From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul  3 22:42:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:42:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Font Restrictions
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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:Elizabeth J. Pyatt <ejp10 at psu.edu>
Subject:Font Restrictions

Hello:

I'm not a lawyer either, so that is why I would NOT modify and
distribute a preexisting font until I checked. You never know which
corporation could be maintaining someone on retainer to sic someone.

Copyright is truly a slippery beast which is why you can change a button
on a dress and not violate copyright, but can't distribute copies of an
out-of-print book without permission.

Anyhow, maybe these links can provides some help for someone

Typeface Protection - <http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/bigelow-
copyright.txt>
Cases involving font copyright -
<http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/legal.html>
Fontographer Support Center -
<http://www.macromedia.com/support/fontographer/>


But not being a lawyer myself I'm not 100% certain of the details. Are
you a lawyer with the required specialization in copyright?  Fair use is
a pretty complex area, not nearly as clear-cut as your remarks make it
sound.  Do you represent Microsoft?  If so I'd check with legal before
pronouncing on copyright law.  I would certainly appreciate correction
by competent legal opinion if I've gotten this all wrong.

Fair use is a wonderful thing, but it can only take you so far, even in
education.

Another view on the issue.

Elizabeth

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul  3 22:42:34 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:42:34 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Segmenter and Tagger for Arabic
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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject:Segmenter and Tagger for Arabic

Hi,
    The latest and greatest lexicon, transformation rules for
the tagger and segmenter and about 19000 words of annotated, segmented,
transliterated Arabic text can be obtained during the next month and a
half at the following URL
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~andyf/segmenter/segment_tag.zip
All of the executables run inside of a DOS window on a windoze machine.

Please report all bugs, difficulties and problems you encounter and I
will
try to deal.

After my signature block is the contents of the file segment_tag.readme
have fun,
andy

1.0 Overview
2.0 Transliteration
3.0 Segmenter
  3.1 Options
  3.2 lexicon files
  3.3 segment bigrams file
4.0 Brill's tagger
  4.1 tagger lexicon
  4.2 adding words from the segmenter
  4.3 perl files for extracting unknown words
  4.4 context file
  4.5 training the tagger


1.0 Overview
    The whole point here is to use Brill's tagger to use the
Transformation-based learning machine learning technique to facilitate
the
acquisition of disambiguation rules for doing part of speech tagging for
Arabic.  The point of doing POS tagging for Arabic is
        1) to build a parser,
        2) to annotate a corpus for doing empirical linguistic
research on Arabic,
        3) to provide electronic linguistic resources for Arabic
and
        4) do content-based text processing in Arabic.

    Brills tagger needs to have a lexicon of lexemes with the
allowable tags for that lexeme in the form shown below:
    squat JJ NN VB
    scrutiny NN
    James NNP
    LSO NNP
    missing VBG JJ NN


    As it turns out the Arabic writing system strings together a lot
of independent items that in English orthography are counted as separate.
The value added here is the word segmenter which is a sort of morphology
recognizer.

    The data flow for the system is shown below.  The transliteration
is necessary for two reasons: 1) Brill's tagger is written for ASCII and
2) there are at least two Arabic character sets in common use.


    Arabic text file --> (transliterator) --> (segmenter) --> (tagger)
--> transliterated tagged Arabic text

    Each piece a can be run independantly of every other piece.so a
more complete picture of the data flow would be
    Arabic text file --> (transliterator) --> transliterated Arabic
text
    transliterated Arabic text --> (segmenter) --> segmented and
transliterated Arabic text
    segmented and transliterated Arabic text --> (tagger) -->
transliterated, segmented and tagged Arabic text

    Neither the segmenter nor the tagger is perfect, so each one of
these phases requires a couple of iterations with hand-correction of the
output and/or augmentation of the lexicons between successive runs before
the output will be correct.
/**********************
        ****    Everything runs inside of a DOS window.
*********

****************************************************************/

2.0 Transliteration
    The executable that performs the transliteration is
"arabic_chars.exe"
The following command line switches are supported.
  -1  : transliterate MS-CP1256 text into DATR transliteration scheme\n
      : parm == Query string for Arabic_u.dtr lexicon\n",
      :        default DATR query ==: <voc>\n",
  -2  : change chars in Freeman transliteration into MS-CP1256 text,
  -3  : change chars in MS-CP1256 into Freeman transliteration scheme
      : parm == n if you don't want to strip the English characters
  -4  : change chars in MS-CP1256 into Buckwalter transliteration scheme
      : parm == n if you don't want to strip the English characters
  -5  : change chars in Buckwalter transliteration into MS-CP1256 text
  -6  : change chars in ISO-8859-6 into Buckwalter transliteration
  -7  : change chars in Buckwalter transliteration into ISO-8859-6 text

  Options -1 through -3 can be ignored and will be removed in a later
revision.  The batch file translit.bat contains the following command
line
for transliteratin cp-1256 into Buckwalter transliteration scheme.
    arabic_chars -4 <%1.txt > %1.trnsl
The input file needs to to have a ".txt" extension and the output file
will be given a ".trnsl" extension.
The following command line will transfer cp-1256 into the MAC version of
iso-8859-6
    arabic_chars -4 <%1.txt | arabic_chars -7 > %1.iso_txt

3.0 Segmenter
    The segmenter takes as its input Arabic text that is represented
in the Buckwalter transliteration schema.
  3.1 Options
    There is X option that will output all of the
segmentations/lexemes that are not in the current lexical files. With no
options, the the segmenter will just output the segmentation that it
decides is correct.  This "X" option allows you to simply cut these
lexemes that were not found in the lexicon(s) and after any needed
hand-corrections (there might not be any) paste them into the segmenter
lexicon.

/*****************************************************
**** The segmenter lexicon file needs to be sorted in ASCII ascending
order or nothing will work.
******************************************************************/
   You might want to hang on to this list of lexemes in order to add them
to the tagger's lexicon.
    There are two batch files that will perform these two options:
->segment_X.bat<- which contains the following command line
    seg_arabic X < %1.trnsl > %1.segm

and ->segment.bat<- which contains the following command line
    seg_arabic < %1.trnsl > %1.segm

  3.2 lexicon files
    The following files need to be present before the segmenter will
operate correctly
    small_lexicon_1a.txt            \\ these are all of the
stems that are not
                                    \\
affixal morphology and are not prepositions
                                    \\
must be sorted in ascending order
    arb_rots.lex                    \\ all valid roots
in the language as per Buckwalter
    prep_arabs.translit             \\ all
prepositions
    int inn_wuxt_count              \\ particles that
assign accusative case
    spesh_dict.txt                  \\ a Context-free
rules file for mapping a problematic
                                    \\
orthographic word into its constituent lexemes
    corpus_sorted.bigram            \\ a list of all bigrams
of all text correctly segmented
                                    \\
so far, sorted by count in decreasing order

  3.3 segment bigrams file
    Once you have the input file correctly segmented, cut and paste it
in to the file "corpus_all.segm."  Then you will need to create a new
"corpus_sorted.bigram".  The following two commands will perform this.
    text2wngram -n 2 < corpus_all.segm > corpus_all.bigram
    sort_bigram < corpus_all.bigram > corpus_sorted.bigram

    You may want to create a batch file for this.  There is nothing to
prevent running this all as one command line, i.e.
    text2wngram -n 2 < corpus_all.segm | sort_bigram >
corpus_sorted.bigram

    I personally prefer being able to take a look at the intermediate
file.  I have been keeping all of these files in a different directory
from the one where I am doing all of my annotation work.  So I then need
to copy this file, "corpus_sorted.bigram" back into my working directory.
This directory is named "texts_Folder\combined\segments" and should be
created when you unzip the archive.

4.0 Brill's tagger
    There is a batch file called tag_it.bat that runs the following
command line:
TAGGER.EXE ..\arab_lex.start %1.segm  BIGBIGRAMLIST LEXICALRULEFILE.andy
CNTEXT.andy > %1.tagged

    The following files need to be in the directory in which you run the
tagger:
    BIGBIGRAMLIST, LEXICALRULEFILE.andy CNTEXT.andy, tagger.exe,
start_state_tag.exe, and final_state_tag.exe.
    The file "arab_lex.start" needs to be in the parent directory.  If you
find this annoying, move "arab_lex.start" into the working directory and
change the batch file accordingly.

    Before running the tagger you will probably want to add the new words
that were discovered during the segmentation phase of the process.
  4.1 tagger lexicon
    The "file arab_lex.start" contains the tagger lexicon with entries
of the form
Eryf NNM JJMS
EryqAt NP
Erys NNM
Eskryp JJFS
mwqE NNM JJMS

  4.2 adding words from the segmenter
    Take the lexemes saved from the segmentation phase that you added
to the segmentation lexicon.  You will need to decide the correct tag(s)
for those lexemes.  If more than one tag is possible, place the most
likely tag first in the list of possible tags that follows the lexeme.
For
instance in the example above the lexeme "mwqE" can be either a noun or
an
adjective, but I have decided arbitrarily that the noun tag (NNM) is more
probable.  Now run the batch file tag_it.

  4.3 perl files for extracting unknown words
    There are still likely to be some unknown words.  Unknown words
that cannot be correctly tagged from the context are tagged with either
an
"NN" or an "NNP."  The NNP is for words beginning with a capital letter.
One annoying thing that will be fixed in a later revision is that some of
the letters used in the transliteration scheme overlap with perl's
special
command set.  I need to escape them.  Currently the string "$dyd/NN" will
get extracted as "dyd/NN" because the dollar sign is an anchor for the
regexp stuff.

    There are two batch files "xtract.bat" and "xtractNNP.bat" that
each invoke a perl script for extracting the words tagged with these
"unknown word tags."  If you do not have perl you can do a search for
them
in your text editor.  Take these unknown words, edit them with the
correct
tag and add them to the tagger lexicon "arab_lex.start"  If you have
added
the new words from the segmentation phase there should not be very many
of
these.  Finally, hand check and correct the tagged file.  At this phase I
have typically been seeing 7 or 8 errors in a 600 segment run of text or
just over one per cent of errors.  If you can think of a context rule
that
would fix the error add it to the file "CNTEXT.andy"  The tagger lexicon
file "arab_lex.start" does not need to be sorted.  The contextual rule
file needs to be in rule execution order, i.e. rules later in the file
get
performed later than rules located earlier in the file.
  4.4 context file
    The context file, CNTEXT.andy, currently being used has been
composed entirely by hand.  In the training directory there is a context
file called CONTEXT-RULEFILE that has been created by the training phase
of Brill's tagger.  On my to do list is comparing the performance of the
hand crafted rules file with the performance of the automatically
generated rules.  My hunch is that the hand-crafted rules are still more
accurate than the SW generated rules.
  4.5 training the tagger
    Read the file "readme.training".  There are batch files in the
text_folder\combined\training directory that will help with typing the
long command lines and stuff.  You will need a perl script interpreter.

    If you maintain the directory structure from the compressed
archive file, i.e. texts_Folder\combined with the subdirectories
        segments, taggeds, training, translits

    where there is a file called corpus_all.segm in the segments
directory and a file called corpus_all.tagged in the taggeds directory
AND
these files contain everything tagged and segmented and corrected so far,

>>>>>>>> ******************-----> Then
in the directory "training" you should be able to run batch files by
typing the following batch file commands in the order shown.
wordlist
divide_2
smallword_lst
bigram
lexrule
train_lexic
final_lexic
untag2
make_dummy_corp
learn_cntxt

   Finally, if you want to use these newly generated rules files
CONTEXT-RULEFILE and LEXRULEOUTFILE you need to copy them into your
directory where you are doing your segmenting and tagging and either
rename them or edit the batch file tag_it.bat to make the names match.


Good luck and have fun
andy June 28, 2002

the manouba paper and the ecl paper describe the algorithm of the
segmenter in some detail.  Also the most complete list of the tagset is
given in the file arabic_tags.txt.

The current to do list
1) integrate the tagger and the segmenter lexicons into a single
"database" and mark the difference between the list of verbs and nouns
for
the segmenter, eliminatign trying verb morphology on forms like tfEyl.
2) integrate all executable portions into a single executable with a gui
interface.
3) add unicode support
4) do the tagging and segmenting in the same pass using info from a tag
trigram model to help with the segmenting and the segmentation morphology
to aid in POS tagging.
5) currently I am segmenting, tagging and correcting roughly 600 segments
in about 2 hours.  This means that I could realistically tag about 9,000
words a week, and still have time to do other things.  There is every
indication that as I tag more text, the quicker it goes.  I could
realistically have 500,000 words or more tagged by this time next year.
With any help I am sure I could double that.
6) Start working on a probabilistic chart parser or implement the Collins
parser and start building a tree-bank, using the POS corpus that I am
accumulating.
7) Compare the performance of the hand crafted rules file with the
performance of the automatically generated rules.



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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul  3 22:42:43 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:42:43 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Ta'nafa responses
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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject:Ta'nafa response

Perhaps a little more of a context might be helpful.
Try the following URL :
http://lexicons.sakhr.com/

If the word in question happens to be the Vth form perfect,  tafa33ala:
ta'annafa, then the root would be ANF, for which there are several
meanings.  Otherwise, if indeed Ta'nafah starts with a velarized T,
(Taa'), then I suspect the pattern is fa3lala, root T'NF (Taa', hamza,
nuun, faa'),
for which I have found no entries.

Waheed
===============================
Just for fun, the following is a copy of my (above) response, after being
fixed by my spell checker:

Perhaps a little more of a context might be helpful.
Try the following URL :
http://lexicons.sakhr.com/

If the word in question happens to be the Vetch form perfect,  tafa33ala:
ta'annafa, then the root would be AN, for which there are several
meanings.  Otherwise, if indeed Ta'nafah starts with a valorized T,
(Tea'), then I suspect the pattern is fall, root TEN (Tea', hams, nun,
fax'),
for which I have found no entries.

Waheed
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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:nagwa hedayet <nhedayet at yahoo.com>
Subject:Ta'nafa response

If this is the verb conjugated with th third person sg. fem., I think it
means to look down at doing sth. and refrain from doing it. wa Llaaho
'alam ya Mike

Nagwa Hedayet


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul  3 22:42:50 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:42:50 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic HTML Package response
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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:Arabic HTML Package

Hi Martha,

Sakhr's NasherNet is only $199.00 for this list members (it is listed
at $299.00 on our website). Support is available via email, directly or
through AramediA, to Sakhr's top technical support team. They usually
respond within 24 working hours. Using a calling card, you may reach
them for pennies a minute on the telephone, that's much less than
the 900 number charged by reputable US software vendors.

NasherNet is "three tools in one" package: Web Editor, Publisher, and
Manager.  http://www.aramedia.com/nasher.htm

MS Arabic Office XP, including a trial FrontPage 2002 version, and MS
Arabic Word 2000 are also available at AramediA. As always, Arabic-L
subscribers get some discount.

George N. Hallak
http://www.aramedia.com
http://www.arabicsoftware.net
617-825-3044 Fax 617-265-9648

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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:waleed at talk21.com
Subject:Arabic HTML Package

Greetings to the desert in Tucson,

Dreamweaver is not particularly designed to support Arabic text, though
if you visit Macromedia's website you will find a patch that can make
you write script from right to left. As you might have guessed it it is
not the easiest to use nor does it produce the best results.

However, as is always the case with the Arab adverturers that have
always defied the odds there is a way around this that enables you to
enlist the capabilities of probably the best web design programme in the
market.


It is all at the top of the html code. If you write in the tag that the
HTML language is ARABIC then the programme has no problems with it. It
will publish the site on the net in Arabic but it won't display it in
its window in Arabic. What you will see is the usual extraterrestrial
code that nobody understands.

My suggestion is then not to write the Arabic text directly into
Dreamweaver but to cut and paste the text from any word processor. The
only thing to pay particular attention to when doing this is to make
sure that the operating system you are using is totally Arabic enabled,
otherwise the text that you cut from the word processor will get messed
up in the clipboad and will be pasted in Dreamweaver in a language that
no-one on this earth knows (except our alien friends).

Here are some (place before the 'head' tag) I sucessfully used:
1=<html  lang="AR">
2=<html>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1256">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="ar-sa">
3=
<html dir="rtl">

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1256">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="ar-sa">

Best of luck,
Dr. Waleed Al-Amri

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul  3 22:42:30 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:42:30 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Diss on Inchoatives
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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:Diss on Inchoatives

New Dissertation Abstract

Institution: University of Pittsburgh
Program: Department of General Linguistics
Dissertation Status: Completed
Degree Date: 1989

Author: Abduljawad T. Mahmoud

Dissertation Title:
A Contrastive Study of Middle and Inchoative Alternations in Arabic and English

Linguistic Field:
Syntax, Semantics, Morphology, Lexicography

Subject Language:
English, Arabic, Standard

Dissertation Director 1: Lori Levin
Dissertation Director 2: Sarah Thomason
Dissertation Director 3: Richmond Thomason


Dissertation Abstract:

This study presents a detailed analysis of the semantic, syntactic and
morphological features of the middle and inchoative (unaccusative)
alternations in Arabic and English. The issue of the middle/
unaccusative contrast and the question of whether middles constitute a
semantically and syntactically uniform class are also addressed. On
the basis of this analysis, a new typology of the middle and
unaccusative verbs in the two languages has been proposed.  In
addition to the semantic properties and the syntactic behavior of
these verbs, this typology is conditioned by some contextual and
pragmatic factors. The following are the main conclusions of this
study: (i) Given the class of the unmarked unaccusatives and the class
of the morphological intransitives, the morphological condition for
the formation of Arabic unaccusatives is neither necessary nor
sufficient. (ii) Unlike English, Arabic does not have semantic or
syntactic restrictions analogous to those that distinguish the
English middles from unaccusatives. (iii) The English verbs known un
the literature as middles do not constitute a semantically or
syntactically uniform class. (iv) Despite the fact that Arabic and
English are typologically different and genetically unrelated, the two
languages exhibit significant similarities with respect to the
semantic and syntactic properties of the middle and unaccusative
alternations.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jul  5 20:40:24 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:40:24 -0600
Subject: film showing policy
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JUL.2002.144024.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

To make you aware of a policay matter I recently learned about:

When a club associated with our department (Japan Club for example) wants to show a film, even if it is just a video, if it is only for entertainment, then we will owe money to the makers of the film.  The only way we can show it for free is:

1) if there is an educational purpuse;

and more importantly,

2) if we limit the showing to members of the club only.

