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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:31:53 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Young Leb. Authors on Civil War Query
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1) Subject:Young Leb. Authors on Civil War Query

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Ulla Prien <prien at hum.ku.dk>
Subject:Young Leb. Authors on Civil War Query

In connection with the planing of a study trip for students to Syria  
and Lebanon, we´re reading fictional descriptions (novels,  
short stories, poetry etc.) dealing with the Civil War in Lebanon but  
we are very much at a loss concerning younger not so established  
authors. Could you recommend or just mention anyone from the younger  
generation minus 40 and at least minus 50 generation dealing with this  
subject?
 
If some of these authors have been translated into a major European  
Language, preferably English it would be even better as our students  
come from different levels and subjects and not everybody studies  
Arabic. 
 
thanks a lot in advance
 
sincerely
 Ulla Prien 
mailaddress>
prien at hum.ku.dk
University Instructor
the Carsten Niebuhr Institute
Copenhagen
 Denmark

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:31:49 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:31:49 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:COOP Grants program Deadline
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1) Subject:COOP Grants program Deadline

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Elizabeth Schultz <Eschultz at nafsa.org>
Subject:COOP Grants program Deadline

The Cooperative Grants Program (COOP) at NAFSA: Association of
International
Educators is accepting proposals for its Incentive Grant competition.
Incentive Grants are awards of up to $10,000.  Proposals must be
received by
January 10, 2003.

THE PROGRAM

Since 1974, COOP has provided funding for campus and community initiated
cultural enrichment programs that involve post-secondary international
and/or U.S. study abroad students.  COOP has awarded more than $2
million
for more than 870 projects across the United States.  Over 450,000
international and U.S. students, community members, K-12 students, and
university faculty and staff have participated in these innovative,
"beyond-the-classroom," intercultural projects.  COOP grants are made
available through funding from the Bureau of Educational and Cultural
Affairs of the United States Department of State under the authority of
the
Fulbright-Hays Act of 1961, as amended.

COOP invites proposals from U.S.-based institutions of higher education
and
non-profit organizations for innovative projects that:

* encourage international students and scholars attending U.S. colleges
and
universities to become involved in and knowledgeable about U.S. culture
and
society apart from their study/research programs;

* enhance the experience of U.S. students involved in study abroad
prior to
their departure or upon their return; and/or

* stimulate and strengthen interaction among international students,
their
U.S. peers, faculty, and communities.

2002-2003 GRANT THEMES

While all proposals submitted to COOP that meet the selection criteria
will
be considered, the Cooperative Grants Committee will give priority to
grant
proposals that address any of the themes below.

*  U.S. society and values, including pluralism, diversity,
volunteerism,
religious tolerance, the partnership of the public and private sectors,
and
the arts and cultural heritage of the U.S.

* Democracy and human rights, including the U.S. elections process, the
role
of the media, and the rule of law and administration of justice

* U.S. economy and international trade issues

* U.S.-Muslim intercultural awareness

INFORMATION AND MATERIALS

Application materials, grant writing resources and the COOP Model
Program
List are available on the NAFSA web site at www.nafsa.org/coop or
contact
COOP staff at coop at nafsa.org.   COOP staff are also available to discuss
project ideas and to answer questions about application requirements.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:31:55 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:31:55 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Book
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1) Subject:New Book:Language Education Policy: The Arab Minority in
Israel

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:New Book: Language Education Policy: The Arab Minority in Israel

Title: Language Education Policy
Subtitle: The Arab Minority in Israel
Series Title: Language Policy
			
Publication Year: 2002
Publisher: Kluwer Academic Publishers
            http://www.wkap.nl/, http://www.kluweronline.com		
			
Book URL: http://www.wkap.nl/prod/b/1-4020-0585-7

Author: Dr. Muhammad Hasan Amara, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan and
	Beit Berl College, Kefar Sava, Israel
Author: Dr. Abd Al-Rahman Mar'i, Beit Berl College, Kefar Sava, Israel
				
Hardback: ISBN: 1402005857, Pages: 221, Price: EUR 88.00 / USD 81.00 /
	  GBP 55.00
			
Abstract:

The Israeli reality points to a number of deep divisions among the
population (such as between Sephardi-Ashkenazi, Orthodox-secular,
men-women, Arab-Jew), most of which, in our opinion, are progressively
decreasing as time passes. The Arab-Jewish divide is the deepest of
all, and there is still no solution. In spite of its intensity, it did
not enjoy a centrality whether in public debates or in academia. This
subject has only come on the agenda after sharp tensions between Arabs
and Jews.

In this book we will explore in more detail some aspects of the
Arab-Jewish divide, which raise fundamental questions regarding the
place of the Arabs and Arab language education in the Jewish
State. More specifically, the aim of this book is to describe and
analyze language education in the Arab society in Israel from the
establishment of the state in 1948 until today. For this purpose,
internal processes, which are embedded within the Arab population
itself were examined, such as the socio-economic condition of the
population, the diglossic situation in the Arabic language, and the
wide use of Hebrew among Arabic speakers. Furthermore, the book also
deals with external processes such as the policy of control and
inspection of the Ministry of Education over the Arab education system
in general and on language education in particular, the dominance of
Hebrew, and the definition and perception of Israel as a Jewish
State. The influence of both internal and external processes on
language education and learning achievements will also be extensively
discussed. A comprehensive examination was made of Arabic, Hebrew and
English, as well as the teaching of French in a number of community
schools.

The target group for this book are people who are concerned with
sociolinguistics, language education, and language policy and
planning. This book will be also of special interest to Arab language
teachers and policy-makers in Israel.

Contents

Preface by the Series Editors (Bernard Spolsky & Elana Shohamy).
Preface.
Acknowledgements.
List of Tables.
List of Figures.
1. Introduction.
2. The Arabs in Israel: Internal and Regional Developments.
3. The Linguistic Repertoire: Sociolinguistic and Political Aspects.
4.Policy and Teaching Arabic as a Mother Tongue.
5. Policy and Teaching Hebrew as a Second Language.
6. Policy and Teaching English as a First Foreign Language.
7. Policy and Teaching French as a Second Foreign Language.
8. Language Attitudes and Ideologies.
Epilogue.
Appendix I.
Appendix II.
Bibliography.
Subject Index.

Lingfield(s):   Historical Linguistics
		Sociolinguistics
			
Subject Language(s):  Arabic, Standard (Language code: ABV)

Written In:  English (Language Code: ENG)

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:01 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:01 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:WOCMES
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1) Subject:WOCMES

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Guenter Meyer <G.Meyer at Geo.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Subject:WOCMES

Dear colleague,

After the great success of the First World Congress for Middle Eastern
Studies (WOCMES), which brought more than 2000 scholars from 52
countries to the University of Mainz (see www.wocmes.de), it is planned
that the Second WOCMES will be held in the Middle East or Europe in
autumn 2005 or spring 2006. The Third WOCMES is due in 2008/2009.

All institutions which are interested in hosting one of these two world
congresses are kindly requested to contact the WOCMES-Secretariat and to
provide the following information:

- Name and address of the institution; persons responsible for the
organisation of the World Congress;

- Previous experience in hosting conferences;

- Proposed location of WOCMES (accessibility and distance to nearest
international airport, availability of lecture halls for 20 - 25
parallel sessions and 1500 - 2000 participants);

- Accommodation (number of hotel rooms close to the WOCMES location,
range of hotel prices, availability of low-cost accommodation for
students);

- Financial matters (expected registration fee; prospects of financial
support from public sources or private institutions; chance to get
reduced air fares; availability of travel grants for low-income paper
presenters);

- Proposed date of WOCMES (taking into consideration regular major
conferences on the Middle East, holiday seasons, start and end of
university terms, major religious festivities, weather conditions);

- Possibility to arrange an attractive program of cultural events and
sightseeing tours.

Please send this information to wocmes at geo.uni-mainz.de before 10
January 2003.

Yours sincerely
Guenter Meyer

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:06 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:06 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Fundraising Advice responses
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1) Subject:Fundraising Advice response
2) Subject:Fundraising Advice response

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:"Ahmed.I.S" <ibhims20002 at yahoo.com>
Subject:Fundraising Advice response

 Dear Dr Sawsan Hosny, Ph. D.=A0,

It gives us a great pleasure to learn that there is new course of  
Arabic language establishing around the globe. As far as I know , I may  
suggest that you may contact an Arab governments such as UAE, Saudi,  
Kuwait,  with an official letter to the Skiek Zayed the governor of  
United Arab Emirate or Dr Sultan,  one of the governor  of United Arab  
Emirate  . Last  year August -Sept when I visited Exeter University at  
UK for CALL  conference,  

 Thank you and Regards
Ibrahim Suliman Ahmed- (Arabic lecturer)

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Hammoud Salah Civ USAFA/DFF <Salah.Hammoud at usafa.af.mil>
Subject:Fundraising Advice response

It is frustrating to hear of  departments or institutions which  
"approve"
Arabic programs or courses without the financial backing necesssary to  
get
them going. I am sure there must be ways this is done and channels that  
can
be pursued in New Zealand that many of us here in the US are completely
unaware of, not knowing what the local context is like.

And these days with funding sources for Arabic and Islamic studies being
under particular scrutiny, the best way is to tap the local heritage
communities, which include business, civic and religious organizations  
but
more at the grassroots level. They have a stake in taking ownership of  
the
"course" and will hopefully come through. In addition, some accredited
diplomatic missions from Arab countries, the Arab League of States, the
Islamic Science, Education and Culture Organization, etc. might have  
some
grant monies they are willing to devote to the teaching of
Arabic and Islam.

I realize this is more of a message of empathy and wishfull thinking  
than of
concrete help, but I truly hope that your attempts at sensitizing the  
Arab
and Muslim community will lead to some results for you. Grassroots  
efforts
can really make a difference.

Good luck!

Salah Hammoud.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:31:58 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:31:58 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs Beginning Arabic Syllabus and Instructor
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1) Subject:Needs Beginning Arabic Syllabus and Instructor

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: John Eisele <jceise at wm.edu>
Subject:Needs Beginning Arabic Syllabus and Instructor

Please respond to the following request for information--
 
 > >Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:16:59 -0500
 > >From: saul rosenstreich <susaul at peconic.net>
 > >X-Sender: "saul rosenstreich" <susaul at mail.peconic.net> (Unverified)
 > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-NECCK  (Win95; U)
 > >X-Accept-Language: en
 > >Subject: Request for information
 > >
 > >I am chair of Foreign Languages and Literature at Dowling College in  
New
 > >York.  Our department offers courses in French, Italian, Russian and
 > >Spanish.  It is time for us to offer a course in Beginning Arabic.   
Whom
 > >can I contact to help me write a sample syllabus and locate a  
potential
 > >adjunct instructor of Arabic?
 > >
 > >Susan L. Rosenstreich
 > >Associate Professor of Foreign Languages
 > >Department of Foreign Languages and Literature
 > >Dowling College
 > >Oakdale, New York  11769
 > >USA

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:08 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Computer Framework query
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: "AhmedComputer Framework query

Dear colleagues,
 I am doing research on ìComputer in Educationî. I in need of the  
ìComputer Framework for both Multimedia and the Internet. I do hope you  
may refer me to any site in the web. Looking forward to hearing from  
you.
Thank you and Regards
Ahmed.I.S-IIUM

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:10 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:10 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Ma'arri book identification
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:jolandaguardi <jolandaguardi at iol.it>
Subject:Ma'arri book identification

dear Udaba',
in a book of Nuruddin Farah, Maps, I found a reference to a book of  
Al-Ma'arri "Letter of a Horse and a Mule".  Does anyone knows what book  
is this?
Thanks
Jolanda Guardi, Milano Italy
Università di Milano e Pavia

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:18 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:18 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Tunis Summer Program
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1) Subject:Tunis Summer Program

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Fondation Universitaire Bouebdelli <intac.ult at planet.tn>
Subject:Tunis Summer Program

Located in Tunis, capital of Tunisia, a melting pot of civilizations,  
the Université Libre de Tunis, within the frame of its Faculty of Arts,  
Humanities and Human Sciences, offers tuition in standard modern Arabic  
language leading to a didactic diploma in Arabic as a foreign language.

This course, which is organized in five graded levels, is provided  
annually during the whole of the university year and is also provided  
as a summer intensive course during the month of July.

Each session covers 90 h which is validated as 6 credits, thus allowing  
to obtain 30 credits following the completion of five levels of studies.

We propose also on the campus a dormitories for foreign students during  
the summer.

For the moment, would you be kind enough to spread the information to  
the students interested in Arabic courses for next summer 2003, they  
can read a brochure at  
www.ult.ens.tn/BROCHURE/summer%20course%20arabic%20language.pdf. We are  
hoping that this partnership is in agreement with your policy for the  
development of Arabic studies and your projects.

Truly yours,

Mehdi BOUEBDELLI
Representative in External Relations

P.S : You will find all the information concerning this summer course  
on our website (English) : www.ult.ens.tn


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:13 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:13 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:NCOLCTL Final Call for Papers
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1) Subject:NCOLCTL Final Call for Papers

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: "McGinnis, Scott" <smcginnis at nflc.org>
Subject:NCOLCTL Final Call for Papers

FINAL CALL FOR PROPOSALS

National Council of Organizations of Less Commonly Taught Languages
6th National Conference

Los Angeles, California
May 2-4, 2003

Focus on the Learner in the LCTLs:  Profiles and Prospects

The Sixth National Conference of the National Council of Organizations
of Less Commonly Taught Languages (NCOLCTL) is scheduled May 2-4,
2003, at the University of California, Los Angeles

Proposals are solicited for individual papers, colloquia and poster
sessions. The formats are described below. Proposals should fall
broadly within the Conference theme of "Focus on the Learner in the
LCTLs: Profiles, Motivations and Opportunities."  Although proposed
presentations may focus on individual languages, each should address
issues that clearly relate to more than just that one language.  The
focus of session topics might include:

Heritage language learners
Bilingual education students
Autonomous and self-instructional setting students
Distance education students;

Proposals on learner needs analysis are especially welcome. Other
topics such as curriculum and materials development, teacher training
and professionalization, and research studies will also be
considered.

Individual papers are 20 minutes long. A paper should focus clearly on
one or more issues related to the theme. Papers may be based on
research or practical experience.

Colloquia are 90 minutes. A colloquium proposal should specify three
or more presenters who will address one of the conference themes.
Preference will be given to panels that cut across different languages
or language groups.

Poster and presentation sessions may focus on completed work or work
in progress related to the teaching and/or learning of less commonly
taught languages.  They may be of either the traditional poster
format, such as presentation of materials or of results of research in
progress, or demonstrations of instructional or information
technology. However, any proposal requiring technical support must
specify in detail the type of hardware and software needed.

Proposals should indicate the title and kind of presentation (paper,
colloquium or poster session) in the upper left-hand corner, and the
name of the presenter and the presenter's primary language(s) in the
upper right-hand corner.  The proposed title should not exceed ten
words.  Next should be a 50-75 word abstract suitable for inclusion in
the conference program.  The proposal text should be 150-200 words
long and may not exceed one page in length.

If possible, proposals should be submitted in electronic format by
email to Scott McGinnis: smcginnis at nflc.org.  If email is not
available, proposals may be sent to the following address by hard
copy:

Scott McGinnis
National Foreign Language Center
7100 Baltimore Avenue, Suite 300
College Park, MD 20740
Phone   301-403-1750 x35
Fax      301-403-1754
Email    smcginnis at nflc.org

The final deadline for receipt of proposals is December 1, 2002.
Applicants will be notified by email within one week of the receipt of
their submissions.  They will be notified by the Program Committee by
January 15, 2003, whether their proposal has been accepted.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:16 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:16 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Dissertation
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1) Subject:New Dissertation Socioling: Berjaoui "A Study of the "ghous"
in Morocco"

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:New Dissertation Socioling: Berjaoui "A Study of the "ghous" in
Morocco"

Institution: Chouaib Doukkali University
Program: Sociolinguistics
Dissertation Status: Completed
Degree Date: 1999

Author: Nasser Berjaoui

Dissertation Title:
A Study of the "ghous" in Morocco

Dissertation URL:
http://www.geocities.com/nasserberjaoui2002/academic_degrees.htm

Linguistic Field: Sociolinguistics

Dissertation Director 1: Dominique Caubet
Dissertation Director 2: Fatima Sadiqi
Dissertation Director 3: Jilali Saib
Dissertation Director 4: Moha Ennaji

Dissertation Abstract:

This dissertation, fully based on an extensive fieldwork of eight
years, presents the rules of the Moroccan Arabic 'ghous' (a Secret
Language) of the Tafilalet (South-east of Morocco) in four parts. The
first part shows that the Tafilalet 'ghous' comprises four
multi-faceted types, namely the Substitution-Pseudo-Suffixation, the
Substitution, the Restructuration and the Inversion types, and that
the variables of localization, communities, age and sex characterize
each type. The second part discusses the rules in the encoding of
prefixless, prefixed and negated words in the four types of the
Tafilalet 'ghous'. The Substitution-Pseudo-Suffixation 'ghous' works
through the replacement of the opening consonant of the word by the
consonant of the 'ghous' and by the hosting of the replaced opening
consonant in a disguise element that is pseudo-suffixed to the
word. The Substitution 'ghous' functions through the simple
replacement of the first consonant of the word by a consonant of the
varieties of this family. The Restructuration type is based on the
deletion of the vowels of the word and on the restructuration of the
remaining consonants in terms of four distinct patterns, namely the
L-CUCI FUCI/L-CUCeC FUCeC, the MeTT-CACCI TRISA/TIFeRKUSIN, the
MeTT-CACCI, and the Te-CCICI WICI/Te-CCICeC WICeC. The Inversion type
operates by the postposing of given items in the word. The second
issue that is analysed in the second part in this study is related to
the encoding, in the four types of the Tafilalet 'ghous', of examples
that are preceded by the negational element 'ma' and/or prefixes. In
the Substitution-Pseudo-Suffixation and the Substitution 'ghous', it
is the opening consonant of the word root that is substituted. In the
Restructuration 'ghous', each sub-type encodes the parts of speech in
question in several different and flexible ways. In the Inversion
type, any elements that may precede or follow the word are taken as
part of it and are encoded accordingly. The third part shows the
encoding of long parts of speech, short parts of speech (usually
one-consonantals) and lengthened parts of speech (lengthened
one-consonantals). Long parts of speech are optionally encoded in the
Substitution-Pseudo-Suffixation as well as the Substitution
'ghous'. The Restructuration 'ghous' encodes these parts of speech in
several ways. The Inversion type operates through the encoding of
these either as separate parts of speech or as part of the word they
precede. The third part analyses the syntactic structure of the
encoded phrases, clauses and sentences in the Tafilalet 'ghous'. In
the Substitution-Pseudo-Suffixation, the Substitution and the
Restructuration 'ghous', the structures of all the forms in question
are not affected in the encoding. In the Inversion 'ghous, however,
all the sentence, the clause and the phrase structures -with the
exception of nominal and prepositional phrases- remain unchanged. In
the former case, the definite article no longer precedes the noun, and
in the latter, the preposition follows the noun. In the latter cases,
the encoding operation affects the entire phrase and not the word. The
fourth part presents a very limited extract of the fieldwork,
self-recorded, conversational and multi-functional corpora and shows
the substantial use of the 'ghous' words, sentences and entire
every-day verbal exchanges.

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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:21 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Conversion Stories in Early Narratives query
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:Conversion Stories in Early Narratives query

A professor who teaches Golden Age Spanish Literature has asked the
following:
He says that in Cervantes Don Quixote there is an inset story of a man
being imprisoned in North Africa, and being saved by a women who has
secretly converted to Christianity.  Apparently such conversion stories
were commonly used in Spanish narratives of the era, and served both an
obvious political/cultural purpose as well as several more subtle
literary ones.
His students have asked him, and he didn't know the answer, whether in
the Islamic literary tradition (any time period would do but it would
be particularly helpful if it was more or less the same time as
Cervantes) there were any similar uses in narrative of stories of
someone converting from Christianity to Islam.  He is particularly
interested in a specific reference that he could use in class or assign
the students to read.  Any help will be appreciated.  You can respond
directly to me and I will post a summary to the list.
Dil Parkinson

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:24 2002
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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:24 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs NLP research topic
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: RASHA GABER <rashagab at yahoo.com>
Subject:Needs NLP research topic

Dear linguists,
I am a young researcher interested in multilingual
NLP. I am especially interested in Arabic and English.
I do not want to embark on some useless academic
research that would be of no benefit to any one. I
would rather tackle a real problem...do something
really useful. Can you suggest a research topic?

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Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:31 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Large vocabulary response
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2) Subject:Difficulty  response
3) Subject:Large vocabulary response

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: shawky at aucegypt.edu
Subject:Large vocabulary response

Dear colleague,
My Ma thesis dealt with Arabic learning difficulty areas , major area
was
having to cope with a large number of lexis in order to acquire Arabic.
Please
see Holes ,C (1995)pp127-129 speaking of- ishtiqaq-where Holes declares
that
Arabic language is enriched with lexis that emerges out of a derivatinal
system that allows several words from the same meaning. No wonder one
the
items included in the study questionnaire was stated by one of Arabic
learners."  learning Arabic is learning enourmous vocabulary. I hope
you find
my response helpful.
Nehad Shawqy

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Michael Akard <michael_akard at hotmail.com>
Subject:Difficulty response

I, too, used to wonder about why Arabic-speaking students seemed to
master English so rapidly. A Saudi friend went so far as to tell me
that because Arabic is such a difficult language, all other languages
come easily to speakers of Arabic. And when I asked him how I could
learn Arabic, he paused, studied me for a few moments, and replied,
"Oh, I don't think you can!" The Arabic language, he explained, was
simply too difficult.

However, consideration of the respective roles of Arabic in English
society and English in Arab society sheds a little more light. Most
Anglo-Americans, for example, do not speak Arabic, have never studied
Arabic, and probably could not distinguish an Arabic text from a Farsi,
Assyrian, or Amharic text. Those who begin such language study
typically do so during their college years, long after the window of
opportunity for gaining native-like fluency has closed, so Arabic, for
them, will always be a "foreign" language.

Middle-Eastern Arabs, in contrast, typically begin studying English as
a required subject in high school or elementary school. Many attend
schools in which English is the primary language of instruction. Even
if Arabic is spoken, and even if their English language instructors are
Egyptian or Lebanese, these students are quite comfortable with the
Roman alphabet and have a broad, working knowledge of English from an
early age, so a foundation of knowledge is built that allows quick
advancement to functional fluency in English at a later time. In
addition, many professional fields, such as medicine and aviation, use
English, so the idea is present from an early age that English fluency
is part of their destiny because of its importance for future
professional success.

But even if an Arab never actively studies English until that one year
you mention in your question, English language and text is ubiquitous
in the Arab world. I speak from personal experience: when I first went
to Kuwait (where I spent three years), I looked forward to immersing
myself in the local language. But the road signs were in English, the
newspapers were in English, the television stations broadcast English
progamming -- it was practically impossible not to use English. And
since most Kuwaitis I met spoke English better than I spoke Kuwaiti
Arabic, our conversations often defaulted to English. So much for
language immersion!

These are, I believe, some of the factors involved in the relative
rapidity with which Arabic speakers learn English.

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3)
Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: suma99 at att.net
Subject:Large Vocabulary response

What Haidar Moukdad put forth as an explanation of the vocab. question
does not work for me, and the script comments don't hold up well either.
If we count vocabulary in the sense of words linguistically or
etymologically
pure to either of the respective two languages, keeping at least to a
minimum
foreign loan words, then I think Arabic is the winner. We have in
English
dictionaries words that are utterly foreign and un-anglocized, many
such words
in fact! (hors d'oeuvres, rapprochment, siesta, savoir-faire, nee, modus
operendi, etc.)Should words like these really be counted as English?

