the following on the top left-hand corner:
	A.   Presenter(s) name
	B.   Title of Presentation
	C.   Topic Area of Presentation

Summary for Program Book (50 words maximum)
Please type





Biographical Information for Program Book (50 words maximum):
If there is more than one presenter, please include information for EACH
presenter using a separate sheet of paper:

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:52:40 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:52:40 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:JAIS Announcements
Message-ID: <WED.5.APR.2000.115240.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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1) Subject: JAIS Announcement: Szyska article
2) Subject: JAIS Announcement: Simpson article

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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Joseph Norment Bell <joseph.bell at msk.uib.no>
Subject: JAIS Announcement

JOURNAL OF ARABIC AND ISLAMIC STUDIES
http://www.uib.no/jais
http://enlil.ff.cuni.cz/jais

The final Adobe Acrobat version of Christian Szyska's article "Desire and
Denial: Sacred and Profane Spaces in 'Abd al-Hamid Jawdat al-Sahhar's Novel
_In the Caravan of Time_" in vol. 2, 1998-99 has been posted at our
Norwegian site along with a hastily corrected HTML version.

Joseph Bell

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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Joseph Norment Bell <joseph.bell at msk.uib.no>
Subject: JAIS Announcement

JOURNAL OF ARABIC AND ISLAMIC STUDIES
http://www.uib.no/jais
http://enlil.ff.cuni.cz/jais

The pre-publication version of Erica Sapper Simpson's article "Islam in
Uzbekistan: Why Freedom of Religion is Fundamental for Peace and Security in
the Region" has been posted to the Norwegian site today.

ABSTRACT: This paper is dedicated to the people in Uzbekistan, known and
unknown, whose future depends on peace and stability in the region. I wrote
this paper with two different readers in mind: for the first reader, this
paper provides an introduction to the current struggle in Uzbekistan between
the traditional values of the non-governmental form of Islam and the modern
values of the secular government; for the second reader, who is familiar
with this struggle, this paper presents and defends one side of the
debat--the traditional values of the independent form of Islam. A discussion
of the dilemma posed by this struggle, which is common in many emerging
nations, is beyond the purpose of this paper. In the interest of fairness,
however, a response would be in order on the problems faced by a newly
emerging government with a predominantly Muslim population with the
different trends and the varying degrees of fervor and activism one is
witness to in such populations. In other words, the current Uzbek regime
should also be evaluated in terms of realpolitik. In this way, both sides of
the Uzbek question might be revealed for all interested readers.

Joseph N. Bell

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:50:26 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:50:26 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Greetings Query
Message-ID: <WED.5.APR.2000.115026.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Benjamin Troutman <troutmab at gusun.georgetown.edu>
Subject: Greetings Query

As most of us know, Arabs, in general, have an elaborate way of greeting
each another.  Could anyone suggest authors and studies on this discourse
phenomenon, specifically in terms of "rules" for conversational
turn-taking?

My question comes after looking at the Conversation Analysis
approach (Sacks, Schegloff, & Jefferson 1974).

all the best,

Benjamin Troutman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:49:46 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:49:46 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Translation of terms query
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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Ali Hussin <ahussin at study.haifa.ac.il>
Subject: Translation of terms query

Dear all,

Could any one tell me what is the exact translation of the following three
terms into English?
Those terms are:

- Gharad/Aghrad (al-garad al-shi'ri in classical Arabic poetry. For
example: the Nasib or the Madih)

- Fikra/Afkar (al-fikra al-shi'riyya in classical Arabic poetry. For
example: the Nasib contains a lot of Afkar, as: the mouth of the
beloved girl is sweeter than the honey, or it is more delicious than the
wine etc...)

 - Ma'na/Ma'ani (al-ma'na al-shi'ri in classical Arabic poetry. For
example: the Fikra that the mouth of the beloved girl is more delicious
than the wine contains Ma'ani as: this wine was made in a place called
Adhru'at or in Andar, this wine is very expensive, the wine's color is
red, this wine is mixed with water, the mouth of the beloved girl is more
delicious than this wine just at the night, etc... )

I would be also very thankful if any one is ready to send me
further information about sources (books or articles in English, Hebrew,
Arabic or German) that deal with this matter.

Yours,
Ali Hussein
Dept. of Arabic Language & Lit.
University of Haifa
Tel:972-4-8240075,
Fax: 972-4-8249710
E-mail: ahussin at study.haifa.ac.il
Haifa, Israel, 31905

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:47:38 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:47:38 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Yarmouk $ update
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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Mohammed Sawaie <ms at virginia.edu>
Subject: Yarmouk $ update

Dear Colleagues:

I trust this finds you well as the academic year is winding down.  I just
want to bring your attention that the UVA-Yarmouk Program is enjoying
another year of Federal funds.  Please encouarge your students who have
done two or more years of Arabic to apply to our Program as they will
receive generous financial aid.

The application deadline is April 7.  Students can download the application
forms by visiting our web site:

http://www.virginia.edu/~arabic/yarmuk_program.htm

If you have any questions, Plse don't hesitate to contact me.  Cheers,

Mohammed

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:46:52 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:46:52 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Diglossia Response
Message-ID: <WED.5.APR.2000.114652.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: zeinabib <zeinabib at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Diglossia Response

> The American U. of Cairo Press recently published a book (may be more of a
> compendium) about Arabic diglossia and colloquials.

I have checked at the AUC bookstore and press people and they know nothing
about this book.  Most probably it is the book "Understanding Arabic" as it
includes Ferguson's article.
shukran,Zeinab.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr  5 18:45:30 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:45:30 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Dialect Confidence
Message-ID: <WED.5.APR.2000.114530.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 05 Apr 2000
From: Benjamin Troutman <troutmab at gusun.georgetown.edu>
Subject: Dialect Confidence

>   What is "dialect confidence"?

dialect confidence is the ability to say 'gamel 'abdul nasr' instead of
the way 'it should be'...
dialect confidence is the ability to say that, as the maltese will say,
'we are NOT a dialect of arabic.'

all the best,

benjamin

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr  6 18:11:10 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:11:10 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:MT Query
Message-ID: <THU.6.APR.2000.111110.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 06 Apr 2000
From: Yaser Al-Onaizan <yaser at ISI.EDU>
Subject: MT Query

Greetings all,

I'm looking for a good Arabic <-> English machine translation software that is
not too expensive. I searched the internet and found three:

1. Al-Wafi for $89.
2. Al-mutarjim al-arabi for $699
3. ArabTrans 2.0 (for 170 Sterling pounds).

Did any of you use any of them (or anything similar)? If so, could you please
comment on how useful or how good/bad it is/was.


