From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Jun  1 14:30:26 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:30:26 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Scholarships response
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Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:Dale Frakes <dfrakes at egr.up.edu>
Subject:Scholarships response

While Portland State University (PSU) (http://www.pdx.edu) does not have
an Arabic degree program, they do offer courses in Arabic regularly to
the
3rd year level, with occasional 400 level courses.  They have a Middle
East studies program that requires 3 years of language study.  To that
end, there are 2 scholarships listed in their current bulletin:

Noury Al-Khaledy Scholarship in Arabic Studies. Established in 1995 in
rec-ognition of the contributions of the late Pro-fessor Noury Al-Khaledy
who led the Arabic Language instructional program at PSU for over two
decades. Open to all full-time PSU students of all majors who have
formally studied Arabic in an accredited college for at least two years;
had an outstanding perfor-mance in previous Arabic studies; 3.40 GPA or
higher; and a commitment to successfully complete third-year Arabic at
PSU. School performance and financial need are a major consideration.
(Department of Foreign Languages and Literatures, 393 Neuberger Hall,
503-725-3522.)

Patricia and Gary Leiser Scholarship in Middle Eastern Languages. Annual
award of $500 to an undergraduate engaged in the study of Arabic,
Turkish,
or Persian language at Portland State University. Appli-cants must be
enrolled in a course in one of the above languages during the year for
which the scholarship is granted, complete the course with a passing
grade, and have an overall grade point average of at least 3.25.
Applicants must also demonstrate serious interest in the Middle East by
taking courses on the region, and be a U.S. citizen. (Middle East Studies
Center, 320 East Hall, 503-725-4074).


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Jun  1 14:30:25 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:30:25 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Ancient Egyptian/Arabic relationship query
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Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:Tunde Borka <tundike at hotmail.com>
Subject:Ancient Egyptian/Arabic relationship query

[please respond directly to the queryer]

I am studiyng Arabic (Egyptian) for a year now, and I would like to ask
your help. I am looking for information about the history of the Arabic
language and the possible connections between the Egyptian hieroghlyphs
or demotic writing and modern Arabic.
Could you please tell me your opinion and suggest me some books or
web-sites where I can find answer to me questions?
Thank you very much,
Tunde Borka

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Jun  1 14:30:21 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:30:21 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LIST:list holiday
Message-ID: <SAT.1.JUN.2002.083021.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:moderator
Subject:list holiday

There will be a 1-2 week Arabic-L break beginning now.  Hope you all
have a wonderful summer!
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Jun  1 14:30:22 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:30:22 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Transliteration on PC responses
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1) Subject:Transliteration on PC response
2) Subject:Transliteration on PC response
3) Subject:Transliteration on PC response

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1)
Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject:Transliteration on PC response

If you are looking for a transliteration system to use in journals,
which do not use the IPA but have a specific set, then you might wish to
get a font design package.  What you could do with that is to make a
copy of a font, such as Times New Roman, and call it something else,
such as My Times New Roman.  In that font, with minimal work, you could
then add the dots and dashes over the required characters.  Finally, you
would install that font.  In this manner, the font will be accessible to
all your Windows applications - selectable from the font drop-down
dialogue box.
If you need the IPA font, you can download that at www.sil.org

Waheed
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2)
Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:Kino <quinon at yhb.att.ne.jp>
Subject:Transliteration on PC response

If you have a Unicode savvy application like AbiWord or MS Word, you'd
better use Unicode fonts containing glyphs used in Arabic
transliteration such as Tyromanes, Arial Unicode MS -- or TITUS Cyberbit
Basic which has a large number of uncommon characters in Private Use
area.

As for Unicode support of your system, see
	<http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/unicode/unitest2.htm>

As for the fonts, you'll find download links at
	<http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/fonts.html>

Maybe you will find useful some of the utilities described in
	<http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/utilities_fonts.html>

Alternatively you can use Symbol fonts like those included in
Encyclopaedia Islam CD. But, with these fonts, it will be difficult to
keep the compatibility of your documents.

Yusuke Kinoshita

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3)
Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:Transliteration on PC response

Universal Word 2000 is UNICODE compliant. It comes in many
language combinations. UW 2000 ML-1 includes the following:

ML-1 Arabic Languages: Arabic, Azeri-Arabic, English, Farsi,
Malay-Jawi, Pashto, Urdu, Transliteration, Int'l. Phonetic. A Free
Demo can be downloaded from http://aramedia.com/uniword.htm

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Jun  1 14:30:24 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:30:24 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:NYU Summer Teaching Job
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Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:Milena Savova <ms93 at nyu.edu>
Subject:NYU Summer Teaching Job

Dear Colleagues,

I am new to this listserve and I would like to introduce myself.  I
direct the Center for Foreign Languages and Translation at New York
University's  School of Continuing and Professional Studies.  We teach
25 languages including standard and colloquial Arabic, Persian and
Turkish.  I regret to say that I don't speak Arabic or Persian but I
like to know about new textbooks, dictionaries, grammar books, etc.
And, above all, I am interested in finding good instructors.

We have a successful and good-sized Arabic language program.  Right
now,  I am looking for someone in the New York City area who can teach
an intensive 3-week daytime course in standard Arabic from June 24 to
July 12.  We have a sophisticated  student body consisting of
successful NY professionals.

Interested colleagues can  contact me at milena.savova at nyu.edu.

Looking forward to hearing from you and to learning from you discussions.

Thank you.
Sincerely,
Milena Savova

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jun 18 22:38:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Summer Courses at SOAS
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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:Sherin Abdel Halim <sa15 at soas.ac.uk>
Subject:Arabic Summer Courses at SOAS

ARABIC LANGUAGE COURSES
Language Centre
School of Oriental and African Studies
University of London

The following is the information regarding our 2002 intensive Summer 
Courses
(Courses are offered Mon-Fri 9.30am-4pm):

1. One-week Survival course in Modern Standard Arabic (25hrs in total).
Dates: 01-Jul-02 to 05-Jul-02  (closing date for applications:  21st June
2002)

2. One-week Survival course in Colloquial Egyptian Dialect (25hrs in 
total).
Dates: 29-Jul-02 to 02-Aug-02  (closing date for applications:  19th July
2002)

3. Two-week Intensive Course in Modern Standard Arabic (50hrs in total).
Dates: 01-Jul-02 to 12-Jul-02  (closing date for applications:  21st June
2002)

4. Two-week Intensive Course in Colloquial Egyptian Dialect (50hrs in
total).
Dates: 29-Jul-02 to 9-Aug-02  (closing date for applications:  19th July
2002)

5. Four-Week Arabic Course - A general preparation for communicating in
Modern Standard Arabic (100hrs in total).
Dates: 01-Jul-02 to 26-Jul-02  (closing date for applications:  21st June
2002)

6. Four-Week Arabic Course - A general preparation for communicating in
Colloquial Egyptian Dialect (100hrs in total).
Dates: 29-Jul-02 to 23-Aug-02  (closing date for applications:  19th July
2002)

Self-Access Learning:  The Resources Room is open to Language Centre
students free of charge.  It contains audio listening and recording
facilities, reception of 19 satellite TV and radio stations (including 
BBC
World Service radio programmes), computers with Internet access, and an
increasing range of computer-based language learning software.  Students 
are
encouraged to use the facilities in their own time in order to build upon
skills learnt in the classroom.