As for the reasons why maybe learners of English have an easier time
learning
to speak it than learners of arabic do; I think it's got to do with the
fact
that English has become so universal, as a lingua franca (no pun
intended), so
every one is exposed to it in some way or another. Then there is the
diglossia
problem in arabic which students must overcome.

Ismael

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:28 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:28 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Georgetown Intensive Summer Program 2003 website
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: mehalld at georgetown.edu
Subject:Georgetown Intensive Summer Program 2003 website

For information about Georgetown Universities Intensive Summer 2003
Arabic programs, please log on to the following site:

  http://www.georgetown.edu/departments/arabic/summer.htm

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:38 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:New Issue of Al-Adab
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Kirsten Idriss <kidriss at cyberia.net.lb>
Subject:New Issue of Al-Adab

Please post this information about our most recent issue:

ARAB CENSORSHIP
 (Part II): CENSORSHIP IN EGYPT

In the NOV-DEC, 2002 issue of AL-ADAB,
Arabic Literary and Cultural Review, in the Arabic Language
(#11-12/02, V.50) Published by Dar al-Adab, Beirut

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Feature File - Censorship in Egypt: Following this summer’s provocative  
file on Syrian censorship, Al-Adab offers an extensive, multiplex study  
of the censorship of creative and political expression in Egypt.  With  
the goal of moving critiques of censorship out of the realm of  
discussion and into the realm of action, 19 leading Egyptian authors,  
journalists, professors, and publishers -- including Sunallah Ibrahim,  
Edward Kharrat, Nasr Hamid Abu Zayd, Samia Mehrez, Soumaya Ramadan, and  
al-Hajj Mohammad Madbouli -- examine the infamous events and less  
notorious mechanisms of Egyptian censorship.  How does censorship  
affect teaching, reporting, movie-making, thinking, and the writing of  
books yet unwritten?  This 67 page file, packed with candid testimony  
and intensive analysis, has been prepared by Ahmad al-Khamissi.  
-- “Censorship of Egyptian Journalism: Hidden Hands But Very Harsh,”  
Karem Yahya
-- “Censorship of Creative Production: the Logic of Banning to Protect  
Society,” Hasan Atiyya
-- “At the Cinema: Censorship or Not?” Ahmad Yusif
-- “Al-Khubz al-Hafi: the Declaration of Condemnation,” Samia Mehrez
-- “Censorship and its Consequences,” Nasr Hamid Abu Zayd
-- “Censorship and Tilka al-Ra’iha,” Sun’Allah Ibrahim
-- “A Secret Communique” Wafa’ al-Masri
-- “Censorship Is a Beast Threatening Writing,” Edward al-Kharrat
-- “The Wasteland,” Sumayya Ramadan
-- “The Dream of Freedom and Change,” Yaser Sha`ban
-- “Censorship is a Mindset,” Bahijat Hussein
-- “Haidar Writes... And I Go to Prison!” Hamdi Abu Jalil
-- “The Repression of Women’s Creativity,” Na`mat al-Buhairy
-- “Egyptian Publishing Houses and Censorship,” Al-Hajj Mohammad  
Madbouli, Mohammad Hashem, Hussien `Ashur, Salah al-Malla, and Ayman  
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* Interview:
    -- Lutfia al-Dulaymi, “ Creativity is an Act Against Taming”

* Creative Writing and Essays:
    -- Original Poetry by Nazih Abu `Afash, “Beauty and the Beast”
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:50 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:50 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Thesaurus Foundation
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: "thesaurus at cmeis.cam.ac.uk" <thesaurus at cmeis.cam.ac.uk>
Subject:Thesaurus Foundation

[I apologize for the lateness of this announcement.  It arrived after I  
had already left for MESA--Dil]

Dear Colleagues,

TheThesaurus Islamicus Foundationis pleased to inform you of its recent  
association with theCentre of Middle Eastern and Islamic Studiesat the  
University of Cambridge. Henceforth the Thesaurus Islamicus  
Foundation'sSunna Project, including theHadith Encyclopaediaand  
theIHSAN Network, will be based at the Centre.

We take this opportunity to invite you to visit our stand 43 at the  
2002 MESA Conference in Washington D.C. from November 23rd to 26th.Tim  
Winter, Director of the Sunna Project and University Lecturer in  
Islamic Studies at the Faculty of Divinity, Cambridge University, will  
be there and pleased to give you more information about the project and  
to answer any queries you may have. Also attending will beProfessor S.  
Abdallah Schleiferof the American University in Cairo, Academic Liaison  
Officer of the Foundation andMustafa Gouverneur-Henry, Managing  
Director, Tradigital Cairo, the Foundation's IT administrator.

We look forward to seeing you this weekend in Washington D.C.
 
The Sunna Project,
Centre of Middle Eastern and Islamic Studies,
University of Cambridge,
Sidgwick Avenue, Cambridge CB3 9DA
United Kingdom
Tel/Fax: + 44 1223 335103
Email:thesaurus at cmeis.cam.ac.uk

 




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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:35:15 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:35:15 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Bibliography on written Arabic Diglossia query
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:Natalia Palacios  <npalacios at web.de>
Subject:Bibliography on written Arabic Diglossia query

Dear all,

I am writing my M.A. thesis on diglossia in the Egyptian magazine "Rose
al-Youssef". So far I haven't found any comparable studies. If any of
you is
aware of any literature on diglossia in modern written Arabic, that
would
greatly help me. Any other observations about the subject are welcome.

Thank you and kind regards

Natalia Palacios

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:55:41 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:55:41 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Jobs
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1) Subject:Temple University Job
2) Subject: Lots of other jobs

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1)
Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:moderator
Subject: Temple University Job

This is a one year contract, renewable upon review, pending budgetary
approval.  Candidates will teach elementary through advanced Arabic,
with interests in second language acquisition, applied linguistics,
language pedagogy or related fields.  Course load is three per
semester; candidates expected to employ instructional technology, and
be acquainted with proficiency based teaching at the college level.
Priority to applications received by December 16, 2002.  Send CV,
statement of teaching philosophy and methods, and graduate transcripts,
and three letters of recommendation to:
Director, Critical Languages
Anderson Hall, 022-38
Temple University
Philadelphia, PA  19122-6090

phone: 215-204-8268

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:moderator
Subject: Lots of other jobs

The MESA Bulletin lists quite a few Arabic related job openings.  I
will give a partial list.  Details can be had from the Bulletin, or
from the MESA employment website:

http://fp.arizona.edu/mesassoc/employment.htm

Here are the ones I saw:

American University in Cairo: Arabic Lit
Columbia: Arabic Language
Hofstra: Arabic and Comp Lit
Middlebury: Arabic Language, tenure track
Princeton: Arabic Language, lecturer
Wayne State: Arabic language and linguistics

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:32 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:32 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Conversion Story responses
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2) Subject:Conversion Story response

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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Franklin D Lewis <flewis at emory.edu>
Subject:Conversion Story response

Dil:
   There is a great example of this in Farid al-Din Attar's _Conference
of the Birds_ (Mantiq al-tayr), which Dick Davis has translated
from Persian to English verse for Penguin Classics.  The Story of
Shaykh Sam`an (pp57-75 in Penguin ed.) is about an old Muslim
man - a Sufi saint - who converts to Christianity for love a girl, but
in the end he returns to Islam and the girl converts to Islam as well.
    Attar's poem dates to the late 12th century of the common era,
and so is quite a bit earlier than Cervantes.
     yrs, Frank

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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Dwight Reynolds <dreynold at religion.ucsb.edu>
Subject:Conversion Story response

Dil,

Not a fiction account but an historical one, the autobiography of
`Abdullah al-
Turjuman (Fray Anselmo Turmeda) recounts his conversion to Islam in the
15th
century.  It is a fascinating account that has received little
attention in
English, though it is well known among Spanish scholars due to an
edition and
translation by Mikel de Epalza.

An English translation of the first chapter of the text, which recounts
the
conversion, appears in <Interpreting the Self: Autobiography in the
Arabic
Literary Tradition> (U of California Press, 2001).  The book includes 13
translated autobiographical texts plus an annotated bibliography of 140
Arabic
autobiographies dating from the 9th to the 19th centuries.  Among them
is also
the conversion autobiography of Samaw'al al-Maghribi who converted from
Judaism to Islam in the 12th century.  Both texts are essentially
polemical
works directed at the authors' former co-religionists.

In addition, leaping to more modern times, there are dozens of folk
<Qisas al-
mashayikh> performed at mulids all over Egypt that purport to be
conversion
narratives from all periods of history of Christians, Jews, and Fire-
worshippers to Islam.  I would assume that some of these can be found in
print, but don't have any citations to give you offhand. I would also
assume
that they represent the continuation of a long oral tradition of such
tales,
but again, don't have specific cites for you.

I will be interested to hear of other conversion narratives, fictional
or
otherwise.

Salamat from Granada, Spain,
Dwight

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:35 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:35 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Article
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:New Article

The journal phonology contains the following article of interest to
Arabic-L subscribers:

Publisher: Cambridge University Press
            http://www.cup.org
	
Journal Title: Phonology
Volume Number: 19
Issue Number: 1
Issue Date: May 2002

Bernard N. Bachra (2001). The phonological structure of the verbal
roots in Arabic and Hebrew. (Studies in Semitic Languages and
Linguistics 34.) Leiden: Brill. Pp. xv+326.
Stefan A. Frisch

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:37 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:37 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Book on Byzantine Muslim diplomacy
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Andreas Kaplony <kaplony at oriental.unizh.ch>
Subject:Book on Byzantine Muslim diplomacy

Dear colleagues

My  book on the first hundert years of Byzantine-Muslim diplomacy had
been
out of print for a couple of years. These days, I recieved the first
copies of the reprint. Please, enjoy reading.

All the best, Andreas Kaplony


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Andreas KAPLONY. - Konstantinopel und Damaskus: Gesandtschaften und
Vertraege zwischen Kaisern und Kalifen 639-750: Untersuchungen zum
Gewohnheits-Voelkerrecht und zur interkulturellen Diplomatie. - Berlin:
Klaus Schwarz-Verlag, 1996. 2nd, unchanged edition Berlin 2002. -
Islamkundliche Untersuchungen 208. - ISBN 3-87997-260-5. - EUR 47.00

The research deals with Byzantine-Muslim diplomacy between 639 and 750.
Its interest is not in external affairs nor in theoretical international
law, but in the unwritten rules of intercultural diplomacy, the
"technique
des relations internationales", the common law of international affairs.

The focus is on contacts between sovereign rulers. This means on the
Byzantine side the emperor, relying mainly on Constantinople and Asia
Minor, or, in the case of two emperors in competition, both of them. On
the Muslim side, the clan of the Omayyads, relying mainly on Syria,
monopolizes the contacts, beginning with Mu'awiya when amir of Syria;
their rivals in al-Kufa and in Medina do not get into touch with the
emperors.

The first part deals, one by one, with 51 embassies and treaties, as
they
are found in Greek, Latin, Arabic, Syriac and Armeniac sources,
mentioning
the sources, the references in secondary literature, the details as far
as
known of who is the ambassador, how long does he stay, how long is the
eventual treaty planned for and so on; historical embassies and treaties
are dated. The second part summarizes the first part in asking the same
questions in general.
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Rahel Halabe <rahel at telus.net>
Subject:Young Leb Authors on Civil War response

Try 'Hajr alDaHk' by Huda Barakat.
French translation is much better than the English one.

Rahel

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:51 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: "gwitty at earthlink.net"
Subject:Needs Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists

Dear udabaa'

I've been working at the Linguistic Data Consortium, which is affiliated
with
the U. of Pennsylvania, on various computational linguistics projects
dealing with Arabic.   Many of the folks who work here are professional
linguists who have never studied Arabic.  (they keep telling me they
want
to but don't have the time)  Part of what I'm doing is explaining to
them
various ways in which the Arabic language does things differently from
English.   They've asked me if there are any good general introductions
to
"how the Arabic language works,"  written for linguists.

Can anyone recommend a source or two (preferably chapter length, not a
whole book) which ideally would assume no knowledge of Arabic but is
written with an audience of linguists in mind?  There must be a
linguistics
textbook somewhere which has this sort of thing...

Thanks in advance for any ideas.
al-Mukhlis
Gordon

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Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Needs specific instructions to get PC to do Arabic
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Gaye Price <gprice at uop.edu>
Subject:Needs specific instructions to get PC to do Arabic

Dear Arabic List subscribers,
I am interested in knowing how to ready my computer (Dell with Windows
98) to do Arabic computing.  It seems to be that I need to have Windows
2000.  Does anyone know how I might go about achieving this capability
on my desktop.  I already have the keyboard printout.  I have had
several technical people attempt to do this facilitation, but they
aren't familiar with the language.  If you know this process, would you
be so kind as to share the information with me? shukran!
Gaye Price
University of the Pacific
Stockton, CA

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:43 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Beginning Arabic Syllabus response
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Mohammad <mohd at mail.ukans.edu>
Subject:Beginning Arabic Syllabus response

Dear saul rosenstreich <susaul at peconic.net>
You can contact the Yarmouk University Lanugage Center/ Jordan at
lang_cen at yu.edu.jo
They have been doing this for a long time now. Also Jordan University
has
another neat program. Contact them at
  lancen at ju.edu.jo
Best,

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:45 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:IBC url
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From:Claudette Mukalla <ibc at ibcbooks.com>
Subject:IBC url

Looking for a great website to purchase Arabic textbooks, computer  
software, literature, cookbooks, Arab history and culture, children's  
books and much more.
www.ibcbooks.com

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:56 2002
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:56 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Translation/Interpretation Programs Query
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From:Lisa Buckmaster <saxxgod at hotmail.com>
Subject:Translation/Interpretation Programs Query

Salaam.
This question has undoubtedly been asked and discussed at length here,  
but I seem to have missed out. Can anyone suggest for me a program for  
translation and (hopefully) interpretation between English and Arabic  
in the US? It seems to me that the schools that offer Arabic focus  
mainly on the teaching the language, so how do students go from Arabic  
proficiency to translation or interpretation?
 
Respectfully,
Lisa

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:31:03 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:31:03 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Ma'arri book identification responses
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: rallen at ccat.sas.upenn.edu
Subject:Ma'arri book identification response

There is an article on this work by Pieter Smoor, in the JOURNAL OF  
ARABIC
LITERATURE Volume 12 (1981):73.

ROGER ALLEN

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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Muhammad S Eissa <eissa at umich.edu>
Subject:Ma'arri book identification response

In response to the above question here is a short answer:

Yes, Abu al-Alaa has written a risaala called “Risatat al-Sahil  
wal-shaahij” and here is some information about it.

("Letter of a horse and a mule"), which among other works now lost was  
addressed to
the governor ofAleppo. This supposedly lost Risala has recently been  
discovered inMoroccoand subsequently edited with a critical apparatus  
and introduction, by `Aisha Abdel RaHman “Bint al-ShaaTi’” (Cairo1975).  
Abu 'l-‘Alaa’" completed this voluminous Risala in about 411/1021
Besides a great display of erudite learning in technical terms for  
various
phenomena in metrics and rhyme, one also finds in the Risala many  
quotations of poetry which
in some way frequently contain descriptions of animals. Such a display  
of learning and the
poetical lines quoted, though originally composed via association,  
often tend to interfere with
the smooth and logical development of events in the Risala. The same  
phenomenon can be found in the Risalat al-Ghufran which was composed at  
a later date. On the other hand, the R.
al-Ghufran is distinguished from its predecessor, the R. al-Sahil, by a  
much greater amount of irony
and derision at its protagonist and also by its greater interest shown  
in religious questions. For further details, see P. Smoor, Enigmatic  
allusion and double meaning in Ma`arri's newly- discovered Letter of a  
Horse and Mule, in JAL, xii (1981), xiii (1982).

Extract from the Encyclopaedia of Islam CD-ROM Edition v. 1.0

© 1999 Koninklijke Brill NV,Leiden, TheNetherlands

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From: Dr. M Deeb" <mdeeb at gpu.srv.ualberta.ca >
Subject:Ma'arri book identification response

Dear Miss Guardi,
 
    In response to your query, Ma'arri's book in question is very  
likely _Risaalat aS-Saahil wa'sh-ShaaHij_ (Epistle of the Neigher and  
the Brayer).  The two active participles used in the Arabic title  
denote respectively "the horse" and "the mule."  Al-Ma'arri (973 -  
1058) as well as others preface their prose works with "risaalah"  
(epistle), which in this respect stands for treatise /monograph /  
essay.  In sharp contrast, Alexander Pope, uses "essay" in the title of  
some of his poems, e.g. "Essay on Man" & Essay on Criticism."
 
    _Risaalat aS-Saahil wa'sh-ShaaHij_ is an historical and literary  
document, in which events are re-enacted by two principal actors: a  
horse and a mule.  Other "secondary actors," such as a camel, a fox, a  
hyena and a dove, participate in the dramatic representation.  Whilst  
analogies may be drawn between this work and Ibn al-Muqaffa''s _Kalilah  
wa Dimnah_ (8th. c.), the two works are essentially different.  The  
dialagues in al-Ma'arri's work address factual events in the history of  
Syria and Egypt, and revolve round historical personalities known at  
the time of composition.  Al-Ma'arri's spirit of irony deliberately  
exposes the maladies of his time, so much so that I'm reminded here of  
Orwell's _Animal Farm_.
 
                                                                M. Deeb

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:53 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Needs OCR for Arabic transcription
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Hanna Schaufelberger <hschaufe at hotmail.com>
Subject:Needs OCR for Arabic transcription

I have had trouble finding an optical character recognition program
which will be able to convert scanned text in transcribed Egyptian
Arabic into a word document or rich text formate file, since the
"regular" ocr program can not recognize the special latin characters
used for "sad","9ain" etc. as letters. Can you recommend an ocr program
which works with the latin transcription alphabet for Arabic?

Thank you very much,
H. Schaufelberger.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:59 2002
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:59 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Bibliography on Written Arabic Diglossia response
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Mohammad <mohd at mail.ukans.edu>
Subject:Bibliography on Written Arabic Diglossia response

You can check
Versteegh, K. (2001) The Arabic Language. Edinburgh UP.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:31:08 2002
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:31:08 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Large Vocabulary response
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:Large Vocabulary response

> Those who begin such language study
> typically do so during their college years, long after the window of
> opportunity for gaining native-like fluency has closed, so Arabic, for
> them, will always be a "foreign" language.

This  window of opportunity is a widely held misconception.  It should
be
noted that it takes
children fifteen years to acquire full proficiency in their native
languages.

Some say it takes adults a little less than that to acquire Arabic.
(And a
lot less for other
languages).

I began studying Arabic after the age of thirty, and  people around
here are
amazed at my
fluency.  Of course, I have the distinct advantage of living in an
environment
in which I am
surrounded by the language 24 hours a day.

It took about seven years for me to get fairly good at it, and I didn't
really
get  that way
until
I came to the Middle East.

It takes longer to learn Arabic than it does for other languages, but
it is
doable, and, as in
learning any language,  students should time in the target culture.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:04 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:04 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Textbooks history query
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: dbacherm at mail.waldenu.edu
Subject:Arabic Textbooks history query

Hello,

I am doing some research about the development or evolution of
textbooks for teaching Arabic.  Specifically, I am interested in how
and why the content and approach has changed since the mid-1900's to
the present.  Any knowledge of specific research already done on this
topic or general suggestions of where to look for such research would
be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:01 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:01 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:New Issue of Quaderni di studi arabi
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Eros Baldissera <balderos at helios.unive.it>
Subject:New Issue of Quaderni di studi arabi

New issue for QSA - Quaderni di studi arabi, n. 19 (2001) of Arabistic
Section in Cafoscari University of Venice - Italy.

INDEX QSA 19 (2001)

PATRICIA CRONE
Shuuraa as an Elective Institution, 3-39
TAYEB EL-HIBRI
The Image of the Caliph al-Waathiq: A Riddle of Religious and Historical
Significance, 41-60
OFER LIVNE- KAFRI
Fadaa’il Bayt al-Maqdis (The Merits of Jerusalem): Two Additional Notes,
61-70
ARNOUD VROLIJK
The Leiden Edition of Tabarii’s Annals. The Search for the Istanbul
Manuscripts as Reflected in Michael Jan de Goeje’s Correspondence, 71-86
MARIA PIA PEDANI
Appunti sul Consolato veneto in Marocco nella seconda metà del XVIII
secolo, 87-100
FRANCESCA LUCCHETTA
Le dieci questioni di Avicenna, 101-134
ROXANE D. MARCOTTE
L’anthropologie philosophique de Shams al-Diin al-Shahrazuurii et ses
racines suhrawardiennes: les facultés internes, 135-146
SEEGER A. BONEBAKKER
The Misery of the Men of Letters. Some Quotations from their Poetry,  
147-161
BARBARA MICHALAK-PIKULSKA
Contemporary Arabic Theatre in Kuwait and Bahrain, 163-172
JOSEPH SADAN
Background, Date and Meaning of the Story of the Alexandrian Lover and  
the
Magic Lamp, 173-192
ELISABETH ZACK
The Use of Colloquial Arabic in Prose Literature : Laban il`asfuur by
Yuusuf al-Qa`iid, 193-219
ISTVAN ORMOS
Lane’s Description of Egypt, 221-224

English Summaries in:
http://helios.unive.it/~qsa/homepage.html

Ciao, Eros

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:08 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Translation Programs response
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: "sattar.izwaini at stud.umist.ac.uk"
Subject:Translation Programs response

Hi
I am not aware of any English/Arabic translation program in the
US. However, there are many in the UK and the Middle East.

An Ideal translation program would incorporate an advanced study
of both languages and their literatures, especially in the first part of
the course. It should aim at developing the students' translation
skills throughout the course, starting from the minimum extracts
(phrases, sentences, paragraphs) to full length texts of different
types (literary, legal, scientific and technical, journalistic etc.).
The
cultural aspect should be paid attention to as well.

Interpreting demands a very good command and fluency in both
languages. Time limit makes Interpreting much more demanding
than translation. So it should be taught at the second part of the
course.

Regards
Sattar

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:11 2002
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Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:more Large vocabulary responses
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Antonio GimÈnez <huesteantigua at yahoo.es>
Subject:Large vocabulary response

Dear Munir,

Maybe you will find interesting *The Semantics of Form in Arabic, in the
Mirror of European Languages* by David Justice (1987). He says, among  
other
things, that "public understanding of Arabic has suffered from much the  
same
stereotyping and exoticism as has that of Chinese, aggravated perhaps by
political factors" (p. 7) and revises many commonplaces about Arabic and
Arabic learning.

Personally, I agree with Jan Hoogland's response. Most Arabic speakers  
and
media do not use but a small part of what is listed in Arabic  
dictionaries.
The same applies to any language with a large textual corpus. As a  
native
Spanish speaker, I cannot imagine having to use or know every Spanish  
word
included in the smallest dictionary. The thing is that many methods and
dictionaries for Arabic learners pay little or any attention to  
pragmatics
and diachronical aspects: everything is Arabic, sure, but which  
century's
Arabic? This leads many students to take their Wehr's dictionary as an
"impossible must learn", making no distinction between common words,
not-so-common words and archaisms. Nearly native ability is replaced,  
as a
desirable while difficult aim to attain, by an impossible encyclopedic
knowledge. This results in many learners clinging to their dictionaries  
to
look up every word they find without retaining any of them because they  
lack
a living experience of the language.