This means that you can't really put signs up around campus inviting everyone to see your film.  You can only really invite members.  If you have questions about this, please see the University General Counsel, who will counsel you not to show films at all.

Dil


From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jul  5 20:47:33 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:47:33 -0600
Subject: Written Objectives for Each Major
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JUL.2002.144733.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

Guess what?
We have been asked to develop, by the end of summer.  This will allow the college and university curriculum councils to evaluated requests for program changes in light of program aims, and it should "assist departments in evaluating and plannign major requirements.'  It will also help us 'inch our way forward into the culture of assessment,' a culture that will be assumed at our next accreditation visit.

You remember assessment?  Well, it hasn't gone away yet.

I am going to have Cally put a sample (from Electrical Engineering) in each of your boxes.  I need the section heads of Chinese, Japanese and Korean to come up with something.  We can discuss it at our meetings the end of August, but you should at least have a good draft by them, because by the end of that week, I need to turn them in.
Dil


From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jul  5 22:49:07 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:49:07 -0600
Subject: inadvertant mailing
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JUL.2002.164907.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

Somehow the address list for my department got mixed up with the Arabic-L address list, so you all got two (or more?) messages I was supposed to be sending to the department. Sorry about that!
Dil


From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul  8 22:47:16 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:47:16 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Mac OS X Arabic at last
Message-ID: <MON.8.JUL.2002.164716.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  08 Jul 2002
From:Dan Parvaz <dparvaz at unm.edu>ara
Subject:Mac OS X Arabic at last (almost)

It would appear that OS X is finally coming through in their support for
RTL text. Not only is there this message in Thinksecret:

Will Jaguar include support for Hebrew and Arabic?

Yes! In the latest pre-release builds of Jaguar, the Keyboard menu
includes a
variety of new languages, including Hebrew and Arabic. Right-to-left
typing
support is there, at last, and those languages are also a part of the
Language
tab in the International section of System Preferences.

There is also a screen shot of the language selection, as well:

http://homepage.mac.com/alqahtani/OSX-Arabic.jpg

Cheers,

Dan.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul  8 22:47:19 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:47:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Translation job
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Date:  08 Jul 2002
From:Muhammad S Eissa <eissa at umich.edu>
Subject:Translation job

                 The message below was posted by one of the students at
the University of Michigan. I thought it might be helpful to bring it to
your attention. Please reply to the person whose name and telephone
number included in the message. I only know the student who posted the
message but have no knowledge of the person requesting the job. This is
a disclaimer.

I am looking for someone to translate a lengthy psych survey from
English
to Arabic (over 100 pages).  I need someone who types Arabic
proficiently
and is qualified with a strong command of Arabic (native speakers
strongly
preferred).  Arabic software will be provided. Contact Hamada Hamid
immediately if interested and qualified. (734) 662-2092

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul  8 22:47:18 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:47:18 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs compositions by Arabic students
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Date:  08 Jul 2002
From:Meriem Sahli <meriem at mail.dk>
Subject:Needs compositions by Arabic students

  I am writing an MA dissertation where I try to describe text
development and cohesion in compositions written by Arab students in
Arabic and English. -I have not limited my topic yet, I am still reading
the literature-I want to extend my study to compositions written by
native speakers of English who also can write in Arabic. I need some
compositions written by this group of students, but I don't know how to
get hold of such data. I don't teach Arabic to this  group of students,
do you have any idea who might help me with this? What level should the
native speakers of English have to be able to write a composition in
Arabic? I intend to use topics used for the TOEFL exams, the ones on the
internet. The two topics are going to be argumentative.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Meriem Sahli

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul  8 22:47:20 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:47:20 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Ta'nafa Conclusion
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1) Subject:Ta'nafa is really Ta'ifa
2) Subject:Ta'nafa response

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1)
Date:  08 Jul 2002
From:"Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:Ta'nafa is really Taa'ifa
Dear Friends,

      Thank you for your help with  */Ta'nafah/, which appears toward the
end of page 150, Vol. I of M. A. F. Ibrahim's recent (?) edition of
Suyuti's  *Itqaan.* (Cairo)
      I have finally gotten off my duff (a type of tambourine I sit
on next to my laurels), and checked the 1951 Cairo edition (p. 52 mid),
and it has the correct  /Ta'ifah/ in place of the misprint above.
      Best wishes,
                                       Mike Schub (De los reyes taifas.)

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Date:  08 Jul 2002
From:Michel Naggar <mnaggar at sympatico.ca>
Subject:Ta'nafa response

As Nagwa Hedayat wrote, it is indeed to look down on something and reject
it.
The stem is surely ANF=nose. One usually looks down upon something,
manifesting a mild disgust or disdain, by raising one's nose as if to
avoid
a foul smell. Curiously, one would say in French: lever le nez!

We also have the verse of (was it Al Nabigha) who said praising the
Ghassanides: Shummu-L unufi mina-L tirazi_L awwali.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 10 14:21:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:21:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:NCOLCTL Small Grants
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Date:  10 Jul 2002
From:[reposted from LINGUIST]
Subject:NCOLCTL Small Grants

Date:  Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:17:43 -0400
From:  "McGinnis, Scott" <smcginnis at nflc.org>
Subject:  FINAL call for proposals: NCOLCTL mini-grant competition --
DEADLINE          FOR APPLICATIONS 12 JULY

Scott McGinnis
Executive Director
National Council of Organizations of Less Commonly Taught Languages

Associate, LCTLs
National Foreign Language Center
7100 Baltimore Avenue, Suite 410
College Park, MD 20740
Voice: 301-403-1750 x35       Fax: 301-403-1754
E-mail: smcginnis at nflc.org OR sm167 at umail.umd.edu
WWW: www.councilnet.org OR www.nflc.org

Small Grants Available for the Less Commonly Taught Languages

The National Council of Organizations of Less Commonly Taught
Languages (NCOLCTL) is pleased to announce a competition for
mini-grants.  Both individuals and LCTL organizations are encouraged
to submit proposals.  The mini-grants, non-renewable and not to exceed
$2000, must be used for projects that promote field building in the
Less Commonly Taught Languages, such as contributing to the Council's
annual conference.  Purposes for which the grants may be used include
the following:

- travel to a conference in order to make a presentation about
language pedagogy or materials development
- preparation for publication of a field analysis by an organization
of NCOLCTL
- attending a workshop or institute aimed specifically at LCTL
pedagogy or materials
- provision of partial support for a guest presenter at a workshop or
meeting for teachers of a particular LCTL.

Application criteria: Individuals who apply must be actively involved
in LCTL education and be members of a LCTL organization that is a
member of the Council, or work in a LCTL that does not belong to any
language organization.  Proposals should include: (a) the name(s) and
qualifications of project member(s) submitting the proposal; (b) a
2-page, double-spaced project description with a statement of project
need and how the funds will be used, including any "product" to be
produced under the grant; and (c) a timeline for completion.

Applications will be strengthened by the inclusion of letters of
support from the individual's institution and/or a NCOLCTL member
organization. Preference will be given to projects involving
collaboration among individuals in two or more LCTLs.

Successful applicants will be required to submit a brief final report
describing how the grant was spent, the results of the project, and a
copy of any product stemming from the project.

Composition of the Screening Committee: The mini-grant screening
committee will be chaired by the Vice President of the Council and
will consist of one Council At-Large representative and one Council
representative selected by the President.  The committee will
represent balance among language areas and organizational size.

Deadline: Proposal submissions must be received by July 12, 2002. Each
committee member will rank order the proposals from strongest to
weakest and the vice president will send this ranking to the Executive
Director, who will notify the winning proposals by no later than July
29.  The committee is empowered to suggest funding proposals at a
level less than requested.

Address for submissions: Proposals may be submitted via U.S. Mail, fax
or electronic mail to:

                                     Scott McGinnis, Executive Director
                                     NCOLCTL
                                     National Foreign Language Center
                                     7100 Baltimore Avenue, Suite 410
                                     College Park, MD  20740
                                     Voice:  301-403-1750 x35
                                     Fax:      301-403-1754
                                     e-mail:  smcginnis at nflc.org

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 10 14:21:36 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:21:36 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:What is going rate for translation query
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Date:  10 Jul 2002
From:suma99 at att.net
Subject:What is going rate for translation query

I have a question.
What should I expect to be paid for a translation job?
Arabic to English.
Should the rate be any different for a business letter
or official document of a few pages.
And what about for a book?
$$$s by page, or by number of words, or by time, or size
of whole job???
Please help

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 10 14:21:39 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:21:39 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Afnushi query
Message-ID: <WED.10.JUL.2002.082139.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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1)
Date:  10 Jul 2002
From:Safa Jubran <safa.alferd at terra.com.br>
Subject:Afnushi query

Mahfuz (Naguib) in his novel Miramar, uses " the women of Afnushi", what
does this mean? I need some help, thanks.
safa

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 10 14:21:43 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:21:43 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs Reviewer for Sudanese Arabic mnscpt
Message-ID: <WED.10.JUL.2002.082143.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  10 Jul 2002
From:Elizabeth Bergman <embergman at earthlink.net>
Subject:Needs Reviewer for Sudanese Arabic mnscpt

I am looking for someone to review a manuscript on urban Sudanese Arabic.
This the variety spoken in the Omdurman-Khartoum area, rather than the
creole
or creolized Arabic varieties of the west and south.  The ideal reviewer
would
have relatively recent research and/or publication in this variety.

Please respond directly to:
embergman at earthlink.net

With thanks, Elizabeth

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 10 14:21:41 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:21:41 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs Arabic Linguistic Terminology
Message-ID: <WED.10.JUL.2002.082141.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  10 Jul 2002
From:Zohra Mimouni <mimouniz at magellan.umontreal.ca>
Subject:Needs Arabic Linguistic Terminology

Our research team is in the process of completing a computerized
language assessment battery to conduct rehabilitation and assessment of
Arabic-speaking patients with acquired reading disorders. For the Arabic
interface we need the Arabic terms corresponding to the  English:
distractor-input-output-semantics-semantic-target-morphology-morphological-open
class-closed class-consonant-vowel-word/picture
matching-syllable-imageable-syntactic structure-cleft
sentence-keyboard-concreteness
level-prefix-suffix-affix-nonword-template-pseudo prefix-

Could any one help or refer us to an English-Arabic or French-Arabic
dictionary of linguistic terms.
Thanks
--
Zohra Mimouni, Ph.D.
Chercheure Associée
Centre de recherche, Institut universitaire de gériatrie de Montréal
Université de Montréal et Cégep Montmorency

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 11 15:06:17 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:17 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Issue of Linguistic Research
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Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:abderrezzak tourabi <atourabi at hotmail.com>
Subject:New Issue of Linguistic Research

Linguistic Research
Director: Abdelkader Fassi Fehri
Published by The Institute for the Study and Research on Arabization, 
Rabat-Morocco
ISSN: 113-741X

Volume 7, N∞ 1, May 2002

PrÈsentation
Editorial Statement

Fassi Fehri, Abdelkader
The Syntax of Arabic Time                                        

Pawel Rutkowski
The Syntax of Quantifier Phrases and the               
Inherent vs.Structural Case Distinction

Articles in Arabic
  
Lachheb, Khalid
?insaa?-u qaacidat-i muctayaat-in mafhuumimyy-a: xutuwaat-un 
manhajiyyat-un wa tajriib


Terminologie / Terminology


Fassi Fehri, Abdelkader
A Lexicon of linguistic terms
Lexique de terminologie linguistique -I-

Fassi Fehri, Abdelkader
Lexique arabe multidialectal  
The Multidialectal Arabic Lexicon -B-

For subscription information please contact:
Abdelkader Fassi Fehri
Institute for the Study and Research on Arabization
All El Fassi Avenue, B.P. 6216, Agdal-Rabat (Institute) Morocco
Fax: (212) 37 77 20 65
 
 Abderre

zzak Tourabi

Institute for Studies and Research on Arabization

B.P. 6216 Rabat -Institutes  Agdal  Morocco

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 11 15:06:22 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:22 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Its' Anfushi
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2) Subject:Its' Anfushi
3) Subject:Its' Anfushi
4) Subject:Its' Anfushi
5) Subject:Its' Anfushi
6) Subject:Its' Anfushi

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1)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Adrian Gully <A.J.Gully at exeter.ac.uk>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

Without seeing the text I would say that this is almost
certainly a reference to Anfushi (probably not Afnushi in
the text although I could be wrong), an important and very
interesting area of the city of Alexandria, Egypt. The
novel you mention is set in Alexandria if my memory serves
me correctly. I would not wish to incriminate myself
by hazarding a guess at the historical or even the
sociological significance of the reference, but Mahfouz
probably had something very particular in mind.

Adrian Gully, Prof. of Arabic Studies
IAIS, University of Exeter, UK

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2)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Muhammad S Eissa <eissa at umich.edu>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

> Mahfuz (Naguib) in his novel Miramar, uses " the women of Afnushi", what
> does this mean? I need some help, thanks.
> safa

It seems that whatever version of Miramar you are reading has a typo of
the name. It is the women of ANFUSHI not Afnushi. ANFUSHI is a very
famous and old inner city quarter in the west side of Alexandria. During
the historical period of the novel it was highly populated with
fishermen and is still famous for its great fish restaurants.  Women of
Anfushi used to be seen on the beaches of this quarter swimming with
their children while wearing their regular clothes; as if swimming suits
were not allowed. You can see that even today in that and other quarters
of Alexandria.

Muhammad S. Eissa, Ph. D.
Department of Near Eastern Studies,
University of Michigan,
2097 Frieze Building,
Ann Arbor, MI 48109

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3)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Antonio Giménez <huesteantigua at yahoo.es>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

Maybe "Afnushi" is just a misprint for Anfushi, the well-known district 
in
Alexandria.

Antonio Giménez
huesteantigua at yahoo.es

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4)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Michel Naggar <mnaggar at sympatico.ca>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

The women of Anfoushi.

There is a misprint in the query: it is ANFUSHI and not Afnushi.  
Anfushi is
a well known popular neighbourhood in the city of Alexandria. Many
neighbourhoods in Alexandria have inspired writers and painters. Bahari 
is
another neighbourhood that made men's imagination fly: there are the 
famous
Banat Bahari (Bahari's maidens). There is even El Kharrat's Banat
Iskendereyya!

Hope this helps,
Michel Naggar

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5)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:zeinab Ibrahim <zeinabib at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

Is it Afnushi or Anfushi? Anfushi is a low class area in Alexandria.
Zeinab

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6)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Reem Bassiouney <reem.bassiouney at somerville.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

Afnushi, should be spelled as Anfushi and it is an old district in 
Alexandria, near the old fishing town area of Alexandria. I hope this is 
helpful.
Reem Bassiouney
Somerville college
Oxford

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 11 15:06:21 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:21 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:The going rate responses
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3) Subject:The going rate response
4) Subject:The going rate response

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1)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:The going rate response

Hello,

It is very difficult to find a posted rate in the United States.  
Translators
and agencies are cagey about it.  It seems there were some court cases 
about
translators price fixing, part of the complaint about which had involved 
the
posting of rates.  I don't know how that worked exactly.  Seems odd to 
me.

Translation agencies in England will post their rates, which vary by 
language
pair, Arabic/English being on the high end.  It costs more to translate 
into
Arabic than out of Arabic.  That is directly related to the poverty of
technical terminology in Arabic and the lack of standardization of
terminologies where they do exist.  (This raises the question, What 
exactly do
we mean when we say "Standard Arabic"?)

British rates are close to those paid to translators by international
organizations, which are in the range from $150 to $170 per 1000 words.

That is on the high end of things and it reflects the complexity and
sensitivity of the documents translated.

Freelance translators often will negotiate a reduced rate for bulk 
projects
(like books) and may charge lower rates for less complex texts (like 
business
letters) and standard forms (like birth certificates, college diplomas, 
etc.)
Legal and other highly technical texts should rightly command the higher
price.

In Cairo you might find good translators asking around $55 to $60 per 
1000
words.  In my opinion, they are selling themselves too cheaply.

David Wilmsen
Director, Arabic and Translation Studies
The American University in Cairo
28 Falaki Street
Bab El-Louk
Cairo, Egypt
tel:  2 02 7976872
fax:  2 02 7957565

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2)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:GSalib at aol.com
Subject:The going rate response

For a book, I get paid  $0.15 per word.
Galila

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3)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Raji Rammuny <raram at umich.edu>
Subject:The going rate response

Regarding translation fees by page: As coordinator of the Great Books of 
Islamic Civilization translation project, we pay $35 per page of about 
200 words, $40 for a page of 200-250, $45 for a page of 250-300 and $50  
for a page of 300-350 and so on. Best,
Raji Rammuny

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4)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject:The going rate response

Greetings / TaHaiya tayyiba wa b3ad...

Hiyaakum Allah jamii3aan...

Re your post on ARABIC-L list

Please send details of your situation and questions.

o  Avoid falling into the trap of a "per word" rate... kaaritha khatiira.

        That method of developing a quote may sound convenient and neat, 
but
it effectively is very unrealistic in terms of the actual time and 
effort you
invest to do a good translation (plus have someone nearby review and 
edit the
draft, time allowing).

        Using a "per word" rate is somewhat comparable to asking an 
architect
to quote for designing and building a house according to the numbers of
boards, bricks, sidewalls and nails used in the structure.

o   A quote should be based on your examination of the source document
(assuming that is available) and assessment of various factors of the 
entire
cycle for production, such as:

==  subject matter - is it familiar or will you have to start learning a 
new
subject and bilingual vocabulary (which takes your time away from other
business to do)?

==  is the subject simple (birth certificates, diplomas. official forms) 
or
complex (legal, commercial, contractual, technical, passport pages)

==   what is the desired format: Arabic MS Word, PDF, RTF, EPS
        (NOTE:  If the client wants the product formatted in Arabic MS 
Word,
insure that the client or the end user/recipient has a PC with 
compatible or
compliant OS, such as MS Windows 2000 or XP (which both include good 
Arabic
support in the "regional settings" feature) and MS Office 97/2000/XP.)

==  is this a "text-only" translation (fairly straightforward) or does 
the
source document have a layout that effectively requires you to make 
identical
layout and DTP (passport  pages and other structured forms)

==  how much time will you need to do this?

==  when / how soon does the client want delivery (determine and tell the
client what are your additional charges for rush/urgent/weekend service)?