Thanks,
Yaser

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr  6 18:08:20 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:08:20 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Translation of Terms Response
Message-ID: <THU.6.APR.2000.110820.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 06 Apr 2000
From: Wail Hassan <w-hassan at wiu.edu>
Subject: Translation of Terms Response

A rough equivalent of Gharad/Aghrad would be "authorial intention" in
English literary terminology. I would render Fikra/Afkar as "stock images"
or "conventional images/symbols". I can't think of an equivalent of
Ma'na/Ma'ani  except perhaps "associations".


>I would be also very thankful if any one is ready to send me
>further information about sources (books or articles in English, Hebrew,
>Arabic or German) that deal with this matter.

I know there is a tri-lingual dictionary (Arabic/English/French) of
literary terms by, if I remember correctly, Magdi Wahba.

Wail Hassan

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr  6 18:09:59 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:09:59 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Cultural Artifacts Query
Message-ID: <THU.6.APR.2000.110959.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 06 Apr 2000
From: "Kenneth K. Ayouby" <sm-kka at visitus.net>
Subject: Cultural Artifacts Query

Salaam Everyone,
?
If one is to teach Arab cultural artifacts in the AFL classroom, what would
one include in such a curriculum? I am an AFL teacher and I am interested
in learning from all and anyone who share this list the things they would
include/teach. Perhaps we can? generate a discussion about the elements of
such a "curriculum"and how best to present it.
?
Best Regards,
?
Kenneth K. Ayouby

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:24:33 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:24:33 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:URL with Arabic Poetry
Message-ID: <TUE.11.APR.2000.112433.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: Heba Aboul-Enein <haboulenein at hotmail.com>v
Subject: URL with Arabic Poetry

       Greetings. To those who are interested, the following site has a
good collection of Classical Arabic poetry:

www.cultural.org.ae

Dr. Heba Aboul-Enein

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:17:56 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:17:56 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:Machine Translation Responses
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2) Subject: Machine Translation Response
3) Subject: Machine Translation Response
4) Subject: Machine Translation Response

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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: J.Schneider at epixtech.com
Subject: Machine Translation Response

Another translation tool is Universal Translator 2000 from LanguageForce.
You can find them at http:\\www.languageforce.com.
Their level 1 product doesn't handle grammar changes and their level 2
product isn't yet available for Arabic.  They are fairly low cost and can
handle multiple languages as well as text-to-speech.

Wayne S.

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2)
Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: sakhrus at erols.com
Subject: Machine Translation Response

You might find it useful to access the free lexicons and dictionaries on
Sakhr's Websites.  You will need to either use Internet Explorer 5.x or
Sindbad to view the Arabic at:
	www.lexicons.sakhr.com    	or
	www.literary.sakhr.com

DIGITEK INTERNATIONAL

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3)
Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: sakhrus at erols.com
Subject: Machine Translation Response

You will probably find that most cheaper "translation" programs are
simply parallel dictionaries and leave you with a great deal of
post-editing, including word order and word choice problems.  On recent
tests, Al-Mutarjim and Al-Wafi got accuracy socres in the 40th
percentile.  Al-Nakheel did little better.  The Universal Translator was
even lower.

If you are going to do regular translation with the Arabic-English
translation pair, you would be better advised to buy aa translation
memory program and build your own specific domain memories with which to
translate.

DIGITEK INTERNATIONAL

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4)
Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: GnhBos at aol.comv
Subject: Machine Translation Response

Akh Yaser,

Please note that most, if not ALL, Arabic translation software
requires MS Arabic Windows. I know about the above, because
we sell them. AL-Wafi is an extremely inferior product, I wouldn't
use it. Al Mutarjim Al Arabey would have been good if we are still
using MS Arabic Windows 95, it is NOT fully functional with the
new Windows. The company was sold, and I am not sure how their
technical support will be affected.

There are two superior products, Sakhr's CAT Translator and An-Nakel.
Both are Bidirectional translators, none of the above is bi-di. An-Nakel
is also available in single direction translation. In my opinion, bi-di is
the
way to go. For more information, go to our machine translation webpage:

http://aramedia.com/aschome.htm

Sakhr's CAT* Translator Trainable for Arabic Windows is $1999.00
An-Nakel* Bidirectional Translation Software Ar-En-Ar $995.00
An-Nakel* One Way Arabic to English Translation Software $695.00
An-Nakel* One Way English to Arabic Translation Software $595.00
Easy Lingo, Instant Translator English-Arabic. ANY Win 95/98/NT $25.00
(*) Requires MS Arabic Windows.

You are welcome to contact me, directly, for more information.


Best Regards,

George N. Hallak
AramediA Group
761 Adams Street
Boston, MA 02122, USA

http://www.aramedia.com
mailto:info at aramedia.com
T 617-825-3044 F 265-9648

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:19:57 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:19:57 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Cultural Artifacts Responses
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>v
Subject: Cultural Artifacts Response

some things you can use:

a newspaper, a magazine, a shiisha; bring in a dish, bread; perhaps music;
cartoons; a cactus; incense, perfumes; a map; pictures, jewellery; crafts;
spices;
musical instruments; a poem or two....

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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: djust at netvision.net.il
Subject: Cultural Artifacts Response

I bet that what you are going to get is a list of everyone's
individual prejudices.  Having said that, you might as well get mine.
 Don't forget:

1.  A lot of the Koran.  But that's too obvious for words, I guess.
2.  The Abbasid historians.  My first contact with them, in fact, was
in AFL.  They are entertaining (very important in the classroom),
important in themselves in the history of Arabic culture, and
important as historical sources.
3.  Medieval lyric poetry.  Always a good teaching tool in a foreign
language.  And never underestimate dual-language editions as a
teaching tool.
4.  Selections from modern Arabic political writings CHOSEN FOR THEIR
RHETORICAL VALUE.
5.  The Medieval Aristoteleans.  If you look a little below the
surface, their influence on all of human culture West of China has
been absolutely shocking, and I suspect that they're not much harder
for speakers of English to understand than for speakers of Arabic.