In other words, native speakers swim in a lake of vocabulary and just go
into "the ocean" as scholars, while learners are directly thrown into  
this
same ocean without any life jacket...

I have been teaching Spanish to Arab elementary learners, most of them
fluent in French, for 3 years and I don't think there is such a thing  
as an
Arabic native speakers' gift for other languages. As far as I am  
concerned,
optimistic results in their vocabulary achievements should be related  
to the
fact that I tried to throw them "in a swimming pool", avoiding rare  
terms.
Of course, there are many other reasons like attitude and learners'  
beliefs
about the aimed language which could be discussed.

Antonio Giménez
huesteantigua at yahoo.es

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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Michael Akard <michael_akard at hotmail.com>
Subject:Large vocabulary response

> "I began studying Arabic after the age of thirty, and† people around†  
> here are
> amazed at my fluency.†"

That's truly commendable, and I applaud your achievement. But the issue  
here is not whether an older beginner can reach a high ability level in  
Arabic, but whether such a person can acquire true native-like fluency  
-- thinking and dreaming in Arabic, and reading and writing Arabic with  
the same facility as his or her native language. I would like to think  
it is possible, but I have never heard of anyone succeeding. Would you  
say that you are truly bilingual, functioning identically in Arabic and  
English?

Michael Akard

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:18 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Arabic Translation of Samaritan Pentateuch
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Haseeb Shehadeh <Haseeb.Shehadeh at Helsinki.Fi>
Subject:Arabic Translation of Samaritan Pentateuch

Dear Colleagues,

The Arabic translation of the Samaritan Pentateuch, Critical Edition
with Introduction. Volume two: Leviticus—Deuteronomy, 2002, xii + 629
pp. The Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities.

Haseeb Shehadehís new edition, the first since the incomplete and
inadequate edition published by A. Kuenen a century and a half ago,
presents both versions on facing pages. The old version ascribed to Abu
al-Hasan al-Suri from the 11th cent. and the newer recension of Abu
Sa‘id from the 13th cent., which aimed to expunge the influence of the
Judaeo-Arabic Tafsir of Sa‘adia Gaon (882-942). Though more than 100 MSS
were scrutinized, only 22 MSS are represented in the edition. The old
version is based on MS Nablus no. 6 from 1204 and was collates against 9
other MSS. The basic text for Abu Sa‘id’s recension is MS Paris Arabe 5,
copied before the year 1514, which was collated against 11 other MSS.
The old version came down to us , as a rule, in the Samaritan script
while that of Abu Sa‘id in  Arabic characters.

	Two critical apparatuses accompany the texts, an upper one addressing
emendations of the basic texts and a lower one listing textual variants.
Trilingual prospectus is available.
H. Shehadeh

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:15 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:15 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabizing Windows 98 responses
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Paul Roochnik <paul at TranslationGuy.com>
Subject:Arabizing Windows 98 response

Gaye Price asked about doing Arabic on a PC with Win98.  To the best of
my knowledge, you must install the Arabic-enabled version of Windows
98.  After that, you should install the Arabic-enabled version of MS
Office.  That is the platform on which I worked for 4 years and it
served my Arabic processing needs quite well.  Now I am using Win2k-Pro
which requires no Arabization.  Either way is fine.  Cheers from Abu
Sammy.

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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: "sattar.izwaini at stud.umist.ac.uk"
Subject:Arabizing Windows 98 response

Hi
Windows 98 can be of two kinds for Arabic. The first is totally
Arabicized (with menus and online help in Arabic). The second is
'Arabic Enabled' which has menus in English, but it can process
Arabic texts and deals with text direction (right to left). Both can be
used for English texts of course. The second one is handy and
straight forward.
Now, what Windows do you have? Does it process Arabic?, i.e.
Are you able to see the text on the monitor and you can print it? if
yes, what is the problem?

Sattar

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:22 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs Spanish or French Learners of Arabic
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: "Mohammad.T.Alhawary-1" <malhawary at ou.edu>
Subject:Needs Spanish or French Learners of Arabic

Dear Colleagues:

I was wondering if you have students who are adult native speakers of
Spanish and/or French learning Arabic as a foreign language.  I need to
conduct a brief research study on such learners over.  I will be
willing to travel to Mexico, Spain and France to complete the study.
Your help will be much appreciated and acknowledged.  Please respond to
me directly.

Regards,
Mohammad T. Alhawary

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:25 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:25 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Temple University Job
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1)
Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: John Means <means at temple.edu>
Subject:Temple University Job

Instructor of Arabic - Temple University - Fall 2003
The Center for Critical Languages at Temple University invites
applications
for instructor of Arabic, to begin September. 2003 with a one-year
contract
renewable upon review, pending budgetary approval.  Candidates must
possess
native or near-native command of Arabic.  Graduate study beyond the M.A.
degree is expected.  Salary and rank will be based on academic
qualifications
and professional experience.  Candidates must provide evidence of
commitment
and established ability to teach Modern Standard Arabic at elementary
through
advanced levels, with graduate degree(s) and scholarly interests in
second
language acquisition, applied linguistics, language pedagogy, or related
fields.
The teaching load is 3/3, and candidates should be able to employ
instructional technologies appropriately.  Experience with
proficiency-based
teaching at the college level is desirable.
Applications should include a curriculum vitae, statement of teaching
philosophy and methods, and graduate transcripts. All correspondence,
including three recommendation letters sent directly from the referees,
should
be addressed to:
      Director, Critical Languages
      Anderson Hall, 022-38
      Temple University
      Philadelphia, PA 19122-6090
Temple University is an Affirmative Action / Equal Opportunity Employer.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:38 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:OCR for Arabic transcription response
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:OCR for Arabic transcription response

I doubt very much that you are going to find an Arabic OCR that
will support the Latin transcription alphabet for Arabic. Sakhr's
Automatic Reader Pro version 6.0 is multilingual and trainable.
You may want to look into it.

Languages supported: Arabic, Farsi, French, English, Czech,
Danish, Dutch, Finnish, German, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian,
and Turkish. For more information:

http://www.aramedia.com/ocroffice.htm

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:34 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:34 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs refs on NP in Arabic and Portuguese
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Jacyra Magalhães  <jacmag at rdc.puc-rio.br>
Subject:Needs refs on NP in Arabic and Portuguese

 From Moderator:
Jacyra is not a list member.  She is an MA student with a topic on the  
Noun Phrase, including the Idaafa, in Arabic and Portuguese.  If anyone  
would like to supply her with relevant references, please respond  
directly to her at the above address.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:30 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:30 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists responses
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3) Subject:Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists response

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1)
Date:  13 Dec 2002
From:Tim Buckwalter <ArabicLexicons at aol.com>
Subject:Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists response

I think the best concise introduction to Arabic linguistics is Mary  
Catherine Bateson's "Arabic Language Handbook" (1967). If you need  
something extremely concise, Charles Ferguson's article "Arabic  
Language" in the old Encyclopedia Britannica (the one right before the  
1974 edition) packs a ton of information in just two or three pages.

Best,
Tim Buckwalter

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2)
Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Benjamin Troutman <bentroutman at yahoo.com>
Subject:Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists response

Consult Clive Holes' Modern Arabic: Structures, Functions and Varieties  
(Longman Linguistics Library, 1995, ISBN: 0582258820).  It describes  
Modern Arabic and many of its variations quite meticulously using  
advanced linguistic terminology.

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From:
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:31:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:31:38 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Browsing on Mac OS X
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Michael Fishbein <fishbein at humnet.ucla.edu>
Subject:Arabic Browsing on Mac OS X

A question about Arabic browsers for OS X. Knut Vikør, at his Arabic
Mac Website (http://www.hf-fak.uib.no/i/smi/ksv/arabnet.html), says
that Netscape 7 works as an Arabic browser. Following his advice, and
also realizing that Apple is phasing out System 9, I asked our
university  technicians to install Netscape 7 (and Mozilla for good
measure) on their OS X machines and then try to read the Arabic page
of the BBC's World Service (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/arabic/) . Both
browsers managed to read the Arabic as Arabic, but there were serious
rendering problems. Any completely disjunct letter (e.g. a
nonconnector after another nonconnector or after a word break, or any
final letter after a nonconnector) came out smaller in size and
lighter in color. The problem occurred on the screen and in printing.
The result was text that, while it was readable, looked very strange.
Interline spacing, too, was not correct in some layouts. With these
defects or bugs, Netscape 7 in its present state is not a
satisfactory Arabic browser for OS X. Exactly the same problems
occurred in Mozilla.

We were unable to determine why the problem occurred. The individual
glyphs for the disjunct letters in the font itself (Lucida Grande, a
unicode font) did not seem to be at fault: they were neither light
nor small. Something else is causing the difficulty. Whether it is
due to Netscape (or Mozilla -- both use the same rendering engine) or
is due to a bug in System X, we don't know. Anyone have any idea?

The OS X machines on which we did the experiment did not have Arabic
language resources installed under System 9.2. I wonder whether this
had anything to do with the problem. Has anyone out there tried the
same experiment with Netscape 7 on a machine with OS 9's Arabic
resources installed, either running only OS 9.2, or running an OS 9
box within System X?

We tried tinkering with every conceivable preference, to no avail.

Alas, iCab, which works so nicely as an Arabic-enabled browser under
System 8.6 and 9.x, seems to have lost its ability to handle Arabic
in its OS X version.

As for Internet Explorer, which works beautifully for Arabic under
Windows, its Mac version does not as far as I know support Arabic.

The question has practical implications for Mac users, as Apple is
shipping all new computers with OS X. Unless we can use a new Mac for
Arabic word processing and accessing the web, we may -- perish the
thought -- have to go over to Windows machines.

--
Michael Fishbein, Undergraduate Advisor
Department of Near Eastern Languages and Cultures
UCLA

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:28 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:28 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:The Poetics of Pomegranates (Call for Poems)
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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: SadokM at aol.com
Subject:The Poetics of Pomegranates (Call for poems)

Oded Halahmy Foundation for Art would like to put together and publish a
poetry book in English on pomegranates. The title of the book would be
Modern
Poetry/Modern Sculpture, with an introduction to be written by an art
historian. My own sculpture focuses a lot in pomegranates. My work has
been
exibited in musuems in the  USA and Europe. I would like contributors to
submit up to 5 poems about their experiences with pomegrantes for
consideration.
Oded Halhamy 141 Prince street Fifth Floor New York, NY 10012, Fax
(212-477-4535.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:33 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:33 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:More on Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists
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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: Maher Awad <awadm at sas.upenn.edu>
Subject: Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists

A very decent short overview chapter is:  "Arabic," by Alan
Kaye, in _The World's Major Languages_, edited by Bernard
Comrie, Oxford Univ. Press, 1990, pp. 664-685.

One of the best books is:  Clive Holes' _Modern Arabic:
Structures, Functions and Varieties_, Longman, 1995.  It's
out of print, but you can find it in major libraries.

Maher Awad
University of Pennsylvania

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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: Gail Grella <GRELLAG1 at georgetown.edu>
Subject: Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists:bringing them back into
print

Both the Bateson and Holes books are out of print, but Georgetown
University Press will be reissuing them as part of Georgetown Classics
in Arabic Language and Linguistics series.  Bateson's "Arabic Language
Handbook" will be available in April 2003, ISBN 0-87840-386-8, $22.50.
Holes'  "Modern Arabic: Structures, Functions and Varieties" will come
out in a revised edition in Fall 2004.

Gail Grella
Associate Director, Georgetown University Press
Acquisitions Editor
3240 Prospect Street NW
Washington, DC  20007
Phone:  202-687-6263
FAX: 202-687-6340

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:36 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:36 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Textbooks history response
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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: "Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:Arabic Textbooks history response

       Even more interesting is the question of the evolution of
EI (Enclyclopaedia of Islam, Leiden) from edition 1 (in the 20's and
30's [??]) to the presently ongoing EI 2.  The second is clearly
much more irEnic (="non-confrontational"); but how much solid
orientalist scholarship has been lost?  (Have there been any new
archeological discoveries since then that concern the early generations
of Islam? New "theories" concerning the history of those times?? etc.)
      Best wishes,
                                         Mike Schub

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:39 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:39 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Inchoativity in Tunisian Arabic query
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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: cristiantudor at hotmail.com
Subject:Inchoativity in Tunisian Arabic query

cristiantudor at hotmail.com
 
Please respond directly to email address.  Thanks :)
 
Hello
My name is Cristian Tudor and i am a romanian student student learning  
arabic in University of Bucharest . After spending 2 years in Tunisia  
and Bourguiba School with a scholarship that i had obtained from the  
romanian and tunisian gov in collaboration , now i am back in romania  
and i must write a study about the Inchoativity in tunisian-arabic . I  
have some materials but i need some theoretic things about modalization  
, tense and aspect in MSA (fusha) . Please if you are kind , can you  
point for me some materials , something that i can use ?  I heard about  
a work : Modality, Mood and Aspect in Spoken Arabic
Mitchell, T.F. and El-Hassan, Shahir
Do you have a clue , something else about this sector from arabic ?  
Please help me !
Best regards
Cristian

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Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:21:22 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:More on Translation Programs
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1)
Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: J Murgida <jmurg at ttlc.net>
Subject:More on Translation Programs

Hi Everyone,
There was a session on Arabic translation at the American Translators
Association conference in Atlanta, Georgia, last month. It included
presentations on dictionaries for translators, Arabic translation memory
software, and how to learn to translate Arabic>English.

I'm the one who talked about learning/studying A-E translation. Sattar
is
correct in that there is no certificate program, or translation degree
in
North America that offers Arabic<>English, as far as I know. There are
courses at various universities, however. The list I prepared for the
conference is below, with the addition of information just received on
the
U. Penn course.

At the ATA session someone from Brigham Young University said that
there are
such courses there, but I don't have the details. I hope one of our BYU
colleagues will post them.

Also, Georgetown U. is considering expanding the current one-course
offering
to a three-course sequence, and possibly a certificate, in
Arabic-into-English translation. I believe they are hoping to start
that in
the Fall 2003.

Anyone interested in joining a listserve devoted to Translation &
Interpretation of Middle East Languages (time-l), please contact:
Timothy
Gregory [tarjema at hotmail.com]; translators present at the conference
formed
an informal group and started this list. While it's open to discussion
of
other languages, so far we've been discussing Arabic.

I welcome additions to the list of courses. I know that the U. of
Arkansas
as some kind of literary translation program but don't have any details.

Best regards,
Jackie Murgida
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Arabic-English university translation courses in the U.S.

U. of Minnesota:
The Program in Translation and Interpreting (PTI) at the University of
Minnesota is planning an Arabic section of our introductory course in
translation during the spring 2003 semester, provided that there are a
minimum of four students interested in the course. Also, an intensive
two to
three week long course in intermediate level Arabic/English translation
is
scheduled for May Session, 2003. Interested individuals may e-mail us at
pti at umn.edu or send requests for information to:
	Program in Translation and Interpreting
	University of Minnesota
	ILES
	214 Nolte Center
	315 Pillsbury Drive S.E.
	Minneapolis, MN  55414

Georgetown University, Washington, D.C.
Currently offers a one-semester Arabic-into-English translation
workshop.
For information contact:

Brian McGrath
Dept. of Arabic Language, Literature and Linguistics
Georgetown University
37th & 'O' Sts., NW
ICC 306-F
P.O. Box 571046
Washington, DC  20057-1046
Phone:  202-687-5743
Fax:  202-687-2408
E-mail:  mcgrathb at georgetown.edu

This class will be offered on Wednesdays from 6:15-8:45 PM in ICC 208A,
beginning January 8, 2003.  The course is 3 credits.  To enroll,
students
should contact the Registrar's Office at:
202-687-4020.

University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia
[Information from Roger Allen about his seminar. I have heard that it is
very interesting and useful]:
My seminar is for PhD students and is concerned with translation of
literary
texts.  It begins with a heavy dose of translation theory, and then
proceeds
in
two-week sequences, via an initial analysis of works in specific
literary
genres that have been translated at least three times into English, to
actual
translation of a work in the same genre by the students.   The resulting
translated texts are circulated anonymously among the class (including,
at
times, my own!), and then discussed.  Because of the time factor, I
select
SHORT literary genres for analysis and then translation: the segments
are
modern poetry, modern short story, early poetry (mostly in the form of
the "qit`ah"), and short plays.  However, the semester/seminar project
with
which the course concludes is an extended work of translation.

   I offer the seminar whenever there is a large enough cohort of
graduate
students who have not taken it before (and who ask for it).
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2)
Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: Dil Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:BYU Clarification

BYU has had a fairly full blown Spanish English translation program for
some time (including courses on instantaneous translation).
Unfortunately, we don't have courses on Arabic-English (or Arabic
anything) translation. We have a pretty basic three year program (+ a
few miscellaneous courses) which can lead to a minor in Arabic, or
which can be combined with area studies courses for a Middle East
Studies-Arabic major.  Our three claims to fame, so to speak, are: 1)
An Islamic Translation Series of publications (possibly the source of
the notion that we have a translation program), which has been
producing some fine bilingual editions of works by Islamic
philosophers;  2) a fairly consistent, every other year, study abroad
program that takes students who have had two years of Arabic to the
Middle East for a semester; and 3) a summer intensive program where
students can do either first year or second year during a summer term.
Translation courses?  yaa reet!
By the way, thanks, Jackie, for compiling this useful information.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:48 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:48 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:More on Arabizing Windows 98
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2) Subject:Arabizing Windows 98 (AD)
3) Subject:Arabizing Windows 98--Diacritics query


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1)
Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: enm at umich.edu
Subject:Arabizing Windows 98

Paul Roochnik gave the following response to the problem of Arabizing  
Windows 98:

> Gaye Price asked about doing Arabic on a PC with Win98.  To the best of
> my knowledge, you must install the Arabic-enabled version of Windows   
> 98.
> After that, you should install the Arabic-enabled version of MS   
> Office.
> That is the platform on which I worked for 4 years and it  served my
> Arabic processing needs quite well.  Now I am using Win2k-Pro  which
> requires no Arabization.  Either way is fine.  Cheers from Abu  Sammy.

I had the same problem with Windows 98, and eventually decided on  
another solution: I bought Windows Office 2000; this alone can print  
out Arabic as well as English--and other language scripts.  To be fully  
truthful, I had to buy a new computer to be able to accommodate the  
larger software.  I later downloaded free from Microsoft the file Ariel  
Unicode MS which contains just about every language font you could want.

Good luck.
Ernest McCarus

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2)
Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:Arabizing Windows 98 (AD)

I have few suggestions that are commercially
available at the AramediA Website www.aramedia.com

1- MS Windows 2000 is multilingual and available along with MS Arabic
Word 2000 or Office 2000. This is the Arabic version, meaning the
SpellChecker is included also. The above is also valid for XP too.

2- Get MS Arabic Windows 98 Upgrading the English version and
MS Arabic Word 2000 or 2002. All of MS Arabic software is bilingual
(English and Arabic):

http://www.aramedia.com/mshome.htm

3- Universal Word 2000 ML-1 Arabic Languages/English Word Processor.
You may cut and paste Arabic text into MS English Word, or compose
both texts (English and Arabic) on the same page with UW 2000, it is
also UNICODE compliant.

ML1, Arabic Languages: Arabic, Azeri-Arabic, English,
Farsi, Malay-Jawi, Pashto, Urdu, Transliteration, Int'l Phonetic.

UW 2000 will work with your English or any Windows, it does not
require an Arabic Operating System like MS Arabic Windows,
download a free Demo:

http://www.aramedia.com/uniword.htm
http://aramedia.com/uniform2000.htm

Arabic/English PS-2 Keyboard is available.
Arabic/English Keyboard Stickers for either Laptop
or Desktop are available also:

http://www.aramedia.com/keyboard-ar.htm
http://aramedia.com/stickers.htm

Please contact me, if you have any questions.

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak  
T 617 825-3044 F 617 265-9648
http://www.arbicsoftware.net
http://www.eislamicsoftware.com

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3)
Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: Aman Attieh <attieh at rice.edu>
Subject:Arabizing Windows 98--Diacritics query

Following  William Kopycki's suggestions, we successfully tested  
Windows XP and multilingual Office XP, with Arabic (Saudi Arabia) -  
Arabic 102 and we cleared all problems concerning direction of numbers,  
fraction of the numbers, and insertion of words. However we are still  
dissatisfied with the behavior of diacritics.

I am at a quandary that at this time and age the diacritics of Arabic  
fonts for Windows are substandard for instructional purposes if our  
target population are beginners

The Times Roman and Arabic Transparent:  These are the same font with  
two different designations.  Examples of confusion to the novice is  
that the sukuun, when displayed by a letter, is so close to the dots  
particularly the "nuun", while the "kasrah" joins the dot of the "baa".  
The  situation  worsens when using smaller size fonts especially in   
placing a " fatHah" or a "Dammah" on top of the "shaddah" where the two  
symbols become fused, and the resultant of this hybrid are unknown  
symbols in Arab grammar .

The Simplified Arabic is the other extreme where the diacritics are  
placed far away from the letters so much so that sometimes the "kasrah"  
in a given line looks like a "fatHah" on a letter in the subsequent  
line.

The Simplified Arabic does not have any diacritics, and the Andalus  
style is not suitable for beginners.

Does someone have a solution to this diacritics problem on Windows?

I am wondering if the MAC (OS X) fonts display such problems of lack of  
clarity as described above. Also can anyone address the differences in  
clarity between diacritics typed on Windows XP or MAC OS X?

I appreciate any help in this regard.
Aman Attieh, Ph.D.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:44 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:44 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:What is a bilingual?
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1)
Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:What is a bilingual?

>  true native-like fluency -- thinking and dreaming in Arabic, and
> reading and writing Arabic with  the same facility as his or her
> native language. I would like to think it is possible, but I have
> never heard of anyone succeeding. Would you say that you are truly
> bilingual, functioning identically in Arabic and English?

The problem here is with definitions.  What does it mean to be truly
bilingual?  That one
speaks a language with exactly the same facility as a native speaker?
That
may not be
possible.  But the appearance of it is.  Which to my way of thinking is
nearly
the same
thing.  I myself am aware of the limits of of my abilities of
expression, but
no-one else
seems to be.  There are, for instance, idiomatic expressions that I
recognize
but do not
use.  And I am always encountering new and unfamiliar ones.  But they
does not
show in
my speech.  I do  come up with non-native construction now and then,
usually
when I have
been speaking much English, or when entering an unfamiliar field of
discussion.  Then I
encounter interference from English and sometimes Spanish.

But I also experience interference from Arabic when I speak English.  I
think
this is the
true sign of a bilingual.

A simple example, I once found myself saying in English "I am afraid
from"
(xaayif min)
rather than "I am afraid of" .  The same sort of thing happens to me on
a
regular basis.  A
curious problem I have encountered in almost all Arabic speakers of
English is
a
confusion with deixis  they say "that" when we would say "this", and
vice
versa, e.g.,
"That's a nice day."  I myself can fall into that specific type of
error.  It
can be a bit
distressing.  Often in English conversation I can retrieve an Arabic
word more
readily
that an English one I have know for most of my life.  This causes great
amusement
amongst my Arabic-speaking colleagues.  (I have also been mistaken for
a very
skilled
non-native speaker of English).

So, yes I do think -  and dream  - in Arabic.