SOAS Library:  Language Centre students are issued with a library card
giving them access to the School’s unique and extensive collection of 
books,
manuscripts, archives, microfilms and maps of Asia and Africa.

How to Apply:  Completed application forms, together with the payment for
both the course fee and any course material you have asked the Language
Centre to order for you,  should be returned to the SOAS Language Centre.
Please note that classes may fill up quickly.  In some cases, additional
classes are set up; however it is best to apply early in order to avoid
disappointment.


HOW TO CONTACT US:

http://www.soas.ac.uk/centres/languagecentre/arabic
E-mail: sa15 at soas.ac.uk
Telephone:	UK:  020 7898 4888	World: +44 20 7898 4888
Fax:		UK:  020 7898 4889	World: +44 20 7898 4889
Post: The Arabic Courses Secretary, Language Centre for the School of
Oriental and
African Studies, Thornhaugh Street, Russell Square, LONDON WC1H OXG

Sherin Abdel Halim
Co-ordinator of Arabic Language Courses
Language Centre, SOAS
Thornhaugh Street, Russell Square
London, WC1H 0XG

Tel: 020 7898 4877
Fax: 020 7898 4889

Arabic Language Courses: http://www.soas.ac.uk/languagecentre/arabic
": The content of this e-mail and any attachments are offered in good 
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but the School of Oriental and African Studies cannot accept 
responsibility
for direct or indirect consequences resulting from it. This message does 
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jun 18 22:38:40 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:40 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Yale Job
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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:Maureen Draicchio <maureen.draicchio at yale.edu>
Subject:Yale Job

Yale University
Arabic and Islamic Studies Position

The Department of Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations, invites 
applications for a non-tenure position in Arabic and Islamic Studies at 
the level of assistant or associate professor on term, beginning July 1, 
2003. The successful candidate will teach advanced Modern Standard and 
Classical Arabic and lecture courses in area(s) of specialization in any 
of the fields of the literature, history, and civilization of the Arab 
world. Expertise may lie in the classical period with competence to 
teach courses in the modern, or in the modern period with competence to 
teach courses in the classical. Teaching ability in a major dialect of 
Arabic and familiarity with the use of new media in the classroom are 
welcome.

Send letter of application, CV, bibliography (please do not send copies 
of publications), and three letters of reference to:

Chairman, Arabic Search Committee
Department of Near Eastern Languages & Civilizations
Yale University
P.O. Box 208236
New Haven   CT 06520-8236

Deadline for submission of application, November 1, 2002
Yale is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jun 18 22:38:45 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:45 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Book:Development of Afro-Asiatic
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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:New Book:Development of Afro-Asiatic

Date:  11 Jun 2002 18:39 GMT
From:  LINCOM.EUROPA at t-online.de (LINCOM EUROPA)
Subject:  Development of Afro-Asiatic (Semito-Hamitic) 
Comparative-Historical Linguistics in Russia and the Former Soviet Union

Development of Afro-Asiatic (Semito-Hamitic)
Comparative-Historical Linguistics in Russia and the Former Soviet
Union

Gábor Takács

This study gives the first science history and a detailed and
extensive scientific appraisal of the works by the Russian school (or
"Moscow school") of Afro-Asiatic (Semito-Hamitic)
comparative-historical linguistics in the past three decades.  The
book contains the following parts: 1. A general overview of roots of
Afro-Asiatic linguistics in Russia before 1965. 2. A concise survey of
development of Afro-Asiatic studies from 1965 in Russia. 3. A most
detailed presentation and critical appraisal of works by the Russian
comparativists on the reconstruction of Afro-Asiatic comparative
phonology and lexicon in the light of research results of other
("Western") scholars (incl. my own observations). 4. A concise
description of the so-called "Nostratic theory" and introduction of
the "Moscow school of comparative linguistics" in the latest three
decades. 5. The work ends with a comprehensive bibliography of all
cited works. This is at the same time the first bibliography that
includes all Russian works on Afro-Asiatic linguistics from 1965.

ISBN 3 89586 591 5.
LINCOM Studies in Afro-Asiatic Linguistics 02.
200 pp. USD 68.90 / EUR 72.10 / £ 44.60. 2nd printing.

Free copies of LINCOM's catalogue 2002 ("project line 12") are now
available from LINCOM.EUROPA at t-online.de.

LINCOM electronic n.e.w.s.l.e.t.t.e.r. :New books in June 2002.
http://www.lincom-europa.com

LINCOM EUROPA, Freibadstr. 3, D-81543 Muenchen, Germany
FAX +49 89 62269404
http://www.lincom-europa.com
LINCOM.EUROPA at t-online.de.


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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Need Levantine Native Speakers for hand held
 translator
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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:Bushra Zawaydeh <bzawayde at bbn.com>
Subject:Need Levantine Native Speakers for hand held translator

BBN Technologies is working on a project to build a hand-held translator
device that will allow limited two-way communication between an English
speaker and speakers of other languages, such as Arabic, Spanish, or
Chinese.  The device is intended to be used by field workers in
developing
countries who may need to provide refugee assistance or disaster relief.

To train the system to understand native speakers, we need to record
native
speakers of Levantine colloquial Arabic (native speakers of Arabic from
Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, or Syria) who will play the part of
host-country
residents answering made-up questions in the domain. Subjects will remain
anonymous, and will be paid $40 for 45 - 60 minutes of their time.  The
recording will take place on the MIT campus or could be arranged
individually.

If you are interested, please send an e-mail to Bushra Zawaydeh
(bzawaydeh at hotmail.com and bushra at bbn.com).

Thank you

Bushra Zawaydeh, Ph.D.
BBN Technologies
tel (617-873-2018)
bzawaydeh at hotmail.com
bushra at bbn.com

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jun 18 22:38:51 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:XML Editor for Arabic Texts Query
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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:"chafik.aloulou" <chafik.aloulou at fsegs.rnu.tn>
Subject:XML Editor for Arabic Texts Query

Hello everybody,
I am interested for an XML editor for Arabic Texts.
Thanks in advance,
Chafik
 
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jun 18 22:38:53 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:53 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Linux/Unix support
Message-ID: <TUE.18.JUN.2002.163853.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:Nadim Shaikli <nadim at arabeyes.org>
Subject:Arabic Linux/Unix support

We'd like to inform you that we've been looking into and working hard on
Arab'ising various common linux/unix software packages for the past few
months and have had some success stories with more to come.  The reason
we're contacting you is simple - we __NEED__ your help (in programming,
suggestions, opinions, development, support, direction, translation,
etc).