== what is the client's budget allocated for this production and 
scheduled
delivery? What is the client's method of payment?
      (Avoid the low rates offered for projects that appear on < 
www.proz.com >
, as you usually will have a long wait before you get paid.)

== set a minimum rate per page. FYI, a typical page of English text 
equals
240 words; the "word expansion factor" for into-Arabic translation
approximates: +20%

(The method, greatly summarized above, is called "activity-based 
costing,"
details on request.)

If a prospective client is unwilling to provide the source document to 
you
for your examination and assessment before you develop a quote and 
schedule
and undertake the project, decline the job.

Hope these points help you establish your successful business presence. 
How
and where do you market your services?

Good luck.  Khair, in sha' Allah.

Regards from San Pedro (Los Angeles Harbor Area)

Stephen H. Franke

e-mail: < mutarjm at aol.com >

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Vocalic Passive Query and Address query
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Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Sami Boudelaa <sami.boudelaa at mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk>
Subject:Vocalic Passive Query and Address query

-Does anybody out there know the email address of Hamza Al-Mozainy?

 -Does anybody know of an Arabic dialect that codes the active/passive 
distinction in the vocalic melody of the verb as is the case in Standard 
Arabic (e.g. [katam/kutim] hide/be hidden)?

Thanks
Sami

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:18 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:Terminology and Composition replies
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Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject:Terminology Reply

Hi all,

    There are a couple of Arabic - English and English - Arabic linguistic
terminology dictionaries around.  At least one from "Libairie du Liban"
(is spelling right?).  I don't have the titles or publication dates at my
fingertips, but I do remember that the different dictionaries will not
always agree on a common terminology for many terms.

    I can only conclude that this terminology can vary in the different
Arab states.  I also think that many experts in the Arab world have
learned linguistics using textbooks written in French or English and may
not even use Arabic terminology when talking about linguistics.

    Please correct me if I my knowledge is not right.

cheers,
Andy

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Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Raji Rammuny <raram at umich.edu>
Subject:Composition Reply

I can help you after I get settled in my new office. I'll send you two
articles dealing with analysis of actual errors made by American
students learning Arabic and Arab students learning English. I have also
collected over the past 3-4 years actual errors made by American
students taking advanced Arabic composition at UM. I'll be glad to
provide you with samples of these errors, too. Best,

Raji Rammuny

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:16:40 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Thanks for Ahfushi help
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Safa Jubran <safa.alferd at terra.com.br>
Subject:Thanks for Ahfushi help

I want to thnak all the friends that helped me to understand "Anfushi."
thank´s a lot
Safa

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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Advanced Islam texts query
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Dil Parkinson <dil at byu.edu
Subject:Advanced Islam texts query

[I tried posting this to Arabic-Info, but they are apparently on
vacation, and I'm being pressured to come up with an answer.  Can anyone
help?]

Our university has decided to beef up it's offerings on Islam.  We have
a beginning course in the Religion department, and courses in Islamic
History, and Islamic Humanities, Islamic Art (and Middle East Geography
and Political Science).  We are looking to add an advanced upper
division course in Modern Islam that would hopefully cover the various
manifestations of Islam in the modern world, everything from Islamic
banking, to the various fundamentalist movements, to the way it is
practiced in various countries, to Islam in the West.  We are looking
for one or more textbooks that would be appropriate for such a course.
The assumption is that the students would have had one or more beginning
courses and would have read an introductory level book that dealt with
Islam from the time of Muhammad.  Does anyone have any suggestions of
more advanced or targetted books that might fill our need?
Thanks.
Dil Parkinson
<dil at byu.edu>

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:23 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:23 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:CASA Job
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:"Teresa J. Blount" <tblount at LearnLink.Emory.Edu>
Subject:CASA Job

Position Opening

Executive Director
of the Center for Arabic Study Abroad (CASA)
in Cairo, Egypt

Deadline:  October 15, 2002

The Center for Arabic Study Abroad (CASA) announces an opening for the
position of Executive Director at the American University in Cairo
(AUC).  CASA represents a consortium of twenty-three American
universities and offers intensive advanced summer and full-year programs
in Arabic for American college students and faculty.  The CASA Stateside
office is currently located at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia. A
detailed description of CASA and its various programs is available at
www.emory.edu/COLLEGE/CASA.

The CASA Executive Director is responsible for:
Managing the CASA office and its budgets at AUC
Curriculum, instructional materials, and test development
Some teaching of CASA classes
Faculty supervision
Student counseling
Liaison with AUC and the CASA Stateside office

The Executive Director holds an appointment on the AUC faculty at a rank
and salary appropriate to his or her qualifications.  The appointment
shall be for a minimum of two years (renewable), beginning June 2003.

Required Qualifications:
Advanced degree (Ph.D. preferred) in Arabic/Middle Eastern Studies
Strong background in language pedagogy
Professional-level competence in Arabic
Experience in teaching advanced Arabic classes
Experience in curriculum & material development and testing
Administrative experience

PLEASE SEND APPLICATION LETTERS WITH A COMPLETE C.V. AND THREE LETTERS
OF REFERENCE BY OCTOBER 15, 2002 TO:

Mahmoud Al-Batal, Director
Center for Arabic Study Abroad (CASA)
1385 Oxford Road, Emory University
Atlanta, GA. 30322
Tel:  (404)727-2575
Fax: (404)727-6178

THE CENTER FOR ARABIC STUDY ABROAD (CASA)
IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:26 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:26 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Linguistic Terminology Dictionaries Responses
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Safa Jubran <safa.alferd at terra.com.br>
Subject:Linguistic Terminology Dictionaries Response

I have here a list, hope it would help:
 
Mseddi, Abdessalem. Dictionaire de linguistique.Maison arabe dsu livre, 
1984
 
Unified dictionary of linguistics terms (english-arabic french), 1989 
Tunis.
 
Khalil Ahmad Khalil. Mu' jam almustalahat allughawiyya, Beirute. Dar 
Alfikr, 1995
 
Baraké, Bassem. Dictionaire de linguistique (français- arabe)
Beirut, Jarrouss press
 
Comittee od arabe linguists. A dictionary of modern linguisti terms. 
Libraire du Liban
 
Mubarak, Mubarak. Mu'jam almustalahat al-alsaniyya. Fransi, arabi, 
Ingliisy) Dar al-fikr al-lubnany.
 
Safa

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2)
Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Tom Davey <tomdavey at earthlink.net>
Subject:Linguistic Terminology Dictionaries Response

Hello,
 
The name of the book mentioned is:
"The Monitor: A Dictionary of Arabic Grammatical Terms", compiled by
Pierre Cachia, University of Edinburg. Librairie du Liban, Beirut.
First published in 1973.
 
I hope this helps.
Tom Davey

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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Ashraf <ashraf_m30 at hotmail.com>
Subject:Linguistic Terminology Dictionaries Response

    There are several Arabic - English/French and English/French - 
Arabic dictionaries of linguistic terms.
In this moment, I can remember the following dictionaries:
- Al-Khuli, Dr Muhammad Ali : A dictionary of theoretical linguistics, 
Library of Liban, Beirut, first edition 1982.
- Al-Khuli, Dr Muhammad Ali : A dictionary of applied linguistics, 
Library of Liban, Beirut.
- Abdessalam Mseddi, Dictionnaire de linguistique. Maison Arabe Du 
Livre, 1984.
- Baalbaki, Ramzi Munir: Dictionary of linguistic terms, Dar-El-Ilm 
Lilmalayin, Beirut, first published, June 1990.
 
Best regards,
 
Ashraf Muhammad
Cairo University

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:29 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:29 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:AAAL Conference
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:National Foreign Language Resource Center <aaal2003 at hawaii.edu>
Subject:AAAL Conference

Call for Papers: AAAL 2003

The annual conference of the American Association for Applied Linguistics
(AAAL) will be held March 22-25, 2003 at the Sheraton National Hotel in
Arlington, VA, across the Potomac River from Washington, DC.  Proposals
for presentations related to policy, research, and theory are invited in
any area of applied linguistics. Proposals may be for individual papers,
poster sessions, or colloquia.  The abstract submission and refereeing
process will be paperless this year.  Instructions regarding abstract
preparation and online submission and other aspects of the conference may
be found on the organization's website:

			www.aaal.org/aaal2003/

Proposals may be submitted online from now until the deadline of August
26, 2002.  Please join us in Arlington for AAAL 2003!

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:43 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:43 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Thanks for Ahfushi help
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Safa Jubran <safa.alferd at terra.com.br>
Subject:Thanks for Ahfushi help

I want to thnak all the friends that helped me to understand "Anfushi."
thank´s a lot
Safa

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:35 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:35 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs basic children's textbooks recommendations
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:"Susan K. Hedahl" <shedahl at ltsg.edu>
Subject:Needs basic children's textbooks recommendations

Hello -
 
In learning Arabic as preparation for teaching in Lebanon, I am 
searching for basic children's textbooks-- picture books, basic alphabet 
drills, very (very) simple reading materials.  There is a great deal on 
the Internet, but at this point I don't have acquaintance with the 
language to differentiate among the varied qualities of the materials 
available.
Thanks-
Dr. Susan K. Hedahl

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:47 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:47 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs Dictionary of Military Terms
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Lisa Buckmaster <saxxgod at hotmail.com>
Subject:Needs Dictionary of Military Terms

Can someone recommend to me a dictionary on military terms? The best
case scenario, of course, would be something like a Jane's dictionary,
but Arabic to English or vice-versa.
Thank you,
Lisa

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:31 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:31 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Vocalic Passive response
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Elizabeth Bergman <embergman at earthlink.net>
Subject:Vocalic Passive response

Urban Sudanese (Omdurman) Arabic has a vocalic or ablaut passive.  It is
not
productive, being in use for a closed list of some ten verbs only.  My
notes
are not with me but I can send you the list if you like.  As I recall,
all of
the verbs have to do with injury of some kind (death, destruction by
fire,
animal bites).  A first-language speaker of the variety tells me that the
ablaut passive of Omdurman Arabic is not used, as classical Arabic
grammars
describe it, when the actor is unknown or concealed.  Rather, it implies
that
the patient or grammatical subject of the passive verb is an injured
victim.
Regards,
Elizabeth

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 17 22:18:35 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:18:35 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Searching for Arabic phonology experts
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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:Iyad via aljamiado <iyad at aljamiado.com>
Subject:Searching for Arabic phonology experts

[Please respond directly to the requesters.  They are not list members
and so otherwise will not receive your note.]

Dear Sir,

We are searching for people who are expert in Arabic phonology. We
are going to develop an assessment tool for children in reading Arabic.

with regards,
Maha & Iyad Suleiman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 17 22:18:31 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:18:31 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Request for AATA info, and response
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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:radgrew at pacbell.net
Subject:Request for AATA info

Dear list-members-
Can anyone help me find subscription information for Al-Arabiyya, the
Journal of the American Assoc. of Teachers of Arabic?  Apparently their
website is out of date and the contact information is incorrect.
Thanks,
Mark Pettigrew
NES Dept.
UC Berkeley

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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:moderator
Subject:AATA info

The AATA website is at:

  http://www.wm.edu/aata/

Whenever I forget this, which is often, I just go to google.com, type in
American Association of Teachers of Arabic, and it is the first thing
that pops up.

Once in the site, click on publications and then on Al-Arabiyya to get
subscription info.  At the bottom of this info, you need ot click on
'Click here for more information' to get the contact info on the editor
of Al-Arabiyya, whom you would need to contact about submitting an
article.  It also has the contact info for the book review editor and
for business corresondance.

The AATA web page is a really good resource that all of us should be
checking out, making sure info about our institutions and programs is up
to date (see under programs), and that we know what resources are
available to us.

Dil
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 17 22:18:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:18:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Vocalic Passive Response
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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:enm at umich.edu
Subject:Vocalic Passive Response

Theodore Prochazka, Jr., Saudi Arabian Dialects, Kegan Paul
International, 1988, has a large number of Saudi dialects with internal
passives detailed in Chapter 12. The Passive Verb, pp. 115 - 124.

Ernest McCarus

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 17 22:18:42 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:18:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Military Terms Dictionary Responses
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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:Srpko Lestaric <srpkole at EUnet.yu>
Subject:Military Terms Dictionary Response

Dear Lisa,

Here are some titles:

Badran, Shawqi Muhammad: Pocket book of military terms, English-Arabic.
Cairo: On sale at the Anglo Egyptian Bookshop, 1982.

Beijing Military Science Staff. Dictionary of the Military. French &
European Publications, 1989. Arabic, Chinese, English, French, German,
Russian, Spanish

Danilov, I. S.: Arabsko-russkii i russko-arabskii voennyi slovar. [Arabic
and Russian military dictionary.] Ministerstvo oborony SSSR, Moscow, 
1965.

Kay, Ernest (ed.): Arabic Military Dictionary: English-Arabic,
Arabic-English. Compiled by Multi-Lingual International Publishers Ltd 
under
the general editorship of Ernest Kay. London, Boston: Routledge & Kegan
Paul, 1986.

Kayyali, Maher S.: Modern Military Dictionary: English-Arabic,
Arabic-English. New York: Hippocrene Books, Inc., 1991.

Khattab, Mahmoud Shit (ed.): The Unifying Military Dictionary. al-mu3jam
al-3askari al-muwaHHid. English-Arabic. The Arab Armies Committee for
Unification of Military Terms. lajna tawHiid al-muSTalaHaat al-3askariyya
li-l-juyuush al-3arabiyya. maTaabi3 daar al-ma3aarif bi-maSr, 1970.

Khattab, Mahmoud Shit (ed.): The Unifying Military Dictionary. al-mu3jam
al-3askari al-muwaHHid. Arabic–English. The Arab Armies Committee for
Unification of Military Terms. lajna tawHiid al-muSTalaHaat al-3askariyya
li-l-juyuush al-3arabiyya. maTaabi3 daar al-ma3aarif bi-maSr, 1971.

United States. Army Intelligence Command. A dictionary of military and
technical terminology: Arabic-English. s.l.: United States Army 
Intelligence
Command, 1970.

3abd al-haadi, baahir: muSTalaHaat 3askariyya. Arabic military 
dictionary.
Includes index and English-Arabic glossary. Kuwait: Sharikat al-Rabian,
1982.

mahraan, jamaal al-diin yuunis - [et al.]: al-qaamuus al-3askari 
al-Hadiith.
‘injiliizi-3arabi. Modern Military Dictionary, English-Arabic. Cairo, 
1974.

Good luck,
Srpko Lestaric

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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:"arabictc.com" <atc at arabictc.com>
Subject:Military Terms Dictionary Response

I have the following Dictionary:

Arabic Military Dictionary

E-A (171 pages) and A-E (128 pages)

Published in 1986 by Routledge & Kegan Pual in London
ISBN 0-7102-0458-2

I hope this helps.

Essam Elmahgoop
Certified Arabic Interpreter
San Francisco, California

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3)
Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:enm at umich.edu
Subject:Military Terms Dictionary Response

I can mention A DICTIONARY OF MODERN TECHNICAL TERMS, by Constantine 
Theodory, Dar Al-Kutub Press, Beirut, 1959, an Arabic-English 
dictionary, includes Chapter VIII, Military Phrases and Terms, pp. 152 - 
169.

Ernest McCarus

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4)
Date:  17 Jul 2002
From: Ivar Herlev Soerensen <herlev at mail.dou.dk>
Subject:Military Terms Dictionary Response

I can recommend the following Arabic-English/English-Arabic dictionary of
military terms - somewhat old, but rather functional:

Mahir al-Kiyyali: al-qamus al-'askari al-hadith ('arabi-inklizi,
inklizi-'arabi), mu'assasat al-'arabiya lil-dirasat wal-nashr, Beirut, 
1990
(2. ed.) (or later?)

Best regards

Ivar Herlev Soerensen
Centre for Contemporary Studies
University of Southern Denmark

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:08:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs native informants
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Date:  18 Jul 2002
From:Reiko Vermeulen <r.vermeulen at ucl.ac.uk> [reposted from LINGUIST]
Subject:Needs native informants

Dear Linguists,

I am studying a construction in Modern Standard Arabic, which is
usually, but not always, treated as left-dislocation (Doron & Heycock
1999, Fassi-Fehri 1993, Mohammad 1999).  Examples are given below.

(1)hind-un   yuqa:bilu-ha  -ulla:b-u	
    Hind-nom  meet(3m)-her  the-students(m)-nom
    'Hind, the students are meeting her.'

(2)xaalid-un   ra?aa  sadiiq-u-hu     saalim-an
    Khalid-nom  saw    friend-nom-his  Salim-acc
    'Khalid, his friend saw Salim.'

My particular interest lies in the occurrence of the nominative case
particle un on various constituents and the positions in which these
nominative phrases may appear.  In order to carry out this research, I
need some native speakers of Arabic to help me with some data.  It
would involve occasional judgement and translation queries by e-mail.
If you are willing/able to help, please contact me at the above e-mail
address.

Best regards,
Reiko Vermeulen
University College London, UK

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 18 22:08:58 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:08:58 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Language Testing Job
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Date:  18 Jul 2002
From:zabarahh at georgetown.edu
Subject:Arabic Language Testing Job

JOB ANNOUNCEMENT

Full-time/part-time position available immediately in Arabic language
testing at Second Language Testing, Inc. in North Bethesda MD.
Includes development of listening tests of Arabic colloquial dialects
and a test of Arabic to English written translation skills.  Tasks
include writing scenarios for conversations, supervising recordings,
writing multiple-choice items, translation of conversations, field
testing, scoring, developing a rater training kit, writing reports,
etc.  Flexible hours.  Must be fluent in Arabic and English and at
least one major Arabic dialect.  Computer skills.  Prefer someone in
the field of language testing or translator/interpreter, but an
experienced language teacher who knows the ILR scale would be suitable
also.  Please Email resume to cstansfield at 2LTI.com , or mail to:
Second Language Testing, Inc.
10713 Mist Haven Ter.
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For more information, please call 301-231-6046.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jul 23 22:22:10 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:22:10 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:An on-line Arabic Course
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Date:  23 Jul 2002
From:Walid Farhoud <walid at dalilusa.com>
Subject:An on-line Arabic Course

I invite you to visit the Arabic Course on-line which I developed this 
last year. The response is great.
www.dalilusa.com , Select the Arabic Course. To enter you need a 
Password and a User name.
Please enter “Sample” in both categories. This is a short-term 
complimentary entry.
Your response and/ or comments will be appreciated.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jul 23 22:22:15 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:22:15 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic on Web on Mac query
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Date:  23 Jul 2002
From:Kristin L Sands <kristin.sands at nyu.edu>
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac query

Dear Arabic-L subscribers,

I am trying to help students of mine with MAC computers read Arabic on
the web.  Using the latest operating system, OS10, I have tried the
latest version of Internet Explorer for MACs, as well as Moxilla, but
neither is working.  I see Arabic letters, but the writing is
gibberish.  I spoke to Apple and they told me to wait for OS10.2.
Isn't there some way to read Arabic on the web on a MAC now?