Good luck.
David

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:20:56 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:20:56 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Computational Linguistics Query
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: Mohamed Noamany <mfn at cs.nmsu.edu>
Subject: Computational Linguistics Queryv

Dear Colleagues,
	I am searching for books on Arabic computational linguistics,
Modern books on Arabic morphology and Arabic Syntax.
Any advices will be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Mohamed Farouk Noamany,
Ph.D. student,
New Mexico State University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:21:49 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:21:49 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Sukuun in Quran Query
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: "Dr. Stefan Weninger" <Stefan.Weninger at lrz.uni-muenchen.de>
Subject: Sukuun in Quran Query

Dear collegues,

in the quasi-official Qur'aan-edition of al-Azhar the sign for sukuun is
different from that employed in ordinary texts. Its shape is rather
flat, it is open at the left side and has an edge at the right side. In
the appendix to the edition it is stated, that this sign is the head of
a small khaa' without dot. Graphically this makes perfectly sense, but
my problem is: Why is the letter khaa' used? What is the abbreviated
word? Any ideas?

Sincerely,
Stefan Weninger

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 18:23:14 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:23:14 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:jiim as giim in Al-Kitaab Query
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: Benjamin Troutman <troutmab at gusun.georgetown.edu>v
Subject: jiim as giim in Al-Kitaab Query

When I asked my t.a. why I heard the jeem as a [geem] again and again in
one of the reading passages in 'al-kitab part two', she said that there
are more that one 'm.s.a's.  Is there such a thing as modern standard
arabic dialectology?!?!  Or is it the confidence of the Egyptian dialect?

all the best,

Benjamin David Troutman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 19:18:26 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:18:26 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic/English Cookbook Query
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: "David C. Reisman" <david.reisman at yale.edu>
Subject: Arabic/English Cookbook Query

Greetings,

A student of mine (first year Arabic) asked me if there were such a
creature as an Arabic-English cookbook, which she described as
containing Arabic recipes with (facing?) English translations, as she
has a "fascination with food." I would prefer that the Arabic of such
a book were in Arabic script (to help improve her reading skills) and
not transliterated, but will settle for anything.  Any thoughts?

Regards,

David C. Reisman
Yale University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 11 19:17:27 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:17:27 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Bookstrores in Munich Query
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Date: 11 Apr 2000
From: Tim Buckwalter <tbuckwalter at tegic.com>
Subject: Bookstrores in Munich Queryv

I have a question for al-ikhwaan al-almaan on this list:

I'm looking for some good bookstores in Munich where I might buy modern
Arabic dictionaries (especially Schregle's unfinished magnum opus). All I
can find on the web are a few addresses
 (http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~wwn/bookstores.html ) (the link to Obelisk is
broken)
but I don't know if they would carry contemporary Arabic dictionaries.
Do you know of any bookstores to recommend? If they don't have in stock the
dictionaries that I want I assume I can still make my purchase and haver the
books shipped to me here in the US.
I'll be in Munich April 17-18 (staying at the Marriott).

Thanks!

Tim Buckwalter
Senior Language Engineer
Tegic Communications

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 12 18:37:06 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:37:06 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Cookbook Response
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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: "Chouairi, R. MR           DFL" <GR6548 at exmail.usma.army.mil>
Subject: Cookbook Response

Dear Sir
Although I do not know of the existence of an Arabic-English cookbook, there
is a great and an accurate translation of chef Georges Rayess classical
cookbook: al-maTbakh al-lubnAAny, under: "the Art of Lebanese Cooking" by
Najla Showker- Librairie du Liban ( mother of Selwa "Lucky" Roosevelt,
ex-chief of protocol of the Reagan White house).  You could get both books
from Librairie Antoine in Beirut and compare them.  The translation is to
the word.  The late Georges Rayess ( ex-chef at the Bristol and at Byblos
during the grands jours of Beirut) is regarded as the Arab Escoffier and was
the founder of the Lebanese famed al-madrassah al-funduquiah which redefined
much of the Arab cooking as we know it today.  His book is still by far the
best cookbook (and the oldest) covering middle-eastern and classical French
cooking.  Only the middle-eastern section is translated.  I hope this will
help your student.
Rajaa Chouairi
West Point

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 12 18:41:32 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:41:32 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Shawqi Dayf query
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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: Dil <dil at byu.edu>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf query

Someone directed me to the Sharq AlAwsat article on the current session of
the language academy in Cairo at:

http://www.asharqalawsat.com/aaasumframe/pc/art/welcome.html

which contains a quote by Shawqi Dayf.  I know I should know, but can
someone fill me in on exactly who he is, what his background is, and what
his status in Egypt and Arab society is?  Thanks.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 12 19:07:16 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:07:16 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab responses
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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: Tim Buckwalter <tbuckwalter at tegic.com>
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

Benjamin:

This issue (and many others) are discussed in much detail in a book by Clive
Holes:
"Modern Arabic: Structures, Functions and Varieties." (London: Longman,
1994).
I highly recommend it.

Tim Buckwalter

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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

There are indeed several Arabics of all flavors.  The differences
are especially clear in the sounds.  Modern standard Arabic is influenced
by colloquials.

Waheed

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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: Muallam at aol.comv
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

I would dismiss that as Egyptian confidence.

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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

The term "dialect" as it was originally used referred to the regional
variations in literary Greek.  So, in that sense, a dialectology of MSA is
quite appropriate.

I have just returned from Morocco where I have noticed a difference in the
lexis of the Arabic of newspapers.

There is a small body of work done with regional variations in MSA (and I
indeed do like to call them dialects of MSA - I think we as a profession ought
to adopt the term), mostly done by Dil Parkinson and Zeinab Ibrahim (or at
least so far as I am aware).

Dr. David Wilmsen

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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: aziz abbassi <moustique51 at hotmail.com>v
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

Strictly speaking, there can only be ONE MSA.
Your TA may be speaking about the surface realization of the same 'sound
system' by different groups of speakers (i.e., at the level of
"langue-parole" dichotomy). I am not sure whether this teacher is aware of
this phenomenon nicely addressed by Ibn Khaldun in his Muqaddimah way before
de Saussure and Chomsky -- of course.
And It seems to me though that the 'slips' found in  al-Kitab by the
Egyptian narrator(s) would not be encountered if the person(s) were to
read/recite Quranic verses.