We've done quite a bit of Internet surfing to see what's available in
terms
of Arabic support and what we've found is somewhat distressing -- there
have
been a number of projects undertaken that were either dropped or
completed
with the authors, unfortunately, moving on (well, disappearing); we're
trying to remedy this problem, among others.  We'd like to further along
this noble cause and it's come to our attention that you might be
interested
in the work we're undertaking; thus, we'd like to invite you to visit our
new site,

         http://www.arabeyes.org     (as in arabize :-)

which we're hoping will become a rallying point to finding all the
necessary
info required to start/continue/finish Arabic support to anything that
has
to do with linux/unix now and in the future (with and without authors
disappearing, this site and community will *continue* :-).  We've
committed
to hosting an anonymous CVS server, a question/answer database, a fonts
collection, a links section (if you'd like us to list your RELEVANT site,
let us know), various mailing-lists (based on need), news, ... and of
course
software :-) all under the Open Source umbrella (GPL license).  The point
is to link-up all the efforts out there and to provide a means and a
forum
to talk and to help each other out (we're trying to rid ourselves from
fragmentation).

We're hoping this will be a grass-roots effort in which decisions are
made
by consensus and by the general feel and attitude of participants.

We currently have 4 mailing-lists grouped in the following manner,

  announce  - Software releases, newsletters, important news
  general   - general discussion topics relating to Arabising software
  developer - software coding issues, C/C++/perl/java/etc (development
work)
  doc       - translation, localisation issues (look-n-feel)

We'd like to invite you to read our archived lists to which we're hoping
you'd consider subscribing so as to lend all of us a helping hand,

         http://www.arabeyes.org/mailman/listinfo

consider looking at 'general' first since it has a wider focus.
You should subscribe to 'announce' at a minimum since it gets the
least amount of traffic and will keep you informed of any new
developments.

PLEASE NOTE - we're not intending this effort to turn into or become a
political/religious/spiritual/commercial forum (that will not be
tolerated).
We just want to see Arabic and linux commonplace and will participate in
major OpenSource efforts to augment their needs and to provide
fixes/patches
to existing programs as well as to start our own (we want our work/code
to make it to the 'main' branches of packages we concentrate on).  We're
very committed to this effort and are not simply intending to complain;
we fully intend to code and get dirt under our fingernails :-)

Our motto has been dictated to us - 'if you can't help yourself, then
don't expect others to help you !!'.  We urge you to rise to the
challenge and lend a helping hand.

Many thanks & we look forward to hearing from you on www.arabeyes.org

  - The arabeyes.org Team

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:39:02 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Transliteration on PC Responses
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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:Paul Nelson <paulnel at winse.microsoft.com>
Subject:Transliteration on PC Response

Making a copy of Times New Roman or any other font, renaming it and 
making modifications without the permission of the font vendor is 
expressly prohibited by copyright and other laws.
 
If you have Windows XP you may find that Times New Roman has the letters 
you require, or most of them, already. We are also in the process of 
adding full support for IPA and latin combining marks in all of our core 
fonts for the next version of Windows.
 
Regards,
 
Paul Nelson
Microsoft Typography

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 19 20:18:21 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:18:21 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs books written in Levantine dialect
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1) Subject:Needs books written in Levantine dialect; how to write
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Date:  19 Jun 2002
From:Bushra Zawaydeh <bzawaydeh at hotmail.com>
Subject:Needs books written in Levantine dialect; how to write dialects
in Arabic script?


Hello
I was wondering if anybody knows about books written in the Arabic
Levantine dialects of Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine? Also, does
anybody know if there are transcription guidelines of how to write the
dialects in Arabic script?

thanks
Bushra

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 19 20:18:32 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:18:32 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Doesn't buy fonts restrictions or moderation
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Date:  19 Jun 2002
From:Gregg Reynolds <greynolds at greynolds.com>
Subject:Doesn't buy fonts restrictions or moderation


> Making a copy of Times New Roman or any other font, renaming it and
> making modifications without the permission of the font vendor is
> expressly prohibited by copyright and other laws.

I'm not a lawyer, but this strikes me as obviously untrue.  I think
copyright laws only forbid you to sell such copies modified or not.  If
you want to make such copies and modifications for your own use you're
free to do so, so long as you've purchased the original.  As to whether
or not that includes using such derived fonts to put actual ink on paper
(e.g. publish a book) I'm not so sure, but I'll bet it's allowed, since
typefaces are not protected by copyright, only the font programs that
generate the inking instructions (which is what "font" means for
computers).  And another thing, why on earth is this list censored, er,
moderated?  I don't see how such practice adds any value whatsoever.  On
the contrary.

-gregg

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 19 20:18:34 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:18:34 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Software for school learners query
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Date:  19 Jun 2002
From:Ola Moshref <Ola.Moshref at zu.ac.ae>
Subject:Software for school learners query

Hello,
People interested in education asked me about software that could be
used as a teaching aid for school learners of MSA in Arab countries. I
only know of cartoon films, but is there any more educational oriented
software available?

Ola Moshref
Instructor
Arabic Language Center
Zayed University
Abu Dhabi - P.O. Box 4783
Dir Tel: 971-2- 4079611
Fax: +9712 4434847

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 19 20:19:19 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:19:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Why the list is censored
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Date:  19 Jun 2002
From:moderator
Subject:Why the list is censored

> why on earth is this list censored, er, moderated?  I don't see how
> such practice adds any value whatsoever.  On the contrary.

The reason the list is censored\moderated is to keep it on task.  From
my point of view this makes it a much more useful list for those for
whom it is designed.  It keeps the postings (relatively) infrequent,
which tends to increase the number of 'key' people willing to stay
subscribed, which means that if there is a job or book posting, you can
be relatively certain that everyone who should see it will see it.  It
makes it a much more annoying list for those who want to post out of
those subject areas and for advertisers, but I figure that they have a
lot of places to post, and there isn't really anything else like
Arabic-L for Arabic language teachers and linguists.

To give an example of an unmoderated list which became extremely
annoying, I subscribed to a list called ARACOM many years ago.  The
topic was supposed to be Arabic and Computers.  However, it being
unmonitored the topics were sometimes political, but over time became
more and more simply advertisements for mortgages, viagra and
pornography.  I tried to unsubscribe several times but seem unable to do
so.  I haven't gotten an 'on task' message for years, but finally simply
had to filter out EVERYTHING from ARACOM since I was getting up to 80
unwanted messages a day.

I currently get about 40 'error messages' to Arabic-L a day from such
advertisers of things that have nothing to do with Arabic.  If the list
were unmoderated, they would all come through to you.  Is anyone
interested in getting these ads?  I can certainly pass them on if you
like.

Admittedly, any 'editorial/moderating/censuring' hand has to make many
decisions on a daily basis that everyone might not agree with, since
there are many postings right at the edge, and others just over it.  I
try to be as fair as I can, but I am aware that I make some people mad.
For that I apologize.  I sometimes feel that I need to cut off
discussion on a particular topic that has had a number of exchanges
(although if the engagers in the discussion want to continue it among
themselves to some conclusion I would then post a summary), and I
sometimes feel that the tone of a message is simply a little too angry
for posting, or the humor a little too offensive.  However, I have
posted many messages that were right on the edge in each of these areas,
and in general I post everything that is 'on subject' that comes
through, with VERY few exceptions, even messages that I personally
disagree with or that I feel are simply stupid.  Whenever I post 'on the
edge' messages, I get replies telling me that it should have been
considered 'over the edge' and not posted.  This tells me that there are
at least some out there who appreciated the editorial hand, and probably
wish it would be a bit stronger.  I'm sure, as well, that many others
want it to be weaker.  'Tis a puzzlement.