I can read some types of Arabic texts with much greater facility than
even
well educated
native speakers.  To me, for instance, the Quran is truly couched in
clear
Arabic.  For
many native speakers it is not quite so clear.  I am not even sure why
that
should be.
Maybe it is precisely because they are not always trained in the use of
dictionaries, and
so the archaic language is a bit more opaque.

Where does my near native facility show at its weakest?  In reading
aloud, and
in writing.

I lay that to the relative lack of emphasis placed on either in the
university
Arabic
curriculum.

But I can certainly write a memo or a letter in Arabic.

And I can and have given extemporaneous speeches in formal Arabic.

In Egypt, anyway, it is a class marker for one not to be terribly
proficient
in producing
written Arabic.  I just got through giving a tutorial to a translator
from
Oman whose
proficiency in written Arabic was about that of mine.  She is typical of
upper-middle
class Egyptians in that regard:  her educational emphasis was on
European
languages - she
didn't pay too much attention to her written Arabic.  But she acquired
it over
her entire
16 years of schooling, with the result that she was good enough to work
as a
translator
(and a translators must be very good).  I acquired mine in about the
same
time, only eight
of which were in formal schooling.   So, I am like an educated
upper-middle
class
Egyptian, and evidently some Omanis.

This raises some difficulties when we begin to talk about near-native
proficiency.
Proficiency to do what?  (to quote a paper by the moderator of this
list).

David Wilmsen

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:19 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:19 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Bookstore in NYC (AD)
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1) Subject:Arabic Bookstore in NYC (AD)

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1)
Date:  18 Dec 2002
From:DAHESHBOOKS at aol.com
Subject:Arabic Bookstore in NYC (AD)

Are you Looking for a bookstore to purchase Arabic dictionary,
textbooks, literature, history and poetry. Dahesh Heritage, Fine Books
is the answer. Just call 1-800-799-6375
Mike Masri

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:47:48 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:47:48 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:On-line Arabic Courses (AD)
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1) Subject:On-line Arabic Courses (AD)

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1)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Walid Farhoud <walid at dalilusa.com>
Subject:On-line Arabic Courses (AD)

It is a great pleasure to introduce the Arabic Courses on line.
You may find three Intensive course as follows:
1) Standard Classical Arabic Course which includes 32 Lessons in Arabic
structure, grammar and writing.
	this course provides the student with the essential tools of Arabic
grammar, derivation and syntax.
2) Classical Arabic Reader which covers the application of the Standard
Classical Arabic Course in practical
	manner by using 36 modern literature pieces from both modern and
traditional writings, poetry and media.
3) Colloquial Arabic Course which covers the four major dialects of
Eastern,
Gulf, Egypt and Morocco. The course
	covers 18 lessons covering daily interactions in the street, school,
travel
etc...
	Eastern (Levanntine) Colloquial Arabic is available at the present
time.

Each course is supported by excercises and Lesson Support. Sound track
was
used for correct pronounciation and
a clear Arabic font with colors were used to facilitate easy reading and
writing.

Please review the courses on www.dalilusa.com. There are individual
application process and group applicatio

Walid B. Farhoud
Middle East International Services
4500- 9th Avenue NE, Suite #300
Seattle, Washington 98105
USA
Phone: (206) 633-6057 (office)
Mobile:(206) 941-9090
Fax: (206) 633-6058
walid at dalilusa.com
www.dalilusa.com

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:47:53 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:47:53 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Etymology of 'mosque' query
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1)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: BearMeiser at aol.com
Subject:Etymology of 'mosque' query

Does anyone know what can be said about and what is known for certain  
about the etymology of the word "mosque"? I think it has always been  
understood to be from the word "masjid," which is what the OED says.  
However, the following e-mail seems to be circulating in some Muslim  
circles, telling people that "mosque" has an entirely different origin  
from what we have been taught, though I strongly suspect that that is a  
mere folk etymology. The e-mail says:

PLS CALL OUR MASJID "MASJID"! Not MOSQUE!!!

As-salaam alaikum all my dear  friends,

Please read this and pass it on to any Muslims, as much as  you can. It  
is a vital and important information. Muslims should now refrain from  
using the term "Mosque". I was flipping through this book the other day  
called "THE COMPLETE IDIOT'S GUIDE TO UNDERSTANDING ISLAM" (hehe, they  
call themselves idiots) and it is filled with fun facts. Some stuff I  
didn't even know. One of them concerns the term "mosque." So many of us  
think that this is the English translation of masjid. I'm sure none of  
us ever wondered how this term came into being when it really had  
little in common with how it sounded compared to 'masjid'. (We were  
small when we were taught this English word. Our mind then were not  
critical & analytical, so didn't dare to ask/challenge our teachers,  
right?). Anyway this book pointed out that the term 'mosque' is derived  
from the Spanish word for "mosquito." It was termed as such because  
during the Crusades, King Ferdinand (or someone.. I forgot exactly whom  
it was) said they were gonna go and swat the muslims "like mosquitos".  
(Where else can they find Muslims in large number to be swatted if not  
in a masjid?). So, they cheekily termed masjid as 'mosque'.
So dear Muslim brothers and sisters, refrain from using this term which  
is obviously a disgusting slap in the face to the Ummah. Educate our  
brothers and sisters to the history and etymology of this word. And let  
us replace it with the word which is MEANT to be used: Masjid! The  
Place of Prostration!! Not Mosque: the place to be swatted! If any of  
you have doubts about this, then please go look for the book and read  
it.


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:47:56 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:47:56 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Needs advice on English to Arabic translation
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: "wa'el Al-Qara'n" <wqaran at birzeit.edu>
Subject:Needs advice on English to Arabic translation

[moderator's note: Wa'el received a degree in physics several years ago
and has been teaching at Bir Zeit for several years.  He sent us the
following query which I thought I would post.  If any of you have
advice for Wa'el, please send it directly to him at the address
above.---Dil]

I do not know if you still remember me. I graduated with a PH.D. in
Physics way back in 1993. I was involved with the Arabic Club. The last
time
I was at BYU was back in the summer of 1998. I did research with my
advisor,
Dr. Larry Knight.
Anyway, I have been working in the Physics Department at Birzeit
University since 1994. I have recently began to get interested in
translating books from English to Arabic. This started when I wanted to
help
my students understand the material better by offering them the chance
to
read it in Arabic. All the books we use are in English, and our students
tend to suffer sometimes because of that.
This led me to another field. Most of the books I read are in English.
Many people in this part of the world do not have the capacity to read
books
in English, even college educated people. I think this is a shame.
Books can
bring people together, by helping them see what there really is on the
other
side.
I would like to translate books, but I do not have a good idea of where
I
can start. Do you have any ideas?

sincerely
wael karain

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:00 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:00 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:NSA Arabic Linguist jobs
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: "Jensen, Patricia V." <pvjense at nsa.gov>
Subject:NSA Arabic Linguist jobs

We currently have Arabic Linguist positions open with the National
Security Agency located in Ft. Meade, Maryland.

NSA is seeking individuals who have native to near-native ability for a
permanent, full-time assignment.  If you are not currently on the
market but
know someone who is, please pass along my contact information to them,
or if
you provide me their contact information I would be happy to get in
touch
with them.

If you are currently on the market, the Language Community offers two
employment opportunities, dependent upon level of experience and
determined
by the hiring department.  The first opportunity, also referred to as a
developmental program, begins with a 3-year skills development program.
During these 3 years, you will have the opportunity to work in various
offices throughout the NSA Language Department to develop translation/
transcription skills. The second opportunity puts the individual
directly
into a designated department rather than the developmental program. Both
opportunities include on-the-job training, mentoring, and formal
classroom
instruction.

For illustration purposes, the salary (based on 2002 figures) for a
Bachelors degree and no
related work experience is GG07-1 ($31,397 per annum). The salary for a
Masters degree and no related work experience is GG09-1 ($38,406 per
annum).
Individuals with a PhD and no related work experience would earn a
starting
salary of GG11-1 ($46,469 per annum). Any related work experience would
qualify for additional pay.  Additional information on salary can be
requested during the phone screening.

If this sounds of interest to you, please contact me at 866-672-4473
between
8:30 am and 2 pm EST. I will conduct a brief screening interview with
you
which takes approximately 20 minutes.

Please note that employment with the National Security Agency is
governed by
Public Law
and requires that initial and continued employment with the Agency and
access to classified information, shall be clearly consistent with the
national security. The law prescribes further that employment in the
Agency
shall be contingent upon completion of a full field investigation and
clearance for access to classified information.

To meet the statutory national security standard, the NSA maintains
special
employment criteria and prescribes certain conditions of employment
which
may exceed those of other Government organizations which do not have the
highly sensitive mission related responsibility borne by the Agency. The
special criteria and conditions include, in
addition to others prescribed by Executive Order and Department of
Defense
regulations, the following:

With limited exceptions, both the applicant and the members of his or
her
immediate family shall be United States citizens. For these purposes,
"immediate family" is defined as including the individual's spouse or
significant other, parents, brothers, sisters, and children.

Should you have immediate family members who are non-U.S. citizens, the
hiring department may waive this requirement.  There are a number of
factors
that go into making such a decision so please contact me for more
information (should you be interested in pursuing employment with NSA).

Thank you for your possible interest in employment with the National
Security Agency. I hope to hear from you soon.
--
Patricia Jensen
Arabic Linguist Recruiter
National Security Agency

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:06 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:06 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:AUB Summer Arabic Program 2003
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Aliya Saidi <as33 at aub.edu.lb>
Subject:AUB Summer Arabic Program 2003

AUB Summer Arabic Program 2003

The Center for Arab and Middle Eastern Studies at the American  
University of Beirut is organizing an intensive Arabic language program  
to be held on the campus of AUB. Students may earn 9 credit hours of  
Arabic instruction, which are transferable to US universities.

The program offers Arabic courses at five different levels:  
Introductory, High Introductory, Intermediate, High Intermediate and  
Advanced. Each level provides a six-week total immersion into the  
Arabic language that consists of 20 hours a week of intensive classroom  
instruction and an additional 2.5 hours a week of Colloquial Arabic in  
the Lebanese dialect. The program combines classroom instruction with  
cultural field trips within Beirut and around Lebanon.

Applications are available online (www.aub.edu.lb/cames).

Application deadline: March 14, 2003

Program dates: June 23 - August 1, 2003

Fees: $3,469 - $3,726
- Tuition for Modern Standard Arabic: $2,535
- Tuition for Colloquial Arabic: $375
- Accommodation on AUB campus: $410 shared / $667 private
- Health Insurance: $117
- Internet Usage: $20
- Sports Facilities Usage: $12

 

For more information contact:

Center for Arab and Middle Eastern Studies,
American University of Beirut,
P.O. Box 11-0236,
Beirut, Lebanon
+961-1-35000, ext. 3845

cames at aub.edu.lb 
www.aub.edu.lb/cames

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:09 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Bard College Job
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Hezi Brosh <brosh at bard.edu>
Subject:Bard College Job

Bard College seeks applications for a half-time visiting position in the
program of Arabic Language and Literature beginning in September of
2003.  The successful candidate will contribute to an established
program in Arabic and must have native or near native proficiency in
Arabic, a record of success in teaching Modern Standard Arabic from
elementary to advanced levels, and the ability to conduct
advanced classes both in Arabic and in English. Research specialization
is open and could include history of the Middle East, Arabic philosophy
Arabic literature or the civilization of the Arab world.  Familiarity
with the use of new media in the classroom and with the important issues
of teaching Arabic as a foreign language is an advantage. Application
deadline is January 31, 2003. Curriculum Vitae, cover
letter and three letters of recommendation should be sent to: Chair,
Arabic Search Committee, c/o Human Resources, Bard College, P.O. Box
5000, Annandale-on-Hudson, NY 12504.  AA/EOE

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:03 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:03 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Bowne Global Solutions Jobs
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From:DC Interpreter Resumes <interpreterresumes at bowneglobal.com>
Subject:Bowne Global Solutions Jobs

Bowne Global Solutions, Interpretation Services is currently seeking  
bilingual individuals who are fluent in both English and another  
language.

 Where and when would interpreters work?  Interpreters may be offered  
assignments in a number of different settings including court  
hearings.  Most of the assignments occur during normal business hours,  
Monday through Friday between 8:00am and 5:00pm.

Who is eligible?  Candidates must be U.S. citizens or permanent  
residents.

On what basis do interpreters work for us?   Bowne interpreters work  
and are paid as independent contractors, therefore the number of  
assignments offered depends on the need for each language.

We are currently recruiting Arabic interpreters for the following areas:

Connecticut:

New York City and New Jersey:

Philadelphia, PA

New Orleans, LA

Atlanta, GA

Please contact us at: 1730 Rhode Island Ave NW, Suite 308
Washington, DC 20036
888-241-9149 ext 170, fax 202-331-7630
InterpreterResumes at BowneGlobal.com


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:14 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:14 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:ARCE deadline extended
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Carolyn Tomaselli <ctomase at emory.edu>
Subject:ARCE deadline extended

The American Research Center in Egypt (ARCE) is extending its fellowship
application deadline from January 5 to January 15 to give those of you
who
are interested in applying the chance to do so.  Please call on or after
January 2 if you have any questions.  We look forward to receiving your
applications.

Please visit the ARCE website to download our fellowship application,
www.arce.org.

American Research Center in Egypt
Emory University Briarcliff Campus
1256 Briarcliff Road, NE
Building A, Suite 423W
Atlanta, GA 30306
Phone:	(404) 712-9854
Fax:	(404) 712-9849
Email:	arce at emory.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:20 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:20 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:What is a bilingual?
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1) Subject:What is a bilingual?
2) Subject:Bilingualism
3) Subject:Proficiency Standards Beyond the Native Speaker

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1)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Mona Diab <mdiab at umiacs.umd.edu>
Subject:What is a bilingual?

Salam everybody,
i actually agree with David it all depends on your definition of native
like? I myself am a bilingual in Egyptian Arabic and English. I was
educated in MSA in Egypt and attended American schools... I am
considered native in both languages in terms of linguistic judgements
and
I am in a linguistics department. I have lived half of my life in
English speaking countries and the other
half in Egypt. I read, write, think and dream, use idioms and metaphors,
you name it, in both languages (I don't dream in MSA though maybe
sometimes reciting some quran but never really
MSA). I am currently in France and I speak some French and I paid
attention to the kind of mistakes I make in French and they seem to
pattern with bot Egyptian Arabic and English...
SO my point is there are true bilinguals but maybe access to
linguistic information is contextualised, depending on the situation or
context...
Just my $0.02
Cheers
Mona Diab

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2)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Nimat Hafez Barazangi <nhb2 at cornell.edu>
Subject:Bilingualism

If you look at bilingualism from a cognitive point of view, then it
becomes simpler to assess the "true level" if its facility.

The issue is not only to speak in the same level of the "native
speaker," but mainly to be able to perform the same cognitive processes
almost equally well in the two languages.

When I was raising my daughter to be a bilingual, that was my
criterion, but in separate environments; inside the home and outside
the home.

  I think I managed, to a certain extent, to provide the morphological
and syntactical structures as well as exposure to a vocabulary-rich
envo. in both English and Arabic in parallel to each other. By
providing her with the opportunity to hear, speak, read, and write both
at the same level from early childhood, she grew up able to function in
both languages well, and without mixing words, as we learners of FL
often do.   She is able to understand, comprehend, analyze, critique,
joke, etc. in both languages, equally well.  She tells me that she
dreams in Arabic when dreaming of us, her parents, or relatives. The
only problem is that now, with little time to read in Arabic, and by
being outside the home envo., she is not gaining enough new vocabulary
to keep up with comprehending the more recent and more complicated
cognitive processes within the Arabic environment.

Nimat  Hafez Barazangi

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2)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Ola Moshref <Ola.Moshref at zu.ac.ae>
Subject: Proficiency Standards Beyond the Native Speaker

What/Who are the standards for proficiency in a language?

All the arguments or examples Dr. Wilmsen used seem to put native
speakers as the standard, by comparing his performance in speaking and
writing to theirs and feeling satisfied that with their poor Arabic
education he may even outstand their "educated upper class elite".

Because a lot of what he said was true, and hurting, it made me
reflect.

Since we do not only speak of the proficiency of non-natives in a
foreign language, but natives themselves are also rated in their
proficiency of the language they formally speak and write, then why do
we talk of natives as a model for proficiency?

I know this may lead us to philosophic talk about language not being
independent of the people who produce and comprehend it. I agree,
because blood is functionless without a being, and the being cannot
dispense with blood.

We Arabs are nowadays anaemic, nevertheless, this does not change the
facts about a healthy person's blood picture. Likewise, language must
have standards on its own premises for proficiency. I realize that many
factors will produce continuous alterations in this picture, but these
should be acknowledged only through updating the grammar of this
language.

Ola Moshref

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:28 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:28 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L PEDA:Needs English for Special Purposes Materials for
 Arabic Speakers
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1) Subject:Needs English for Special Purposes Materials for Arabic
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Elizabeth Bergman <embergman at earthlink.net>
Subject:Needs English for Special Purposes Materials for Arabic Speakers

I have been asked to locate classroom-ready ESP teaching materials.
This is
not my area of particular interest, but has landed on my desk because
the
learners are speakers of Arabic.

The materials are in specific
technical areas.  They are (1) radar, (2) telecommunications, (3) air
traffic
control, (4) computer hardware, and (5) computer software.

If you can suggest textbooks in any of these areas or have developed
materials
for classroom use that you would be willing to share (compensation to be
negotiated), please contact me off-list.

Many thanks in advance and best wishes for the holidays,

Elizabeth M. Bergman

embergman at earthlink.net

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:24 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:24 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:al-aqrab bi-l-aqrab query
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: decaen at chass.utoronto.ca (Vincent DeCaen)
Subject:al-aqrab bi-l-aqrab query

dear friends,

was wondering if anyone could spot the correct sense for the following
phrase:   al-aqrab bi-l-aqrab

the sense seems to be islamic/rabbinic legalistic: perhaps something to
do
with inheritance. i'm not sure what the preposition bi- is doing there
either, unless it's a persianism....

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:31 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:31 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs Quran Study software
Message-ID: <MON.30.DEC.2002.154831.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: "Hutton, Rod" <rhutton at trinitylutheranseminary.edu>
Subject:Needs Quran Study software

[please respond directly to requester who is not a member of the list]

Dear Dr. Parkinson,

I was referred to you by a colleague in a quest for software realted to
the
study of the Quran.  In my study of the biblical material, I use a
program
entitled BibleWorks 5.0.  It provides an intensive grammatical analysis
of
every word, entries for every word from several major lexica, a complex
range of grammatical searches and concordance searches.  During my
sabbatical leave I am studying Arabic, to assist in my side-discipline
of
offering a course in Islam.  I am looking for a software program for the
study of the Quran analogous to the program I use for the critical
study of
the Bible.  I raised the issue with my online instructor, and she
referred
me to you in order to pose the question to the Arabic list that you
administer.  Can you indicate how I may join this list to pose the
question,
or do you yourself know of any such programs?  The only ones I've seen
are
simple programs that offer recitations of the Quran or aid in
memorization
of the Quran of offer a commentary and translation of the Quran.  I'm
looking for a grammatically intense program that I would anticipate
would
cost in the area of $200.  Most programs I see out there cost about $50
to
$70, and I doubt they do the job.  Thanks for any assistance you can
provide.
Dr. Rodney R. Hutton
Prof. of Old Testament/Hebrew Scriptures
Trinity Lutheran Seminary
Columbus, OH

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:35 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:35 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Diacritics in Windows
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2) Subject:Diacritics in Windows

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1)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Antonio GimÈnez <huesteantigua at yahoo.es>
Subject:Diacritics in Windows

Those of you concerned about diacritics display for educational purposes
might be interested in Microsoft Arabic Typesetting font, designed by  
Mamoun
Sakkal and produced by Microsoft’s Typography Group. It is an OpenType
Unicode-enabled font for Windows 2000/XP supporting Arabic script  
languages
(Arabic, Persian, Ottoman Turkish, Adighe, Baluchi, Berber, Dargwa,  
Ingush,
Kashmiri, Kazakh, Kirghiz, Lahnda, Maghrib Arabic, Old Hausa, Old Malay,
Pashto, Sindhi, Tunisian Arabic, Turkic, Uighur, Urdu), archaic letters
(dotless kaf and ba'), Qur'anic annotations signs, presentation forms,  
and
all major systems of transliteration. You can find further information  
at:

http://www.middleeastmedievalists.org/compute.html (a PDF sample is
available for download)

and:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/developers/volt/volt9.htm

For the time being, Arabic Typesetting is only available as a Microsoft
Visual OpenType Layout Tool (VOLT) supplemental file. It is provided for
illustration only, and may not be altered or redistributed.

I have tested it on Microsoft Windows 2000 and Office 2000. It is a nice
font as you can see on the PDF sample but it seems to be under  
development
and requires a newest version of a certain driver, called usp10.dll,  
which
Microsoft is not distributing yet.

I remember having read that Arabic Typesetting could be distributed in
future versions of Microsoft Office, but cannot confirm it.

Antonio Giménez
huesteantigua at yahoo.es

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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From:  GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:Diacritics in Windows

Try Universal Word 2000 word processor. Under the Shift Key, you have
the Harakat and many other nice things. Download the Free Demo at:

http://www.aramedia.com/uniword.htm

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:55 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:55 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Translation programs
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1) Subject:Translation programs in ME Universities
2) Subject:Translation programs at Binghamton
3) Subject:Translation e-mail list

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1)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From:Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject:Translation programs in ME Universities

FWIW, several of the national universities in Saudi Arabia offer BA
programs in translation Arabic <-> multiple TLs.
The oldest and apparently largest program of offerings in different
pairs is at the College of European Languages and Translation (CELT) of
King Saud University in Riyadh (BTW, CELT has an interesting history -
if not a saga - of birth and growth by US-educated Saudis). When I
visited and lectured there in 1991-1991, the CELT program had some
"foreign students" from Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea and Muaritania.
The next largest is at King Abdulaziz U in Jeddah. Probably similar
programs (but fewer students) in translation at King Fahd U. of
Petroleum and Mineral in al-Dhahran.
I understand that the new network (three campuses, may be four by now)
of community colleges in SA include heavy course work in English <->
Arabic translation and may lead to a professional certificate /
academic program transferable to one of the larger universities.
The UAE University in Al-Ain, Abu Dhabi was/is considering an degree
program in English <-> Arabic translation to develop bilingual job
skills in Emiratis who would have dual majors in some technology or
engineering field in which the principal language was English.
Same situation and programs may exist in the impressive multi-campus
Higher Colleges of Technology (HCT) system in UAE. I don't know about
what's in place or planned at Zayed University, American U of Sharjah,
and the other tertiary institutions in UAE and Qatar (which is
reportedly blooming with US-accredited campuses).
Hope this helps. Khair, in sha' Allah.
Regards,
Steve Franke

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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From:Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject:Translation program at Binghamton

You may wish to check with the Translation Research and Instruction
Program
at Binghamton University.  They may offer a Certificate in
Arabic<>English
translation.

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3)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: "Timothy A. Gregory" <tgregory at tarjema.com>
Subject: Translation e-mail list

Hey all,

As Jackie Murgida mentioned, one of the results of the Arabic sessions
at
this year's ATA conference was a mailing list for translators and
interpreters of Middle Eastern languages. She gave my hotmail address,
but I
do most of my correspondence through this address
(tgregory at tarjema.com).

Anyone that interested in this topic is welcome to join, you can send
me an
email directly and I'll sign you up, or you can visit
http://www.tarjema.com
and click on the link for mailing lists, then click "Time-L".