Thanking you in advance,
Kristin Sands

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jul 23 22:22:22 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:22:22 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Needs Old Arab Music recordings
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Date:  23 Jul 2002
From:"G. Borg" <g.borg at let.kun.nl>
Subject:Needs Old Arab Music recordings

Dear list members,
In connection to a project that envisages digital recording and
documentation of traditional Arabic music, I would like to ferret out
details about the possible existence of record archives containing this
kind of music in the Americas. I assume that the distribution of music by
record companies in the first half of the 20th century to immigrants from
the Levant and the activities of Arab radio stations might have left some
traces in wax, bakelite or vinyl.
Best wishes,
Gert Borg,
Nijmegen University,
the Netherlands

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jul 23 22:22:25 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:22:25 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Needs Janes
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Date:  23 Jul 2002
From:GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:Needs Janes

[please respond directly to the requester]

Can anybody suggest a resource to acquire Jane's Dictionary
itself, English or any language is OK. Thanks.

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jul 23 22:22:17 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:22:17 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:aaraabiizi
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Date:  23 Jul 2002
From:"F. Lagrange" <fredlag at noos.fr> (wanadoo)
Subject:aaraabiizi

dear all,
a query for Egyptian members on the list. In Edward al-Kharrat's short
story "taht al-gaami3", in the "Saa3aat al-Kibriyaa'" collection, I find
the following sentence (p12) in colloquial egyptian :

... el-3ayyela di abqa a3mel biiha eeh? ya3ni aakhretha yesiibha fe
aaraabiizi yebqa ya farheti ya hanaaya...

I don't understand "'aaraabiizi". Is it a location in Alexandria? An
orphanage?

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 25 18:21:39 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:39 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs MECAS grammar etc
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Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:amany haroun ahmad <amany33 at hotmail.com>
Subject:Needs MECAS grammar or other books with MLA and English

I am in search of a usable copy of the M.E.C.A.S. Grammar of Modern
Literary
Arabic, first published in Shemlan in 1965.  Major book outlets and my
local
foreign language book shops do not carry it, and it is almost certainly
out
of print.

More importantly, I am very anxious to find any reader or text book that
contains passages in MLA for which English translations are provided
either
immediately after the Arabic or in an available handbook/guide.  Ideal
would
be a collection of newspaper articles that appear both in English and
Arabic. . .Also acceptable would be excerpts and translations from other
modern sources.  A.T. Hassanein's Connectors book has a nice collection,
along these lines, and I have this, but I need more . . .

Many thanks. . .

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 25 18:21:34 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:34 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:After Postmodernism writers query
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Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:amany haroun ahmad <amany33 at hotmail.com>
Subject:After Postmodernism writers query

Dear Arabic-L subscribers,
  Can you help me find out information about 'After post modernism'?
Who are the writers and poets who follow this trend what are the plays 
or poems that can fall under the application of this trend.
please If  you know any information about  'After post modernism' please 
do not hesitate to email me .

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 25 18:21:37 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:37 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:aaraabiizi responses
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4) Subject:aaraabiizi response

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1)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject:aaraabiizi response

fi 'arabiizi: loosely, in this context = with me, in my hair, in my 
face, i.e. annoying

... el-3ayyela di abqa a3mel biiha eeh? ya3ni aakhretha yesiibha fe
aaraabiizi yebqa ya farheti ya hanaaya...

I don't understand "'aaraabiizi". Is it a location in Alexandria? An
orphanage?

The speaker is irritated because the child is being left with him:

What the heck am I going to do with this kid?
Is he at the end of it all now going to leave her in my hair?  Great!

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2)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:Humphrey Davies <hdavies at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:aaraabiizi response

Hinds-Badawi gives:
fi-qarabiiz- (also fi-qarbuuz-) in the area of responsibi lity of, in 
the lap of. HaTTeet il-Hikaaya f-qarabiiz-u I dumped the matter into his 
lap, I left the matter up to him. wiqi' fi-qarbuuz-i It delvolved upon 
me.
 
All the best,
Humphrey Davies

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3)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:khorshid <khorshid at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:aaraabiizi response

"'arabiizi" is not a real thing. The expression yuq9ud/yuqa9 fi 
'arabiizi just
means I'm stuck with it. Compare "yishidd Hailu", where "Hail" is not a 
real
thing.

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4)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:zeinab Ibrahim <zeinabib at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:aaraabiizi response

The expression /yisibhaa fii 'arabiizii/ means that this person will be 
stuck
with whatever s/he is left with.

Zeinab Ibrahim

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:44 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic on Web on Mac responses
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Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:mehalld at georgetown.edu
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

To read Arabic language websites on the Mac, download the ICAB browser
from this address: http://www.icab.de/download.html

Best,
David Mehall

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2)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:"Rahawi, Mohammed" <RahawiM at state.gov>
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

I use mozilla 1.1 and OS 9.2. It works fine for me. You might want to
switch
to OS 9.x when you need to view Arabic pages. Anyway. OS 10.2 is out
and I
was told that it supports Arabic.
Good luck,
Mohammed Rahawi

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3)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:Gregg Reynolds <greynolds at greynolds.com>
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

Mozilla 1.0 works fairly well on my OS X 10.1.5 system (also worked on
10.1.4).  There are a few bugs but it is usable.  For example, a shaping
doesn't work for the occasional headline; it does work for the tab title
string, but not for the window title string.  (A newer (beta) release of
Mozilla claims to have improved arabic shaping.)  The default typesize
is a bit small but www.al-jazeera.com is readable and magnification
works.  You have to get your own fonts.  I got some from the web but I
don't remember where.  Take a look at http://www.arabeyes.org.  Put the
fonts in /Users/<yourid>/Library/Fonts.  Also make sure
Preferences->Navigator->Languages has an entry for Arabic.  Also there
is a "Fonts" section under Preferences->Appearance.  If this isn't
working for you be sure to check your versions.

You can always buy a copy of Virtual PC and run windows software.  I did
this before discovering that Mozilla works ok under OS X.  It runs
pretty slowly, though, and it's not free.  But I expect it will run
substantially faster under 10.2; if you have already invested in
Windows-based software it's worth a look.

Version 10.2 is due out in little more than a month, and apparently will
have full support for Arabic, Hebrew, and other non-latinate and
non-Hanzi writing systems.  Yay!  With this I'd say anybody in the
market for new computing equipment would be insane to buy a windows
machine instead of a Mac (writing as an ex-windows xp user).

Good luck,

Gregg

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4)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:"sattar.izwaini at stud.umist.ac.uk"
<Sattar.Izwaini at student.umist.ac.uk>
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

Hello
Sinbad is a free software by Sakhr that enables you to read Arabic
on Mac. You can download it from on their web site:
www.sakhr.com

Regards
Sattar Izwaini

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5)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

Someone recently said that Netscape works, so I tried it.

I was indeed able to get Arabic, but it's inverted.  So that
if you read al-Ahram online, for Mubarak (in Arabic)
you get karabuM.

Maybe a mirror would help :)

Waheed

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6)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:alijamal at attbi.com
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

The best solution for reading Arabic web pages is to throw the Mac away
and
get a PC. Windows XP has Arabic support built in as an install option.

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:22:23 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs Mustawiyaat in English
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Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:Needs Mustawiyaat in English

A ME history professor here has been asked to teach an Introduction to
the Study of the Middle East class in which he will cover historical,
political science, anthropological, sociological, linguistic, and
humanities oriented approaches to the study of the Middle East.  He is
trying to get 'seminal' but comprehensible articles in each field that
would give students a feel for what kinds of questions are asked in that
approach, and what kinds of data are used to get answers to those
questions.  For the linguistic secton, he would like to have at least
part of the Said Badawi work which I believe is called mustawiyaat
al-'arabiyya al-mu'aaSira fi miSr, in which Badawi lays out his model of
five levels for Arabic in Egypt.  However, these students don't read
Arabic.  Does anyone know if there is an English version of this piece
or of a part of it or a summary of it?  If there isn't, does anyone know
of another piece that either summarizes the ideas, or lays out similar
ideas?  Any help would be appreciated.
Dilworth Parkinson

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 15:59:39 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:59:39 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:mustawiyaat responses
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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Tim Buckwalter <timbuckwalter at bainbridge.net>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Dil:
There is a very good summary (including a diagram of the five levels) in
the
Introduction to the Hinds-Badawi dictionary.
Tim

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2)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:pstevens <pstevens at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Dil,
Your colleague can find a summary by Badawi himself in a festschrift in
honor
of Robert Lado edited by Kurt Jankiwsky, published by Georgetown
University
Press around 1985 or so.

Best regards,

Paul Stevens,
American University in Cairo
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3)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:dparvaz at mac.com
Subject:mustawiyaat response

If memory serves, there is a nice synopsis of this in the front matter
to Badawi's Cairene dictionary. Is more detail required?
Cheers,
Dan.

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4)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:"gwitty at earthlink.net" <gwitty at earthlink.net>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Hi Dil
There's a summary of this in the intro to the Badawi-Hinds dictionary.
It's somewhat technical, but short enough to be digestible for
undergrads...
yours
Gordon

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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:mehalld at georgetown.edu
Subject:mustawiyaat response

This book has not been translated but I deal briefly with the Badawi
paradigm in the first chapter of my Ph.D. dissertation entitled "The verb
morphology of unscripted oral media Arabic," pp. 6-13 and 170-173. This
thesis has been catalogued by the UMI Dissertation Services as Thesis #
7597, dated Nov 5, 1999.  Hope this has been of help.
Best,
David Mehall

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:14:11 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs corpora
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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Iyad via aljamiado <iyad at aljamiado.com>
Subject:Needs corpora

Hi all,

I am searching for Arabic Corpora (Database, Dictionary) and by it I
can =
extract all the words in Arabic that compound from 3 letters with all =
the diacritizers (Harakat): Fatha, Kasra, Damma, Skoon, Shadda.
And if there a statistics about the using percentage of each word.

Thanks,
Iyad

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:14:42 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:14:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:mustawiyaat responses
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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Tim Buckwalter <timbuckwalter at bainbridge.net>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Dil:
There is a very good summary (including a diagram of the five levels) in
the
Introduction to the Hinds-Badawi dictionary.
Tim

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2)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:pstevens <pstevens at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Dil,
Your colleague can find a summary by Badawi himself in a festschrift in
honor
of Robert Lado edited by Kurt Jankiwsky, published by Georgetown
University
Press around 1985 or so.

Best regards,

Paul Stevens,
American University in Cairo
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3)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:dparvaz at mac.com
Subject:mustawiyaat response

If memory serves, there is a nice synopsis of this in the front matter
to Badawi's Cairene dictionary. Is more detail required?
Cheers,
Dan.

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4)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:"gwitty at earthlink.net" <gwitty at earthlink.net>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Hi Dil
There's a summary of this in the intro to the Badawi-Hinds dictionary.
It's somewhat technical, but short enough to be digestible for
undergrads...
yours
Gordon

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5)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:mehalld at georgetown.edu
Subject:mustawiyaat response

This book has not been translated but I deal briefly with the Badawi
paradigm in the first chapter of my Ph.D. dissertation entitled "The verb
morphology of unscripted oral media Arabic," pp. 6-13 and 170-173. This
thesis has been catalogued by the UMI Dissertation Services as Thesis #
7597, dated Nov 5, 1999.  Hope this has been of help.
Best,
David Mehall

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6)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Haruko SAKAEDANI <harukos at aa.tufs.ac.jp>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

1) Badawi, El-S. & Hinds, M. (1986).
      A Dictionary of Egyptian Arabic.  Librairie du Liban, Lebanon.

      They summarize the idea of mustawiyaat al-'arabiyya al-mu'aaSira fi
miSr
      in its Introduction.

2) Bakalla, M.H. (1984).
     Arabic Culture: Through Its Language and Literature.
                          Kegan Paul International Ltd., London.

     He propounds a term "spectroglossia," in which he adds the norm of
     social classes or occupations to think about the language levels.

3) Hary, B. (1996). The Importance of the Language Continuum in Arabic
Multiglossia.
         pp.69- 90 of
         Elgibali, A. (ed.)  (1996).
         Understanding Arabic.  The American University in Cairo Press,
Cairo.

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7)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Reem Bassiouney <reem.bassiouney at somerville.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Dear Dil,
I am not sure Badawi's work has been translated into English.  I have
been working on This topic specifically for my thesis.  A good summary
of Badawi's ideas as well as similar approaches can be found in Modern
Arabic , Clive Holes, published by Longman.  There is also Holes'
article about Nasser's speeches on Perspectives on Arabic Linguistics
(5), 1993.  I think it may also be a good idea to know more about what
came after the theory of intermediate levels.  Since there is alot of
research on this topic that has been written since.  Reem

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:15:00 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:ILI info request
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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Kirk Belnap <rkb at byu.edu>
Subject:ILI info request

One of my students will be working in Egypt this year.  She is
thinking of taking an Egyptian Arabic class offered by the
International Language Institute (ILI).  She looked into the Hedayet
Institute, but her schedule would require a special arrangment that
is beyond her budget.  I'm not familiar with the quality of the ILI
programs and told her I would ask for candid responses from
colleagues.  I would appreciate hearing from someone who knows.

This student already has a good introduction to Egyptian.  She's
looking for a class that she could take from early Sept. to late
Oct.--in case you would recommend some other program in Cairo.

Thanks!

Kirk

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:14:53 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:14:53 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:shidd heelak, aaraabiizi
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3) Subject:shidd heelak again
4) Subject:aaraabiizi

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1)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:"Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:shidd heelak query

[Moderator's note: this posting is a good example of something I would 
like to encourage: continuing an exchange with the individuals involved, 
and then posting the entire exchange.  This has the potential of saving 
time, and of making more sense to the readers. Then if someone has 
something to add, they can do so, but we won't have multiple posts of 
the original answer.  Thanks, Dil]

  What does  /yishidd  Hailu/  mean?  How is it used?

Thanks.                    --Mike Schub

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2)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Michel Naggar <mnaggar at sympatico.ca>
Subject:shidd heelak response

Dear Mike,
yishidd means to pull, Hail is not a real thing. Together, yishidd Hailu 
means
to do his best. If you are preparing for a test or the like, people tell 
you
shidd Hailak. It can also be used as a term of condolance if you lose a 
dear
person.

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3)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:"Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:shidd heelak

  Dear Khorshid,
      Thank you very much.
      The root Hyl is a proto-Semitic root for "strength, power,"
thus "Heile Selassie" in Ethiopic corresponds to proto-Arabic "Hayl al-
thalaatha~the Power of the Trinity."
     Could the origin of yishidd  Heilak be "may your strength be
renewed/increased"??
      Best wishes,
                                      Mike Schub

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4)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Michel Naggar <mnaggar at sympatico.ca>
Subject:arabbeezi

Humphrey Davies' response is very instructive.

While arabbeezi is used in common current speech in the sense everybody
agrees on - abubdantly and clearly given in all responses, it never 
occured
to me that it derived from, even is in the singular form of a word that 
had
a concrete material meaning as well, until I read Humphrey's response.

In the Mu3gam of the Académie de langue arabe in Cairo, it is QARABOUS,
plural QARABIS, and is the saddlebow, i.e. in the lap; which is the 
precise
meaning, and figuratively a responsibility I have no use for.  Of course,
the S and the Z are interchangeable colloqually, like in besella and
bezella, mohandes and mohandez, etc.

Michel Naggar
Montreal

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:15:08 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:15:08 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:MECAS grammar response
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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Susan Hedahl <shedahl at ltsg.edu>
Subject:MECAS grammar response

Responding to the person looking for a MECAS grammar book.  Improbable 
as it sounds, I suggest checking e-Bay. Occasionally they do have texts 
in Arabic and also carry out of print, first edition and collector's 
books.  I recently purchased a hardbound copy of Hans Wehr's dictionary 
on e-Bay for $16.
 
Dr. Susan Karen Hedahl

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:15:04 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:15:04 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Reading Arabic on Mac Browsers
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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:dparvaz at mac.com
Subject:Reading Arabic on Mac Browsers

I tried Mozilla 1.1 (cutting-edge) release in OS X 10.1.5, but the
shaping is still a bit off, and the letter substitutions are a little
unnerving. According to the GIF link I sent the list earlier, Arabic,
Hebrew, and Yiddish (but not Persian!) were covered, in addition to
several languages using Nagari script -- I noticed, Hindi, Marathi, and
Sanskrit. It was unclear if Cyrillic diacritics needed for the proper
representation of USSR-era Tajik orthography were available.

If 10.2 ("Jaguar") has throughly implemented Unicode as advertised, I'm
hoping this extends to the terminal window, so that Lynx, Perl, etc.
behave as they ought with Arabic text. Then I can use my Windows PC as
God intended... for minesweeper :-)

Cheers,

Dan.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:14:16 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:14:16 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:AAAL Call for Papers
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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:"American Association for Applied Linguistics (AAAL) 2003"
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Subject:AAAL Call for Papers

AAAL 2003 deadline is August 26!  Submit now!!

Call for Papers: AAAL 2003

The annual conference of the American Association for Applied Linguistics
(AAAL) will be held March 22-25, 2003 at the Sheraton National Hotel in
Arlington, VA, across the Potomac River from Washington, DC.  Proposals
for presentations related to policy, research, and theory are invited in
any area of applied linguistics. Proposals may be for individual papers,
poster sessions, or colloquia.  The abstract submission and refereeing
process will be paperless this year.  Instructions regarding abstract
preparation and online submission and other aspects of the conference may
be found on the organization's website:

			www.aaal.org/aaal2003/

Proposals may be submitted online until the deadline of August 26, 2002.
Please join us in Arlington for AAAL 2003!