On the other hand if your TA is an avid 'dialectologist' or a sociolinguist,
then they are speaking a different language altogether
--no pun intended-- The question to ask perhaps (the TA and the
'traditionists') is: when are these MSA's (or dialects) going to demand
their independence at last?
Aziz Abbassi

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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject: jiim/giim in Al-Kitaab response

>>From an ideological point of view, there is no MSA dialectology by
definition.  From a sociolinguistic point of view, there are some
(admittedly minor, but still salient) differences in the ways MSA is used
in various countries, at least on the phonological and lexical levels.
>>From a pedogogical point of view, the question is one of authenticity, and
exposing students to what they are going to encounter when they are thrown
into real-life Arabic.  Even if one limits oneself and one's students
entirely to MSA (say to news broadcasts), even a little experience in the
Middle East will bring up rampant variability in the ways certain phonemes
are pronounced and the way certain words are used.  In Egypt you don't JUST
here /giim/ in news broadcasts, and you don't JUST hear /jiim/.  You hear
them both.  No matter what one makes of this from the ideological or
sociolinguistic (or other) points of view (dismissing might be appropriate
there) it certainly doesn't seem very appropriate to dismiss this
phenomenon from the pedagogical point of view.  How long can we keep this
from our students?  Should we insist that they never travel to the Middle
East or listen to authentic broadcasts so as to protect them from this kind
of mixed performance?
Certainly dialect confidence plays a role in the use of /g/ for /j/ in
Egyptian MSA, but a look at any of the mass of sociolinguistic data from
the last few decades indicates that the situation is a good deal more
complicated than that. (If nothing else, the whole idea of dialect
confidence only comes up in a cross-dialectal context.  For many Egyptians,
this variable situation is just the way it is, and would never be conceived
of as having anything to do with how Arabs from other regions perceive
them.  Matched guise experiements have demonstrated that for many Egyptians
the /g/ pronunciation is not heard as 'colloquial influence' but rather as
an acceptable, less religiously oriented fusha pronunciation of the
phoneme.)  Further, it would be a mistake to not look at similar variable
phenomena in the spoken MSA of other areas, most specifically the use of
/zh/ for /j/, variably of course, in newscasts from many parts of the Arab
World.  There are frankly many features of many dialects which locally
influence the majority of spoken MSA performances in those regions.  The
idea that the phenomenon is limited to Egypt is simply wrong.

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:45:43 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:AIDA query
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Date: 12 Apr 2000
From: dil <dil at byu.edu>
Subject: AIDA query

A subscriber wrote me asking for a summary of the recent AIDA conference.
I thought that this would be of interest to a number of subscribers if
anyone has the time or energy to provide one.  Even just some impressions
on a few of the papers could be useful.
dil
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:11:02 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:11:02 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Shawqi Dayf info
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: "Muhammad S. Eissa" <eissa at umich.edu>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf info

Shawqi Dayf is the very famous scholar in Arabic language and literature whose
name is known to a  generation of his students and readers. His writings
cover a wide spectrum in Arabic and Islamic themes He is the author of the
8 volumes on the history of Arabic literature published by Dar al-Maarif,
Cairo.. His numerous works, 42 titles, cover a wide range of Arabic
literature genres and linguistic studies in addition to a number of
biographies and manuscript editing. He was a professor in Dar al-Uluum
College, Cairo University and now, I believe, he is the head of Arabic
Language Academy in Egypt.  Please forgive this hasty reply that falls way
short of fulfilling Dr. Shawqi Dayf his due and well deserved respect.

	salaam
Muhammad S. Eissa,

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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Mohammed Sawaie <ms at virginia.edu>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf info

Head of the Arabic Language Academy in Cairo, former professor of Arabic
and author of zillions of books on the history of Arabic lit and other
subjects. now, septo- or octogenerian!

ms

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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Muhammad Deeb <mdeeb at gpu.srv.ualberta.ca>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf info

	The title of this query gave me quite a jolt, for I feared
something sad has befallen Shawqi Dayf.  Long a professor emeritus of
Arabic literature, in the University of Cairo, and president of the Arabic
Language Academy, Dr. Dayf still contributes to the academic critical
scholarship of Arabic literature in all its phases and genres.

	In the tradition of his mentor, Taha Husayn, Shawqi Dayf has
taught many generations of students in the Arab world who have been since
shaping the study and appreciation of Arabic literature and language.
Dayf, who is likely in his late eighties, has bequeathed the Arabic
library with over 50 works (until 1990), covering the whole panoply of
Arabic studies.

	The foci of his studies range from the history of classical Arabic
literature, its artistic manifestations in poetry and prose, Arabic
linguistics, semantics, grammar and rhetoric, to the study of modern
Arabic poetry and its major representatives, such as Ahmad Shawqi,
al-Barudi and beyond.  His 7-volume encyclopedic history of classical
Arabic literature is an assiduous, patient and highly informed work that
has become deservedly indispensable in Arabic studies.  His writings on
modern Arabic literature, esp. on poetry, are those of the entrenched
classicist, and that may well account for his rather conservative and, at
times, hasty-to-unfair views (see his position on Ali Mahmoud Taha, for
instance).

	Of particular interest to our linguist colleague, Dr. Parkinson,
are Dayf's works: *Al-Madaaris an-NaHwiyyah,* *al-Balaaghah: TaTawwur wa
Taariikh,* *Tajdiid an-NaHw* and *Taysiir an-NaHw at-Ta at liimiyy Qadiiman
wa Hadiithan ma at a Mannhaj Tajdiidih.*

	Shawqi Dayf's two-volume autobiography, *Ma at ii,* in the Iqra'
series, while revelatory of the development of its author, chronicles the
the vicissitudes of the cultural landscape in Egypt in the early sixty
years of the 20th century.  God bless the halcyon university days under
Shawqi Dayf's mentorship!  I cherish, with deep nostalgia, our unrelenting
class discussions of modern Arabic poetry.  May God grant him happiness
and healthy longevity.

				M. Deeb

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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Pilar Lirola Delgado <pilar.lirola at uca.es>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf info

        The information I have about Shawqi Dayf is of 1994: an Egyptian
intellectual, professor in the University of Cairo, member of Mayma` al-Luga
al-`Arabiyya, general secretary of this institution, membrer of al-Maylis
al-Qawmi li-l-Thaqafa wa-l-Funun wa-l-Adab, member of al-Mayma` al-`Ilmi
al-Misri, etc. Awards: Ya?izat al-Dawla al-Taqdiriyya fi l-Adab, Ya?izat
al-Malik Faysal al-`Alamiyya fi l-Adab al-`Arabi...

        His prolific research works (about 50 volumenes.) are about classic
and modern language and literature, edition of texts, literary criticism,
and meanly studies on al-Andalus: al-Adab al-`arabi al-mu`asir fi Misr
(1957), Tarij al-adab al-`arabi (5 vols.), al-Madaris al-nahwiyya (1978),
Taydid al-nahw (1982)...