I think that we would all love to see this list take off and be active,
so
feel free pass the contact information around so we can get a nice group
together, and one thing I like to see is new members post a short
message
when they join telling a bit about themselves and so on...

Thanks for your interest!

--tag

Timothy A. Gregory            tgregory at tarjema.com
Arabic>English Translator   http://www.tarjema.com
               Tarjema Translations

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:58 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:58 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Universal Word warning
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Martha Schulte-Nafeh <marthas at u.arizona.edu>
Subject:Universal Word warning

I would like to just forewarn anyone considering buying Universal Word
2000
ML-1. It is not inexpensive and our department invested quite a bit of
money
in multiple copies of it only to find out that it is HIGHLY unstable.
Various actions cause the program to crash. In one two hour period while
trying to create an exam it crashed 20 times! I tried to e-mail the
distributors about this and got no help. If someone out there has had a
better experience with the software, I would love to hear about it. I'd
like
the department to be able to use the software. It does have some nice
features.

peace,
martha

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:31:53 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:31:53 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Young Leb. Authors on Civil War Query
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Ulla Prien <prien at hum.ku.dk>
Subject:Young Leb. Authors on Civil War Query

In connection with the planing of a study trip for students to Syria  
and Lebanon, we?re reading fictional descriptions (novels,  
short?stories, poetry etc.)?dealing with the Civil War in Lebanon but  
we are very much at a loss concerning younger not so established  
authors. Could you recommend or just mention anyone from the younger  
generation minus 40 and at least minus 50 generation dealing with this  
subject?
?
If some of these authors have been translated into a major European  
Language, preferably English it would be even better as our students  
come from different levels and subjects and not everybody studies  
Arabic.?
?
thanks a lot in advance
?
sincerely
?Ulla Prien?
mailaddress>
prien at hum.ku.dk
University Instructor
the Carsten Niebuhr Institute
Copenhagen
?Denmark

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:31:49 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:31:49 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:COOP Grants program Deadline
Message-ID: <THU.5.DEC.2002.133149.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Elizabeth Schultz <Eschultz at nafsa.org>
Subject:COOP Grants program Deadline

The Cooperative Grants Program (COOP) at NAFSA: Association of
International
Educators is accepting proposals for its Incentive Grant competition.
Incentive Grants are awards of up to $10,000.  Proposals must be
received by
January 10, 2003.

THE PROGRAM

Since 1974, COOP has provided funding for campus and community initiated
cultural enrichment programs that involve post-secondary international
and/or U.S. study abroad students.  COOP has awarded more than $2
million
for more than 870 projects across the United States.  Over 450,000
international and U.S. students, community members, K-12 students, and
university faculty and staff have participated in these innovative,
"beyond-the-classroom," intercultural projects.  COOP grants are made
available through funding from the Bureau of Educational and Cultural
Affairs of the United States Department of State under the authority of
the
Fulbright-Hays Act of 1961, as amended.

COOP invites proposals from U.S.-based institutions of higher education
and
non-profit organizations for innovative projects that:

* encourage international students and scholars attending U.S. colleges
and
universities to become involved in and knowledgeable about U.S. culture
and
society apart from their study/research programs;

* enhance the experience of U.S. students involved in study abroad
prior to
their departure or upon their return; and/or

* stimulate and strengthen interaction among international students,
their
U.S. peers, faculty, and communities.

2002-2003 GRANT THEMES

While all proposals submitted to COOP that meet the selection criteria
will
be considered, the Cooperative Grants Committee will give priority to
grant
proposals that address any of the themes below.

*  U.S. society and values, including pluralism, diversity,
volunteerism,
religious tolerance, the partnership of the public and private sectors,
and
the arts and cultural heritage of the U.S.

* Democracy and human rights, including the U.S. elections process, the
role
of the media, and the rule of law and administration of justice

* U.S. economy and international trade issues

* U.S.-Muslim intercultural awareness

INFORMATION AND MATERIALS

Application materials, grant writing resources and the COOP Model
Program
List are available on the NAFSA web site at www.nafsa.org/coop or
contact
COOP staff at coop at nafsa.org.   COOP staff are also available to discuss
project ideas and to answer questions about application requirements.

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:31:55 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Book
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1) Subject:New Book:Language Education Policy: The Arab Minority in
Israel

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:New Book: Language Education Policy: The Arab Minority in Israel

Title: Language Education Policy
Subtitle: The Arab Minority in Israel
Series Title: Language Policy
			
Publication Year: 2002
Publisher: Kluwer Academic Publishers
            http://www.wkap.nl/, http://www.kluweronline.com		
			
Book URL: http://www.wkap.nl/prod/b/1-4020-0585-7

Author: Dr. Muhammad Hasan Amara, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan and
	Beit Berl College, Kefar Sava, Israel
Author: Dr. Abd Al-Rahman Mar'i, Beit Berl College, Kefar Sava, Israel
				
Hardback: ISBN: 1402005857, Pages: 221, Price: EUR 88.00 / USD 81.00 /
	  GBP 55.00
			
Abstract:

The Israeli reality points to a number of deep divisions among the
population (such as between Sephardi-Ashkenazi, Orthodox-secular,
men-women, Arab-Jew), most of which, in our opinion, are progressively
decreasing as time passes. The Arab-Jewish divide is the deepest of
all, and there is still no solution. In spite of its intensity, it did
not enjoy a centrality whether in public debates or in academia. This
subject has only come on the agenda after sharp tensions between Arabs
and Jews.

In this book we will explore in more detail some aspects of the
Arab-Jewish divide, which raise fundamental questions regarding the
place of the Arabs and Arab language education in the Jewish
State. More specifically, the aim of this book is to describe and
analyze language education in the Arab society in Israel from the
establishment of the state in 1948 until today. For this purpose,
internal processes, which are embedded within the Arab population
itself were examined, such as the socio-economic condition of the
population, the diglossic situation in the Arabic language, and the
wide use of Hebrew among Arabic speakers. Furthermore, the book also
deals with external processes such as the policy of control and
inspection of the Ministry of Education over the Arab education system
in general and on language education in particular, the dominance of
Hebrew, and the definition and perception of Israel as a Jewish
State. The influence of both internal and external processes on
language education and learning achievements will also be extensively
discussed. A comprehensive examination was made of Arabic, Hebrew and
English, as well as the teaching of French in a number of community
schools.

The target group for this book are people who are concerned with
sociolinguistics, language education, and language policy and
planning. This book will be also of special interest to Arab language
teachers and policy-makers in Israel.

Contents

Preface by the Series Editors (Bernard Spolsky & Elana Shohamy).
Preface.
Acknowledgements.
List of Tables.
List of Figures.
1. Introduction.
2. The Arabs in Israel: Internal and Regional Developments.
3. The Linguistic Repertoire: Sociolinguistic and Political Aspects.
4.Policy and Teaching Arabic as a Mother Tongue.
5. Policy and Teaching Hebrew as a Second Language.
6. Policy and Teaching English as a First Foreign Language.
7. Policy and Teaching French as a Second Foreign Language.
8. Language Attitudes and Ideologies.
Epilogue.
Appendix I.
Appendix II.
Bibliography.
Subject Index.

Lingfield(s):   Historical Linguistics
		Sociolinguistics
			
Subject Language(s):  Arabic, Standard (Language code: ABV)

Written In:  English (Language Code: ENG)

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:01 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:WOCMES
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Guenter Meyer <G.Meyer at Geo.Uni-Mainz.DE>
Subject:WOCMES

Dear colleague,

After the great success of the First World Congress for Middle Eastern
Studies (WOCMES), which brought more than 2000 scholars from 52
countries to the University of Mainz (see www.wocmes.de), it is planned
that the Second WOCMES will be held in the Middle East or Europe in
autumn 2005 or spring 2006. The Third WOCMES is due in 2008/2009.

All institutions which are interested in hosting one of these two world
congresses are kindly requested to contact the WOCMES-Secretariat and to
provide the following information:

- Name and address of the institution; persons responsible for the
organisation of the World Congress;

- Previous experience in hosting conferences;

- Proposed location of WOCMES (accessibility and distance to nearest
international airport, availability of lecture halls for 20 - 25
parallel sessions and 1500 - 2000 participants);

- Accommodation (number of hotel rooms close to the WOCMES location,
range of hotel prices, availability of low-cost accommodation for
students);

- Financial matters (expected registration fee; prospects of financial
support from public sources or private institutions; chance to get
reduced air fares; availability of travel grants for low-income paper
presenters);

- Proposed date of WOCMES (taking into consideration regular major
conferences on the Middle East, holiday seasons, start and end of
university terms, major religious festivities, weather conditions);

- Possibility to arrange an attractive program of cultural events and
sightseeing tours.

Please send this information to wocmes at geo.uni-mainz.de before 10
January 2003.

Yours sincerely
Guenter Meyer

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:06 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:06 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Fundraising Advice responses
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1) Subject:Fundraising Advice response
2) Subject:Fundraising Advice response

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:"Ahmed.I.S" <ibhims20002 at yahoo.com>
Subject:Fundraising Advice response

?Dear?Dr Sawsan Hosny, Ph. D.=A0,

It gives us a great pleasure to learn that there is new course of  
Arabic language establishing around the globe. As far?as I know , I may  
suggest?that you may contact an Arab governments such as UAE, Saudi,  
Kuwait, ?with an?official letter to the Skiek Zayed the?governor of  
United Arab Emirate or Dr Sultan, ?one of the governor ?of United Arab  
Emirate ?. Last ?year August -Sept when I visited Exeter University at  
UK for CALL ?conference, ?

?Thank you and Regards
Ibrahim Suliman Ahmed- (Arabic lecturer)

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Hammoud Salah Civ USAFA/DFF <Salah.Hammoud at usafa.af.mil>
Subject:Fundraising Advice response

It is frustrating to hear of  departments or institutions which  
"approve"
Arabic programs or courses without the financial backing necesssary to  
get
them going. I am sure there must be ways this is done and channels that  
can
be pursued in New Zealand that many of us here in the US are completely
unaware of, not knowing what the local context is like.

And these days with funding sources for Arabic and Islamic studies being
under particular scrutiny, the best way is to tap the local heritage
communities, which include business, civic and religious organizations  
but
more at the grassroots level. They have a stake in taking ownership of  
the
"course" and will hopefully come through. In addition, some accredited
diplomatic missions from Arab countries, the Arab League of States, the
Islamic Science, Education and Culture Organization, etc. might have  
some
grant monies they are willing to devote to the teaching of
Arabic and Islam.

I realize this is more of a message of empathy and wishfull thinking  
than of
concrete help, but I truly hope that your attempts at sensitizing the  
Arab
and Muslim community will lead to some results for you. Grassroots  
efforts
can really make a difference.

Good luck!

Salah Hammoud.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:31:58 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:31:58 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs Beginning Arabic Syllabus and Instructor
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1)
Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: John Eisele <jceise at wm.edu>
Subject:Needs Beginning Arabic Syllabus and Instructor

Please respond to the following request for information--
?
 > >Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 19:16:59 -0500
 > >From: saul rosenstreich <susaul at peconic.net>
 > >X-Sender: "saul rosenstreich" <susaul at mail.peconic.net> (Unverified)
 > >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-NECCK? (Win95; U)
 > >X-Accept-Language: en
 > >Subject: Request for information
 > >
 > >I am chair of Foreign Languages and Literature at Dowling College in  
New
 > >York.? Our department offers courses in French, Italian, Russian and
 > >Spanish.? It is time for us to offer a course in Beginning Arabic.?  
Whom
 > >can I contact to help me write a sample syllabus and locate a  
potential
 > >adjunct instructor of Arabic?
 > >
 > >Susan L. Rosenstreich
 > >Associate Professor of Foreign Languages
 > >Department of Foreign Languages and Literature
 > >Dowling College
 > >Oakdale, New York? 11769
 > >USA

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:08 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Computer Framework query
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1)
Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: "AhmedComputer Framework query

Dear?colleagues,
?I am doing research on ?Computer in Education?. I in need of the  
?Computer Framework for both Multimedia and the Internet. I do hope you  
may refer me to any site in the web. Looking forward to hearing from  
you.
Thank you and Regards
Ahmed.I.S-IIUM

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:10 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:10 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Ma'arri book identification
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1)
Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:jolandaguardi <jolandaguardi at iol.it>
Subject:Ma'arri book identification

dear Udaba',
in a book of Nuruddin Farah, Maps, I found a reference to a book of  
Al-Ma'arri "Letter of a Horse and a Mule".  Does anyone knows what book  
is this?
Thanks
Jolanda Guardi, Milano Italy
Universit? di Milano e Pavia

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:18 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:18 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Tunis Summer Program
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1) Subject:Tunis Summer Program

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1)
Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Fondation Universitaire Bouebdelli <intac.ult at planet.tn>
Subject:Tunis Summer Program

Located in Tunis, capital of Tunisia, a melting pot of civilizations,  
the Universit? Libre de Tunis, within the frame of its Faculty of Arts,  
Humanities and Human Sciences, offers tuition in standard modern Arabic  
language leading to a didactic diploma in Arabic as a foreign language.

This course, which is organized in five graded levels, is provided  
annually during the whole of the university year and is also provided  
as a summer intensive course during the month of July.

Each session covers 90 h which is validated as 6 credits, thus allowing  
to obtain 30 credits following the completion of five levels of studies.

We propose also on the campus a dormitories for foreign students during  
the summer.

For the moment, would you be kind enough to spread the information to  
the students interested in Arabic courses for next summer 2003, they  
can read a brochure at  
www.ult.ens.tn/BROCHURE/summer%20course%20arabic%20language.pdf. We are  
hoping that this partnership is in agreement with your policy for the  
development of Arabic studies and your projects.

Truly yours,

Mehdi BOUEBDELLI
Representative in External Relations

P.S : You will find all the information concerning this summer course  
on our website (English) : www.ult.ens.tn


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:13 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:13 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:NCOLCTL Final Call for Papers
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1)
Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: "McGinnis, Scott" <smcginnis at nflc.org>
Subject:NCOLCTL Final Call for Papers

FINAL CALL FOR PROPOSALS

National Council of Organizations of Less Commonly Taught Languages
6th National Conference

Los Angeles, California
May 2-4, 2003

Focus on the Learner in the LCTLs:  Profiles and Prospects

The Sixth National Conference of the National Council of Organizations
of Less Commonly Taught Languages (NCOLCTL) is scheduled May 2-4,
2003, at the University of California, Los Angeles

Proposals are solicited for individual papers, colloquia and poster
sessions. The formats are described below. Proposals should fall
broadly within the Conference theme of "Focus on the Learner in the
LCTLs: Profiles, Motivations and Opportunities."  Although proposed
presentations may focus on individual languages, each should address
issues that clearly relate to more than just that one language.  The
focus of session topics might include:

Heritage language learners
Bilingual education students
Autonomous and self-instructional setting students
Distance education students;

Proposals on learner needs analysis are especially welcome. Other
topics such as curriculum and materials development, teacher training
and professionalization, and research studies will also be
considered.

Individual papers are 20 minutes long. A paper should focus clearly on
one or more issues related to the theme. Papers may be based on
research or practical experience.

Colloquia are 90 minutes. A colloquium proposal should specify three
or more presenters who will address one of the conference themes.
Preference will be given to panels that cut across different languages
or language groups.

Poster and presentation sessions may focus on completed work or work
in progress related to the teaching and/or learning of less commonly
taught languages.  They may be of either the traditional poster
format, such as presentation of materials or of results of research in
progress, or demonstrations of instructional or information
technology. However, any proposal requiring technical support must
specify in detail the type of hardware and software needed.

Proposals should indicate the title and kind of presentation (paper,
colloquium or poster session) in the upper left-hand corner, and the
name of the presenter and the presenter's primary language(s) in the
upper right-hand corner.  The proposed title should not exceed ten
words.  Next should be a 50-75 word abstract suitable for inclusion in
the conference program.  The proposal text should be 150-200 words
long and may not exceed one page in length.

If possible, proposals should be submitted in electronic format by
email to Scott McGinnis: smcginnis at nflc.org.  If email is not
available, proposals may be sent to the following address by hard
copy:

Scott McGinnis
National Foreign Language Center
7100 Baltimore Avenue, Suite 300
College Park, MD 20740
Phone   301-403-1750 x35
Fax      301-403-1754
Email    smcginnis at nflc.org

The final deadline for receipt of proposals is December 1, 2002.
Applicants will be notified by email within one week of the receipt of
their submissions.  They will be notified by the Program Committee by
January 15, 2003, whether their proposal has been accepted.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:16 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:16 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Dissertation
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1) Subject:New Dissertation Socioling: Berjaoui "A Study of the "ghous"
in Morocco"

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:New Dissertation Socioling: Berjaoui "A Study of the "ghous" in
Morocco"

Institution: Chouaib Doukkali University
Program: Sociolinguistics
Dissertation Status: Completed
Degree Date: 1999

Author: Nasser Berjaoui

Dissertation Title:
A Study of the "ghous" in Morocco

Dissertation URL:
http://www.geocities.com/nasserberjaoui2002/academic_degrees.htm

Linguistic Field: Sociolinguistics

Dissertation Director 1: Dominique Caubet
Dissertation Director 2: Fatima Sadiqi
Dissertation Director 3: Jilali Saib
Dissertation Director 4: Moha Ennaji

Dissertation Abstract:

This dissertation, fully based on an extensive fieldwork of eight
years, presents the rules of the Moroccan Arabic 'ghous' (a Secret
Language) of the Tafilalet (South-east of Morocco) in four parts. The
first part shows that the Tafilalet 'ghous' comprises four
multi-faceted types, namely the Substitution-Pseudo-Suffixation, the
Substitution, the Restructuration and the Inversion types, and that
the variables of localization, communities, age and sex characterize
each type. The second part discusses the rules in the encoding of
prefixless, prefixed and negated words in the four types of the
Tafilalet 'ghous'. The Substitution-Pseudo-Suffixation 'ghous' works
through the replacement of the opening consonant of the word by the
consonant of the 'ghous' and by the hosting of the replaced opening
consonant in a disguise element that is pseudo-suffixed to the
word. The Substitution 'ghous' functions through the simple
replacement of the first consonant of the word by a consonant of the
varieties of this family. The Restructuration type is based on the
deletion of the vowels of the word and on the restructuration of the
remaining consonants in terms of four distinct patterns, namely the
L-CUCI FUCI/L-CUCeC FUCeC, the MeTT-CACCI TRISA/TIFeRKUSIN, the
MeTT-CACCI, and the Te-CCICI WICI/Te-CCICeC WICeC. The Inversion type
operates by the postposing of given items in the word. The second
issue that is analysed in the second part in this study is related to
the encoding, in the four types of the Tafilalet 'ghous', of examples
that are preceded by the negational element 'ma' and/or prefixes. In
the Substitution-Pseudo-Suffixation and the Substitution 'ghous', it
is the opening consonant of the word root that is substituted. In the
Restructuration 'ghous', each sub-type encodes the parts of speech in
question in several different and flexible ways. In the Inversion
type, any elements that may precede or follow the word are taken as
part of it and are encoded accordingly. The third part shows the
encoding of long parts of speech, short parts of speech (usually
one-consonantals) and lengthened parts of speech (lengthened
one-consonantals). Long parts of speech are optionally encoded in the
Substitution-Pseudo-Suffixation as well as the Substitution
'ghous'. The Restructuration 'ghous' encodes these parts of speech in
several ways. The Inversion type operates through the encoding of
these either as separate parts of speech or as part of the word they
precede. The third part analyses the syntactic structure of the
encoded phrases, clauses and sentences in the Tafilalet 'ghous'. In
the Substitution-Pseudo-Suffixation, the Substitution and the
Restructuration 'ghous', the structures of all the forms in question
are not affected in the encoding. In the Inversion 'ghous, however,
all the sentence, the clause and the phrase structures -with the
exception of nominal and prepositional phrases- remain unchanged. In
the former case, the definite article no longer precedes the noun, and
in the latter, the preposition follows the noun. In the latter cases,
the encoding operation affects the entire phrase and not the word. The
fourth part presents a very limited extract of the fieldwork,
self-recorded, conversational and multi-functional corpora and shows
the substantial use of the 'ghous' words, sentences and entire
every-day verbal exchanges.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:21 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:21 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Conversion Stories in Early Narratives query
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:Conversion Stories in Early Narratives query

A professor who teaches Golden Age Spanish Literature has asked the
following:
He says that in Cervantes Don Quixote there is an inset story of a man
being imprisoned in North Africa, and being saved by a women who has
secretly converted to Christianity.  Apparently such conversion stories
were commonly used in Spanish narratives of the era, and served both an
obvious political/cultural purpose as well as several more subtle
literary ones.
His students have asked him, and he didn't know the answer, whether in
the Islamic literary tradition (any time period would do but it would
be particularly helpful if it was more or less the same time as
Cervantes) there were any similar uses in narrative of stories of
someone converting from Christianity to Islam.  He is particularly
interested in a specific reference that he could use in class or assign
the students to read.  Any help will be appreciated.  You can respond
directly to me and I will post a summary to the list.
Dil Parkinson

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:24 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs NLP research topic
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: RASHA GABER <rashagab at yahoo.com>
Subject:Needs NLP research topic

Dear linguists,
I am a young researcher interested in multilingual
NLP. I am especially interested in Arabic and English.
I do not want to embark on some useless academic
research that would be of no benefit to any one. I
would rather tackle a real problem...do something
really useful. Can you suggest a research topic?

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:31 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:31 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Large vocabulary response
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1) Subject:Large vocabulary response
2) Subject:Difficulty  response
3) Subject:Large vocabulary response

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: shawky at aucegypt.edu
Subject:Large vocabulary response

Dear colleague,
My Ma thesis dealt with Arabic learning difficulty areas , major area
was
having to cope with a large number of lexis in order to acquire Arabic.
Please
see Holes ,C (1995)pp127-129 speaking of- ishtiqaq-where Holes declares
that
Arabic language is enriched with lexis that emerges out of a derivatinal
system that allows several words from the same meaning. No wonder one
the
items included in the study questionnaire was stated by one of Arabic
learners."  learning Arabic is learning enourmous vocabulary. I hope
you find
my response helpful.
Nehad Shawqy

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Michael Akard <michael_akard at hotmail.com>
Subject:Difficulty response

I, too, used to wonder about why Arabic-speaking students seemed to
master English so rapidly. A Saudi friend went so far as to tell me
that because Arabic is such a difficult language, all other languages
come easily to speakers of Arabic. And when I asked him how I could
learn Arabic, he paused, studied me for a few moments, and replied,
"Oh, I don't think you can!" The Arabic language, he explained, was
simply too difficult.

However, consideration of the respective roles of Arabic in English
society and English in Arab society sheds a little more light. Most
Anglo-Americans, for example, do not speak Arabic, have never studied
Arabic, and probably could not distinguish an Arabic text from a Farsi,
Assyrian, or Amharic text. Those who begin such language study
typically do so during their college years, long after the window of
opportunity for gaining native-like fluency has closed, so Arabic, for
them, will always be a "foreign" language.

Middle-Eastern Arabs, in contrast, typically begin studying English as
a required subject in high school or elementary school. Many attend
schools in which English is the primary language of instruction. Even
if Arabic is spoken, and even if their English language instructors are
Egyptian or Lebanese, these students are quite comfortable with the
Roman alphabet and have a broad, working knowledge of English from an
early age, so a foundation of knowledge is built that allows quick
advancement to functional fluency in English at a later time. In
addition, many professional fields, such as medicine and aviation, use
English, so the idea is present from an early age that English fluency
is part of their destiny because of its importance for future
professional success.