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul  3 22:42:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:42:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Font Restrictions
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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:Elizabeth J. Pyatt <ejp10 at psu.edu>
Subject:Font Restrictions

Hello:

I'm not a lawyer either, so that is why I would NOT modify and
distribute a preexisting font until I checked. You never know which
corporation could be maintaining someone on retainer to sic someone.

Copyright is truly a slippery beast which is why you can change a button
on a dress and not violate copyright, but can't distribute copies of an
out-of-print book without permission.

Anyhow, maybe these links can provides some help for someone

Typeface Protection - <http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/bigelow-
copyright.txt>
Cases involving font copyright -
<http://cgm.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/legal.html>
Fontographer Support Center -
<http://www.macromedia.com/support/fontographer/>


But not being a lawyer myself I'm not 100% certain of the details. Are
you a lawyer with the required specialization in copyright?  Fair use is
a pretty complex area, not nearly as clear-cut as your remarks make it
sound.  Do you represent Microsoft?  If so I'd check with legal before
pronouncing on copyright law.  I would certainly appreciate correction
by competent legal opinion if I've gotten this all wrong.

Fair use is a wonderful thing, but it can only take you so far, even in
education.

Another view on the issue.

Elizabeth

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul  3 22:42:34 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:42:34 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Segmenter and Tagger for Arabic
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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject:Segmenter and Tagger for Arabic

Hi,
    The latest and greatest lexicon, transformation rules for
the tagger and segmenter and about 19000 words of annotated, segmented,
transliterated Arabic text can be obtained during the next month and a
half at the following URL
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~andyf/segmenter/segment_tag.zip
All of the executables run inside of a DOS window on a windoze machine.

Please report all bugs, difficulties and problems you encounter and I
will
try to deal.

After my signature block is the contents of the file segment_tag.readme
have fun,
andy

1.0 Overview
2.0 Transliteration
3.0 Segmenter
  3.1 Options
  3.2 lexicon files
  3.3 segment bigrams file
4.0 Brill's tagger
  4.1 tagger lexicon
  4.2 adding words from the segmenter
  4.3 perl files for extracting unknown words
  4.4 context file
  4.5 training the tagger


1.0 Overview
    The whole point here is to use Brill's tagger to use the
Transformation-based learning machine learning technique to facilitate
the
acquisition of disambiguation rules for doing part of speech tagging for
Arabic.  The point of doing POS tagging for Arabic is
        1) to build a parser,
        2) to annotate a corpus for doing empirical linguistic
research on Arabic,
        3) to provide electronic linguistic resources for Arabic
and
        4) do content-based text processing in Arabic.

    Brills tagger needs to have a lexicon of lexemes with the
allowable tags for that lexeme in the form shown below:
    squat JJ NN VB
    scrutiny NN
    James NNP
    LSO NNP
    missing VBG JJ NN


    As it turns out the Arabic writing system strings together a lot
of independent items that in English orthography are counted as separate.
The value added here is the word segmenter which is a sort of morphology
recognizer.

    The data flow for the system is shown below.  The transliteration
is necessary for two reasons: 1) Brill's tagger is written for ASCII and
2) there are at least two Arabic character sets in common use.


    Arabic text file --> (transliterator) --> (segmenter) --> (tagger)
--> transliterated tagged Arabic text

    Each piece a can be run independantly of every other piece.so a
more complete picture of the data flow would be
    Arabic text file --> (transliterator) --> transliterated Arabic
text
    transliterated Arabic text --> (segmenter) --> segmented and
transliterated Arabic text
    segmented and transliterated Arabic text --> (tagger) -->
transliterated, segmented and tagged Arabic text

    Neither the segmenter nor the tagger is perfect, so each one of
these phases requires a couple of iterations with hand-correction of the
output and/or augmentation of the lexicons between successive runs before
the output will be correct.
/**********************
        ****    Everything runs inside of a DOS window.
*********

****************************************************************/

2.0 Transliteration
    The executable that performs the transliteration is
"arabic_chars.exe"
The following command line switches are supported.
  -1  : transliterate MS-CP1256 text into DATR transliteration scheme\n
      : parm == Query string for Arabic_u.dtr lexicon\n",
      :        default DATR query ==: <voc>\n",
  -2  : change chars in Freeman transliteration into MS-CP1256 text,
  -3  : change chars in MS-CP1256 into Freeman transliteration scheme
      : parm == n if you don't want to strip the English characters
  -4  : change chars in MS-CP1256 into Buckwalter transliteration scheme
      : parm == n if you don't want to strip the English characters
  -5  : change chars in Buckwalter transliteration into MS-CP1256 text
  -6  : change chars in ISO-8859-6 into Buckwalter transliteration
  -7  : change chars in Buckwalter transliteration into ISO-8859-6 text

  Options -1 through -3 can be ignored and will be removed in a later
revision.  The batch file translit.bat contains the following command
line
for transliteratin cp-1256 into Buckwalter transliteration scheme.
    arabic_chars -4 <%1.txt > %1.trnsl
The input file needs to to have a ".txt" extension and the output file
will be given a ".trnsl" extension.
The following command line will transfer cp-1256 into the MAC version of
iso-8859-6
    arabic_chars -4 <%1.txt | arabic_chars -7 > %1.iso_txt

3.0 Segmenter
    The segmenter takes as its input Arabic text that is represented
in the Buckwalter transliteration schema.
  3.1 Options
    There is X option that will output all of the
segmentations/lexemes that are not in the current lexical files. With no
options, the the segmenter will just output the segmentation that it
decides is correct.  This "X" option allows you to simply cut these
lexemes that were not found in the lexicon(s) and after any needed
hand-corrections (there might not be any) paste them into the segmenter
lexicon.

/*****************************************************
**** The segmenter lexicon file needs to be sorted in ASCII ascending
order or nothing will work.
******************************************************************/
   You might want to hang on to this list of lexemes in order to add them
to the tagger's lexicon.
    There are two batch files that will perform these two options:
->segment_X.bat<- which contains the following command line
    seg_arabic X < %1.trnsl > %1.segm

and ->segment.bat<- which contains the following command line
    seg_arabic < %1.trnsl > %1.segm

  3.2 lexicon files
    The following files need to be present before the segmenter will
operate correctly
    small_lexicon_1a.txt            \\ these are all of the
stems that are not
                                    \\
affixal morphology and are not prepositions
                                    \\
must be sorted in ascending order
    arb_rots.lex                    \\ all valid roots
in the language as per Buckwalter
    prep_arabs.translit             \\ all
prepositions
    int inn_wuxt_count              \\ particles that
assign accusative case
    spesh_dict.txt                  \\ a Context-free
rules file for mapping a problematic
                                    \\
orthographic word into its constituent lexemes
    corpus_sorted.bigram            \\ a list of all bigrams
of all text correctly segmented
                                    \\
so far, sorted by count in decreasing order

  3.3 segment bigrams file
    Once you have the input file correctly segmented, cut and paste it
in to the file "corpus_all.segm."  Then you will need to create a new
"corpus_sorted.bigram".  The following two commands will perform this.
    text2wngram -n 2 < corpus_all.segm > corpus_all.bigram
    sort_bigram < corpus_all.bigram > corpus_sorted.bigram

    You may want to create a batch file for this.  There is nothing to
prevent running this all as one command line, i.e.
    text2wngram -n 2 < corpus_all.segm | sort_bigram >
corpus_sorted.bigram

    I personally prefer being able to take a look at the intermediate
file.  I have been keeping all of these files in a different directory
from the one where I am doing all of my annotation work.  So I then need
to copy this file, "corpus_sorted.bigram" back into my working directory.
This directory is named "texts_Folder\combined\segments" and should be
created when you unzip the archive.

4.0 Brill's tagger
    There is a batch file called tag_it.bat that runs the following
command line:
TAGGER.EXE ..\arab_lex.start %1.segm  BIGBIGRAMLIST LEXICALRULEFILE.andy
CNTEXT.andy > %1.tagged

    The following files need to be in the directory in which you run the
tagger:
    BIGBIGRAMLIST, LEXICALRULEFILE.andy CNTEXT.andy, tagger.exe,
start_state_tag.exe, and final_state_tag.exe.
    The file "arab_lex.start" needs to be in the parent directory.  If you
find this annoying, move "arab_lex.start" into the working directory and
change the batch file accordingly.

    Before running the tagger you will probably want to add the new words
that were discovered during the segmentation phase of the process.
  4.1 tagger lexicon
    The "file arab_lex.start" contains the tagger lexicon with entries
of the form
Eryf NNM JJMS
EryqAt NP
Erys NNM
Eskryp JJFS
mwqE NNM JJMS

  4.2 adding words from the segmenter
    Take the lexemes saved from the segmentation phase that you added
to the segmentation lexicon.  You will need to decide the correct tag(s)
for those lexemes.  If more than one tag is possible, place the most
likely tag first in the list of possible tags that follows the lexeme.
For
instance in the example above the lexeme "mwqE" can be either a noun or
an
adjective, but I have decided arbitrarily that the noun tag (NNM) is more
probable.  Now run the batch file tag_it.

  4.3 perl files for extracting unknown words
    There are still likely to be some unknown words.  Unknown words
that cannot be correctly tagged from the context are tagged with either
an
"NN" or an "NNP."  The NNP is for words beginning with a capital letter.
One annoying thing that will be fixed in a later revision is that some of
the letters used in the transliteration scheme overlap with perl's
special
command set.  I need to escape them.  Currently the string "$dyd/NN" will
get extracted as "dyd/NN" because the dollar sign is an anchor for the
regexp stuff.

    There are two batch files "xtract.bat" and "xtractNNP.bat" that
each invoke a perl script for extracting the words tagged with these
"unknown word tags."  If you do not have perl you can do a search for
them
in your text editor.  Take these unknown words, edit them with the
correct
tag and add them to the tagger lexicon "arab_lex.start"  If you have
added
the new words from the segmentation phase there should not be very many
of
these.  Finally, hand check and correct the tagged file.  At this phase I
have typically been seeing 7 or 8 errors in a 600 segment run of text or
just over one per cent of errors.  If you can think of a context rule
that
would fix the error add it to the file "CNTEXT.andy"  The tagger lexicon
file "arab_lex.start" does not need to be sorted.  The contextual rule
file needs to be in rule execution order, i.e. rules later in the file
get
performed later than rules located earlier in the file.
  4.4 context file
    The context file, CNTEXT.andy, currently being used has been
composed entirely by hand.  In the training directory there is a context
file called CONTEXT-RULEFILE that has been created by the training phase
of Brill's tagger.  On my to do list is comparing the performance of the
hand crafted rules file with the performance of the automatically
generated rules.  My hunch is that the hand-crafted rules are still more
accurate than the SW generated rules.
  4.5 training the tagger
    Read the file "readme.training".  There are batch files in the
text_folder\combined\training directory that will help with typing the
long command lines and stuff.  You will need a perl script interpreter.

    If you maintain the directory structure from the compressed
archive file, i.e. texts_Folder\combined with the subdirectories
        segments, taggeds, training, translits

    where there is a file called corpus_all.segm in the segments
directory and a file called corpus_all.tagged in the taggeds directory
AND
these files contain everything tagged and segmented and corrected so far,

>>>>>>>> ******************-----> Then
in the directory "training" you should be able to run batch files by
typing the following batch file commands in the order shown.
wordlist
divide_2
smallword_lst
bigram
lexrule
train_lexic
final_lexic
untag2
make_dummy_corp
learn_cntxt

   Finally, if you want to use these newly generated rules files
CONTEXT-RULEFILE and LEXRULEOUTFILE you need to copy them into your
directory where you are doing your segmenting and tagging and either
rename them or edit the batch file tag_it.bat to make the names match.


Good luck and have fun
andy June 28, 2002

the manouba paper and the ecl paper describe the algorithm of the
segmenter in some detail.  Also the most complete list of the tagset is
given in the file arabic_tags.txt.

The current to do list
1) integrate the tagger and the segmenter lexicons into a single
"database" and mark the difference between the list of verbs and nouns
for
the segmenter, eliminatign trying verb morphology on forms like tfEyl.
2) integrate all executable portions into a single executable with a gui
interface.
3) add unicode support
4) do the tagging and segmenting in the same pass using info from a tag
trigram model to help with the segmenting and the segmentation morphology
to aid in POS tagging.
5) currently I am segmenting, tagging and correcting roughly 600 segments
in about 2 hours.  This means that I could realistically tag about 9,000
words a week, and still have time to do other things.  There is every
indication that as I tag more text, the quicker it goes.  I could
realistically have 500,000 words or more tagged by this time next year.
With any help I am sure I could double that.
6) Start working on a probabilistic chart parser or implement the Collins
parser and start building a tree-bank, using the POS corpus that I am
accumulating.
7) Compare the performance of the hand crafted rules file with the
performance of the automatically generated rules.



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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul  3 22:42:43 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:42:43 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Ta'nafa responses
Message-ID: <WED.3.JUL.2002.164243.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject:Ta'nafa response

Perhaps a little more of a context might be helpful.
Try the following URL :
http://lexicons.sakhr.com/

If the word in question happens to be the Vth form perfect,  tafa33ala:
ta'annafa, then the root would be ANF, for which there are several
meanings.  Otherwise, if indeed Ta'nafah starts with a velarized T,
(Taa'), then I suspect the pattern is fa3lala, root T'NF (Taa', hamza,
nuun, faa'),
for which I have found no entries.

Waheed
===============================
Just for fun, the following is a copy of my (above) response, after being
fixed by my spell checker:

Perhaps a little more of a context might be helpful.
Try the following URL :
http://lexicons.sakhr.com/

If the word in question happens to be the Vetch form perfect,  tafa33ala:
ta'annafa, then the root would be AN, for which there are several
meanings.  Otherwise, if indeed Ta'nafah starts with a valorized T,
(Tea'), then I suspect the pattern is fall, root TEN (Tea', hams, nun,
fax'),
for which I have found no entries.

Waheed
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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:nagwa hedayet <nhedayet at yahoo.com>
Subject:Ta'nafa response

If this is the verb conjugated with th third person sg. fem., I think it
means to look down at doing sth. and refrain from doing it. wa Llaaho
'alam ya Mike

Nagwa Hedayet


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul  3 22:42:50 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:42:50 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic HTML Package response
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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:Arabic HTML Package

Hi Martha,

Sakhr's NasherNet is only $199.00 for this list members (it is listed
at $299.00 on our website). Support is available via email, directly or
through AramediA, to Sakhr's top technical support team. They usually
respond within 24 working hours. Using a calling card, you may reach
them for pennies a minute on the telephone, that's much less than
the 900 number charged by reputable US software vendors.

NasherNet is "three tools in one" package: Web Editor, Publisher, and
Manager.? http://www.aramedia.com/nasher.htm

MS Arabic Office XP, including a trial FrontPage 2002 version, and MS
Arabic Word 2000 are also available at AramediA. As always, Arabic-L
subscribers get some discount.

George N. Hallak
http://www.aramedia.com
http://www.arabicsoftware.net
617-825-3044 Fax 617-265-9648

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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:waleed at talk21.com
Subject:Arabic HTML Package

Greetings to the desert in Tucson,

Dreamweaver is not particularly designed to support Arabic text, though
if you visit Macromedia's website you will find a patch that can make
you write script from right to left. As you might have guessed it it is
not the easiest to use nor does it produce the best results.

However, as is always the case with the Arab adverturers that have
always defied the odds there is a way around this that enables you to
enlist the capabilities of probably the best web design programme in the
market.


It is all at the top of the html code. If you write in the tag that the
HTML language is ARABIC then the programme has no problems with it. It
will publish the site on the net in Arabic but it won't display it in
its window in Arabic. What you will see is the usual extraterrestrial
code that nobody understands.

My suggestion is then not to write the Arabic text directly into
Dreamweaver but to cut and paste the text from any word processor. The
only thing to pay particular attention to when doing this is to make
sure that the operating system you are using is totally Arabic enabled,
otherwise the text that you cut from the word processor will get messed
up in the clipboad and will be pasted in Dreamweaver in a language that
no-one on this earth knows (except our alien friends).

Here are some (place before the 'head' tag) I sucessfully used:
1=<html  lang="AR">
2=<html>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1256">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="ar-sa">
3=
<html dir="rtl">

<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1256">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="ar-sa">

Best of luck,
Dr. Waleed Al-Amri

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul  3 22:42:30 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 16:42:30 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Diss on Inchoatives
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Date:  03 Jul 2002
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:Diss on Inchoatives

New Dissertation Abstract

Institution: University of Pittsburgh
Program: Department of General Linguistics
Dissertation Status: Completed
Degree Date: 1989

Author: Abduljawad T. Mahmoud

Dissertation Title:
A Contrastive Study of Middle and Inchoative Alternations in Arabic and English

Linguistic Field:
Syntax, Semantics, Morphology, Lexicography

Subject Language:
English, Arabic, Standard

Dissertation Director 1: Lori Levin
Dissertation Director 2: Sarah Thomason
Dissertation Director 3: Richmond Thomason


Dissertation Abstract:

This study presents a detailed analysis of the semantic, syntactic and
morphological features of the middle and inchoative (unaccusative)
alternations in Arabic and English. The issue of the middle/
unaccusative contrast and the question of whether middles constitute a
semantically and syntactically uniform class are also addressed. On
the basis of this analysis, a new typology of the middle and
unaccusative verbs in the two languages has been proposed.  In
addition to the semantic properties and the syntactic behavior of
these verbs, this typology is conditioned by some contextual and
pragmatic factors. The following are the main conclusions of this
study: (i) Given the class of the unmarked unaccusatives and the class
of the morphological intransitives, the morphological condition for
the formation of Arabic unaccusatives is neither necessary nor
sufficient. (ii) Unlike English, Arabic does not have semantic or
syntactic restrictions analogous to those that distinguish the
English middles from unaccusatives. (iii) The English verbs known un
the literature as middles do not constitute a semantically or
syntactically uniform class. (iv) Despite the fact that Arabic and
English are typologically different and genetically unrelated, the two
languages exhibit significant similarities with respect to the
semantic and syntactic properties of the middle and unaccusative
alternations.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jul  5 20:40:24 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:40:24 -0600
Subject: film showing policy
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JUL.2002.144024.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

To make you aware of a policay matter I recently learned about:

When a club associated with our department (Japan Club for example) wants to show a film, even if it is just a video, if it is only for entertainment, then we will owe money to the makers of the film.  The only way we can show it for free is:

1) if there is an educational purpuse;

and more importantly,

2) if we limit the showing to members of the club only.