To review, Arabic-L posts messages in the areas of Arabic Linguistics
(LING), Arabic Language Teaching (PEDA), and Arabic Literature (LIT)
(although literature posts are somewhat rare), in addition to things
that Arabic Language teachers and linguists might be interested in that
are related, particularly having to do with Arabic and computers and
transliteration issues (GEN).  I will post ads (labelled AD) on occasion
when it appears to be advertising a new product that I feel many people
probably do not know about, but will not post repeated ads for the same
thing.  After some discussion on the list, it was decided that I would
also post translation queries (how do you say this word in Arabic?),
labelled with TRANS. I also try to post all Arabic related jobs (either
teaching, translating or related), and any new article or book that
comes across.  Also, information about Arabic language programs and
summer programs throughout the world.   I would love to post reviews as
well, but none have really been forthcoming.

The labels allow people to delete messages they are not interested in
without opening them.

I will not post a whole quoted message with a reply.  I will however
post a quote of the relevant part of a message if the sender of the
reply prepares it that way (see this message).  I usually, however, will
not do the preparation for the sender.  In other words, if you just hit
'reply' and type your message somewhere among the quoted material, I
will simply post the message without the quoted material.

I will not post attachments.  If I can easily open an attachment and
copy its contents into the body of the message, I will do it, but if I
have trouble, I simply don't post.

I hope that clarifies things, and I also hope that there are many who
continue to find Arabic-L useful.  I am wiling to receive other
complaints and suggestions if you have them but can't always promise a
reply.

Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:25 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:25 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:School software responses
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Iman Soliman <halleluiah3 at yahoo.com>
Subject:School software response

Dear Ola
In Egypt  now we have all the national curriculum on
CDs for the students.  (of course not a governmental
project but a private one)
But I think this might be out of the Abo Dhabi
educational context.  There are a few programmes
developed by Sakhr Comapany that do help teach Arabic.
  some of them are concerned with Arabic grammar.  They
also have a lot of programmes and stories on cds. I
think you could contact them directly and see what you
can use according to your age group.
I hope you find this information helpful
Iman A. soliman

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:School software response

Electronic Resources for teaching arabic are available from AramediA at:

http://www.aramedia.com/atutors.htm

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:27 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Font restrictions
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject:Font restrictions

Actually I think that the typefaces are copyrighted.  That is why you
get "Times" vs. "Times New Roman."  There is some slight difference
noticeable to a font designer, that allows the designer not to pay a
royalty to AGFA which holds the copyright on Times.

I, of course am not a lawyer but this has been my impresion about the
state of affairs for more than 20 years now.
cheers,
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Paul Nelson <paulnel at winse.microsoft.com>
Subject:Font restrictions

I'm not a lawyer, but this strikes me as obviously untrue.  I think
copyright laws only forbid you to sell such copies modified or not.  If

you want to make such copies and modifications for your own use you're
free to do so, so long as you've purchased the original.

Fonts are software and are copyrighted...just as a book is copyrighted.
The electronic data of a font is protected intellectual property and
cannot legally be modified without the explicit concent of the owner of
the data.

Adobe encourages people to modify their fonts directly because they
don't want to make custom fonts. Monotype, who owns Times New Roman, is
happy to make private versions of fonts for people and stay in business
by doing just that.

Paul Nelson

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Gregg Reynolds <greynolds at greynolds.com>
Subject:Font restrictions

I'm not a lawyer, but this strikes me as obviously untrue.  I think
copyright laws only forbid you to sell such copies modified or not.  If

you want to make such copies and modifications for your own use you're
free to do so, so long as you've purchased the original.

Fonts are software and are copyrighted...just as a book is copyrighted.
The electronic data of a font is protected intellectual property and
cannot legally be modified without the explicit concent of the owner of
the data.


"Cannot be modified"?  This is clearly untrue. The doctrine of "fair
use" permits lots of kinds of copying and modification of works under
copyright; in particular, it looks to me like a teacher could legally
copy and modify a font for educational and/or research purposes.
Artists do all kinds of copying and reproducing of copyrighted works for
artistic purposes.  I'd be very surprised if fair use for
educational/research purposes did not cover the case of an individual
copying and modifying a legally obtained font for all kinds of private
projects.  For example, in order to study the internal code design of a
professionally produced font.

But not being a lawyer myself I'm not 100% certain of the details.  Are
you a lawyer with the required specialization in copyright?  Fair use is
a pretty complex area, not nearly as clear-cut as your remarks make it
sound.  Do you represent Microsoft?  If so I'd check with legal before
pronouncing on copyright law.  I would certainly appreciate correction
by competent legal opinion if I've gotten this all wrong.

The thing I'm not sure about is the legality of using my own modified
copy of a font to produce printed works for redistribution.  My guess is
that the law isn't especially clear in this are yet.  Consider an
analogy:  I buy a compiler, modify it, and use the modified version to
produce software.  Can I redistribute the software?  As a legal issue
this is clearly off-topic for this list; but the issue of using modified
fonts to print materials does seem to have relevance, since we're not
exactly drowning in Arabic fonts.  For example, suppose I have a
favorite Arabic font and I need a glyph for the Egyptian colloquial
qaf.  It seems fair to me to modify the font I own by copying and
altering its qaf.  So long as I don't redistribute the font itself I
don't think I've harmed the copyright owner's interests by printing a
book using the modified font.  Can anybody out there offer a competent
legal opinion on this?

Also, companies (e.g. Microsoft) generally don't sell software, they
license it, and I have no idea where that leaves the consumer wrt
copyright law.  Maybe it doesn't even apply.

Here's the url for the US Copyright Office's circular on the basics:
http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html

Fair use:  http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107  also
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.notes.html

Fontlab sells professional font design software, and on their website
they make a font or two available without copyright restrictions,
specifically for use as a starting point in designing new fonts.  I've
not looked at them myself so I don't know if they're any good.
http://www.fontlab.com

Anyway that's my two cents; I'm not looking for a debate on the issue,
which I'm sure can be found on other law-oriented lists.  Since the
censor of this list has helpfully de-threaded the messages, I'm unable
to refer to the originating message, but I hope this serves to de-FUD
things a little.

-gregg

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:31 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New paper
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Sami Boudelaa <sami.boudelaa at mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk>
Subject:New paper

[Sami sent me a PDF of the following paper.  I don't post attachments,
but if you would like an electronic copy, I imagine that Sami would be
happy to send it ot you.--Dil]

Enclosed is a  PDF of a recent paper on Arabic broken plurals published
in Language and Cognitive Processes, 2002 17 (3), 321-343. I thought it
might be of interest to some people on the list.
Sami

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:29 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:29 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Levantine books responses
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Srpko Lestaric <srpkole at EUnet.yu>
Subject:Levantine books response

Dear Bushra,
 
There must be lots of such books. Try, first of all, a masterpiece of a 
folkloristic effort: 
 
 
'ibraahiim muhawwi & shariif kanaa3ina: quul yaa Tayr... nuSuuS wa 
diraasa fi al-Hikaaya al-sha3biyya al-filasTiiniyya, Tab3a 3arabiyya 
munaqqaHa; mu'assasa al-diraasaat al-filasTiiniyya 2001 (Institute For 
Palestine Studies, E-mail: ipsbrt at cyberia.net.lb). The book was first 
issued as an English translation entitled "Speak, Bird, Speak Again": 
Palestinian Arab Folktales, Ibrahim Muhawi and Sharif Kanaana. 
University of California Press, 1989.
 