        Pilar Lirola
        Universidad de C?diz (Spain)

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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Wen-chin Ouyang <wo at soas.ac.uk>
Subject: Shawqi Dayf info

Shawqi Dayf is one of the "essential" historians and critics of pre-modern
and modern Arabic literature with whose works (and they are very many)
undergraduate  and graduate students in Arab universities must be familiar.
He is known for his series of history of classical Arabic literature
(Al-'asr al-jahili, al-'asr al-islami, al-'asr al-'abbasi al-awwal and
al-'asr al-'abbasi al-thani) but primarily for his *Al-fann wa madhahibuhu
fi al-shi'r al-'arabi* (considered is best), and *Al-fann wa madhahibuhu fi
al-nathr al-'arabi.  His other works include titles stuch as *Al-balagha:
tatawwur wa tarikh*, *Al-madaris al-nahwiyya*, *Al-tatawwur al-tajdid fir
al-shi'r al-umawi*, etc., and a number of works on modern Arabic
literature.  He is very prolific and considered solid but not necessarily
very innovative in his approach.  His works are all published by Dar
al-Ma'arif in Cairo.  To the best of my knowledge, he is based in Cairo.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:17:05 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:17:05 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Cookbook response
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject: Cookbook response

Dear David,

The way to a student's mind is through his/her stomach, huh?

I may be able to help you. I know of a book and CD-ROM combo,
the CD is in English, Arabic, and French; the book is in English,
I think. Give me a call, "We Speak Arabic".

AhLan Wa SahLan,

George N. Hallak
http://www.aramedia.com
mailto:info at aramedia.com
T 617-825-3044 F 265-9648
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:15:56 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:15:56 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Writing in Arabic Query
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Kirk Belnap <rkb at email.byu.edu>
Subject: Writing in Arabic Query: studies, practical reference works...

Some of you will recall my exploratory queries about Arab linguistic
avoidance behavior.  One aspect of this research that fascinates me is the
fact that there appear to be emerging "standards" or norms of usage,
practices or preferences I suspect are not likely to be taught in school.
I would like to know if you are aware of studies addressing this sort of
thing.  Also, I would be interested to know if practical "how-to" manuals
are commercially available in bookstores in the Arab world.  I'd also be
interested in getting in touch with individuals (editors, for example) you
might recommend as having their finger on the pulse of the evolution of
written Arabic.  Email addresses would be much appreciated.

wa-shukran,

Kirk

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:14:50 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:14:50 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Arabic Speech Recognition Query
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Riad Saba <saba at balamand.edu.lb>
Subject: Arabic Speech Recognition Query

          I am a researcher from University of Balamand,  Lebanon
working on a machine translator English<-->Arabic.
What work has been done on arabic speech recognision? Thank you
Riad Saba
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:25:09 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:25:09 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Monterey Institute Summer Program
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: silp at miis.edu
Subject: Monterey Institute Summer Program

Monterey Institute of International Studies offers elementary, intermediate
and this summer by special request advanced Arabic language courses in an
eight-week Summer Intensive Langauge Program, June 27-August 23, 2000.

Custom, one-on-one instruction is available any time during the year; call
or write for more information.

Contact:

Summer Session Office
Monterey Institute of International Studies
425 Van Buren St.
Monterey CA 93940
(831) 647-4115  Fax: 831-647-3534
silp at miis.edu
web site: silp.miis.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:12:27 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:12:27 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Distance Learning Arabic Grades 4-5 Query
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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: marym at ccat.sas.upenn.edu (Mary. Martin)
Subject: Distance Learning Arabic Grades 4-5 Query

The Middle East Center is working with the school district of Philadelphia
-both the offices of Instructional Media Technology and Curriculum
Support-World Languages Education to try to establish an interactive
distance learning program in Arabic via the School districts cable
network for grades 4-6.

Are any of you aware of any  similar programs such as this already going
on anywhere in the country (or world, for that matter)? If so, I'd
be grateful for information on the program and how to contact those
connected with it...

Many thanks
Mary Martin
Assistant Director
Middle East Center
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 13 23:20:10 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:20:10 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:jiim/giim
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2) Subject: jiim/giim

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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: "Samia S. Montasser" <sam231 at gwis2.circ.gwu.edu>
Subject: jiim/giim

I would like to add here, that I have a Yemeni and an Omani students in my
"Modern Arabic Short Stories" class. Neither of them went to Egypt or had
an Egyptian teacher before. Both pronounce it as /giim/ and not /jiim/.
When I asked them, they said in the regions they came from, almost
everyone pronounces it as /giim/.
There is a dissertation at Georgetown by Sayyed Othman, I have not read
it, on the phonology in Sibawaih's book. He, Othman, told me that the
description of how this consonant is produced is that of a /giim/ and not
a /jiim/.
It is said that some tribes in Arabia used to say /jiim/ and some /giim/.
Wallaahu 'a3lam.
Samia Montasser

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Date: 13 Apr 2000
From: Heba Aboul-Enein <haboulenein at hotmail.com>
Subject: jiim/giim

Greetings.

The jeem is seldomly used in Standard Egyptian Arabic. You don't hear it so
much in the media. It is used in some upper Egyptian dialects, e.g., the
name /9abdil gawaad/ becomes /9abdil jawaad/. Moreover, the qaaf sound is
sometimes represented as geem as in the word `able' /qaadir/ in classical
Arabic which becomes /?aadir/ with a glottal stop in Cariene Egyptian and
/gaadir/ in some upper Egyptian peasants dialects. It is even surprising
that the same word could be heard in some parts of Egypt as /yadir/ with the
/y/ sound (voiced uvular fricative as in the word /yabi/ or stupid).

So you can hear jeem or geem in Egypt with no much difference. However,
using the jeem in the TV or radio gives the impression that the person is
well-versed in Arabic or that he has lived for quite some time in the gulf
area.

Heba Aboul-Enein

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 18 18:49:29 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:49:29 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Proficiency Test Query
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Date: 18 Apr 2000
From: fhassan at texas.net (Fatme Hassan)
Subject: Proficiency Test Query

Does anyone know about a well developed Arabic proficiency test that has
been used and proven accurate with students of the Arabic language?
Thanks in advance for your input.