This means that you can't really put signs up around campus inviting everyone to see your film.  You can only really invite members.  If you have questions about this, please see the University General Counsel, who will counsel you not to show films at all.

Dil


From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jul  5 20:47:33 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 14:47:33 -0600
Subject: Written Objectives for Each Major
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JUL.2002.144733.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

Guess what?
We have been asked to develop, by the end of summer.  This will allow the college and university curriculum councils to evaluated requests for program changes in light of program aims, and it should "assist departments in evaluating and plannign major requirements.'  It will also help us 'inch our way forward into the culture of assessment,' a culture that will be assumed at our next accreditation visit.

You remember assessment?  Well, it hasn't gone away yet.

I am going to have Cally put a sample (from Electrical Engineering) in each of your boxes.  I need the section heads of Chinese, Japanese and Korean to come up with something.  We can discuss it at our meetings the end of August, but you should at least have a good draft by them, because by the end of that week, I need to turn them in.
Dil


From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Jul  5 22:49:07 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2002 16:49:07 -0600
Subject: inadvertant mailing
Message-ID: <FRI.5.JUL.2002.164907.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

Somehow the address list for my department got mixed up with the Arabic-L address list, so you all got two (or more?) messages I was supposed to be sending to the department. Sorry about that!
Dil


From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul  8 22:47:16 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:47:16 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Mac OS X Arabic at last
Message-ID: <MON.8.JUL.2002.164716.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  08 Jul 2002
From:Dan Parvaz <dparvaz at unm.edu>ara
Subject:Mac OS X Arabic at last (almost)

It would appear that OS X is finally coming through in their support for
RTL text. Not only is there this message in Thinksecret:

Will Jaguar include support for Hebrew and Arabic?

Yes! In the latest pre-release builds of Jaguar, the Keyboard menu
includes a
variety of new languages, including Hebrew and Arabic. Right-to-left
typing
support is there, at last, and those languages are also a part of the
Language
tab in the International section of System Preferences.

There is also a screen shot of the language selection, as well:

http://homepage.mac.com/alqahtani/OSX-Arabic.jpg

Cheers,

Dan.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul  8 22:47:19 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:47:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Translation job
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Date:  08 Jul 2002
From:Muhammad S Eissa <eissa at umich.edu>
Subject:Translation job

                 The message below was posted by one of the students at
the University of Michigan. I thought it might be helpful to bring it to
your attention. Please reply to the person whose name and telephone
number included in the message. I only know the student who posted the
message but have no knowledge of the person requesting the job. This is
a disclaimer.

I am looking for someone to translate a lengthy psych survey from
English
to Arabic (over 100 pages).  I need someone who types Arabic
proficiently
and is qualified with a strong command of Arabic (native speakers
strongly
preferred).  Arabic software will be provided. Contact Hamada Hamid
immediately if interested and qualified. (734) 662-2092

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul  8 22:47:18 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:47:18 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs compositions by Arabic students
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Date:  08 Jul 2002
From:Meriem Sahli <meriem at mail.dk>
Subject:Needs compositions by Arabic students

  I am writing an MA dissertation where I try to describe text
development and cohesion in compositions written by Arab students in
Arabic and English. -I have not limited my topic yet, I am still reading
the literature-I want to extend my study to compositions written by
native speakers of English who also can write in Arabic. I need some
compositions written by this group of students, but I don't know how to
get hold of such data. I don't teach Arabic to this  group of students,
do you have any idea who might help me with this? What level should the
native speakers of English have to be able to write a composition in
Arabic? I intend to use topics used for the TOEFL exams, the ones on the
internet. The two topics are going to be argumentative.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Meriem Sahli

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul  8 22:47:20 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 16:47:20 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Ta'nafa Conclusion
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Date:  08 Jul 2002
From:"Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:Ta'nafa is really Taa'ifa
Dear Friends,

      Thank you for your help with  */Ta'nafah/, which appears toward the
end of page 150, Vol. I of M. A. F. Ibrahim's recent (?) edition of
Suyuti's  *Itqaan.* (Cairo)
      I have finally gotten off my duff (a type of tambourine I sit
on next to my laurels), and checked the 1951 Cairo edition (p. 52 mid),
and it has the correct  /Ta'ifah/ in place of the misprint above.
      Best wishes,
                                       Mike Schub (De los reyes taifas.)

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Date:  08 Jul 2002
From:Michel Naggar <mnaggar at sympatico.ca>
Subject:Ta'nafa response

As Nagwa Hedayat wrote, it is indeed to look down on something and reject
it.
The stem is surely ANF=nose. One usually looks down upon something,
manifesting a mild disgust or disdain, by raising one's nose as if to
avoid
a foul smell. Curiously, one would say in French: lever le nez!

We also have the verse of (was it Al Nabigha) who said praising the
Ghassanides: Shummu-L unufi mina-L tirazi_L awwali.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 10 14:21:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:21:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:NCOLCTL Small Grants
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Date:  10 Jul 2002
From:[reposted from LINGUIST]
Subject:NCOLCTL Small Grants

Date:  Mon, 8 Jul 2002 11:17:43 -0400
From:  "McGinnis, Scott" <smcginnis at nflc.org>
Subject:  FINAL call for proposals: NCOLCTL mini-grant competition --
DEADLINE          FOR APPLICATIONS 12 JULY

Scott McGinnis
Executive Director
National Council of Organizations of Less Commonly Taught Languages

Associate, LCTLs
National Foreign Language Center
7100 Baltimore Avenue, Suite 410
College Park, MD 20740
Voice: 301-403-1750 x35       Fax: 301-403-1754
E-mail: smcginnis at nflc.org OR sm167 at umail.umd.edu
WWW: www.councilnet.org OR www.nflc.org

Small Grants Available for the Less Commonly Taught Languages

The National Council of Organizations of Less Commonly Taught
Languages (NCOLCTL) is pleased to announce a competition for
mini-grants.  Both individuals and LCTL organizations are encouraged
to submit proposals.  The mini-grants, non-renewable and not to exceed
$2000, must be used for projects that promote field building in the
Less Commonly Taught Languages, such as contributing to the Council's
annual conference.  Purposes for which the grants may be used include
the following:

- travel to a conference in order to make a presentation about
language pedagogy or materials development
- preparation for publication of a field analysis by an organization
of NCOLCTL
- attending a workshop or institute aimed specifically at LCTL
pedagogy or materials
- provision of partial support for a guest presenter at a workshop or
meeting for teachers of a particular LCTL.

Application criteria: Individuals who apply must be actively involved
in LCTL education and be members of a LCTL organization that is a
member of the Council, or work in a LCTL that does not belong to any
language organization.  Proposals should include: (a) the name(s) and
qualifications of project member(s) submitting the proposal; (b) a
2-page, double-spaced project description with a statement of project
need and how the funds will be used, including any "product" to be
produced under the grant; and (c) a timeline for completion.

Applications will be strengthened by the inclusion of letters of
support from the individual's institution and/or a NCOLCTL member
organization. Preference will be given to projects involving
collaboration among individuals in two or more LCTLs.

Successful applicants will be required to submit a brief final report
describing how the grant was spent, the results of the project, and a
copy of any product stemming from the project.

Composition of the Screening Committee: The mini-grant screening
committee will be chaired by the Vice President of the Council and
will consist of one Council At-Large representative and one Council
representative selected by the President.  The committee will
represent balance among language areas and organizational size.

Deadline: Proposal submissions must be received by July 12, 2002. Each
committee member will rank order the proposals from strongest to
weakest and the vice president will send this ranking to the Executive
Director, who will notify the winning proposals by no later than July
29.  The committee is empowered to suggest funding proposals at a
level less than requested.

Address for submissions: Proposals may be submitted via U.S. Mail, fax
or electronic mail to:

                                     Scott McGinnis, Executive Director
                                     NCOLCTL
                                     National Foreign Language Center
                                     7100 Baltimore Avenue, Suite 410
                                     College Park, MD  20740
                                     Voice:  301-403-1750 x35
                                     Fax:      301-403-1754
                                     e-mail:  smcginnis at nflc.org

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 10 14:21:36 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:21:36 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:What is going rate for translation query
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Date:  10 Jul 2002
From:suma99 at att.net
Subject:What is going rate for translation query

I have a question.
What should I expect to be paid for a translation job?
Arabic to English.
Should the rate be any different for a business letter
or official document of a few pages.
And what about for a book?
$$$s by page, or by number of words, or by time, or size
of whole job???
Please help

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 10 14:21:39 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:21:39 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Afnushi query
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Date:  10 Jul 2002
From:Safa Jubran <safa.alferd at terra.com.br>
Subject:Afnushi query

Mahfuz (Naguib) in his novel Miramar, uses " the women of Afnushi", what
does this mean? I need some help, thanks.
safa

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 10 14:21:43 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:21:43 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs Reviewer for Sudanese Arabic mnscpt
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Date:  10 Jul 2002
From:Elizabeth Bergman <embergman at earthlink.net>
Subject:Needs Reviewer for Sudanese Arabic mnscpt

I am looking for someone to review a manuscript on urban Sudanese Arabic.
This the variety spoken in the Omdurman-Khartoum area, rather than the
creole
or creolized Arabic varieties of the west and south.  The ideal reviewer
would
have relatively recent research and/or publication in this variety.

Please respond directly to:
embergman at earthlink.net

With thanks, Elizabeth

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 10 14:21:41 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 08:21:41 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs Arabic Linguistic Terminology
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Date:  10 Jul 2002
From:Zohra Mimouni <mimouniz at magellan.umontreal.ca>
Subject:Needs Arabic Linguistic Terminology

Our research team is in the process of completing a computerized
language assessment battery to conduct rehabilitation and assessment of
Arabic-speaking patients with acquired reading disorders. For the Arabic
interface we need the Arabic terms corresponding to the  English:
distractor-input-output-semantics-semantic-target-morphology-morphological-open
class-closed class-consonant-vowel-word/picture
matching-syllable-imageable-syntactic structure-cleft
sentence-keyboard-concreteness
level-prefix-suffix-affix-nonword-template-pseudo prefix-

Could any one help or refer us to an English-Arabic or French-Arabic
dictionary of linguistic terms.
Thanks
--
Zohra Mimouni, Ph.D.
Chercheure Associ?e
Centre de recherche, Institut universitaire de g?riatrie de Montr?al
Universit? de Montr?al et C?gep Montmorency

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 11 15:06:17 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:17 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Issue of Linguistic Research
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Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:abderrezzak tourabi <atourabi at hotmail.com>
Subject:New Issue of Linguistic Research

Linguistic Research
Director: Abdelkader Fassi Fehri
Published by The Institute for the Study and Research on Arabization, 
Rabat-Morocco
ISSN: 113-741X

Volume 7, N? 1, May 2002

Pr?sentation
Editorial Statement

Fassi Fehri, Abdelkader
The Syntax of Arabic Time????????????????????????????????????????

Pawel Rutkowski
The Syntax of Quantifier Phrases and the???????????????
Inherent vs.Structural Case Distinction

Articles in Arabic
??
Lachheb, Khalid
?insaa?-u qaacidat-i muctayaat-in mafhuumimyy-a: xutuwaat-un 
manhajiyyat-un wa tajriib


Terminologie / Terminology


Fassi Fehri, Abdelkader
A Lexicon of linguistic terms
Lexique de terminologie linguistique -I-

Fassi Fehri, Abdelkader
Lexique arabe multidialectal??
The Multidialectal Arabic Lexicon -B-

For subscription information please contact:
Abdelkader Fassi Fehri
Institute for the Study and Research on Arabization
All El Fassi Avenue, B.P. 6216, Agdal-Rabat (Institute) Morocco
Fax: (212) 37 77 20 65
?
?Abderre

zzak Tourabi

Institute for Studies and Research on Arabization

B.P. 6216 Rabat -Institutes? Agdal? Morocco

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 11 15:06:22 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:22 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Its' Anfushi
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5) Subject:Its' Anfushi
6) Subject:Its' Anfushi

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1)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Adrian Gully <A.J.Gully at exeter.ac.uk>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

Without seeing the text I would say that this is almost
certainly a reference to Anfushi (probably not Afnushi in
the text although I could be wrong), an important and very
interesting area of the city of Alexandria, Egypt. The
novel you mention is set in Alexandria if my memory serves
me correctly. I would not wish to incriminate myself
by hazarding a guess at the historical or even the
sociological significance of the reference, but Mahfouz
probably had something very particular in mind.

Adrian Gully, Prof. of Arabic Studies
IAIS, University of Exeter, UK

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2)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Muhammad S Eissa <eissa at umich.edu>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

> Mahfuz (Naguib) in his novel Miramar, uses " the women of Afnushi", what
> does this mean? I need some help, thanks.
> safa

It seems that whatever version of Miramar you are reading has a typo of
the name. It is the women of ANFUSHI not Afnushi. ANFUSHI is a very
famous and old inner city quarter in the west side of Alexandria. During
the historical period of the novel it was highly populated with
fishermen and is still famous for its great fish restaurants.  Women of
Anfushi used to be seen on the beaches of this quarter swimming with
their children while wearing their regular clothes; as if swimming suits
were not allowed. You can see that even today in that and other quarters
of Alexandria.

Muhammad S. Eissa, Ph. D.
Department of Near Eastern Studies,
University of Michigan,
2097 Frieze Building,
Ann Arbor, MI 48109

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3)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Antonio Gim?nez <huesteantigua at yahoo.es>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

Maybe "Afnushi" is just a misprint for Anfushi, the well-known district 
in
Alexandria.

Antonio Gim?nez
huesteantigua at yahoo.es

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4)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Michel Naggar <mnaggar at sympatico.ca>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

The women of Anfoushi.

There is a misprint in the query: it is ANFUSHI and not Afnushi.  
Anfushi is
a well known popular neighbourhood in the city of Alexandria. Many
neighbourhoods in Alexandria have inspired writers and painters. Bahari 
is
another neighbourhood that made men's imagination fly: there are the 
famous
Banat Bahari (Bahari's maidens). There is even El Kharrat's Banat
Iskendereyya!

Hope this helps,
Michel Naggar

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5)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:zeinab Ibrahim <zeinabib at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

Is it Afnushi or Anfushi? Anfushi is a low class area in Alexandria.
Zeinab

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6)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Reem Bassiouney <reem.bassiouney at somerville.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject:Its' Anfushi

Afnushi, should be spelled as Anfushi and it is an old district in 
Alexandria, near the old fishing town area of Alexandria. I hope this is 
helpful.
Reem Bassiouney
Somerville college
Oxford

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 11 15:06:21 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:21 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:The going rate responses
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Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:The going rate response

Hello,

It is very difficult to find a posted rate in the United States.  
Translators
and agencies are cagey about it.  It seems there were some court cases 
about
translators price fixing, part of the complaint about which had involved 
the
posting of rates.  I don't know how that worked exactly.  Seems odd to 
me.

Translation agencies in England will post their rates, which vary by 
language
pair, Arabic/English being on the high end.  It costs more to translate 
into
Arabic than out of Arabic.  That is directly related to the poverty of
technical terminology in Arabic and the lack of standardization of
terminologies where they do exist.  (This raises the question, What 
exactly do
we mean when we say "Standard Arabic"?)

British rates are close to those paid to translators by international
organizations, which are in the range from $150 to $170 per 1000 words.

That is on the high end of things and it reflects the complexity and
sensitivity of the documents translated.

Freelance translators often will negotiate a reduced rate for bulk 
projects
(like books) and may charge lower rates for less complex texts (like 
business
letters) and standard forms (like birth certificates, college diplomas, 
etc.)
Legal and other highly technical texts should rightly command the higher
price.

In Cairo you might find good translators asking around $55 to $60 per 
1000
words.  In my opinion, they are selling themselves too cheaply.

David Wilmsen
Director, Arabic and Translation Studies
The American University in Cairo
28 Falaki Street
Bab El-Louk
Cairo, Egypt
tel:  2 02 7976872
fax:  2 02 7957565

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2)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:GSalib at aol.com
Subject:The going rate response

For a book, I get paid? $0.15 per word.
Galila

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3)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Raji Rammuny <raram at umich.edu>
Subject:The going rate response

Regarding translation fees by page: As coordinator of the Great Books of 
Islamic Civilization translation project, we pay $35 per page of about 
200 words, $40 for a page of 200-250, $45 for a page of 250-300 and $50  
for a page of 300-350 and so on. Best,
Raji Rammuny

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4)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Mutarjm at aol.com
Subject:The going rate response

Greetings / TaHaiya tayyiba wa b3ad...

Hiyaakum Allah jamii3aan...

Re your post on ARABIC-L list

Please send details of your situation and questions.

o  Avoid falling into the trap of a "per word" rate... kaaritha khatiira.

        That method of developing a quote may sound convenient and neat, 
but
it effectively is very unrealistic in terms of the actual time and 
effort you
invest to do a good translation (plus have someone nearby review and 
edit the
draft, time allowing).

        Using a "per word" rate is somewhat comparable to asking an 
architect
to quote for designing and building a house according to the numbers of
boards, bricks, sidewalls and nails used in the structure.

o   A quote should be based on your examination of the source document
(assuming that is available) and assessment of various factors of the 
entire
cycle for production, such as:

==  subject matter - is it familiar or will you have to start learning a 
new
subject and bilingual vocabulary (which takes your time away from other
business to do)?

==  is the subject simple (birth certificates, diplomas. official forms) 
or
complex (legal, commercial, contractual, technical, passport pages)

==   what is the desired format: Arabic MS Word, PDF, RTF, EPS
        (NOTE:  If the client wants the product formatted in Arabic MS 
Word,
insure that the client or the end user/recipient has a PC with 
compatible or
compliant OS, such as MS Windows 2000 or XP (which both include good 
Arabic
support in the "regional settings" feature) and MS Office 97/2000/XP.)

==  is this a "text-only" translation (fairly straightforward) or does 
the
source document have a layout that effectively requires you to make 
identical
layout and DTP (passport  pages and other structured forms)

==  how much time will you need to do this?

==  when / how soon does the client want delivery (determine and tell the
client what are your additional charges for rush/urgent/weekend service)?

== what is the client's budget allocated for this production and 
scheduled
delivery? What is the client's method of payment?
      (Avoid the low rates offered for projects that appear on < 
www.proz.com >
, as you usually will have a long wait before you get paid.)