Another one from bilaad ash-shaam that comes to mind this moment would 
be also a superb compilation (35 genuine folk tales in Jerusalem 
vernacular) and a successful sample too how to transcribe al-3aammiyya 
by the Arabic letters:
 
Modern Arabic Tales, by Enno Littmann, PH. D., volume I, Arabic text, E. 
J. Brill, Leyden 1905 (Part VI of The Publications of an American 
Archaeological Expedition to Syria in 1899-1900 - Under The Patronage of 
V. Everit Macy, Clarence M. Hyde, B. Talbot B. Hyde and I. N. Phelps 
Stokes).
 
As for how to write dialects in Arabic script -- well, I dare say the 
best way is to do that as simple as possible, for the relationship 
between different aspects of the Arabic spoken dialects and the system 
of, say, classical Arabic script is somewhat complicated. One must at 
any rate know that very dialect to read correctly what you put down on 
paper.
 
You can perhaps try to discuss the matter with Mr. Muhawi, who is pretty 
competent -- he teaches translatology and the Arabic literature at 
University of Edinburgh:  <Ibrahim.Muhawi at ed.ac.uk>.
 
Best regards,
Srpko Lestaric

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Jan Hoogland <j.hoogland at let.kun.nl>
Subject:Levantine books response

Hi Bushra,
That's an interesting topic.
I don't know anything about written Levantine dialects.
I can only tell you about written Moroccan dialect. It seems there are 
no rules at all. Any writer can just use his own set of orthograpic 
rules, not only considering representation of consonants or vowels, but 
also considering morphological phenomena like writing the negation 
ma - ... - sh attached to a word or not.
Funny things happen. For example you may notice someone who adds an alif 
to any verb conjugation ending in a long vowel u. (similar to the 3th 
person plural perfect verb in fusha).
In Moroccan Arabic the 3rd person masculin singular suffix can be -u or 
-h depending on the preceding sound (u after consonant, h after vowel).
Some writers, doing their best to represent the spoken language as 
closely as possible, will do this in their writing too.

Since Egyptian 'amiyyah is written quite often too, and even some novels 
have been published in dialect (I remember to have read this once), 
their might be some guidelines there?
Maybe Manfred Woidich can tell us about that?

Please keep us informed on your findings.
Jan

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:35 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:35 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic HTML Package query
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Martha Schulte-Nafeh <marthas at u.arizona.edu>
Subject:Arabic HTML Package query

Greetings from the desert in Tucson

I am about to embark on a project to produce an Arabic class web page on
which I want to have both English and Arabic. Back in April there was a
request to this list about software tools available for such a project.
Reviewing that discussion it seems that the following are available:
(with
contributors names in parentheses)

1. NasherNet by Sakhr (mentioned by Paul Roochnik)
2. FrontPage 2002 (Stephen Franke, Jamal Qureshi)
3. Creating Arabic in Word 2000, exporting it as HTML and then building
the
website with Macromedia's HomeSite (Jan M. Zenker)

NasherNet is probably an excellent software but I would not be able to
get
any support for it on my campus so I steer away from it (also, it is
quite
expensive I believe). I was thinking of using FrontPage 2002,
particularly
because that software has a built in feature that allows you to create
online questionnaires easily and this is one of the features I want on my
site. However, a number of people have indicated to me that FrontPage is
limiting in the long run, and is somewhat "buggy" (although easier to
learn
initially) and so I am now thinking of going with something more like
option
3 - except using Macromedia's Dreamweaver, which apparently incorporated
HomeSite, and supports Unicode so should be able to handle Arabic and
English on the same page. The fact that the software has a somewhat
higher
learning curve than FrontPage 2002 should not be a problem as I have a
small
amount of grant money to pay someone else to actually develop this page
for
me. I am just involving myself in the tools selection phase and then will
step back from the project, other than to tell the developer what I want
on
the site.

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with using Dreamweaver
to
do Arabic and English web pages? Also, if anyone has additional
information
regarding any of the above tools or others that I might consider, I would
like to hear about them.

Thanks for your input,

Peace,
Martha

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:37 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:37 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Looking for Computer Corpus
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:"sattar.izwaini at stud.umist.ac.uk"
<Sattar.Izwaini at student.umist.ac.uk>
Subject:Looking for Computer Corpus

Dear list members
I am looking for Arabic translated texts in the field of information
technology in general and computer in particular. Such texts can
be online help files of software, especially Mac (but not Windows)
or any translated texts in this field, e.g. books, articles, web
sites/links, manuals etc.

I will be grateful for any help or tip.

Sattar Izwaini
PhD Candidate
Department of Language and Linguistics
UMIST
PO Box 88
Manchester M60 1QD
England

Tel.+44 161 200 3074
Fax +44 161 200 3091

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:33 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:33 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic e-mail on Mac query
Message-ID: <WED.26.JUN.2002.170233.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Paul Roochnik <paul at TranslationGuy.com>
Subject:Arabic e-mail on Mac query

Dear Friends,
What is the best method for reading and writing Arabic email on the Mac?
Thanks and cheers,
Abu Sammy.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:39 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:39 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Gulf Pidgin Paper
Message-ID: <WED.26.JUN.2002.170239.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Abdul-Qadir Wiswall <wiswallwiswall at hotmail.com>
Subject:Gulf Pidgin Paper

I saw the query about Gulf Pidgin.  A paper I recently completed for the 
Ohio University Linguistics Department is listed on my website under 
research: "Gulf Pidgin: a reanalysis."

The address is http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~aw321500/

Please let me know what you think.

Thank you.

Abdul-Qadir

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:43 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Ta'nafah
Message-ID: <WED.26.JUN.2002.170243.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:"Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:Ta'nafah

What does  /Ta'nafah/  mean??  [With velarized Taa' and hamza].

      Thank you.                   Mike Schub

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:41 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:41 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Semitic Computation Workshop
Message-ID: <WED.26.JUN.2002.170241.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:mros1 at cs.um.edu.mt
Subject:Semitic Computation Workshop

//////////////////////
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
//////////////////////
ACL02 WORKSHOP ON
COMPUTATIONAL APPROACHES TO SEMITIC LANGUAGES
/////////////////////////////////////////////
University of Pennsylvania
Thursday   11  July,  2002
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Invited Speaker: Sergei Nirenburg, CRL, New Mexico

//////
THEMES
//////

Which areas are suitable for common research and for the pooling of
resources?

What are the limitations of established techniques and tools when
applied to Semitic languages?

What are the themes of interest to a Special Interest Group for Semitic
Languages?