Fatme' Charafeddine Hassan

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 18 18:50:36 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:50:36 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Active Knowledge query
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Date: 18 Apr 2000
From: Haseeb Shehadeh <Haseeb.Shehadeh at helsinki.fi>
Subject: Active Knowledge query


Dear participants,

I would like to raise the following issue for discussion. Do you think that an
active knowledge (reading, writing, speaking) of MSA and one modern Arabic
dialect is perquisite or essential for all university teachers of Arabic
language and literature, holders of M.A., Ph.D.and professors alike.
h. Shehadeh

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:41:50 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:41:50 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:Comoros Help Plea
Message-ID: <THU.20.APR.2000.154150.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: "Ahmed Aboudou" <ahmed at francenet.fr>
Subject: Comoros Help Plea

AS ALAAMU ALAYKUM   I represent a Muslim association. We leave in
France but we come from Comoros Islands, a Muslim contry; so excuse
me but I don't speak English very well but I will just try with
simple words to ask you for some help. In Comoros, people must take their
local development upon themselves in all structures. We are looking
for help all over the world about material or money to build study
offices, or hospitals, young offices, prayer offices and Islamic
schools. We also started to set in place television in our village
but we need some Muslim programs like prayer lessons, Qurans, Islam
for women and for all, children's program in audio CD and video K7.
So, could you help us on sending us some CD and video, or if  you
can't, could you talk around you about our project or give us
some names of associations who can help us ?

Thank you for all your help and see you back soon, Inshaa Allah
Taanla,

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:44:03 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:44:03 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Instruction in Dallas Area Query
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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: Wael Doukmak <wd at arabic.com>
Subject: Arabic Instruction in Dallas Area Query

Hello,
?
I got the following inquiry through my website
<http://www.arabic.com>www.arabic.com .? Can you help?? Please reply to me
on or off the list and I will pass the info to the lady who contacted me.
?
She did not wish to be contacted by the list when I offered to simply
forward her message to the list.
?
?
?
E-mail I got from the lady follows:
____________
Hello!? I spoke with you over the phone about wanting to begin learning
Arabic this summer.? I will be living in Irving Texas, right outside of
Dallas.? I would greatly appreciate any program (or professor!) you might
be able to find in the Dallas/Ft worth area.?
Thank you so much for your help.
Name withheld
____________
?
Shukran Jazilan,
?
?
Wael Doukmak

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:45:24 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:45:24 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Job:Arabic Speaking Moderator
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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject: Job:Arabic Speaking Moderator

Dear List Members,

I have received the following inquiry from an eager client.
Please let me or him directly (carbon copy me), if you
can help or if you know of someone who can help. They
will pay heftily, I learned.

>>
 My client wants  to conduct focus group research using an Arabic speaking
moderator, trained and experienced in moderating and reporting such research.
Must speak fluent English as well. Groups will be conducted in Detroit but
client will hold meetings in Boston. I'd welcome information on any qualified
candidates.
Thanks for your help,

Michael Cosgrove, Ph.D.
Executive Vice President
Low + Associates, Inc.
5454 Wisconsin Ave., Suite 1400
Chevy Chase, MD 20815
301-951-9200
301-986-1641(fax)
>>
Thanks for you help.
Best Regards,
George N. Hallak
AramediA Group
761 Adams Street
Boston, MA 02122, USA

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:50:08 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:50:08 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Proficiency Test Responses
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1) Subject: Proficiency Test Response
2) Subject: Proficiency Test Response
3) Subject: Proficiency Test Response

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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject: Proficiency Test Response

Greetings / tahaiya tayyiba wa b3ad...

Depending on which skills (and dialects, in some cases) in the Arabic
language are needed for evaluation and rating, the two proficiency tests that
are most familiar to me are:

o  Defense Language Proficiency Test (DLPT) - tape/Q&A reponse and reading.
Test proficiencies in MSA only

o  Oral proficiency interview (OPI) - an interview administered either
face-to-face (usually by a panel) or via telephone.  An OPI's contents can
cover MSA and/or a regional dialect (if qualified interviewers are available
in the dialect).

Those types of tests are used by the

o  Defense Language Institute, Foreign Language Center (DLIFLC) at the
Presidio of Monterey, CA

and

o  U.S. Department of State

Results are used to assess / rate / record / report / manage the proficiency
of their language students and personnel in "language-designated" positions.

There are some variants useful for the testing of
second-generation/"heritage" speakers of foreign languages to insure coverage
of their vocabularies and communication skills.

Hope this helps.

Khair, in sha' Allah.

Regards from Los Angeles,

Stephen H. Franke

e-mail: < mutarjm at aol.com >

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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: "Dr. Sonia Soliman" <g_sonias at qualcomm.com>
Subject: Proficiency Test Response

         In answer to Fatme's question. I like to inform you that a
colleague of mine and I have developed  the Arabic VOCI,  an oral test for
language proficiency. Although the main objective of the test is the
examination of the student's oral proficiency,  it could also be applied
for written proficiency.

         The test is divided into four separate parts from Level 1 to 4.
For each level, the questions vary from basic into advanced.  Based on the
principles and the recommendations of the AATA, the test examine the
competence of the student in the areas of understanding,and communication.
If given as a written exam, it would cover the reading, writing,
comprehension and  speaking.

         The test was designed for the Navy Seals. It consists of a video
in which two people: a young girl and a young man ask  a variety of
questions to the student.  The student answers the question on a tape in a
specific amount of time. The number of minutes changes depending on the
difficulty of the question. The student can change his answer within the
time limit; however, he cannot go back to the question once the time is up
or other questions have been posed.

         The test ends with a series of situations from easy ones to more
complicated. It tests  the elements of vocabulary and the grammatical areas
assigned to each level. Even though, the test  is mainly an oral one, the
same questions could be asked for a written examination and consequently,
achieve the same goal.

         If you need more information, feel free to ask.

         Sonia Ghattas-Soliman

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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: Dil Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject: Proficiency Test Response

Dr. Raji Rammuny developed a written Arabic Proficiency Test a number of
years ago, and I think it is still available from him or from the
University of Michigan.  He later developed, with a government grant, a
SOPI test for Arabic (an OPI that uses a tape rather than an interviewer)
and he also has information on the availability of that test.  I don't have
his e-mail available right now, but maybe one of our subscribers could
provide it.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:40:21 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:40:21 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:AIDA web site and summaries
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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: Catherine Miller <miller at mmsh.univ-aix.fr>
Subject: AIDA web site and summaries

Aida has a web site where most of the summaries of the communication can be
found.
http://www.fusion.net.ma/aida

The proceedings will be published soon in Marrakesh
the proceedings of Aida 3 in Malta have also came out

the new version of the Aida newsletter will appear in the web site...