== set a minimum rate per page. FYI, a typical page of English text 
equals
240 words; the "word expansion factor" for into-Arabic translation
approximates: +20%

(The method, greatly summarized above, is called "activity-based 
costing,"
details on request.)

If a prospective client is unwilling to provide the source document to 
you
for your examination and assessment before you develop a quote and 
schedule
and undertake the project, decline the job.

Hope these points help you establish your successful business presence. 
How
and where do you market your services?

Good luck.  Khair, in sha' Allah.

Regards from San Pedro (Los Angeles Harbor Area)

Stephen H. Franke

e-mail: < mutarjm at aol.com >

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 11 15:06:19 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Vocalic Passive Query and Address query
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Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Sami Boudelaa <sami.boudelaa at mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk>
Subject:Vocalic Passive Query and Address query

-Does anybody out there know the email address of Hamza Al-Mozainy?

?-Does anybody know of an Arabic dialect that codes the active/passive 
distinction in the vocalic melody of the verb as is the case in Standard 
Arabic (e.g. [katam/kutim] hide/be hidden)?

Thanks
Sami

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 09:06:18 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:Terminology and Composition replies
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1)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject:Terminology Reply

Hi all,

    There are a couple of Arabic - English and English - Arabic linguistic
terminology dictionaries around.  At least one from "Libairie du Liban"
(is spelling right?).  I don't have the titles or publication dates at my
fingertips, but I do remember that the different dictionaries will not
always agree on a common terminology for many terms.

    I can only conclude that this terminology can vary in the different
Arab states.  I also think that many experts in the Arab world have
learned linguistics using textbooks written in French or English and may
not even use Arabic terminology when talking about linguistics.

    Please correct me if I my knowledge is not right.

cheers,
Andy

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2)
Date:  11 Jul 2002
From:Raji Rammuny <raram at umich.edu>
Subject:Composition Reply

I can help you after I get settled in my new office. I'll send you two
articles dealing with analysis of actual errors made by American
students learning Arabic and Arab students learning English. I have also
collected over the past 3-4 years actual errors made by American
students taking advanced Arabic composition at UM. I'll be glad to
provide you with samples of these errors, too. Best,

Raji Rammuny

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:16:40 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:16:40 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Thanks for Ahfushi help
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Safa Jubran <safa.alferd at terra.com.br>
Subject:Thanks for Ahfushi help

I want to thnak all the friends that helped me to understand "Anfushi."
thank?s a lot
Safa

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Advanced Islam texts query
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Dil Parkinson <dil at byu.edu
Subject:Advanced Islam texts query

[I tried posting this to Arabic-Info, but they are apparently on
vacation, and I'm being pressured to come up with an answer.  Can anyone
help?]

Our university has decided to beef up it's offerings on Islam.  We have
a beginning course in the Religion department, and courses in Islamic
History, and Islamic Humanities, Islamic Art (and Middle East Geography
and Political Science).  We are looking to add an advanced upper
division course in Modern Islam that would hopefully cover the various
manifestations of Islam in the modern world, everything from Islamic
banking, to the various fundamentalist movements, to the way it is
practiced in various countries, to Islam in the West.  We are looking
for one or more textbooks that would be appropriate for such a course.
The assumption is that the students would have had one or more beginning
courses and would have read an introductory level book that dealt with
Islam from the time of Muhammad.  Does anyone have any suggestions of
more advanced or targetted books that might fill our need?
Thanks.
Dil Parkinson
<dil at byu.edu>

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:23 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:23 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:CASA Job
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1)
Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:"Teresa J. Blount" <tblount at LearnLink.Emory.Edu>
Subject:CASA Job

Position Opening

Executive Director
of the Center for Arabic Study Abroad (CASA)
in Cairo, Egypt

Deadline:  October 15, 2002

The Center for Arabic Study Abroad (CASA) announces an opening for the
position of Executive Director at the American University in Cairo
(AUC).  CASA represents a consortium of twenty-three American
universities and offers intensive advanced summer and full-year programs
in Arabic for American college students and faculty.  The CASA Stateside
office is currently located at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia. A
detailed description of CASA and its various programs is available at
www.emory.edu/COLLEGE/CASA.

The CASA Executive Director is responsible for:
Managing the CASA office and its budgets at AUC
Curriculum, instructional materials, and test development
Some teaching of CASA classes
Faculty supervision
Student counseling
Liaison with AUC and the CASA Stateside office

The Executive Director holds an appointment on the AUC faculty at a rank
and salary appropriate to his or her qualifications.  The appointment
shall be for a minimum of two years (renewable), beginning June 2003.

Required Qualifications:
Advanced degree (Ph.D. preferred) in Arabic/Middle Eastern Studies
Strong background in language pedagogy
Professional-level competence in Arabic
Experience in teaching advanced Arabic classes
Experience in curriculum & material development and testing
Administrative experience

PLEASE SEND APPLICATION LETTERS WITH A COMPLETE C.V. AND THREE LETTERS
OF REFERENCE BY OCTOBER 15, 2002 TO:

Mahmoud Al-Batal, Director
Center for Arabic Study Abroad (CASA)
1385 Oxford Road, Emory University
Atlanta, GA. 30322
Tel:  (404)727-2575
Fax: (404)727-6178

THE CENTER FOR ARABIC STUDY ABROAD (CASA)
IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:26 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:26 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Linguistic Terminology Dictionaries Responses
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1)
Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Safa Jubran <safa.alferd at terra.com.br>
Subject:Linguistic Terminology Dictionaries Response

I have here a list, hope it would help:
?
Mseddi, Abdessalem. Dictionaire de linguistique.Maison arabe dsu livre, 
1984
?
Unified dictionary of linguistics terms (english-arabic french), 1989 
Tunis.
?
Khalil Ahmad Khalil. Mu' jam almustalahat allughawiyya, Beirute. Dar 
Alfikr, 1995
?
Barak?, Bassem. Dictionaire de linguistique (fran?ais- arabe)
Beirut, Jarrouss press
?
Comittee od arabe linguists. A dictionary of modern linguisti terms. 
Libraire du Liban
?
Mubarak, Mubarak. Mu'jam almustalahat al-alsaniyya. Fransi, arabi, 
Ingliisy) Dar al-fikr al-lubnany.
?
Safa

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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Tom Davey <tomdavey at earthlink.net>
Subject:Linguistic Terminology Dictionaries Response

Hello,
?
The name of the book mentioned is:
"The Monitor: A Dictionary of Arabic Grammatical Terms", compiled by
Pierre Cachia, University of Edinburg. Librairie du Liban, Beirut.
First published in 1973.
?
I hope this helps.
Tom Davey

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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Ashraf <ashraf_m30 at hotmail.com>
Subject:Linguistic Terminology Dictionaries Response

??? There are several Arabic - English/French and English/French - 
Arabic dictionaries of linguistic terms.
In this moment, I can remember the following dictionaries:
- Al-Khuli, Dr Muhammad Ali : A dictionary of theoretical linguistics, 
Library of Liban, Beirut, first edition 1982.
- Al-Khuli, Dr Muhammad Ali : A dictionary of applied linguistics, 
Library of Liban, Beirut.
-?Abdessalam Mseddi, Dictionnaire de linguistique. Maison Arabe Du 
Livre, 1984.
- Baalbaki, Ramzi Munir: Dictionary of linguistic terms, Dar-El-Ilm 
Lilmalayin, Beirut, first published, June 1990.
?
Best regards,
?
Ashraf Muhammad
Cairo University

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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:29 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:AAAL Conference
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:National Foreign Language Resource Center <aaal2003 at hawaii.edu>
Subject:AAAL Conference

Call for Papers: AAAL 2003

The annual conference of the American Association for Applied Linguistics
(AAAL) will be held March 22-25, 2003 at the Sheraton National Hotel in
Arlington, VA, across the Potomac River from Washington, DC.  Proposals
for presentations related to policy, research, and theory are invited in
any area of applied linguistics. Proposals may be for individual papers,
poster sessions, or colloquia.  The abstract submission and refereeing
process will be paperless this year.  Instructions regarding abstract
preparation and online submission and other aspects of the conference may
be found on the organization's website:

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Proposals may be submitted online from now until the deadline of August
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:43 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Thanks for Ahfushi help
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Safa Jubran <safa.alferd at terra.com.br>
Subject:Thanks for Ahfushi help

I want to thnak all the friends that helped me to understand "Anfushi."
thank?s a lot
Safa

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:35 2002
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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:35 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs basic children's textbooks recommendations
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:"Susan K. Hedahl" <shedahl at ltsg.edu>
Subject:Needs basic children's textbooks recommendations

Hello -
?
In learning Arabic as preparation for teaching in Lebanon, I am 
searching for basic children's textbooks-- picture books, basic alphabet 
drills, very (very) simple reading materials.? There is a great deal on 
the Internet, but at this point I don't have acquaintance with the 
language to differentiate among the varied qualities of the materials 
available.
Thanks-
Dr. Susan K. Hedahl

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:47 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:47 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs Dictionary of Military Terms
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Lisa Buckmaster <saxxgod at hotmail.com>
Subject:Needs Dictionary of Military Terms

Can someone recommend to me a dictionary on military terms? The best
case scenario, of course, would be something like a Jane's dictionary,
but Arabic to English or vice-versa.
Thank you,
Lisa

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Mon Jul 15 19:30:31 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:31 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Vocalic Passive response
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Date:  15 Jul 2002
From:Elizabeth Bergman <embergman at earthlink.net>
Subject:Vocalic Passive response

Urban Sudanese (Omdurman) Arabic has a vocalic or ablaut passive.  It is
not
productive, being in use for a closed list of some ten verbs only.  My
notes
are not with me but I can send you the list if you like.  As I recall,
all of
the verbs have to do with injury of some kind (death, destruction by
fire,
animal bites).  A first-language speaker of the variety tells me that the
ablaut passive of Omdurman Arabic is not used, as classical Arabic
grammars
describe it, when the actor is unknown or concealed.  Rather, it implies
that
the patient or grammatical subject of the passive verb is an injured
victim.
Regards,
Elizabeth

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 17 22:18:35 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:18:35 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Searching for Arabic phonology experts
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Subject:Searching for Arabic phonology experts

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Dear Sir,

We are searching for people who are expert in Arabic phonology. We
are going to develop an assessment tool for children in reading Arabic.

with regards,
Maha & Iyad Suleiman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 17 22:18:31 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:18:31 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Request for AATA info, and response
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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:radgrew at pacbell.net
Subject:Request for AATA info

Dear list-members-
Can anyone help me find subscription information for Al-Arabiyya, the
Journal of the American Assoc. of Teachers of Arabic?  Apparently their
website is out of date and the contact information is incorrect.
Thanks,
Mark Pettigrew
NES Dept.
UC Berkeley

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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:moderator
Subject:AATA info

The AATA website is at:

  http://www.wm.edu/aata/

Whenever I forget this, which is often, I just go to google.com, type in
American Association of Teachers of Arabic, and it is the first thing
that pops up.

Once in the site, click on publications and then on Al-Arabiyya to get
subscription info.  At the bottom of this info, you need ot click on
'Click here for more information' to get the contact info on the editor
of Al-Arabiyya, whom you would need to contact about submitting an
article.  It also has the contact info for the book review editor and
for business corresondance.

The AATA web page is a really good resource that all of us should be
checking out, making sure info about our institutions and programs is up
to date (see under programs), and that we know what resources are
available to us.

Dil
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 17 22:18:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:18:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Vocalic Passive Response
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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:enm at umich.edu
Subject:Vocalic Passive Response

Theodore Prochazka, Jr., Saudi Arabian Dialects, Kegan Paul
International, 1988, has a large number of Saudi dialects with internal
passives detailed in Chapter 12. The Passive Verb, pp. 115 - 124.

Ernest McCarus

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 17 22:18:42 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 16:18:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Military Terms Dictionary Responses
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3) Subject:Military Terms Dictionary Response
4) Subject:Military Terms Dictionary Response

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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:Srpko Lestaric <srpkole at EUnet.yu>
Subject:Military Terms Dictionary Response

Dear Lisa,

Here are some titles:

Badran, Shawqi Muhammad: Pocket book of military terms, English-Arabic.
Cairo: On sale at the Anglo Egyptian Bookshop, 1982.

Beijing Military Science Staff. Dictionary of the Military. French &
European Publications, 1989. Arabic, Chinese, English, French, German,
Russian, Spanish

Danilov, I. S.: Arabsko-russkii i russko-arabskii voennyi slovar. [Arabic
and Russian military dictionary.] Ministerstvo oborony SSSR, Moscow, 
1965.

Kay, Ernest (ed.): Arabic Military Dictionary: English-Arabic,
Arabic-English. Compiled by Multi-Lingual International Publishers Ltd 
under
the general editorship of Ernest Kay. London, Boston: Routledge & Kegan
Paul, 1986.

Kayyali, Maher S.: Modern Military Dictionary: English-Arabic,
Arabic-English. New York: Hippocrene Books, Inc., 1991.

Khattab, Mahmoud Shit (ed.): The Unifying Military Dictionary. al-mu3jam
al-3askari al-muwaHHid. English-Arabic. The Arab Armies Committee for
Unification of Military Terms. lajna tawHiid al-muSTalaHaat al-3askariyya
li-l-juyuush al-3arabiyya. maTaabi3 daar al-ma3aarif bi-maSr, 1970.

Khattab, Mahmoud Shit (ed.): The Unifying Military Dictionary. al-mu3jam
al-3askari al-muwaHHid. Arabic?English. The Arab Armies Committee for
Unification of Military Terms. lajna tawHiid al-muSTalaHaat al-3askariyya
li-l-juyuush al-3arabiyya. maTaabi3 daar al-ma3aarif bi-maSr, 1971.

United States. Army Intelligence Command. A dictionary of military and
technical terminology: Arabic-English. s.l.: United States Army 
Intelligence
Command, 1970.

3abd al-haadi, baahir: muSTalaHaat 3askariyya. Arabic military 
dictionary.
Includes index and English-Arabic glossary. Kuwait: Sharikat al-Rabian,
1982.

mahraan, jamaal al-diin yuunis - [et al.]: al-qaamuus al-3askari 
al-Hadiith.
?injiliizi-3arabi. Modern Military Dictionary, English-Arabic. Cairo, 
1974.

Good luck,
Srpko Lestaric

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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:"arabictc.com" <atc at arabictc.com>
Subject:Military Terms Dictionary Response

I have the following Dictionary:

Arabic Military Dictionary

E-A (171 pages) and A-E (128 pages)

Published in 1986 by Routledge & Kegan Pual in London
ISBN 0-7102-0458-2

I hope this helps.

Essam Elmahgoop
Certified Arabic Interpreter
San Francisco, California

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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From:enm at umich.edu
Subject:Military Terms Dictionary Response

I can mention A DICTIONARY OF MODERN TECHNICAL TERMS, by Constantine 
Theodory, Dar Al-Kutub Press, Beirut, 1959, an Arabic-English 
dictionary, includes Chapter VIII, Military Phrases and Terms, pp. 152 - 
169.

Ernest McCarus

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Date:  17 Jul 2002
From: Ivar Herlev Soerensen <herlev at mail.dou.dk>
Subject:Military Terms Dictionary Response

I can recommend the following Arabic-English/English-Arabic dictionary of
military terms - somewhat old, but rather functional:

Mahir al-Kiyyali: al-qamus al-'askari al-hadith ('arabi-inklizi,
inklizi-'arabi), mu'assasat al-'arabiya lil-dirasat wal-nashr, Beirut, 
1990
(2. ed.) (or later?)

Best regards

Ivar Herlev Soerensen
Centre for Contemporary Studies
University of Southern Denmark

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Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:08:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs native informants
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Date:  18 Jul 2002
From:Reiko Vermeulen <r.vermeulen at ucl.ac.uk> [reposted from LINGUIST]
Subject:Needs native informants

Dear Linguists,

I am studying a construction in Modern Standard Arabic, which is
usually, but not always, treated as left-dislocation (Doron & Heycock
1999, Fassi-Fehri 1993, Mohammad 1999).  Examples are given below.

(1)hind-un   yuqa:bilu-ha  -ulla:b-u	
    Hind-nom  meet(3m)-her  the-students(m)-nom
    'Hind, the students are meeting her.'

(2)xaalid-un   ra?aa  sadiiq-u-hu     saalim-an
    Khalid-nom  saw    friend-nom-his  Salim-acc
    'Khalid, his friend saw Salim.'

My particular interest lies in the occurrence of the nominative case
particle un on various constituents and the positions in which these
nominative phrases may appear.  In order to carry out this research, I
need some native speakers of Arabic to help me with some data.  It
would involve occasional judgement and translation queries by e-mail.
If you are willing/able to help, please contact me at the above e-mail
address.

Best regards,
Reiko Vermeulen
University College London, UK

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 18 22:08:58 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 16:08:58 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Language Testing Job
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Date:  18 Jul 2002
From:zabarahh at georgetown.edu
Subject:Arabic Language Testing Job

JOB ANNOUNCEMENT

Full-time/part-time position available immediately in Arabic language
testing at Second Language Testing, Inc. in North Bethesda MD.
Includes development of listening tests of Arabic colloquial dialects
and a test of Arabic to English written translation skills.  Tasks
include writing scenarios for conversations, supervising recordings,
writing multiple-choice items, translation of conversations, field
testing, scoring, developing a rater training kit, writing reports,
etc.  Flexible hours.  Must be fluent in Arabic and English and at
least one major Arabic dialect.  Computer skills.  Prefer someone in
the field of language testing or translator/interpreter, but an
experienced language teacher who knows the ILR scale would be suitable
also.  Please Email resume to cstansfield at 2LTI.com , or mail to:
Second Language Testing, Inc.
10713 Mist Haven Ter.
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jul 23 22:22:10 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:22:10 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:An on-line Arabic Course
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Date:  23 Jul 2002
From:Walid Farhoud <walid at dalilusa.com>
Subject:An on-line Arabic Course

I invite you to visit the Arabic Course on-line which I developed this 
last year. The response is great.
www.dalilusa.com , Select the Arabic Course. To enter you need a 
Password and a User name.
Please enter ?Sample? in both categories. This is a short-term 
complimentary entry.
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jul 23 22:22:15 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:22:15 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic on Web on Mac query
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Date:  23 Jul 2002
From:Kristin L Sands <kristin.sands at nyu.edu>
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac query

Dear Arabic-L subscribers,

I am trying to help students of mine with MAC computers read Arabic on
the web.  Using the latest operating system, OS10, I have tried the
latest version of Internet Explorer for MACs, as well as Moxilla, but
neither is working.  I see Arabic letters, but the writing is
gibberish.  I spoke to Apple and they told me to wait for OS10.2.
Isn't there some way to read Arabic on the web on a MAC now?