Further Details: http://www.cs.um.edu.mt/~mros/WSL
or contact mike.rosner at um.edu.mt or shuly at cs.haifa.ac.il

Registration: http://www.acl02.org

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:48 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Post-Doc in Arabic Natural Language Processing
Message-ID: <WED.26.JUN.2002.170248.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From: jurafsky at colorado.edu
Subject:Post-Doc in Arabic Natural Language Processing

University or Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Rank of Job: Post Doc
Specialty Areas Required: Any
Required Language(s): Arabic, Standard (Code = ABV)

Description:

Boulder, in coordination with the Departments of Computer Science and
Linguistics, is seeking applications for a postdoctoral or post-
masters researcher in the area of Arabic natural language processing
and corpus linguistics.  The larger project is focused on shallow
semantic parsing of English, Chinese, and Arabic in the context of
automatic question-answering.  The candidate would be working
collaboratively with professors Dan Jurafsky, James Martin, and Wayne
Ward, and the graduate students in their lab.  Research will include
assembling suites of Arabic language processing software, building
Arabic- language corpora, and labeling them semantically.  In addition
to these corpus linguistics skills, the ideal candidate would also
have computational skills to help build statistical models of Arabic
language parsing and semantic parsing, but our initial and core need
is for corpus and tool acquisition.  This position lasts through
August 2003, with possibilities for extension.  The University of
Colorado at Boulder and the Center for Spoken Language Research have
active programs of research in speech and language understanding as
well as computational linguistics and cognitive science.  CSLR is
located in Boulder, a beautiful town at the foot of the Rocky
Mountains.

Required skills:
   - MA or Ph.D. in Linguistics or Computer Science
   - fluency in Arabic
   - familiarity with natural language corpora
   - ability to work as part of a team
   - enough computational knowledge to help install and use Arabic
     language processing software.

Useful skills:
   -  programming ability in UNIX, Perl, C/C++

To apply, please send a CV, a cover letter emphasizing relevant
background, and arrange for 2 letters of reference to be sent, all
(preferably by email) to Ms. Terry Durham at durham at cslr.colorado.edu.

Address for Applications:

	Attn: Ms. Terry Durham
	CSLR (Center for Spoken Language Research)
	University of Colorado, Boulder
	CSLR,
	3215 Marine Street
	Boulder, CO 80303
	United States
Position is open until filled.

Contact Information:
	Ms. Terry Durham.
	Email: durham at cslr.colorado.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:50 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:50 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Lexicographer/Comp. Linguistic Jobs
Message-ID: <WED.26.JUN.2002.170250.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Ali Farghaly <farghaly at systransoft.com>
Subject:Arabic Lexicographer/Comp. Linguistic Jobs

Arabic/Farsi/Urdu Speakers Needed!

One or two positions are available for each of the above language
speakers:

Position:
                lexicographer/computational linguist
                (full time or part-time)

  *The person hired will assist in the development of automatic language
translation software at Systran, the leader in the field of Machine
Translation. The work involves creation of electronic dictionaries,
assistance in creating linguistic rules, and evaluation of translation
results etc

Qualifications:
                -native command of one of the languages listed above
                -extensive knowledge of the grammar of that language
                -familiarity with linguistic concepts
                -fluency in English
                -basic computer skills required
                -computational linguistic experience preferred

Contact:
               By email: elange at systransoft.com
<mailto:elange at systransoft.com>

               SYSTRAN Software,Inc.
               9333 Genesee Ave.,Ste. PL1
               San Diego, CA 92121

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:46 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:46 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic e-mail on Mac response
Message-ID: <WED.26.JUN.2002.170246.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:knut.vikor at smi.uib.no
Subject:Arabic e-mail on Mac response

Dear Friends,
What is the best method for reading and writing Arabic email on the Mac?
Thanks and cheers,
Abu Sammy.

It should work reasonably well with Eudora, when you have installed
the Eudora Middle East tables. Any version of Eudora will do.
<http://www.hf.uib.no/smi/files/eudtab.html>

Perceived problems:

- Arabic text is sometimes displayed in an Arabic font automatically,
sometimes you have to select the font manually (depending on the
sender's email settings). Similar with mail from Arabic Windows
users; if properly labelled it will transcode to Mac Arabic
automatically, if not you have to choose "Arabic Windows" from a
Transliteration menu.

- Periods and colons may cause line layout to be confused (the text
before and after the period is interchanged).

- If the sender has labelled the msg. incorrectly (e.g. as
"Latin-1"), the Arabic may become corrupted. Sometimes you can easily
correct this through the Transliteration menu, sometimes it has
become hopelessly entangled, particularly if it has passed through a
listserv.

Knut

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From: owner-arabic-l at listserv.byu.edu (owner-arabic-l at listserv.byu.edu)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 08:09:04 -0600
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From: </bold>"karibel at voila.fr" <<karibel at voila.fr>

<bold>To: </bold>arabic-l at byu.edu



bonjour


I would like to have the paper on arabic broken plurals publisched in
language and cognitive processes.


thank you and excuse my bad english!


karima

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Jun  1 14:30:26 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:30:26 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Scholarships response
Message-ID: <SAT.1.JUN.2002.083026.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:Dale Frakes <dfrakes at egr.up.edu>
Subject:Scholarships response

While Portland State University (PSU) (http://www.pdx.edu) does not have
an Arabic degree program, they do offer courses in Arabic regularly to
the
3rd year level, with occasional 400 level courses.  They have a Middle
East studies program that requires 3 years of language study.  To that
end, there are 2 scholarships listed in their current bulletin:

Noury Al-Khaledy Scholarship in Arabic Studies. Established in 1995 in
rec-ognition of the contributions of the late Pro-fessor Noury Al-Khaledy
who led the Arabic Language instructional program at PSU for over two
decades. Open to all full-time PSU students of all majors who have
formally studied Arabic in an accredited college for at least two years;
had an outstanding perfor-mance in previous Arabic studies; 3.40 GPA or
higher; and a commitment to successfully complete third-year Arabic at
PSU. School performance and financial need are a major consideration.
(Department of Foreign Languages and Literatures, 393 Neuberger Hall,
503-725-3522.)

Patricia and Gary Leiser Scholarship in Middle Eastern Languages. Annual
award of $500 to an undergraduate engaged in the study of Arabic,
Turkish,
or Persian language at Portland State University. Appli-cants must be
enrolled in a course in one of the above languages during the year for
which the scholarship is granted, complete the course with a passing
grade, and have an overall grade point average of at least 3.25.
Applicants must also demonstrate serious interest in the Middle East by
taking courses on the region, and be a U.S. citizen. (Middle East Studies
Center, 320 East Hall, 503-725-4074).