C. Miller

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Apr 20 22:42:46 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:42:46 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Feedback in Spoken Arabic Query
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Date: 20 Apr 2000
From: Abdullah Samarah <abdullah at ling.gu.se>
Subject: Feedback in Spoken Arabic Query

    Dear Sir/s, I am looking for any latest book, or information
       regarding Arabic spoken language, and more preciesly, in
       Feedback phenomenon in Arabic spoken language. If you can help
       me by any way, I will be grateful to you, and you can contact
       me through the following address.

       All the best,

       Abdullah J:
       Linguistic Dept,
       GBG University
       SWEDEN
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 23:26:21 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:26:21 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Bitar book query
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Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: yara khoury <equality7176 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Bitar book query

Hello everyone,

I am doing some research about the phoenician alphabet.
A book has been suggested to me titled 'al abjadiyah al phinikiyah wa l khat
al arabi' by Elias Bitar, but no mention of the publisher house so as to
locate it.
Does anyone know the publisher of this particular book?

Thank you,
Yara
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 23:27:17 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:27:17 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Kahramana query
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Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: Fred <fredlag at worldnet.fr>
Subject: Kahramana query

has anyone any information on the Iraki feminist Kahramana? (works,
biographical info, etc...)
Thanks in advance

Frederic Lagrange
Departement d'Etudes Arabes
Paris IV

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 23:27:58 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:27:58 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Proficiency Test response
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Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject: Proficiency Test response

We do have on our site http://aramedia.com/edistance.htm
an online Arabic Proficiency test, and it is Free. Give it a try,
and if it satisfies your needs, I will put you in touch with its
developers Mrs. Sanaa Ghanem of Edumagic Distance
Learning Course (Online). Mrs. Ghanem is the teacher of Arabic
at the American University of Cairo, Egypt.

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak
AramediA Group
http://www.aramedia.com
mailto:info at aramedia.com
T 617-825-3044 F 265-9648

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 23:25:35 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:25:35 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Books
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1) Subject: New Books

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Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: "John Benjamins Publishing Co." <promotion at benjamins.com>
Subject: New Books

John Benjamins Publishing announces the availability of the following new
work on Arabic:
Perspectives on Arabic Linguistics XII.
Papers from the Twelfth Annual Symposium on Arabic Linguistics,
Urbana-Champaign, Illinois, 1998.
Elabbas BENMAMOUN (ed.)
Current Issues in Linguistic Theory 190
1 55619 967 8 / USD 75.00 (Hardcover)
90 272 3696 8 / NLG 150.00 (Hardcover)
The papers in this volume deal with various topics in Arabic Linguistics.
Most of the papers focus on new issues and introduce new empirical
generalizations that haven't been studied before within the context of
Arabic linguistics. The syntax and morphosyntax papers explore issues
ranging from the nature of extraction strategies to various types of
Construct State representations and the proper analysis of the
distribution of the nominal, adjectival and verbal mophological features.
The computational linguistics papers focus on the challenge posed by the
non-concatenative nature of Arabic morphology. The authors illustrate how
their programs can handle Arabic morphology. The papers in
morpho-phonology and historical linguistics deal with the development of
the Arabic complementizer system and the empirical and theoretical
problems that arise in the context of hypocoristic formation in Arabic.
The sociolinguistics papers take up the issues of sociolinguistic
variation as they pertain to the phenomenon of diglossia and regional uses
of the Standard variety of Arabic.
Contributions by: Joseph Aoun; Kenneth R. Beesley; Lina Choueiri; Jamil
Daher; Stuart Davis; Peter Hallman; Zeinab Ibrahim; George Anton Kiraz;
Mohammad Mohammad; Dilworth B. Parkinson; David Testen; Bushra Adnan
Zawaydeha.

John Benjamins Publishing Co.
Offices: Philadelphia Amsterdam:
Websites: http://www.benjamins.com http://www.benjamins.nl
E-mail: service at benjamins.com customer.services at benjamins.nl
Phone: +215 836-1200 +31 20 6762325
Fax: +215 836-1204 +31 20 6739773
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 21:34:43 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:34:43 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:SOAS Programs
Message-ID: <TUE.25.APR.2000.143443.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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1) Subject: SOAS Programs

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Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: Sherin Abdel Halim <sa15 at soas.ac.uk>
Subject: SOAS Programs

Language Centre,
School of Oriental and African Studies
University of London
Tel UK: 020 7898 4854   World: +44 20 7898 4854
Fax UK: 020 7898 4889   World: +44 20 7898 4889
Summer School 2000 at SOAS Language Centre:
http://www.soas.ac.uk/languagecentre/tt/summer.html

The SOAS Language Centre is now accepting applications for 1/2/4 week
intensive Courses in Modern Standard Arabic and in Cairean Arabic for
Summer 2000.

One-week Survival courses in Modern Standard Arabic/Colloquial Egyptian Dialect

Course:	1-week Survival
DATE:	03-Jul-07-Jul
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	23-Jun
Fee:	?250, for a total of 25 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.

Course:	1-week Survival
DATE:	31-Jul-04-Aug
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	21-Jul
Fee:	?250, for a total of 25 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.

Two-week Intensive Courses in Modern Standard Arabic/Colloquial Egyptian
Dialect

Course:	2-week Intensive
DATE:	31-Jul-04-Aug
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	 23-Jun
Fee:	?500,  for a total of 50 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.

Course:	2-week Intensive
DATE:	31-Jul-11-Aug
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	21-Jul
Fee:	?500, for a total of 50 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.

The Four Week Arabic Courses - A general preparation for communicating in
Modern Standard Arabic/Colloquial Egyptian Dialect.

Course:	4-week Intensive
DATE:	03-Jul-28-Jul
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	23-Jun
Fee:	?1000, for a total of 100 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.

Course:	4-week Intensive
DATE:	31-Jul-25-Aug
Time:	9.30am - 4pm
Apply by:	21-Jul
Fee:	?1000, for a total of 100 hours of tuition,
	including materials.  VAT is not payable.


SELF-ACCESS LEARNING:
The Resources Room is open to Language Centre students free of charge. It
contains audio listening and recording facilities, reception of various
satellite TV and radio stations (including BBC World Service radio
programmes), computers with Internet access, and an increasing range of
computer-based language learning software. Students are encouraged to use
the facilities in their own time in order to build upon skills learnt in
the classroom.