But even if an Arab never actively studies English until that one year
you mention in your question, English language and text is ubiquitous
in the Arab world. I speak from personal experience: when I first went
to Kuwait (where I spent three years), I looked forward to immersing
myself in the local language. But the road signs were in English, the
newspapers were in English, the television stations broadcast English
progamming -- it was practically impossible not to use English. And
since most Kuwaitis I met spoke English better than I spoke Kuwaiti
Arabic, our conversations often defaulted to English. So much for
language immersion!

These are, I believe, some of the factors involved in the relative
rapidity with which Arabic speakers learn English.

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3)
Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: suma99 at att.net
Subject:Large Vocabulary response

What Haidar Moukdad put forth as an explanation of the vocab. question
does not work for me, and the script comments don't hold up well either.
If we count vocabulary in the sense of words linguistically or
etymologically
pure to either of the respective two languages, keeping at least to a
minimum
foreign loan words, then I think Arabic is the winner. We have in
English
dictionaries words that are utterly foreign and un-anglocized, many
such words
in fact! (hors d'oeuvres, rapprochment, siesta, savoir-faire, nee, modus
operendi, etc.)Should words like these really be counted as English?

As for the reasons why maybe learners of English have an easier time
learning
to speak it than learners of arabic do; I think it's got to do with the
fact
that English has become so universal, as a lingua franca (no pun
intended), so
every one is exposed to it in some way or another. Then there is the
diglossia
problem in arabic which students must overcome.

Ismael

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:28 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:28 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Georgetown Intensive Summer Program 2003 website
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: mehalld at georgetown.edu
Subject:Georgetown Intensive Summer Program 2003 website

For information about Georgetown Universities Intensive Summer 2003
Arabic programs, please log on to the following site:

  http://www.georgetown.edu/departments/arabic/summer.htm

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:38 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:New Issue of Al-Adab
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Kirsten Idriss <kidriss at cyberia.net.lb>
Subject:New Issue of Al-Adab

Please post this information about our most recent issue:

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?(Part II): CENSORSHIP IN EGYPT

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discussion and into the realm of action, 19 leading Egyptian authors,  
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-- ?Censorship and its Consequences,? Nasr Hamid Abu Zayd
-- ?Censorship and Tilka al-Ra?iha,? Sun?Allah Ibrahim
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-- ?Censorship Is a Beast Threatening Writing,? Edward al-Kharrat
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:32:50 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:32:50 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Thesaurus Foundation
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: "thesaurus at cmeis.cam.ac.uk" <thesaurus at cmeis.cam.ac.uk>
Subject:Thesaurus Foundation

[I apologize for the lateness of this announcement.  It arrived after I  
had already left for MESA--Dil]

Dear Colleagues,

TheThesaurus Islamicus Foundationis pleased to inform you of its recent  
association with theCentre of Middle Eastern and Islamic Studiesat the  
University of Cambridge. Henceforth the Thesaurus Islamicus  
Foundation'sSunna Project, including theHadith Encyclopaediaand  
theIHSAN Network, will be based at the Centre.

We take this opportunity to invite you to visit our stand 43 at the  
2002 MESA Conference in Washington D.C. from November 23rd to 26th.Tim  
Winter, Director of the Sunna Project and University Lecturer in  
Islamic Studies at the Faculty of Divinity, Cambridge University, will  
be there and pleased to give you more information about the project and  
to answer any queries you may have. Also attending will beProfessor S.  
Abdallah Schleiferof the American University in Cairo, Academic Liaison  
Officer of the Foundation andMustafa Gouverneur-Henry, Managing  
Director, Tradigital Cairo, the Foundation's IT administrator.

We look forward to seeing you this weekend in Washington D.C.
?
The Sunna Project,
Centre of Middle Eastern and Islamic Studies,
University of Cambridge,
Sidgwick Avenue, Cambridge CB3 9DA
United Kingdom
Tel/Fax: + 44 1223 335103
Email:thesaurus at cmeis.cam.ac.uk

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:35:15 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:35:15 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Bibliography on written Arabic Diglossia query
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:Natalia Palacios  <npalacios at web.de>
Subject:Bibliography on written Arabic Diglossia query

Dear all,

I am writing my M.A. thesis on diglossia in the Egyptian magazine "Rose
al-Youssef". So far I haven't found any comparable studies. If any of
you is
aware of any literature on diglossia in modern written Arabic, that
would
greatly help me. Any other observations about the subject are welcome.

Thank you and kind regards

Natalia Palacios

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Dec  5 20:55:41 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 13:55:41 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Jobs
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1) Subject:Temple University Job
2) Subject: Lots of other jobs

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1)
Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:moderator
Subject: Temple University Job

This is a one year contract, renewable upon review, pending budgetary
approval.  Candidates will teach elementary through advanced Arabic,
with interests in second language acquisition, applied linguistics,
language pedagogy or related fields.  Course load is three per
semester; candidates expected to employ instructional technology, and
be acquainted with proficiency based teaching at the college level.
Priority to applications received by December 16, 2002.  Send CV,
statement of teaching philosophy and methods, and graduate transcripts,
and three letters of recommendation to:
Director, Critical Languages
Anderson Hall, 022-38
Temple University
Philadelphia, PA  19122-6090

phone: 215-204-8268

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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From:moderator
Subject: Lots of other jobs

The MESA Bulletin lists quite a few Arabic related job openings.  I
will give a partial list.  Details can be had from the Bulletin, or
from the MESA employment website:

http://fp.arizona.edu/mesassoc/employment.htm

Here are the ones I saw:

American University in Cairo: Arabic Lit
Columbia: Arabic Language
Hofstra: Arabic and Comp Lit
Middlebury: Arabic Language, tenure track
Princeton: Arabic Language, lecturer
Wayne State: Arabic language and linguistics

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:32 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:32 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Conversion Story responses
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Franklin D Lewis <flewis at emory.edu>
Subject:Conversion Story response

Dil:
   There is a great example of this in Farid al-Din Attar's _Conference
of the Birds_ (Mantiq al-tayr), which Dick Davis has translated
from Persian to English verse for Penguin Classics.  The Story of
Shaykh Sam`an (pp57-75 in Penguin ed.) is about an old Muslim
man - a Sufi saint - who converts to Christianity for love a girl, but
in the end he returns to Islam and the girl converts to Islam as well.
    Attar's poem dates to the late 12th century of the common era,
and so is quite a bit earlier than Cervantes.
     yrs, Frank

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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Dwight Reynolds <dreynold at religion.ucsb.edu>
Subject:Conversion Story response

Dil,

Not a fiction account but an historical one, the autobiography of
`Abdullah al-
Turjuman (Fray Anselmo Turmeda) recounts his conversion to Islam in the
15th
century.  It is a fascinating account that has received little
attention in
English, though it is well known among Spanish scholars due to an
edition and
translation by Mikel de Epalza.

An English translation of the first chapter of the text, which recounts
the
conversion, appears in <Interpreting the Self: Autobiography in the
Arabic
Literary Tradition> (U of California Press, 2001).  The book includes 13
translated autobiographical texts plus an annotated bibliography of 140
Arabic
autobiographies dating from the 9th to the 19th centuries.  Among them
is also
the conversion autobiography of Samaw'al al-Maghribi who converted from
Judaism to Islam in the 12th century.  Both texts are essentially
polemical
works directed at the authors' former co-religionists.

In addition, leaping to more modern times, there are dozens of folk
<Qisas al-
mashayikh> performed at mulids all over Egypt that purport to be
conversion
narratives from all periods of history of Christians, Jews, and Fire-
worshippers to Islam.  I would assume that some of these can be found in
print, but don't have any citations to give you offhand. I would also
assume
that they represent the continuation of a long oral tradition of such
tales,
but again, don't have specific cites for you.

I will be interested to hear of other conversion narratives, fictional
or
otherwise.

Salamat from Granada, Spain,
Dwight

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:35 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:35 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Article
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:New Article

The journal phonology contains the following article of interest to
Arabic-L subscribers:

Publisher: Cambridge University Press
            http://www.cup.org
	
Journal Title: Phonology
Volume Number: 19
Issue Number: 1
Issue Date: May 2002

Bernard N. Bachra (2001). The phonological structure of the verbal
roots in Arabic and Hebrew. (Studies in Semitic Languages and
Linguistics 34.) Leiden: Brill. Pp. xv+326.
Stefan A. Frisch

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:37 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:37 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Book on Byzantine Muslim diplomacy
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Andreas Kaplony <kaplony at oriental.unizh.ch>
Subject:Book on Byzantine Muslim diplomacy

Dear colleagues

My  book on the first hundert years of Byzantine-Muslim diplomacy had
been
out of print for a couple of years. These days, I recieved the first
copies of the reprint. Please, enjoy reading.

All the best, Andreas Kaplony


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Andreas KAPLONY. - Konstantinopel und Damaskus: Gesandtschaften und
Vertraege zwischen Kaisern und Kalifen 639-750: Untersuchungen zum
Gewohnheits-Voelkerrecht und zur interkulturellen Diplomatie. - Berlin:
Klaus Schwarz-Verlag, 1996. 2nd, unchanged edition Berlin 2002. -
Islamkundliche Untersuchungen 208. - ISBN 3-87997-260-5. - EUR 47.00

The research deals with Byzantine-Muslim diplomacy between 639 and 750.
Its interest is not in external affairs nor in theoretical international
law, but in the unwritten rules of intercultural diplomacy, the
"technique
des relations internationales", the common law of international affairs.

The focus is on contacts between sovereign rulers. This means on the
Byzantine side the emperor, relying mainly on Constantinople and Asia
Minor, or, in the case of two emperors in competition, both of them. On
the Muslim side, the clan of the Omayyads, relying mainly on Syria,
monopolizes the contacts, beginning with Mu'awiya when amir of Syria;
their rivals in al-Kufa and in Medina do not get into touch with the
emperors.

The first part deals, one by one, with 51 embassies and treaties, as
they
are found in Greek, Latin, Arabic, Syriac and Armeniac sources,
mentioning
the sources, the references in secondary literature, the details as far
as
known of who is the ambassador, how long does he stay, how long is the
eventual treaty planned for and so on; historical embassies and treaties
are dated. The second part summarizes the first part in asking the same
questions in general.
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:39 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:39 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Young Leb Authors on Civil War response
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Rahel Halabe <rahel at telus.net>
Subject:Young Leb Authors on Civil War response

Try 'Hajr alDaHk' by Huda Barakat.
French translation is much better than the English one.

Rahel

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:51 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:51 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: "gwitty at earthlink.net"
Subject:Needs Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists

Dear udabaa'

I've been working at the Linguistic Data Consortium, which is affiliated
with
the U. of Pennsylvania, on various computational linguistics projects
dealing with Arabic.   Many of the folks who work here are professional
linguists who have never studied Arabic.  (they keep telling me they
want
to but don't have the time)  Part of what I'm doing is explaining to
them
various ways in which the Arabic language does things differently from
English.   They've asked me if there are any good general introductions
to
"how the Arabic language works,"  written for linguists.

Can anyone recommend a source or two (preferably chapter length, not a
whole book) which ideally would assume no knowledge of Arabic but is
written with an audience of linguists in mind?  There must be a
linguistics
textbook somewhere which has this sort of thing...

Thanks in advance for any ideas.
al-Mukhlis
Gordon

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Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Needs specific instructions to get PC to do Arabic
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Gaye Price <gprice at uop.edu>
Subject:Needs specific instructions to get PC to do Arabic

Dear Arabic List subscribers,
I am interested in knowing how to ready my computer (Dell with Windows
98) to do Arabic computing.  It seems to be that I need to have Windows
2000.  Does anyone know how I might go about achieving this capability
on my desktop.  I already have the keyboard printout.  I have had
several technical people attempt to do this facilitation, but they
aren't familiar with the language.  If you know this process, would you
be so kind as to share the information with me? shukran!
Gaye Price
University of the Pacific
Stockton, CA

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:43 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Beginning Arabic Syllabus response
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Mohammad <mohd at mail.ukans.edu>
Subject:Beginning Arabic Syllabus response

Dear saul rosenstreich <susaul at peconic.net>
You can contact the Yarmouk University Lanugage Center/ Jordan at
lang_cen at yu.edu.jo
They have been doing this for a long time now. Also Jordan University
has
another neat program. Contact them at
  lancen at ju.edu.jo
Best,

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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:45 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:IBC url
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From:Claudette Mukalla <ibc at ibcbooks.com>
Subject:IBC url

Looking for a great website to purchase Arabic textbooks, computer  
software,?literature, cookbooks, Arab history and culture, children's  
books and much more.
www.ibcbooks.com

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:56 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Translation/Interpretation Programs Query
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From:Lisa Buckmaster <saxxgod at hotmail.com>
Subject:Translation/Interpretation Programs Query

Salaam.
This question has undoubtedly been asked and discussed at length here,  
but I seem to have missed out. Can anyone suggest for me a program for  
translation and (hopefully) interpretation between English and Arabic  
in the US? It seems to me that the schools that offer Arabic focus  
mainly on the teaching the language, so how do students go from Arabic  
proficiency to translation or interpretation?
?
Respectfully,
Lisa

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:31:03 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Ma'arri book identification responses
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2) Subject:Ma'arri book identification response
3) Subject:Ma'arri book identification response

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1)
Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: rallen at ccat.sas.upenn.edu
Subject:Ma'arri book identification response

There is an article on this work by Pieter Smoor, in the JOURNAL OF  
ARABIC
LITERATURE Volume 12 (1981):73.

ROGER ALLEN

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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Muhammad S Eissa <eissa at umich.edu>
Subject:Ma'arri book identification response

In response to the above question here is a short answer:

Yes, Abu al-Alaa has written a risaala called ?Risatat al-Sahil  
wal-shaahij? and here is some information about it.

("Letter of a horse and a mule"), which among other works now lost was  
addressed to
the governor ofAleppo. This supposedly lost Risala has recently been  
discovered inMoroccoand subsequently edited with a critical apparatus  
and introduction, by `Aisha Abdel RaHman ?Bint al-ShaaTi?? (Cairo1975).  
Abu 'l-?Alaa?" completed this voluminous Risala in about 411/1021
Besides a great display of erudite learning in technical terms for  
various
phenomena in metrics and rhyme, one also finds in the Risala many  
quotations of poetry which
in some way frequently contain descriptions of animals. Such a display  
of learning and the
poetical lines quoted, though originally composed via association,  
often tend to interfere with
the smooth and logical development of events in the Risala. The same  
phenomenon can be found in the Risalat al-Ghufran which was composed at  
a later date. On the other hand, the R.
al-Ghufran is distinguished from its predecessor, the R. al-Sahil, by a  
much greater amount of irony
and derision at its protagonist and also by its greater interest shown  
in religious questions. For further details, see P. Smoor, Enigmatic  
allusion and double meaning in Ma`arri's newly- discovered Letter of a  
Horse and Mule, in JAL, xii (1981), xiii (1982).

Extract from the Encyclopaedia of Islam CD-ROM Edition v. 1.0

? 1999 Koninklijke Brill NV,Leiden, TheNetherlands

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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Dr. M Deeb" <mdeeb at gpu.srv.ualberta.ca >
Subject:Ma'arri book identification response

Dear Miss Guardi,
?
??? In response to your query, Ma'arri's book in question is very  
likely _Risaalat aS-Saahil wa'sh-ShaaHij_ (Epistle of the Neigher and  
the Brayer).? The two active participles used in the Arabic title  
denote respectively "the horse" and "the mule."? Al-Ma'arri (973 -  
1058) as well as others preface their prose works with "risaalah"  
(epistle), which in this respect stands for treatise /monograph /  
essay.? In sharp contrast, Alexander Pope, uses "essay" in the title of  
some of his poems, e.g. "Essay on Man" & Essay on Criticism."
?
??? _Risaalat aS-Saahil wa'sh-ShaaHij_ is an historical and literary  
document, in which events are re-enacted by two principal actors: a  
horse and a mule.? Other "secondary actors," such as a camel, a fox, a  
hyena and a dove, participate in the dramatic representation.? Whilst  
analogies may?be drawn between this work and Ibn al-Muqaffa''s _Kalilah  
wa Dimnah_ (8th. c.), the two works are essentially different.? The  
dialagues in al-Ma'arri's work address factual events in the history of  
Syria and Egypt, and revolve round?historical personalities known at  
the time of composition.? Al-Ma'arri's spirit of irony deliberately  
exposes the maladies of his time, so much so that I'm reminded here of  
Orwell's _Animal Farm_.
?
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? M. Deeb

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:53 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:53 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Needs OCR for Arabic transcription
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Hanna Schaufelberger <hschaufe at hotmail.com>
Subject:Needs OCR for Arabic transcription

I have had trouble finding an optical character recognition program
which will be able to convert scanned text in transcribed Egyptian
Arabic into a word document or rich text formate file, since the
"regular" ocr program can not recognize the special latin characters
used for "sad","9ain" etc. as letters. Can you recommend an ocr program
which works with the latin transcription alphabet for Arabic?

Thank you very much,
H. Schaufelberger.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:30:59 2002
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Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:30:59 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Bibliography on Written Arabic Diglossia response
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: Mohammad <mohd at mail.ukans.edu>
Subject:Bibliography on Written Arabic Diglossia response

You can check
Versteegh, K. (2001) The Arabic Language. Edinburgh UP.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 11 21:31:08 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:31:08 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Large Vocabulary response
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Date:  11 Dec 2002
From: dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:Large Vocabulary response

> Those who begin such language study
> typically do so during their college years, long after the window of
> opportunity for gaining native-like fluency has closed, so Arabic, for
> them, will always be a "foreign" language.

This  window of opportunity is a widely held misconception.  It should
be
noted that it takes
children fifteen years to acquire full proficiency in their native
languages.

Some say it takes adults a little less than that to acquire Arabic.
(And a
lot less for other
languages).

I began studying Arabic after the age of thirty, and  people around
here are
amazed at my
fluency.  Of course, I have the distinct advantage of living in an
environment
in which I am
surrounded by the language 24 hours a day.

It took about seven years for me to get fairly good at it, and I didn't
really
get  that way
until
I came to the Middle East.

It takes longer to learn Arabic than it does for other languages, but
it is
doable, and, as in
learning any language,  students should time in the target culture.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:04 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:04 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Textbooks history query
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: dbacherm at mail.waldenu.edu
Subject:Arabic Textbooks history query

Hello,

I am doing some research about the development or evolution of
textbooks for teaching Arabic.  Specifically, I am interested in how
and why the content and approach has changed since the mid-1900's to
the present.  Any knowledge of specific research already done on this
topic or general suggestions of where to look for such research would
be greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:01 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:01 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:New Issue of Quaderni di studi arabi
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Eros Baldissera <balderos at helios.unive.it>
Subject:New Issue of Quaderni di studi arabi

New issue for QSA - Quaderni di studi arabi, n. 19 (2001) of Arabistic
Section in Cafoscari University of Venice - Italy.

INDEX QSA 19 (2001)

PATRICIA CRONE
Shuuraa as an Elective Institution, 3-39
TAYEB EL-HIBRI
The Image of the Caliph al-Waathiq: A Riddle of Religious and Historical
Significance, 41-60
OFER LIVNE- KAFRI
Fadaa?il Bayt al-Maqdis (The Merits of Jerusalem): Two Additional Notes,
61-70
ARNOUD VROLIJK
The Leiden Edition of Tabarii?s Annals. The Search for the Istanbul
Manuscripts as Reflected in Michael Jan de Goeje?s Correspondence, 71-86
MARIA PIA PEDANI
Appunti sul Consolato veneto in Marocco nella seconda met? del XVIII
secolo, 87-100
FRANCESCA LUCCHETTA
Le dieci questioni di Avicenna, 101-134
ROXANE D. MARCOTTE
L?anthropologie philosophique de Shams al-Diin al-Shahrazuurii et ses
racines suhrawardiennes: les facult?s internes, 135-146
SEEGER A. BONEBAKKER
The Misery of the Men of Letters. Some Quotations from their Poetry,  
147-161
BARBARA MICHALAK-PIKULSKA
Contemporary Arabic Theatre in Kuwait and Bahrain, 163-172
JOSEPH SADAN
Background, Date and Meaning of the Story of the Alexandrian Lover and  
the
Magic Lamp, 173-192
ELISABETH ZACK
The Use of Colloquial Arabic in Prose Literature : Laban il`asfuur by
Yuusuf al-Qa`iid, 193-219
ISTVAN ORMOS
Lane?s Description of Egypt, 221-224

English Summaries in:
http://helios.unive.it/~qsa/homepage.html

Ciao, Eros

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:08 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Translation Programs response
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: "sattar.izwaini at stud.umist.ac.uk"
Subject:Translation Programs response

Hi
I am not aware of any English/Arabic translation program in the
US. However, there are many in the UK and the Middle East.

An Ideal translation program would incorporate an advanced study
of both languages and their literatures, especially in the first part of
the course. It should aim at developing the students' translation
skills throughout the course, starting from the minimum extracts
(phrases, sentences, paragraphs) to full length texts of different
types (literary, legal, scientific and technical, journalistic etc.).
The
cultural aspect should be paid attention to as well.

Interpreting demands a very good command and fluency in both
languages. Time limit makes Interpreting much more demanding
than translation. So it should be taught at the second part of the
course.

Regards
Sattar

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:11 2002
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:11 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:more Large vocabulary responses
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Antonio Gim?nez <huesteantigua at yahoo.es>
Subject:Large vocabulary response

Dear Munir,

Maybe you will find interesting *The Semantics of Form in Arabic, in the
Mirror of European Languages* by David Justice (1987). He says, among  
other
things, that "public understanding of Arabic has suffered from much the  
same
stereotyping and exoticism as has that of Chinese, aggravated perhaps by
political factors" (p. 7) and revises many commonplaces about Arabic and
Arabic learning.

Personally, I agree with Jan Hoogland's response. Most Arabic speakers  
and
media do not use but a small part of what is listed in Arabic  
dictionaries.
The same applies to any language with a large textual corpus. As a  
native
Spanish speaker, I cannot imagine having to use or know every Spanish  
word
included in the smallest dictionary. The thing is that many methods and
dictionaries for Arabic learners pay little or any attention to  
pragmatics
and diachronical aspects: everything is Arabic, sure, but which  
century's
Arabic? This leads many students to take their Wehr's dictionary as an
"impossible must learn", making no distinction between common words,
not-so-common words and archaisms. Nearly native ability is replaced,  
as a
desirable while difficult aim to attain, by an impossible encyclopedic
knowledge. This results in many learners clinging to their dictionaries  
to
look up every word they find without retaining any of them because they  
lack
a living experience of the language.

In other words, native speakers swim in a lake of vocabulary and just go
into "the ocean" as scholars, while learners are directly thrown into  
this
same ocean without any life jacket...

I have been teaching Spanish to Arab elementary learners, most of them
fluent in French, for 3 years and I don't think there is such a thing  
as an
Arabic native speakers' gift for other languages. As far as I am  
concerned,
optimistic results in their vocabulary achievements should be related  
to the
fact that I tried to throw them "in a swimming pool", avoiding rare  
terms.
Of course, there are many other reasons like attitude and learners'  
beliefs
about the aimed language which could be discussed.

Antonio Gim?nez
huesteantigua at yahoo.es

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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Michael Akard <michael_akard at hotmail.com>
Subject:Large vocabulary response

> "I began studying Arabic after the age of thirty, and? people around?  
> here are
> amazed at my fluency.?"