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Jun  1 14:30:25 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:30:25 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Ancient Egyptian/Arabic relationship query
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Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:Tunde Borka <tundike at hotmail.com>
Subject:Ancient Egyptian/Arabic relationship query

[please respond directly to the queryer]

I am studiyng Arabic (Egyptian) for a year now, and I would like to ask
your help. I am looking for information about the history of the Arabic
language and the possible connections between the Egyptian hieroghlyphs
or demotic writing and modern Arabic.
Could you please tell me your opinion and suggest me some books or
web-sites where I can find answer to me questions?
Thank you very much,
Tunde Borka

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Jun  1 14:30:21 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:30:21 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LIST:list holiday
Message-ID: <SAT.1.JUN.2002.083021.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:moderator
Subject:list holiday

There will be a 1-2 week Arabic-L break beginning now.  Hope you all
have a wonderful summer!
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Jun  1 14:30:22 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:30:22 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Transliteration on PC responses
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3) Subject:Transliteration on PC response

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Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject:Transliteration on PC response

If you are looking for a transliteration system to use in journals,
which do not use the IPA but have a specific set, then you might wish to
get a font design package.  What you could do with that is to make a
copy of a font, such as Times New Roman, and call it something else,
such as My Times New Roman.  In that font, with minimal work, you could
then add the dots and dashes over the required characters.  Finally, you
would install that font.  In this manner, the font will be accessible to
all your Windows applications - selectable from the font drop-down
dialogue box.
If you need the IPA font, you can download that at www.sil.org

Waheed
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2)
Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:Kino <quinon at yhb.att.ne.jp>
Subject:Transliteration on PC response

If you have a Unicode savvy application like AbiWord or MS Word, you'd
better use Unicode fonts containing glyphs used in Arabic
transliteration such as Tyromanes, Arial Unicode MS -- or TITUS Cyberbit
Basic which has a large number of uncommon characters in Private Use
area.

As for Unicode support of your system, see
	<http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/unicode/unitest2.htm>

As for the fonts, you'll find download links at
	<http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/fonts.html>

Maybe you will find useful some of the utilities described in
	<http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/utilities_fonts.html>

Alternatively you can use Symbol fonts like those included in
Encyclopaedia Islam CD. But, with these fonts, it will be difficult to
keep the compatibility of your documents.

Yusuke Kinoshita

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Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:Transliteration on PC response

Universal Word 2000 is UNICODE compliant. It comes in many
language combinations. UW 2000 ML-1 includes the following:

ML-1 Arabic Languages: Arabic, Azeri-Arabic, English, Farsi,
Malay-Jawi, Pashto, Urdu, Transliteration, Int'l. Phonetic. A Free
Demo can be downloaded from http://aramedia.com/uniword.htm

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Sat Jun  1 14:30:24 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2002 08:30:24 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:NYU Summer Teaching Job
Message-ID: <SAT.1.JUN.2002.083024.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  01 Jun 2002
From:Milena Savova <ms93 at nyu.edu>
Subject:NYU Summer Teaching Job

Dear Colleagues,

I am new to this listserve and I would like to introduce myself.  I
direct the Center for Foreign Languages and Translation at New York
University's  School of Continuing and Professional Studies.  We teach
25 languages including standard and colloquial Arabic, Persian and
Turkish.  I regret to say that I don't speak Arabic or Persian but I
like to know about new textbooks, dictionaries, grammar books, etc.
And, above all, I am interested in finding good instructors.

We have a successful and good-sized Arabic language program.  Right
now,  I am looking for someone in the New York City area who can teach
an intensive 3-week daytime course in standard Arabic from June 24 to
July 12.  We have a sophisticated  student body consisting of
successful NY professionals.

Interested colleagues can  contact me at milena.savova at nyu.edu.

Looking forward to hearing from you and to learning from you discussions.

Thank you.
Sincerely,
Milena Savova

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jun 18 22:38:38 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Summer Courses at SOAS
Message-ID: <TUE.18.JUN.2002.163838.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:Sherin Abdel Halim <sa15 at soas.ac.uk>
Subject:Arabic Summer Courses at SOAS

ARABIC LANGUAGE COURSES
Language Centre
School of Oriental and African Studies
University of London

The following is the information regarding our 2002 intensive Summer 
Courses
(Courses are offered Mon-Fri 9.30am-4pm):

1. One-week Survival course in Modern Standard Arabic (25hrs in total).
Dates: 01-Jul-02 to 05-Jul-02  (closing date for applications:  21st June
2002)

2. One-week Survival course in Colloquial Egyptian Dialect (25hrs in 
total).
Dates: 29-Jul-02 to 02-Aug-02  (closing date for applications:  19th July
2002)

3. Two-week Intensive Course in Modern Standard Arabic (50hrs in total).
Dates: 01-Jul-02 to 12-Jul-02  (closing date for applications:  21st June
2002)

4. Two-week Intensive Course in Colloquial Egyptian Dialect (50hrs in
total).
Dates: 29-Jul-02 to 9-Aug-02  (closing date for applications:  19th July
2002)

5. Four-Week Arabic Course - A general preparation for communicating in
Modern Standard Arabic (100hrs in total).
Dates: 01-Jul-02 to 26-Jul-02  (closing date for applications:  21st June
2002)

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:40 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Yale Job
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1)
Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:Maureen Draicchio <maureen.draicchio at yale.edu>
Subject:Yale Job

Yale University
Arabic and Islamic Studies Position

The Department of Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations, invites 
applications for a non-tenure position in Arabic and Islamic Studies at 
the level of assistant or associate professor on term, beginning July 1, 
2003. The successful candidate will teach advanced Modern Standard and 
Classical Arabic and lecture courses in area(s) of specialization in any 
of the fields of the literature, history, and civilization of the Arab 
world. Expertise may lie in the classical period with competence to 
teach courses in the modern, or in the modern period with competence to 
teach courses in the classical. Teaching ability in a major dialect of 
Arabic and familiarity with the use of new media in the classroom are 
welcome.

Send letter of application, CV, bibliography (please do not send copies 
of publications), and three letters of reference to:

Chairman, Arabic Search Committee
Department of Near Eastern Languages & Civilizations
Yale University
P.O. Box 208236
New Haven?? CT 06520-8236

Deadline for submission of application, November 1, 2002
Yale is an Affirmative Action/Equal Opportunity Employer

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jun 18 22:38:45 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:45 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Book:Development of Afro-Asiatic
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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:New Book:Development of Afro-Asiatic

Date:  11 Jun 2002 18:39 GMT
From:  LINCOM.EUROPA at t-online.de (LINCOM EUROPA)
Subject:  Development of Afro-Asiatic (Semito-Hamitic) 
Comparative-Historical Linguistics in Russia and the Former Soviet Union

Development of Afro-Asiatic (Semito-Hamitic)
Comparative-Historical Linguistics in Russia and the Former Soviet
Union

G?bor Tak?cs

This study gives the first science history and a detailed and
extensive scientific appraisal of the works by the Russian school (or
"Moscow school") of Afro-Asiatic (Semito-Hamitic)
comparative-historical linguistics in the past three decades.  The
book contains the following parts: 1. A general overview of roots of
Afro-Asiatic linguistics in Russia before 1965. 2. A concise survey of
development of Afro-Asiatic studies from 1965 in Russia. 3. A most
detailed presentation and critical appraisal of works by the Russian
comparativists on the reconstruction of Afro-Asiatic comparative
phonology and lexicon in the light of research results of other
("Western") scholars (incl. my own observations). 4. A concise
description of the so-called "Nostratic theory" and introduction of
the "Moscow school of comparative linguistics" in the latest three
decades. 5. The work ends with a comprehensive bibliography of all
cited works. This is at the same time the first bibliography that
includes all Russian works on Afro-Asiatic linguistics from 1965.