TO APPLY for the Language Centre's Summer Intensive Courses you can:
1.  Print out our application form in Acrobat PDF format fill it in and fax
or post it back to us (Payment must accompany your  application form).
2.  E-mail, telephone, fax or write in for an application form.

*The Univ. Of London accommodation page is at:
http://www.lon.ac.uk/accom/    and this is linked from SOAS Language Centre
Summer timetable pages.


HOW TO CONTACT US:
http://www.soas.ac.uk/centres/languagecentre/arabic
E-mail:	 	languages at soas.ac.uk
Telephone:	UK: 020 7898 4888
		World:  +44 20 7898 4888
Fax:		UK: 020 7898 4889
		World:  +44 20 7898 4889
Post:		The Courses Secretary
               		Language Centre
                 	School of Oriental and African Studies:
	Thornhaugh Street
                 	Russell Square
                 	LONDON
                 	WC1H OXG

........................................................................
Sherin Abdel Halim
Co-ordinator of Arabic Language Courses
Language Centre, SOAS, University of London

Tel:  UK  	020 7898 4888  OR	020 7898 4858
Fax:  UK  	020 7898 4889

Check our Language Centre Arabic courses at:
http://www.soas.ac.uk/centres/languagecentre/arabic

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Apr 25 21:33:30 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:33:30 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:AIDA Info
Message-ID: <TUE.25.APR.2000.143330.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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1) Subject: AIDA Info

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Date: 25 Apr 2000
From: Uri Horesh <urihores at post.tau.ac.il>
Subject: AIDA Info


Dear colleagues,

If any of you are interested in receiving communications from AIDA
(Association Internationale de Dialectologie Arabe), and have not provided
contact information during the past two conferences (in Malta and/or
Marrakech), kindly e-mail your name, address and e-mail address to
<urihores at post.tau.ac.il>.

If you are registered, but have moved or changed e-mail addresses, you are
also requested to update us.

Please note that there is a membership fee of FF200, collected every other
year at the AIDA conference. Details will be provided when you send us your
contact information.

Yours,
Uri Horesh

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 26 17:13:33 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:13:33 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:ALS 2001 Query
Message-ID: <WED.26.APR.2000.101333.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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1) Subject: ALS 2001 Query
2) Subject: ALS 2001 Plea

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1)
Date: 26 Apr 2000
From: Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject: ALS 2001 Query

Hi,
  Does anybody know when the next "Annual Symposium on Arabic Linguistics"
will be held??

cheers,
andy

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2)
Date: 26 Apr 2000
From: Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject: ALS 2001 Plea

The Arabic Linguistics Society  is currently looking for a venue to hold
its next annual symposium.  It will be held sometime near the first weekend
of March, 2001. Last years call for papers was very late, which caused
untold problems, so we would like this year to nail down a venue by the
early part of the summer.  If your institution would consider hosting this
symposium, please send me an e-mail, and I will send you further details.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 26 15:55:28 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:55:28 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Bitar book response
Message-ID: <WED.26.APR.2000.085528.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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1) Subject: Bitar book response

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1)
Date: 26 Apr 2000
From: Frank Unlandherm <unlandhe at columbia.edu>
Subject: Bitar book response

The book was published privately by the author in Damascus in 1997. If
you are looking for it, search the author as Baytar, Ilyas and the
title as: Abjadiyah al-Finiqiyah...

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Apr 26 17:09:27 2000
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth B. Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:09:27 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING/PEDA:AUC Conf on Contrastive Rhetoric
Message-ID: <WED.26.APR.2000.100927.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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1) Subject: AUC Conf on Contrastive Rhetoric

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Date: 26 Apr 2000
From: zeinabib <zeinabib at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: AUC Conf on Contrastive Rhetoric

THE AMERICAN UNIVERSITY IN CAIRO

 THE SECOND INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE
 ON CONTRASTIVE RHETORIC

THEME:

LINGUISTICS, CULTURE AND TEACHING

March 22-24, 2001

CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
PREORGANIZED PANELS AND INDIVIDUAL PAPERS

Submission deadline:	  September 10, 2000

Proposals for presentations related to both the theory and practice of
language learning and teaching are invited in any of the following topic
areas:

Integrating  culture in language teaching	Sociolinguistics
Comparative research				Discourse analysis
Teaching pedagogy					Translation


Conference Committee:
	Dr. S. Aydelott		Dr. Z. Ibrahim		Ms. N. Kassabgy
	Freshman Writing Program	Arabic Language Institute
English Language Institute

	The American University in Cairo
	113 Sharia Kasr El Aini
	Cairo,    Egypt
	e-mail:    CRCONF at aucegypt.edu





SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL


1.	Complete the proposal form

2.	Include a 250-word attachment on a separate sheet of paper.
	If there is more than one presenter, include the biographical
	information of the joint presenters on a separate sheet of
	paper.

3.	Mail or Email complete proposals to:

 Dr. S. Aydelott, Dr. Z. Ibrahim or Ms. N. Kassabgy
The American University in Cairo
113 Sharia Kasr el Aini
Cairo, Egypt

Email:  CRCONF at aucegypt.edu

For electronic submission of proposals, watch out for details on the

AUC Website at
www. aucegypt.edu

DEADLINE FOR SUBMISSION OF PROPOSALS

SEPTEMBER 10, 2000

For further information, contact
Ms. Maida Torosian
maidat at aucegypt.edu



PRESENTATION PROPOSAL

DETAILS OF PRESENTER(S)
Main Presenter:

Name:	______________________________________________________
Affiliation:	______________________________________________________
Address:	______________________________________________________
		______________________________________________________
		______________________________________________________
Telephone:	______________________________________________________
Email:	_________________________  Fax:  _______________________

Joint Presenter(s) if relevant:

	Name						Institutional
Affiliation
___________________________________		___________________________
___________________________________		___________________________
___________________________________		___________________________
___________________________________		___________________________

DETAILS OF PRESENTATION:
Title of Presentation:
_____________________________________________________________________

Abstract (250 words maximum):
1.	Type abstract on a separate sheet of paper.
2.	Include the following on the top left-hand corner:
	A.   Presenter(s) name
	B.   Title of Presentation
	C.   Topic Area of Presentation

Summary for Program Book (50 words maximum)
Please type





Biographical Information for Program Book (50 words maximum):
If there is more than one presenter, please include information for EACH
presenter using a separate sheet of paper:

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