That's truly commendable, and I applaud your achievement. But the issue  
here is not whether an older beginner can reach a high ability level in  
Arabic, but whether such a person can acquire true native-like fluency  
-- thinking and dreaming in Arabic, and reading and writing Arabic with  
the same facility as his or her native language. I would like to think  
it is possible, but I have never heard of anyone succeeding. Would you  
say that you are truly bilingual, functioning identically in Arabic and  
English?

Michael Akard

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:18 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Arabic Translation of Samaritan Pentateuch
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Haseeb Shehadeh <Haseeb.Shehadeh at Helsinki.Fi>
Subject:Arabic Translation of Samaritan Pentateuch

Dear Colleagues,

The Arabic translation of the Samaritan Pentateuch, Critical Edition
with Introduction. Volume two: Leviticus?Deuteronomy, 2002, xii + 629
pp. The Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities.

Haseeb Shehadeh?s new edition, the first since the incomplete and
inadequate edition published by A. Kuenen a century and a half ago,
presents both versions on facing pages. The old version ascribed to Abu
al-Hasan al-Suri from the 11th cent. and the newer recension of Abu
Sa?id from the 13th cent., which aimed to expunge the influence of the
Judaeo-Arabic Tafsir of Sa?adia Gaon (882-942). Though more than 100 MSS
were scrutinized, only 22 MSS are represented in the edition. The old
version is based on MS Nablus no. 6 from 1204 and was collates against 9
other MSS. The basic text for Abu Sa?id?s recension is MS Paris Arabe 5,
copied before the year 1514, which was collated against 11 other MSS.
The old version came down to us , as a rule, in the Samaritan script
while that of Abu Sa?id in  Arabic characters.

	Two critical apparatuses accompany the texts, an upper one addressing
emendations of the basic texts and a lower one listing textual variants.
Trilingual prospectus is available.
H. Shehadeh

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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:15 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabizing Windows 98 responses
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Paul Roochnik <paul at TranslationGuy.com>
Subject:Arabizing Windows 98 response

Gaye Price asked about doing Arabic on a PC with Win98.  To the best of
my knowledge, you must install the Arabic-enabled version of Windows
98.  After that, you should install the Arabic-enabled version of MS
Office.  That is the platform on which I worked for 4 years and it
served my Arabic processing needs quite well.  Now I am using Win2k-Pro
which requires no Arabization.  Either way is fine.  Cheers from Abu
Sammy.

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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: "sattar.izwaini at stud.umist.ac.uk"
Subject:Arabizing Windows 98 response

Hi
Windows 98 can be of two kinds for Arabic. The first is totally
Arabicized (with menus and online help in Arabic). The second is
'Arabic Enabled' which has menus in English, but it can process
Arabic texts and deals with text direction (right to left). Both can be
used for English texts of course. The second one is handy and
straight forward.
Now, what Windows do you have? Does it process Arabic?, i.e.
Are you able to see the text on the monitor and you can print it? if
yes, what is the problem?

Sattar

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:22 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:22 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs Spanish or French Learners of Arabic
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: "Mohammad.T.Alhawary-1" <malhawary at ou.edu>
Subject:Needs Spanish or French Learners of Arabic

Dear Colleagues:

I was wondering if you have students who are adult native speakers of
Spanish and/or French learning Arabic as a foreign language.  I need to
conduct a brief research study on such learners over.  I will be
willing to travel to Mexico, Spain and France to complete the study.
Your help will be much appreciated and acknowledged.  Please respond to
me directly.

Regards,
Mohammad T. Alhawary

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:25 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:25 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Temple University Job
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: John Means <means at temple.edu>
Subject:Temple University Job

Instructor of Arabic - Temple University - Fall 2003
The Center for Critical Languages at Temple University invites
applications
for instructor of Arabic, to begin September. 2003 with a one-year
contract
renewable upon review, pending budgetary approval.  Candidates must
possess
native or near-native command of Arabic.  Graduate study beyond the M.A.
degree is expected.  Salary and rank will be based on academic
qualifications
and professional experience.  Candidates must provide evidence of
commitment
and established ability to teach Modern Standard Arabic at elementary
through
advanced levels, with graduate degree(s) and scholarly interests in
second
language acquisition, applied linguistics, language pedagogy, or related
fields.
The teaching load is 3/3, and candidates should be able to employ
instructional technologies appropriately.  Experience with
proficiency-based
teaching at the college level is desirable.
Applications should include a curriculum vitae, statement of teaching
philosophy and methods, and graduate transcripts. All correspondence,
including three recommendation letters sent directly from the referees,
should
be addressed to:
      Director, Critical Languages
      Anderson Hall, 022-38
      Temple University
      Philadelphia, PA 19122-6090
Temple University is an Affirmative Action / Equal Opportunity Employer.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:38 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:OCR for Arabic transcription response
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:OCR for Arabic transcription response

I doubt very much that you are going to find an Arabic OCR that
will support the Latin transcription alphabet for Arabic. Sakhr's
Automatic Reader Pro version 6.0 is multilingual and trainable.
You may want to look into it.

Languages supported: Arabic, Farsi, French, English, Czech,
Danish, Dutch, Finnish, German, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian,
and Turkish. For more information:

http://www.aramedia.com/ocroffice.htm

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:34 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:34 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs refs on NP in Arabic and Portuguese
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Jacyra Magalh?es  <jacmag at rdc.puc-rio.br>
Subject:Needs refs on NP in Arabic and Portuguese

 From Moderator:
Jacyra is not a list member.  She is an MA student with a topic on the  
Noun Phrase, including the Idaafa, in Arabic and Portuguese.  If anyone  
would like to supply her with relevant references, please respond  
directly to her at the above address.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:18:30 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:30 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists responses
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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From:Tim Buckwalter <ArabicLexicons at aol.com>
Subject:Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists response

I think the best concise introduction to Arabic linguistics is Mary  
Catherine Bateson's "Arabic Language Handbook" (1967). If you need  
something extremely concise, Charles Ferguson's article "Arabic  
Language" in the old Encyclopedia Britannica (the one right before the  
1974 edition) packs a ton of information in just two or three pages.

Best,
Tim Buckwalter

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Date:  13 Dec 2002
From: Benjamin Troutman <bentroutman at yahoo.com>
Subject:Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists response

Consult?Clive Holes' Modern Arabic: Structures, Functions and Varieties  
(Longman Linguistics Library, 1995, ISBN: 0582258820).? It describes  
Modern Arabic and many of its variations quite meticulously using  
advanced linguistic terminology.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Dec 14 00:31:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:31:38 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Browsing on Mac OS X
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Date:  05 Dec 2002
From: Michael Fishbein <fishbein at humnet.ucla.edu>
Subject:Arabic Browsing on Mac OS X

A question about Arabic browsers for OS X. Knut Vik?r, at his Arabic
Mac Website (http://www.hf-fak.uib.no/i/smi/ksv/arabnet.html), says
that Netscape 7 works as an Arabic browser. Following his advice, and
also realizing that Apple is phasing out System 9, I asked our
university  technicians to install Netscape 7 (and Mozilla for good
measure) on their OS X machines and then try to read the Arabic page
of the BBC's World Service (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/arabic/) . Both
browsers managed to read the Arabic as Arabic, but there were serious
rendering problems. Any completely disjunct letter (e.g. a
nonconnector after another nonconnector or after a word break, or any
final letter after a nonconnector) came out smaller in size and
lighter in color. The problem occurred on the screen and in printing.
The result was text that, while it was readable, looked very strange.
Interline spacing, too, was not correct in some layouts. With these
defects or bugs, Netscape 7 in its present state is not a
satisfactory Arabic browser for OS X. Exactly the same problems
occurred in Mozilla.

We were unable to determine why the problem occurred. The individual
glyphs for the disjunct letters in the font itself (Lucida Grande, a
unicode font) did not seem to be at fault: they were neither light
nor small. Something else is causing the difficulty. Whether it is
due to Netscape (or Mozilla -- both use the same rendering engine) or
is due to a bug in System X, we don't know. Anyone have any idea?

The OS X machines on which we did the experiment did not have Arabic
language resources installed under System 9.2. I wonder whether this
had anything to do with the problem. Has anyone out there tried the
same experiment with Netscape 7 on a machine with OS 9's Arabic
resources installed, either running only OS 9.2, or running an OS 9
box within System X?

We tried tinkering with every conceivable preference, to no avail.

Alas, iCab, which works so nicely as an Arabic-enabled browser under
System 8.6 and 9.x, seems to have lost its ability to handle Arabic
in its OS X version.

As for Internet Explorer, which works beautifully for Arabic under
Windows, its Mac version does not as far as I know support Arabic.

The question has practical implications for Mac users, as Apple is
shipping all new computers with OS X. Unless we can use a new Mac for
Arabic word processing and accessing the web, we may -- perish the
thought -- have to go over to Windows machines.

--
Michael Fishbein, Undergraduate Advisor
Department of Near Eastern Languages and Cultures
UCLA

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:28 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:28 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:The Poetics of Pomegranates (Call for Poems)
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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: SadokM at aol.com
Subject:The Poetics of Pomegranates (Call for poems)

Oded Halahmy Foundation for Art would like to put together and publish a
poetry book in English on pomegranates. The title of the book would be
Modern
Poetry/Modern Sculpture, with an introduction to be written by an art
historian. My own sculpture focuses a lot in pomegranates. My work has
been
exibited in musuems in the  USA and Europe. I would like contributors to
submit up to 5 poems about their experiences with pomegrantes for
consideration.
Oded Halhamy 141 Prince street Fifth Floor New York, NY 10012, Fax
(212-477-4535.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:33 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:33 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:More on Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists
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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: Maher Awad <awadm at sas.upenn.edu>
Subject: Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists

A very decent short overview chapter is:  "Arabic," by Alan
Kaye, in _The World's Major Languages_, edited by Bernard
Comrie, Oxford Univ. Press, 1990, pp. 664-685.

One of the best books is:  Clive Holes' _Modern Arabic:
Structures, Functions and Varieties_, Longman, 1995.  It's
out of print, but you can find it in major libraries.

Maher Awad
University of Pennsylvania

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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: Gail Grella <GRELLAG1 at georgetown.edu>
Subject: Short Intro to Arabic for Linguists:bringing them back into
print

Both the Bateson and Holes books are out of print, but Georgetown
University Press will be reissuing them as part of Georgetown Classics
in Arabic Language and Linguistics series.  Bateson's "Arabic Language
Handbook" will be available in April 2003, ISBN 0-87840-386-8, $22.50.
Holes'  "Modern Arabic: Structures, Functions and Varieties" will come
out in a revised edition in Fall 2004.

Gail Grella
Associate Director, Georgetown University Press
Acquisitions Editor
3240 Prospect Street NW
Washington, DC  20007
Phone:  202-687-6263
FAX: 202-687-6340

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:36 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:36 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Textbooks history response
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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: "Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:Arabic Textbooks history response

       Even more interesting is the question of the evolution of
EI (Enclyclopaedia of Islam, Leiden) from edition 1 (in the 20's and
30's [??]) to the presently ongoing EI 2.  The second is clearly
much more irEnic (="non-confrontational"); but how much solid
orientalist scholarship has been lost?  (Have there been any new
archeological discoveries since then that concern the early generations
of Islam? New "theories" concerning the history of those times?? etc.)
      Best wishes,
                                         Mike Schub

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:39 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:39 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Inchoativity in Tunisian Arabic query
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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: cristiantudor at hotmail.com
Subject:Inchoativity in Tunisian Arabic query

cristiantudor at hotmail.com
?
Please respond directly to email address.? Thanks :)
?
Hello
My name is Cristian Tudor and i am a romanian student student learning  
arabic in University of Bucharest . After spending 2 years in Tunisia  
and Bourguiba School with a scholarship that i had obtained from the  
romanian and tunisian gov in collaboration , now i am back in romania  
and i must write a study about the Inchoativity in tunisian-arabic . I  
have some materials but i need some theoretic things about modalization  
, tense and aspect in MSA (fusha) . Please if you are kind , can you  
point for me some materials , something that i can use ?? I heard about  
a work : Modality, Mood and Aspect in Spoken Arabic
Mitchell, T.F. and El-Hassan, Shahir
Do you have a clue , something else about this sector from arabic ?  
Please help me !
Best regards
Cristian

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:21:22 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:More on Translation Programs
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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: J Murgida <jmurg at ttlc.net>
Subject:More on Translation Programs

Hi Everyone,
There was a session on Arabic translation at the American Translators
Association conference in Atlanta, Georgia, last month. It included
presentations on dictionaries for translators, Arabic translation memory
software, and how to learn to translate Arabic>English.

I'm the one who talked about learning/studying A-E translation. Sattar
is
correct in that there is no certificate program, or translation degree
in
North America that offers Arabic<>English, as far as I know. There are
courses at various universities, however. The list I prepared for the
conference is below, with the addition of information just received on
the
U. Penn course.

At the ATA session someone from Brigham Young University said that
there are
such courses there, but I don't have the details. I hope one of our BYU
colleagues will post them.

Also, Georgetown U. is considering expanding the current one-course
offering
to a three-course sequence, and possibly a certificate, in
Arabic-into-English translation. I believe they are hoping to start
that in
the Fall 2003.

Anyone interested in joining a listserve devoted to Translation &
Interpretation of Middle East Languages (time-l), please contact:
Timothy
Gregory [tarjema at hotmail.com]; translators present at the conference
formed
an informal group and started this list. While it's open to discussion
of
other languages, so far we've been discussing Arabic.

I welcome additions to the list of courses. I know that the U. of
Arkansas
as some kind of literary translation program but don't have any details.

Best regards,
Jackie Murgida
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Arabic-English university translation courses in the U.S.

U. of Minnesota:
The Program in Translation and Interpreting (PTI) at the University of
Minnesota is planning an Arabic section of our introductory course in
translation during the spring 2003 semester, provided that there are a
minimum of four students interested in the course. Also, an intensive
two to
three week long course in intermediate level Arabic/English translation
is
scheduled for May Session, 2003. Interested individuals may e-mail us at
pti at umn.edu or send requests for information to:
	Program in Translation and Interpreting
	University of Minnesota
	ILES
	214 Nolte Center
	315 Pillsbury Drive S.E.
	Minneapolis, MN  55414

Georgetown University, Washington, D.C.
Currently offers a one-semester Arabic-into-English translation
workshop.
For information contact:

Brian McGrath
Dept. of Arabic Language, Literature and Linguistics
Georgetown University
37th & 'O' Sts., NW
ICC 306-F
P.O. Box 571046
Washington, DC  20057-1046
Phone:  202-687-5743
Fax:  202-687-2408
E-mail:  mcgrathb at georgetown.edu

This class will be offered on Wednesdays from 6:15-8:45 PM in ICC 208A,
beginning January 8, 2003.  The course is 3 credits.  To enroll,
students
should contact the Registrar's Office at:
202-687-4020.

University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia
[Information from Roger Allen about his seminar. I have heard that it is
very interesting and useful]:
My seminar is for PhD students and is concerned with translation of
literary
texts.  It begins with a heavy dose of translation theory, and then
proceeds
in
two-week sequences, via an initial analysis of works in specific
literary
genres that have been translated at least three times into English, to
actual
translation of a work in the same genre by the students.   The resulting
translated texts are circulated anonymously among the class (including,
at
times, my own!), and then discussed.  Because of the time factor, I
select
SHORT literary genres for analysis and then translation: the segments
are
modern poetry, modern short story, early poetry (mostly in the form of
the "qit`ah"), and short plays.  However, the semester/seminar project
with
which the course concludes is an extended work of translation.

   I offer the seminar whenever there is a large enough cohort of
graduate
students who have not taken it before (and who ask for it).
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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: Dil Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:BYU Clarification

BYU has had a fairly full blown Spanish English translation program for
some time (including courses on instantaneous translation).
Unfortunately, we don't have courses on Arabic-English (or Arabic
anything) translation. We have a pretty basic three year program (+ a
few miscellaneous courses) which can lead to a minor in Arabic, or
which can be combined with area studies courses for a Middle East
Studies-Arabic major.  Our three claims to fame, so to speak, are: 1)
An Islamic Translation Series of publications (possibly the source of
the notion that we have a translation program), which has been
producing some fine bilingual editions of works by Islamic
philosophers;  2) a fairly consistent, every other year, study abroad
program that takes students who have had two years of Arabic to the
Middle East for a semester; and 3) a summer intensive program where
students can do either first year or second year during a summer term.
Translation courses?  yaa reet!
By the way, thanks, Jackie, for compiling this useful information.
Dil

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:48 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:More on Arabizing Windows 98
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1) Subject:Arabizing Windows 98
2) Subject:Arabizing Windows 98 (AD)
3) Subject:Arabizing Windows 98--Diacritics query


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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: enm at umich.edu
Subject:Arabizing Windows 98

Paul Roochnik gave the following response to the problem of Arabizing  
Windows 98:

> Gaye Price asked about doing Arabic on a PC with Win98.  To the best of
> my knowledge, you must install the Arabic-enabled version of Windows   
> 98.
> After that, you should install the Arabic-enabled version of MS   
> Office.
> That is the platform on which I worked for 4 years and it  served my
> Arabic processing needs quite well.  Now I am using Win2k-Pro  which
> requires no Arabization.  Either way is fine.  Cheers from Abu  Sammy.

I had the same problem with Windows 98, and eventually decided on  
another solution: I bought Windows Office 2000; this alone can print  
out Arabic as well as English--and other language scripts.  To be fully  
truthful, I had to buy a new computer to be able to accommodate the  
larger software.  I later downloaded free from Microsoft the file Ariel  
Unicode MS which contains just about every language font you could want.

Good luck.
Ernest McCarus

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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:Arabizing Windows 98 (AD)

I have few suggestions that are commercially
available at the AramediA Website www.aramedia.com

1- MS Windows 2000 is multilingual and available along with MS Arabic
Word 2000 or Office 2000. This is the Arabic version, meaning the
SpellChecker is included also. The above is also valid for XP too.

2- Get MS Arabic Windows 98 Upgrading the English version and
MS Arabic Word 2000 or 2002. All of MS Arabic software is bilingual
(English and Arabic):

http://www.aramedia.com/mshome.htm

3- Universal Word 2000 ML-1 Arabic Languages/English Word Processor.
You may cut and paste Arabic text into MS English Word, or compose
both texts (English and Arabic) on the same page with UW 2000, it is
also UNICODE compliant.

ML1, Arabic Languages: Arabic, Azeri-Arabic, English,
Farsi, Malay-Jawi, Pashto, Urdu, Transliteration, Int'l Phonetic.

UW 2000 will work with your English or any Windows, it does not
require an Arabic Operating System like MS Arabic Windows,
download a free Demo:

http://www.aramedia.com/uniword.htm
http://aramedia.com/uniform2000.htm

Arabic/English PS-2 Keyboard is available.
Arabic/English Keyboard Stickers for either Laptop
or Desktop are available also:

http://www.aramedia.com/keyboard-ar.htm
http://aramedia.com/stickers.htm

Please contact me, if you have any questions.

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak??
T 617 825-3044 F 617 265-9648
http://www.arbicsoftware.net
http://www.eislamicsoftware.com

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3)
Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: Aman Attieh <attieh at rice.edu>
Subject:Arabizing Windows 98--Diacritics query

Following  William Kopycki's suggestions, we successfully tested  
Windows XP and multilingual Office XP, with Arabic (Saudi Arabia) -  
Arabic 102 and we cleared all problems concerning direction of numbers,  
fraction of the numbers, and insertion of words. However we are still  
dissatisfied with the behavior of diacritics.

I am at a quandary that at this time and age the diacritics of Arabic  
fonts for Windows are substandard for instructional purposes if our  
target population are beginners

The Times Roman and Arabic Transparent:  These are the same font with  
two different designations.  Examples of confusion to the novice is  
that the sukuun, when displayed by a letter, is so close to the dots  
particularly the "nuun", while the "kasrah" joins the dot of the "baa".  
The  situation  worsens when using smaller size fonts especially in   
placing a " fatHah" or a "Dammah" on top of the "shaddah" where the two  
symbols become fused, and the resultant of this hybrid are unknown  
symbols in Arab grammar .

The Simplified Arabic is the other extreme where the diacritics are  
placed far away from the letters so much so that sometimes the "kasrah"  
in a given line looks like a "fatHah" on a letter in the subsequent  
line.

The Simplified Arabic does not have any diacritics, and the Andalus  
style is not suitable for beginners.

Does someone have a solution to this diacritics problem on Windows?

I am wondering if the MAC (OS X) fonts display such problems of lack of  
clarity as described above. Also can anyone address the differences in  
clarity between diacritics typed on Windows XP or MAC OS X?

I appreciate any help in this regard.
Aman Attieh, Ph.D.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:44 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:44 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:What is a bilingual?
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1) Subject:What is a bilingual?

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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From: dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:What is a bilingual?

>  true native-like fluency -- thinking and dreaming in Arabic, and
> reading and writing Arabic with  the same facility as his or her
> native language. I would like to think it is possible, but I have
> never heard of anyone succeeding. Would you say that you are truly
> bilingual, functioning identically in Arabic and English?

The problem here is with definitions.  What does it mean to be truly
bilingual?  That one
speaks a language with exactly the same facility as a native speaker?
That
may not be
possible.  But the appearance of it is.  Which to my way of thinking is
nearly
the same
thing.  I myself am aware of the limits of of my abilities of
expression, but
no-one else
seems to be.  There are, for instance, idiomatic expressions that I
recognize
but do not
use.  And I am always encountering new and unfamiliar ones.  But they
does not
show in
my speech.  I do  come up with non-native construction now and then,
usually
when I have
been speaking much English, or when entering an unfamiliar field of
discussion.  Then I
encounter interference from English and sometimes Spanish.

But I also experience interference from Arabic when I speak English.  I
think
this is the
true sign of a bilingual.

A simple example, I once found myself saying in English "I am afraid
from"
(xaayif min)
rather than "I am afraid of" .  The same sort of thing happens to me on
a
regular basis.  A
curious problem I have encountered in almost all Arabic speakers of
English is
a
confusion with deixis  they say "that" when we would say "this", and
vice
versa, e.g.,
"That's a nice day."  I myself can fall into that specific type of
error.  It
can be a bit
distressing.  Often in English conversation I can retrieve an Arabic
word more
readily
that an English one I have know for most of my life.  This causes great
amusement
amongst my Arabic-speaking colleagues.  (I have also been mistaken for
a very
skilled
non-native speaker of English).

So, yes I do think -  and dream  - in Arabic.

I can read some types of Arabic texts with much greater facility than
even
well educated
native speakers.  To me, for instance, the Quran is truly couched in
clear
Arabic.  For
many native speakers it is not quite so clear.  I am not even sure why
that
should be.
Maybe it is precisely because they are not always trained in the use of
dictionaries, and
so the archaic language is a bit more opaque.

Where does my near native facility show at its weakest?  In reading
aloud, and
in writing.

I lay that to the relative lack of emphasis placed on either in the
university
Arabic
curriculum.

But I can certainly write a memo or a letter in Arabic.

And I can and have given extemporaneous speeches in formal Arabic.

In Egypt, anyway, it is a class marker for one not to be terribly
proficient
in producing
written Arabic.  I just got through giving a tutorial to a translator
from
Oman whose
proficiency in written Arabic was about that of mine.  She is typical of
upper-middle
class Egyptians in that regard:  her educational emphasis was on
European
languages - she
didn't pay too much attention to her written Arabic.  But she acquired
it over
her entire
16 years of schooling, with the result that she was good enough to work
as a
translator
(and a translators must be very good).  I acquired mine in about the
same
time, only eight
of which were in formal schooling.   So, I am like an educated
upper-middle
class
Egyptian, and evidently some Omanis.