Thanking you in advance,
Kristin Sands

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jul 23 22:22:22 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:22:22 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Needs Old Arab Music recordings
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Date:  23 Jul 2002
From:"G. Borg" <g.borg at let.kun.nl>
Subject:Needs Old Arab Music recordings

Dear list members,
In connection to a project that envisages digital recording and
documentation of traditional Arabic music, I would like to ferret out
details about the possible existence of record archives containing this
kind of music in the Americas. I assume that the distribution of music by
record companies in the first half of the 20th century to immigrants from
the Levant and the activities of Arab radio stations might have left some
traces in wax, bakelite or vinyl.
Best wishes,
Gert Borg,
Nijmegen University,
the Netherlands

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jul 23 22:22:25 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:22:25 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Needs Janes
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Date:  23 Jul 2002
From:GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:Needs Janes

[please respond directly to the requester]

Can anybody suggest a resource to acquire Jane's Dictionary
itself, English or any language is OK. Thanks.

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:22:17 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:aaraabiizi
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Date:  23 Jul 2002
From:"F. Lagrange" <fredlag at noos.fr> (wanadoo)
Subject:aaraabiizi

dear all,
a query for Egyptian members on the list. In Edward al-Kharrat's short
story "taht al-gaami3", in the "Saa3aat al-Kibriyaa'" collection, I find
the following sentence (p12) in colloquial egyptian :

... el-3ayyela di abqa a3mel biiha eeh? ya3ni aakhretha yesiibha fe
aaraabiizi yebqa ya farheti ya hanaaya...

I don't understand "'aaraabiizi". Is it a location in Alexandria? An
orphanage?

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 25 18:21:39 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:39 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs MECAS grammar etc
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Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:amany haroun ahmad <amany33 at hotmail.com>
Subject:Needs MECAS grammar or other books with MLA and English

I am in search of a usable copy of the M.E.C.A.S. Grammar of Modern
Literary
Arabic, first published in Shemlan in 1965.  Major book outlets and my
local
foreign language book shops do not carry it, and it is almost certainly
out
of print.

More importantly, I am very anxious to find any reader or text book that
contains passages in MLA for which English translations are provided
either
immediately after the Arabic or in an available handbook/guide.  Ideal
would
be a collection of newspaper articles that appear both in English and
Arabic. . .Also acceptable would be excerpts and translations from other
modern sources.  A.T. Hassanein's Connectors book has a nice collection,
along these lines, and I have this, but I need more . . .

Many thanks. . .

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 25 18:21:34 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:34 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:After Postmodernism writers query
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Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:amany haroun ahmad <amany33 at hotmail.com>
Subject:After Postmodernism writers query

Dear Arabic-L subscribers,
  Can you help me find out information about 'After post modernism'?
Who are the writers and poets who follow this trend what are the plays 
or poems that can fall under?the application of this trend.
please If? you know any information about??'After post modernism' please 
do not hesitate to email me .

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 25 18:21:37 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:37 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:aaraabiizi responses
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1)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject:aaraabiizi response

fi 'arabiizi: loosely, in this context = with me, in my hair, in my 
face, i.e. annoying

... el-3ayyela di abqa a3mel biiha eeh? ya3ni aakhretha yesiibha fe
aaraabiizi yebqa ya farheti ya hanaaya...

I don't understand "'aaraabiizi". Is it a location in Alexandria? An
orphanage?

The speaker is irritated because the child is being left with him:

What the heck am I going to do with this kid?
Is he at the end of it all now going to leave her in my hair?  Great!

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2)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:Humphrey Davies <hdavies at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:aaraabiizi response

Hinds-Badawi gives:
fi-qarabiiz- (also fi-qarbuuz-) in the area of responsibi lity of, in 
the lap of. HaTTeet il-Hikaaya f-qarabiiz-u I dumped the matter into his 
lap, I left the matter up to him. wiqi' fi-qarbuuz-i It delvolved upon 
me.
?
All the best,
Humphrey Davies

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3)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:khorshid <khorshid at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:aaraabiizi response

"'arabiizi" is not a real thing. The expression yuq9ud/yuqa9 fi 
'arabiizi just
means I'm stuck with it. Compare "yishidd Hailu", where "Hail" is not a 
real
thing.

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4)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:zeinab Ibrahim <zeinabib at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:aaraabiizi response

The expression /yisibhaa fii 'arabiizii/ means that this person will be 
stuck
with whatever s/he is left with.

Zeinab Ibrahim

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 25 18:21:44 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:21:44 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic on Web on Mac responses
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5) Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response
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1)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:mehalld at georgetown.edu
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

To read Arabic language websites on the Mac, download the ICAB browser
from this address: http://www.icab.de/download.html

Best,
David Mehall

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2)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:"Rahawi, Mohammed" <RahawiM at state.gov>
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

I use mozilla 1.1 and OS 9.2. It works fine for me. You might want to
switch
to OS 9.x when you need to view Arabic pages. Anyway. OS 10.2 is out
and I
was told that it supports Arabic.
Good luck,
Mohammed Rahawi

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3)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:Gregg Reynolds <greynolds at greynolds.com>
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

Mozilla 1.0 works fairly well on my OS X 10.1.5 system (also worked on
10.1.4).  There are a few bugs but it is usable.  For example, a shaping
doesn't work for the occasional headline; it does work for the tab title
string, but not for the window title string.  (A newer (beta) release of
Mozilla claims to have improved arabic shaping.)  The default typesize
is a bit small but www.al-jazeera.com is readable and magnification
works.  You have to get your own fonts.  I got some from the web but I
don't remember where.  Take a look at http://www.arabeyes.org.  Put the
fonts in /Users/<yourid>/Library/Fonts.  Also make sure
Preferences->Navigator->Languages has an entry for Arabic.  Also there
is a "Fonts" section under Preferences->Appearance.  If this isn't
working for you be sure to check your versions.

You can always buy a copy of Virtual PC and run windows software.  I did
this before discovering that Mozilla works ok under OS X.  It runs
pretty slowly, though, and it's not free.  But I expect it will run
substantially faster under 10.2; if you have already invested in
Windows-based software it's worth a look.

Version 10.2 is due out in little more than a month, and apparently will
have full support for Arabic, Hebrew, and other non-latinate and
non-Hanzi writing systems.  Yay!  With this I'd say anybody in the
market for new computing equipment would be insane to buy a windows
machine instead of a Mac (writing as an ex-windows xp user).

Good luck,

Gregg

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4)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:"sattar.izwaini at stud.umist.ac.uk"
<Sattar.Izwaini at student.umist.ac.uk>
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

Hello
Sinbad is a free software by Sakhr that enables you to read Arabic
on Mac. You can download it from on their web site:
www.sakhr.com

Regards
Sattar Izwaini

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5)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

Someone recently said that Netscape works, so I tried it.

I was indeed able to get Arabic, but it's inverted.  So that
if you read al-Ahram online, for Mubarak (in Arabic)
you get karabuM.

Maybe a mirror would help :)

Waheed

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6)
Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:alijamal at attbi.com
Subject:Arabic on Web on Mac response

The best solution for reading Arabic web pages is to throw the Mac away
and
get a PC. Windows XP has Arabic support built in as an install option.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Jul 25 18:22:23 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:22:23 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs Mustawiyaat in English
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Date:  25 Jul 2002
From:Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:Needs Mustawiyaat in English

A ME history professor here has been asked to teach an Introduction to
the Study of the Middle East class in which he will cover historical,
political science, anthropological, sociological, linguistic, and
humanities oriented approaches to the study of the Middle East.  He is
trying to get 'seminal' but comprehensible articles in each field that
would give students a feel for what kinds of questions are asked in that
approach, and what kinds of data are used to get answers to those
questions.  For the linguistic secton, he would like to have at least
part of the Said Badawi work which I believe is called mustawiyaat
al-'arabiyya al-mu'aaSira fi miSr, in which Badawi lays out his model of
five levels for Arabic in Egypt.  However, these students don't read
Arabic.  Does anyone know if there is an English version of this piece
or of a part of it or a summary of it?  If there isn't, does anyone know
of another piece that either summarizes the ideas, or lays out similar
ideas?  Any help would be appreciated.
Dilworth Parkinson

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 15:59:39 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:59:39 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:mustawiyaat responses
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1)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Tim Buckwalter <timbuckwalter at bainbridge.net>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Dil:
There is a very good summary (including a diagram of the five levels) in
the
Introduction to the Hinds-Badawi dictionary.
Tim

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2)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:pstevens <pstevens at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Dil,
Your colleague can find a summary by Badawi himself in a festschrift in
honor
of Robert Lado edited by Kurt Jankiwsky, published by Georgetown
University
Press around 1985 or so.

Best regards,

Paul Stevens,
American University in Cairo
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3)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:dparvaz at mac.com
Subject:mustawiyaat response

If memory serves, there is a nice synopsis of this in the front matter
to Badawi's Cairene dictionary. Is more detail required?
Cheers,
Dan.

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4)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:"gwitty at earthlink.net" <gwitty at earthlink.net>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Hi Dil
There's a summary of this in the intro to the Badawi-Hinds dictionary.
It's somewhat technical, but short enough to be digestible for
undergrads...
yours
Gordon

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5)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:mehalld at georgetown.edu
Subject:mustawiyaat response

This book has not been translated but I deal briefly with the Badawi
paradigm in the first chapter of my Ph.D. dissertation entitled "The verb
morphology of unscripted oral media Arabic," pp. 6-13 and 170-173. This
thesis has been catalogued by the UMI Dissertation Services as Thesis #
7597, dated Nov 5, 1999.  Hope this has been of help.
Best,
David Mehall

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:14:11 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:14:11 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs corpora
Message-ID: <WED.31.JUL.2002.101411.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Iyad via aljamiado <iyad at aljamiado.com>
Subject:Needs corpora

Hi all,

I am searching for Arabic Corpora (Database, Dictionary) and by it I
can =
extract all the words in Arabic that compound from 3 letters with all =
the diacritizers (Harakat): Fatha, Kasra, Damma, Skoon, Shadda.
And if there a statistics about the using percentage of each word.

Thanks,
Iyad

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:14:42 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:14:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:mustawiyaat responses
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1)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Tim Buckwalter <timbuckwalter at bainbridge.net>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Dil:
There is a very good summary (including a diagram of the five levels) in
the
Introduction to the Hinds-Badawi dictionary.
Tim

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2)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:pstevens <pstevens at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Dil,
Your colleague can find a summary by Badawi himself in a festschrift in
honor
of Robert Lado edited by Kurt Jankiwsky, published by Georgetown
University
Press around 1985 or so.

Best regards,

Paul Stevens,
American University in Cairo
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3)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:dparvaz at mac.com
Subject:mustawiyaat response

If memory serves, there is a nice synopsis of this in the front matter
to Badawi's Cairene dictionary. Is more detail required?
Cheers,
Dan.

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4)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:"gwitty at earthlink.net" <gwitty at earthlink.net>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Hi Dil
There's a summary of this in the intro to the Badawi-Hinds dictionary.
It's somewhat technical, but short enough to be digestible for
undergrads...
yours
Gordon

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5)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:mehalld at georgetown.edu
Subject:mustawiyaat response

This book has not been translated but I deal briefly with the Badawi
paradigm in the first chapter of my Ph.D. dissertation entitled "The verb
morphology of unscripted oral media Arabic," pp. 6-13 and 170-173. This
thesis has been catalogued by the UMI Dissertation Services as Thesis #
7597, dated Nov 5, 1999.  Hope this has been of help.
Best,
David Mehall

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6)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Haruko SAKAEDANI <harukos at aa.tufs.ac.jp>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

1) Badawi, El-S. & Hinds, M. (1986).
      A Dictionary of Egyptian Arabic.  Librairie du Liban, Lebanon.

      They summarize the idea of mustawiyaat al-'arabiyya al-mu'aaSira fi
miSr
      in its Introduction.

2) Bakalla, M.H. (1984).
     Arabic Culture: Through Its Language and Literature.
                          Kegan Paul International Ltd., London.

     He propounds a term "spectroglossia," in which he adds the norm of
     social classes or occupations to think about the language levels.

3) Hary, B. (1996). The Importance of the Language Continuum in Arabic
Multiglossia.
         pp.69- 90 of
         Elgibali, A. (ed.)  (1996).
         Understanding Arabic.  The American University in Cairo Press,
Cairo.

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7)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Reem Bassiouney <reem.bassiouney at somerville.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject:mustawiyaat response

Dear Dil,
I am not sure Badawi's work has been translated into English.  I have
been working on This topic specifically for my thesis.  A good summary
of Badawi's ideas as well as similar approaches can be found in Modern
Arabic , Clive Holes, published by Longman.  There is also Holes'
article about Nasser's speeches on Perspectives on Arabic Linguistics
(5), 1993.  I think it may also be a good idea to know more about what
came after the theory of intermediate levels.  Since there is alot of
research on this topic that has been written since.  Reem

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:15:00 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:15:00 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:ILI info request
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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Kirk Belnap <rkb at byu.edu>
Subject:ILI info request

One of my students will be working in Egypt this year.  She is
thinking of taking an Egyptian Arabic class offered by the
International Language Institute (ILI).  She looked into the Hedayet
Institute, but her schedule would require a special arrangment that
is beyond her budget.  I'm not familiar with the quality of the ILI
programs and told her I would ask for candid responses from
colleagues.  I would appreciate hearing from someone who knows.

This student already has a good introduction to Egyptian.  She's
looking for a class that she could take from early Sept. to late
Oct.--in case you would recommend some other program in Cairo.

Thanks!

Kirk

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:14:53 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:14:53 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:shidd heelak, aaraabiizi
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1)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:"Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:shidd heelak query

[Moderator's note: this posting is a good example of something I would 
like to encourage: continuing an exchange with the individuals involved, 
and then posting the entire exchange.  This has the potential of saving 
time, and of making more sense to the readers. Then if someone has 
something to add, they can do so, but we won't have multiple posts of 
the original answer.  Thanks, Dil]

  What does  /yishidd  Hailu/  mean?  How is it used?

Thanks.                    --Mike Schub

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2)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Michel Naggar <mnaggar at sympatico.ca>
Subject:shidd heelak response

Dear Mike,
yishidd means to pull, Hail is not a real thing. Together, yishidd Hailu 
means
to do his best. If you are preparing for a test or the like, people tell 
you
shidd Hailak. It can also be used as a term of condolance if you lose a 
dear
person.

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3)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:"Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:shidd heelak

  Dear Khorshid,
      Thank you very much.
      The root Hyl is a proto-Semitic root for "strength, power,"
thus "Heile Selassie" in Ethiopic corresponds to proto-Arabic "Hayl al-
thalaatha~the Power of the Trinity."
     Could the origin of yishidd  Heilak be "may your strength be
renewed/increased"??
      Best wishes,
                                      Mike Schub

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4)
Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Michel Naggar <mnaggar at sympatico.ca>
Subject:arabbeezi

Humphrey Davies' response is very instructive.

While arabbeezi is used in common current speech in the sense everybody
agrees on - abubdantly and clearly given in all responses, it never 
occured
to me that it derived from, even is in the singular form of a word that 
had
a concrete material meaning as well, until I read Humphrey's response.

In the Mu3gam of the Acad?mie de langue arabe in Cairo, it is QARABOUS,
plural QARABIS, and is the saddlebow, i.e. in the lap; which is the 
precise
meaning, and figuratively a responsibility I have no use for.  Of course,
the S and the Z are interchangeable colloqually, like in besella and
bezella, mohandes and mohandez, etc.

Michel Naggar
Montreal

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:15:08 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:15:08 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:MECAS grammar response
Message-ID: <WED.31.JUL.2002.101508.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:Susan Hedahl <shedahl at ltsg.edu>
Subject:MECAS grammar response

Responding?to the person looking for a MECAS grammar book.? Improbable 
as it sounds, I suggest checking e-Bay.?Occasionally they do have texts 
in Arabic and also carry out of print, first edition and collector's 
books. ?I recently purchased a hardbound copy of Hans Wehr's dictionary 
on e-Bay for $16.
?
Dr. Susan Karen Hedahl

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:15:04 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:15:04 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Reading Arabic on Mac Browsers
Message-ID: <WED.31.JUL.2002.101504.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:dparvaz at mac.com
Subject:Reading Arabic on Mac Browsers

I tried Mozilla 1.1 (cutting-edge) release in OS X 10.1.5, but the
shaping is still a bit off, and the letter substitutions are a little
unnerving. According to the GIF link I sent the list earlier, Arabic,
Hebrew, and Yiddish (but not Persian!) were covered, in addition to
several languages using Nagari script -- I noticed, Hindi, Marathi, and
Sanskrit. It was unclear if Cyrillic diacritics needed for the proper
representation of USSR-era Tajik orthography were available.

If 10.2 ("Jaguar") has throughly implemented Unicode as advertised, I'm
hoping this extends to the terminal window, so that Lynx, Perl, etc.
behave as they ought with Arabic text. Then I can use my Windows PC as
God intended... for minesweeper :-)

Cheers,

Dan.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jul 31 16:14:16 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:14:16 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:AAAL Call for Papers
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Date:  31 Jul 2002
From:"American Association for Applied Linguistics (AAAL) 2003"
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Subject:AAAL Call for Papers

AAAL 2003 deadline is August 26!  Submit now!!

Call for Papers: AAAL 2003

The annual conference of the American Association for Applied Linguistics
(AAAL) will be held March 22-25, 2003 at the Sheraton National Hotel in
Arlington, VA, across the Potomac River from Washington, DC.  Proposals
for presentations related to policy, research, and theory are invited in
any area of applied linguistics. Proposals may be for individual papers,
poster sessions, or colloquia.  The abstract submission and refereeing
process will be paperless this year.  Instructions regarding abstract
preparation and online submission and other aspects of the conference may
be found on the organization's website:

			www.aaal.org/aaal2003/

Proposals may be submitted online until the deadline of August 26, 2002.
Please join us in Arlington for AAAL 2003!


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