This raises some difficulties when we begin to talk about near-native
proficiency.
Proficiency to do what?  (to quote a paper by the moderator of this
list).

David Wilmsen

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Dec 18 15:18:19 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:18:19 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Bookstore in NYC (AD)
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1) Subject:Arabic Bookstore in NYC (AD)

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Date:  18 Dec 2002
From:DAHESHBOOKS at aol.com
Subject:Arabic Bookstore in NYC (AD)

Are you Looking for a bookstore to purchase Arabic dictionary,
textbooks, literature, history and poetry. Dahesh Heritage, Fine Books
is the answer. Just call 1-800-799-6375
Mike Masri

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:47:48 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:47:48 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:On-line Arabic Courses (AD)
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1) Subject:On-line Arabic Courses (AD)

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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Walid Farhoud <walid at dalilusa.com>
Subject:On-line Arabic Courses (AD)

It is a great pleasure to introduce the Arabic Courses on line.
You may find three Intensive course as follows:
1) Standard Classical Arabic Course which includes 32 Lessons in Arabic
structure, grammar and writing.
	this course provides the student with the essential tools of Arabic
grammar, derivation and syntax.
2) Classical Arabic Reader which covers the application of the Standard
Classical Arabic Course in practical
	manner by using 36 modern literature pieces from both modern and
traditional writings, poetry and media.
3) Colloquial Arabic Course which covers the four major dialects of
Eastern,
Gulf, Egypt and Morocco. The course
	covers 18 lessons covering daily interactions in the street, school,
travel
etc...
	Eastern (Levanntine) Colloquial Arabic is available at the present
time.

Each course is supported by excercises and Lesson Support. Sound track
was
used for correct pronounciation and
a clear Arabic font with colors were used to facilitate easy reading and
writing.

Please review the courses on www.dalilusa.com. There are individual
application process and group applicatio

Walid B. Farhoud
Middle East International Services
4500- 9th Avenue NE, Suite #300
Seattle, Washington 98105
USA
Phone: (206) 633-6057 (office)
Mobile:(206) 941-9090
Fax: (206) 633-6058
walid at dalilusa.com
www.dalilusa.com

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:47:53 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:47:53 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Etymology of 'mosque' query
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1) Subject:Etymology of 'mosque' query

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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: BearMeiser at aol.com
Subject:Etymology of 'mosque' query

Does anyone know what can be said about and what is known for certain  
about the etymology of the word "mosque"? I think it has always been  
understood to be from the word "masjid," which is what the OED says.  
However, the following e-mail seems to be circulating in some Muslim  
circles, telling people that "mosque" has an entirely different origin  
from what we have been taught, though I strongly suspect that that is a  
mere folk etymology. The e-mail says:

PLS CALL OUR MASJID "MASJID"! Not MOSQUE!!!

As-salaam alaikum all my dear? friends,

Please read this and pass it on to any Muslims, as much as? you can. It  
is a vital and important information. Muslims should now refrain from  
using the term "Mosque". I was flipping through this book the other day  
called "THE COMPLETE IDIOT'S GUIDE TO UNDERSTANDING ISLAM" (hehe, they  
call themselves idiots) and it is filled with fun facts. Some stuff I  
didn't even know. One of them concerns the term "mosque." So many of us  
think that this is the English translation of masjid. I'm sure none of  
us ever wondered how this term came into being when it really had  
little in common with how it sounded compared to 'masjid'. (We were  
small when we were taught this English word. Our mind then were not  
critical & analytical, so didn't dare to ask/challenge our teachers,  
right?). Anyway this book pointed out that the term 'mosque' is derived  
from the Spanish word for "mosquito." It was termed as such because  
during the Crusades, King Ferdinand (or someone.. I forgot exactly whom  
it was) said they were gonna go and swat the muslims "like mosquitos".  
(Where else can they find Muslims in large number to be swatted if not  
in a masjid?). So, they cheekily termed masjid as 'mosque'.
So dear Muslim brothers and sisters, refrain from using this term which  
is obviously a disgusting slap in the face to the Ummah. Educate our  
brothers and sisters to the history and etymology of this word. And let  
us replace it with the word which is MEANT to be used: Masjid! The  
Place of Prostration!! Not Mosque: the place to be swatted! If any of  
you have doubts about this, then please go look for the book and read  
it.


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:47:56 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:47:56 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Needs advice on English to Arabic translation
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1) Subject:Needs advice on English to Arabic translation

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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: "wa'el Al-Qara'n" <wqaran at birzeit.edu>
Subject:Needs advice on English to Arabic translation

[moderator's note: Wa'el received a degree in physics several years ago
and has been teaching at Bir Zeit for several years.  He sent us the
following query which I thought I would post.  If any of you have
advice for Wa'el, please send it directly to him at the address
above.---Dil]

I do not know if you still remember me. I graduated with a PH.D. in
Physics way back in 1993. I was involved with the Arabic Club. The last
time
I was at BYU was back in the summer of 1998. I did research with my
advisor,
Dr. Larry Knight.
Anyway, I have been working in the Physics Department at Birzeit
University since 1994. I have recently began to get interested in
translating books from English to Arabic. This started when I wanted to
help
my students understand the material better by offering them the chance
to
read it in Arabic. All the books we use are in English, and our students
tend to suffer sometimes because of that.
This led me to another field. Most of the books I read are in English.
Many people in this part of the world do not have the capacity to read
books
in English, even college educated people. I think this is a shame.
Books can
bring people together, by helping them see what there really is on the
other
side.
I would like to translate books, but I do not have a good idea of where
I
can start. Do you have any ideas?

sincerely
wael karain

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:00 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:00 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:NSA Arabic Linguist jobs
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1) Subject:NSA Arabic Linguist jobs

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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: "Jensen, Patricia V." <pvjense at nsa.gov>
Subject:NSA Arabic Linguist jobs

We currently have Arabic Linguist positions open with the National
Security Agency located in Ft. Meade, Maryland.

NSA is seeking individuals who have native to near-native ability for a
permanent, full-time assignment.  If you are not currently on the
market but
know someone who is, please pass along my contact information to them,
or if
you provide me their contact information I would be happy to get in
touch
with them.

If you are currently on the market, the Language Community offers two
employment opportunities, dependent upon level of experience and
determined
by the hiring department.  The first opportunity, also referred to as a
developmental program, begins with a 3-year skills development program.
During these 3 years, you will have the opportunity to work in various
offices throughout the NSA Language Department to develop translation/
transcription skills. The second opportunity puts the individual
directly
into a designated department rather than the developmental program. Both
opportunities include on-the-job training, mentoring, and formal
classroom
instruction.

For illustration purposes, the salary (based on 2002 figures) for a
Bachelors degree and no
related work experience is GG07-1 ($31,397 per annum). The salary for a
Masters degree and no related work experience is GG09-1 ($38,406 per
annum).
Individuals with a PhD and no related work experience would earn a
starting
salary of GG11-1 ($46,469 per annum). Any related work experience would
qualify for additional pay.  Additional information on salary can be
requested during the phone screening.

If this sounds of interest to you, please contact me at 866-672-4473
between
8:30 am and 2 pm EST. I will conduct a brief screening interview with
you
which takes approximately 20 minutes.

Please note that employment with the National Security Agency is
governed by
Public Law
and requires that initial and continued employment with the Agency and
access to classified information, shall be clearly consistent with the
national security. The law prescribes further that employment in the
Agency
shall be contingent upon completion of a full field investigation and
clearance for access to classified information.

To meet the statutory national security standard, the NSA maintains
special
employment criteria and prescribes certain conditions of employment
which
may exceed those of other Government organizations which do not have the
highly sensitive mission related responsibility borne by the Agency. The
special criteria and conditions include, in
addition to others prescribed by Executive Order and Department of
Defense
regulations, the following:

With limited exceptions, both the applicant and the members of his or
her
immediate family shall be United States citizens. For these purposes,
"immediate family" is defined as including the individual's spouse or
significant other, parents, brothers, sisters, and children.

Should you have immediate family members who are non-U.S. citizens, the
hiring department may waive this requirement.  There are a number of
factors
that go into making such a decision so please contact me for more
information (should you be interested in pursuing employment with NSA).

Thank you for your possible interest in employment with the National
Security Agency. I hope to hear from you soon.
--
Patricia Jensen
Arabic Linguist Recruiter
National Security Agency

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:06 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:06 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:AUB Summer Arabic Program 2003
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Aliya Saidi <as33 at aub.edu.lb>
Subject:AUB Summer Arabic Program 2003

AUB Summer Arabic Program 2003

The Center for Arab and Middle Eastern Studies at the American  
University of Beirut is organizing an intensive Arabic language program  
to be held on the campus of AUB. Students may earn 9 credit hours of  
Arabic instruction, which are transferable to US universities.

The program offers Arabic courses at five different levels:  
Introductory, High Introductory, Intermediate, High Intermediate and  
Advanced. Each level provides a six-week total immersion into the  
Arabic language that consists of 20 hours a week of intensive classroom  
instruction and an additional 2.5 hours a week of Colloquial Arabic in  
the Lebanese dialect. The program combines classroom instruction with  
cultural field trips within Beirut and around Lebanon.

Applications are available online (www.aub.edu.lb/cames).

Application deadline: March 14, 2003

Program dates: June 23 - August 1, 2003

Fees: $3,469 - $3,726
- Tuition for Modern Standard Arabic: $2,535
- Tuition for Colloquial Arabic: $375
- Accommodation on AUB campus: $410 shared / $667 private
- Health Insurance: $117
- Internet Usage: $20
- Sports Facilities Usage: $12

?

For more information contact:

Center for Arab and Middle Eastern Studies,
American University of Beirut,
P.O. Box 11-0236,
Beirut, Lebanon
+961-1-35000, ext. 3845

cames at aub.edu.lb?
www.aub.edu.lb/cames

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:09 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Bard College Job
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Hezi Brosh <brosh at bard.edu>
Subject:Bard College Job

Bard College seeks applications for a half-time visiting position in the
program of Arabic Language and Literature beginning in September of
2003.  The successful candidate will contribute to an established
program in Arabic and must have native or near native proficiency in
Arabic, a record of success in teaching Modern Standard Arabic from
elementary to advanced levels, and the ability to conduct
advanced classes both in Arabic and in English. Research specialization
is open and could include history of the Middle East, Arabic philosophy
Arabic literature or the civilization of the Arab world.  Familiarity
with the use of new media in the classroom and with the important issues
of teaching Arabic as a foreign language is an advantage. Application
deadline is January 31, 2003. Curriculum Vitae, cover
letter and three letters of recommendation should be sent to: Chair,
Arabic Search Committee, c/o Human Resources, Bard College, P.O. Box
5000, Annandale-on-Hudson, NY 12504.  AA/EOE

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:03 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Bowne Global Solutions Jobs
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From:DC Interpreter Resumes <interpreterresumes at bowneglobal.com>
Subject:Bowne Global Solutions Jobs

Bowne Global Solutions, Interpretation Services is currently seeking  
bilingual individuals who are fluent in both English and another  
language.

?Where and when would interpreters work?? Interpreters may be offered  
assignments in a number of different settings including court  
hearings.? Most of the assignments occur during normal business hours,  
Monday through Friday between 8:00am and 5:00pm.

Who is eligible?? Candidates must be U.S. citizens or permanent  
residents.

On what basis do interpreters work for us??? Bowne interpreters work  
and are paid as independent contractors, therefore the number of  
assignments offered depends on the need for each language.

We are currently recruiting Arabic interpreters for the following areas:

Connecticut:

New York City and New Jersey:

Philadelphia, PA

New Orleans, LA

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:14 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:ARCE deadline extended
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1)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Carolyn Tomaselli <ctomase at emory.edu>
Subject:ARCE deadline extended

The American Research Center in Egypt (ARCE) is extending its fellowship
application deadline from January 5 to January 15 to give those of you
who
are interested in applying the chance to do so.  Please call on or after
January 2 if you have any questions.  We look forward to receiving your
applications.

Please visit the ARCE website to download our fellowship application,
www.arce.org.

American Research Center in Egypt
Emory University Briarcliff Campus
1256 Briarcliff Road, NE
Building A, Suite 423W
Atlanta, GA 30306
Phone:	(404) 712-9854
Fax:	(404) 712-9849
Email:	arce at emory.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:20 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:20 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:What is a bilingual?
Message-ID: <MON.30.DEC.2002.154820.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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1) Subject:What is a bilingual?
2) Subject:Bilingualism
3) Subject:Proficiency Standards Beyond the Native Speaker

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1)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Mona Diab <mdiab at umiacs.umd.edu>
Subject:What is a bilingual?

Salam everybody,
i actually agree with David it all depends on your definition of native
like? I myself am a bilingual in Egyptian Arabic and English. I was
educated in MSA in Egypt and attended American schools... I am
considered native in both languages in terms of linguistic judgements
and
I am in a linguistics department. I have lived half of my life in
English speaking countries and the other
half in Egypt. I read, write, think and dream, use idioms and metaphors,
you name it, in both languages (I don't dream in MSA though maybe
sometimes reciting some quran but never really
MSA). I am currently in France and I speak some French and I paid
attention to the kind of mistakes I make in French and they seem to
pattern with bot Egyptian Arabic and English...
SO my point is there are true bilinguals but maybe access to
linguistic information is contextualised, depending on the situation or
context...
Just my $0.02
Cheers
Mona Diab

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2)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Nimat Hafez Barazangi <nhb2 at cornell.edu>
Subject:Bilingualism

If you look at bilingualism from a cognitive point of view, then it
becomes simpler to assess the "true level" if its facility.

The issue is not only to speak in the same level of the "native
speaker," but mainly to be able to perform the same cognitive processes
almost equally well in the two languages.

When I was raising my daughter to be a bilingual, that was my
criterion, but in separate environments; inside the home and outside
the home.

  I think I managed, to a certain extent, to provide the morphological
and syntactical structures as well as exposure to a vocabulary-rich
envo. in both English and Arabic in parallel to each other. By
providing her with the opportunity to hear, speak, read, and write both
at the same level from early childhood, she grew up able to function in
both languages well, and without mixing words, as we learners of FL
often do.   She is able to understand, comprehend, analyze, critique,
joke, etc. in both languages, equally well.  She tells me that she
dreams in Arabic when dreaming of us, her parents, or relatives. The
only problem is that now, with little time to read in Arabic, and by
being outside the home envo., she is not gaining enough new vocabulary
to keep up with comprehending the more recent and more complicated
cognitive processes within the Arabic environment.

Nimat  Hafez Barazangi

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2)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Ola Moshref <Ola.Moshref at zu.ac.ae>
Subject: Proficiency Standards Beyond the Native Speaker

What/Who are the standards for proficiency in a language?

All the arguments or examples Dr. Wilmsen used seem to put native
speakers as the standard, by comparing his performance in speaking and
writing to theirs and feeling satisfied that with their poor Arabic
education he may even outstand their "educated upper class elite".

Because a lot of what he said was true, and hurting, it made me
reflect.

Since we do not only speak of the proficiency of non-natives in a
foreign language, but natives themselves are also rated in their
proficiency of the language they formally speak and write, then why do
we talk of natives as a model for proficiency?

I know this may lead us to philosophic talk about language not being
independent of the people who produce and comprehend it. I agree,
because blood is functionless without a being, and the being cannot
dispense with blood.

We Arabs are nowadays anaemic, nevertheless, this does not change the
facts about a healthy person's blood picture. Likewise, language must
have standards on its own premises for proficiency. I realize that many
factors will produce continuous alterations in this picture, but these
should be acknowledged only through updating the grammar of this
language.

Ola Moshref

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:28 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L PEDA:Needs English for Special Purposes Materials for
 Arabic Speakers
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Elizabeth Bergman <embergman at earthlink.net>
Subject:Needs English for Special Purposes Materials for Arabic Speakers

I have been asked to locate classroom-ready ESP teaching materials.
This is
not my area of particular interest, but has landed on my desk because
the
learners are speakers of Arabic.

The materials are in specific
technical areas.  They are (1) radar, (2) telecommunications, (3) air
traffic
control, (4) computer hardware, and (5) computer software.

If you can suggest textbooks in any of these areas or have developed
materials
for classroom use that you would be willing to share (compensation to be
negotiated), please contact me off-list.

Many thanks in advance and best wishes for the holidays,

Elizabeth M. Bergman

embergman at earthlink.net

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:24 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:24 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:al-aqrab bi-l-aqrab query
Message-ID: <MON.30.DEC.2002.154824.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: decaen at chass.utoronto.ca (Vincent DeCaen)
Subject:al-aqrab bi-l-aqrab query

dear friends,

was wondering if anyone could spot the correct sense for the following
phrase:   al-aqrab bi-l-aqrab

the sense seems to be islamic/rabbinic legalistic: perhaps something to
do
with inheritance. i'm not sure what the preposition bi- is doing there
either, unless it's a persianism....

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:31 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:31 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs Quran Study software
Message-ID: <MON.30.DEC.2002.154831.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: "Hutton, Rod" <rhutton at trinitylutheranseminary.edu>
Subject:Needs Quran Study software

[please respond directly to requester who is not a member of the list]

Dear Dr. Parkinson,

I was referred to you by a colleague in a quest for software realted to
the
study of the Quran.  In my study of the biblical material, I use a
program
entitled BibleWorks 5.0.  It provides an intensive grammatical analysis
of
every word, entries for every word from several major lexica, a complex
range of grammatical searches and concordance searches.  During my
sabbatical leave I am studying Arabic, to assist in my side-discipline
of
offering a course in Islam.  I am looking for a software program for the
study of the Quran analogous to the program I use for the critical
study of
the Bible.  I raised the issue with my online instructor, and she
referred
me to you in order to pose the question to the Arabic list that you
administer.  Can you indicate how I may join this list to pose the
question,
or do you yourself know of any such programs?  The only ones I've seen
are
simple programs that offer recitations of the Quran or aid in
memorization
of the Quran of offer a commentary and translation of the Quran.  I'm
looking for a grammatically intense program that I would anticipate
would
cost in the area of $200.  Most programs I see out there cost about $50
to
$70, and I doubt they do the job.  Thanks for any assistance you can
provide.
Dr. Rodney R. Hutton
Prof. of Old Testament/Hebrew Scriptures
Trinity Lutheran Seminary
Columbus, OH

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:35 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:35 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Diacritics in Windows
Message-ID: <MON.30.DEC.2002.154835.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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2) Subject:Diacritics in Windows

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1)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Antonio Gim?nez <huesteantigua at yahoo.es>
Subject:Diacritics in Windows

Those of you concerned about diacritics display for educational purposes
might be interested in Microsoft Arabic Typesetting font, designed by  
Mamoun
Sakkal and produced by Microsoft?s Typography Group. It is an OpenType
Unicode-enabled font for Windows 2000/XP supporting Arabic script  
languages
(Arabic, Persian, Ottoman Turkish, Adighe, Baluchi, Berber, Dargwa,  
Ingush,
Kashmiri, Kazakh, Kirghiz, Lahnda, Maghrib Arabic, Old Hausa, Old Malay,
Pashto, Sindhi, Tunisian Arabic, Turkic, Uighur, Urdu), archaic letters
(dotless kaf and ba'), Qur'anic annotations signs, presentation forms,  
and
all major systems of transliteration. You can find further information  
at:

http://www.middleeastmedievalists.org/compute.html (a PDF sample is
available for download)

and:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/developers/volt/volt9.htm

For the time being, Arabic Typesetting is only available as a Microsoft
Visual OpenType Layout Tool (VOLT) supplemental file. It is provided for
illustration only, and may not be altered or redistributed.

I have tested it on Microsoft Windows 2000 and Office 2000. It is a nice
font as you can see on the PDF sample but it seems to be under  
development
and requires a newest version of a certain driver, called usp10.dll,  
which
Microsoft is not distributing yet.

I remember having read that Arabic Typesetting could be distributed in
future versions of Microsoft Office, but cannot confirm it.

Antonio Gim?nez
huesteantigua at yahoo.es

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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From:  GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:Diacritics in Windows

Try Universal Word 2000 word processor. Under the Shift Key, you have
the Harakat and many other nice things. Download the Free Demo at:

http://www.aramedia.com/uniword.htm

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:55 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:55 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Translation programs
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1) Subject:Translation programs in ME Universities
2) Subject:Translation programs at Binghamton
3) Subject:Translation e-mail list

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1)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From:Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject:Translation programs in ME Universities

FWIW, several of the national universities in Saudi Arabia offer BA
programs in translation Arabic <-> multiple TLs.
The oldest and apparently largest program of offerings in different
pairs is at the College of European Languages and Translation (CELT) of
King Saud University in Riyadh (BTW, CELT has an interesting history -
if not a saga - of birth and growth by US-educated Saudis). When I
visited and lectured there in 1991-1991, the CELT program had some
"foreign students" from Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea and Muaritania.
The next largest is at King Abdulaziz U in Jeddah. Probably similar
programs (but fewer students) in translation at King Fahd U. of
Petroleum and Mineral in al-Dhahran.
I understand that the new network (three campuses, may be four by now)
of community colleges in SA include heavy course work in English <->
Arabic translation and may lead to a professional certificate /
academic program transferable to one of the larger universities.
The UAE University in Al-Ain, Abu Dhabi was/is considering an degree
program in English <-> Arabic translation to develop bilingual job
skills in Emiratis who would have dual majors in some technology or
engineering field in which the principal language was English.
Same situation and programs may exist in the impressive multi-campus
Higher Colleges of Technology (HCT) system in UAE. I don't know about
what's in place or planned at Zayed University, American U of Sharjah,
and the other tertiary institutions in UAE and Qatar (which is
reportedly blooming with US-accredited campuses).
Hope this helps. Khair, in sha' Allah.
Regards,
Steve Franke

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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From:Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject:Translation program at Binghamton

You may wish to check with the Translation Research and Instruction
Program
at Binghamton University.  They may offer a Certificate in
Arabic<>English
translation.

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3)
Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: "Timothy A. Gregory" <tgregory at tarjema.com>
Subject: Translation e-mail list

Hey all,

As Jackie Murgida mentioned, one of the results of the Arabic sessions
at
this year's ATA conference was a mailing list for translators and
interpreters of Middle Eastern languages. She gave my hotmail address,
but I
do most of my correspondence through this address
(tgregory at tarjema.com).

Anyone that interested in this topic is welcome to join, you can send
me an
email directly and I'll sign you up, or you can visit
http://www.tarjema.com
and click on the link for mailing lists, then click "Time-L".

I think that we would all love to see this list take off and be active,
so
feel free pass the contact information around so we can get a nice group
together, and one thing I like to see is new members post a short
message
when they join telling a bit about themselves and so on...

Thanks for your interest!

--tag

Timothy A. Gregory            tgregory at tarjema.com
Arabic>English Translator   http://www.tarjema.com
               Tarjema Translations

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Dec 30 22:48:58 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 15:48:58 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Universal Word warning
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Date:  30 Dec 2002
From: Martha Schulte-Nafeh <marthas at u.arizona.edu>
Subject:Universal Word warning

I would like to just forewarn anyone considering buying Universal Word
2000
ML-1. It is not inexpensive and our department invested quite a bit of
money
in multiple copies of it only to find out that it is HIGHLY unstable.
Various actions cause the program to crash. In one two hour period while
trying to create an exam it crashed 20 times! I tried to e-mail the
distributors about this and got no help. If someone out there has had a
better experience with the software, I would love to hear about it. I'd
like
the department to be able to use the software. It does have some nice
features.

peace,
martha

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