ISBN 3 89586 591 5.
LINCOM Studies in Afro-Asiatic Linguistics 02.
200 pp. USD 68.90 / EUR 72.10 / ? 44.60. 2nd printing.

Free copies of LINCOM's catalogue 2002 ("project line 12") are now
available from LINCOM.EUROPA at t-online.de.

LINCOM electronic n.e.w.s.l.e.t.t.e.r. :New books in June 2002.
http://www.lincom-europa.com

LINCOM EUROPA, Freibadstr. 3, D-81543 Muenchen, Germany
FAX +49 89 62269404
http://www.lincom-europa.com
LINCOM.EUROPA at t-online.de.


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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Need Levantine Native Speakers for hand held
 translator
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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:Bushra Zawaydeh <bzawayde at bbn.com>
Subject:Need Levantine Native Speakers for hand held translator

BBN Technologies is working on a project to build a hand-held translator
device that will allow limited two-way communication between an English
speaker and speakers of other languages, such as Arabic, Spanish, or
Chinese.  The device is intended to be used by field workers in
developing
countries who may need to provide refugee assistance or disaster relief.

To train the system to understand native speakers, we need to record
native
speakers of Levantine colloquial Arabic (native speakers of Arabic from
Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, or Syria) who will play the part of
host-country
residents answering made-up questions in the domain. Subjects will remain
anonymous, and will be paid $40 for 45 - 60 minutes of their time.  The
recording will take place on the MIT campus or could be arranged
individually.

If you are interested, please send an e-mail to Bushra Zawaydeh
(bzawaydeh at hotmail.com and bushra at bbn.com).

Thank you

Bushra Zawaydeh, Ph.D.
BBN Technologies
tel (617-873-2018)
bzawaydeh at hotmail.com
bushra at bbn.com

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jun 18 22:38:51 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:XML Editor for Arabic Texts Query
Message-ID: <TUE.18.JUN.2002.163851.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:"chafik.aloulou" <chafik.aloulou at fsegs.rnu.tn>
Subject:XML Editor for Arabic Texts Query

Hello everybody,
I am interested?for an XML editor for Arabic Texts.
Thanks in advance,
Chafik
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jun 18 22:38:53 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:38:53 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Linux/Unix support
Message-ID: <TUE.18.JUN.2002.163853.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:Nadim Shaikli <nadim at arabeyes.org>
Subject:Arabic Linux/Unix support

We'd like to inform you that we've been looking into and working hard on
Arab'ising various common linux/unix software packages for the past few
months and have had some success stories with more to come.  The reason
we're contacting you is simple - we __NEED__ your help (in programming,
suggestions, opinions, development, support, direction, translation,
etc).

We've done quite a bit of Internet surfing to see what's available in
terms
of Arabic support and what we've found is somewhat distressing -- there
have
been a number of projects undertaken that were either dropped or
completed
with the authors, unfortunately, moving on (well, disappearing); we're
trying to remedy this problem, among others.  We'd like to further along
this noble cause and it's come to our attention that you might be
interested
in the work we're undertaking; thus, we'd like to invite you to visit our
new site,

         http://www.arabeyes.org     (as in arabize :-)

which we're hoping will become a rallying point to finding all the
necessary
info required to start/continue/finish Arabic support to anything that
has
to do with linux/unix now and in the future (with and without authors
disappearing, this site and community will *continue* :-).  We've
committed
to hosting an anonymous CVS server, a question/answer database, a fonts
collection, a links section (if you'd like us to list your RELEVANT site,
let us know), various mailing-lists (based on need), news, ... and of
course
software :-) all under the Open Source umbrella (GPL license).  The point
is to link-up all the efforts out there and to provide a means and a
forum
to talk and to help each other out (we're trying to rid ourselves from
fragmentation).

We're hoping this will be a grass-roots effort in which decisions are
made
by consensus and by the general feel and attitude of participants.

We currently have 4 mailing-lists grouped in the following manner,

  announce  - Software releases, newsletters, important news
  general   - general discussion topics relating to Arabising software
  developer - software coding issues, C/C++/perl/java/etc (development
work)
  doc       - translation, localisation issues (look-n-feel)

We'd like to invite you to read our archived lists to which we're hoping
you'd consider subscribing so as to lend all of us a helping hand,

         http://www.arabeyes.org/mailman/listinfo

consider looking at 'general' first since it has a wider focus.
You should subscribe to 'announce' at a minimum since it gets the
least amount of traffic and will keep you informed of any new
developments.

PLEASE NOTE - we're not intending this effort to turn into or become a
political/religious/spiritual/commercial forum (that will not be
tolerated).
We just want to see Arabic and linux commonplace and will participate in
major OpenSource efforts to augment their needs and to provide
fixes/patches
to existing programs as well as to start our own (we want our work/code
to make it to the 'main' branches of packages we concentrate on).  We're
very committed to this effort and are not simply intending to complain;
we fully intend to code and get dirt under our fingernails :-)

Our motto has been dictated to us - 'if you can't help yourself, then
don't expect others to help you !!'.  We urge you to rise to the
challenge and lend a helping hand.

Many thanks & we look forward to hearing from you on www.arabeyes.org

  - The arabeyes.org Team

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Jun 18 22:39:02 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 16:39:02 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Transliteration on PC Responses
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1)
Date:  18 Jun 2002
From:Paul Nelson <paulnel at winse.microsoft.com>
Subject:Transliteration on PC Response

Making a copy of Times New Roman or any other font, renaming it and 
making modifications without the permission of the font vendor is 
expressly prohibited by copyright and other laws.
?
If you have Windows XP you may find that Times New Roman has the letters 
you require, or most of them, already. We are also in the process of 
adding full support for IPA and latin combining marks in all of our core 
fonts for the next version of Windows.
?
Regards,
?
Paul Nelson
Microsoft Typography

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 19 20:18:21 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:18:21 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs books written in Levantine dialect
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1) Subject:Needs books written in Levantine dialect; how to write
dialects in Arabic script?

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Date:  19 Jun 2002
From:Bushra Zawaydeh <bzawaydeh at hotmail.com>
Subject:Needs books written in Levantine dialect; how to write dialects
in Arabic script?


Hello
I was wondering if anybody knows about books written in the Arabic
Levantine dialects of Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine? Also, does
anybody know if there are transcription guidelines of how to write the
dialects in Arabic script?

thanks
Bushra

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 19 20:18:32 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:18:32 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Doesn't buy fonts restrictions or moderation
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Date:  19 Jun 2002
From:Gregg Reynolds <greynolds at greynolds.com>
Subject:Doesn't buy fonts restrictions or moderation


> Making a copy of Times New Roman or any other font, renaming it and
> making modifications without the permission of the font vendor is
> expressly prohibited by copyright and other laws.

I'm not a lawyer, but this strikes me as obviously untrue.  I think
copyright laws only forbid you to sell such copies modified or not.  If
you want to make such copies and modifications for your own use you're
free to do so, so long as you've purchased the original.  As to whether
or not that includes using such derived fonts to put actual ink on paper
(e.g. publish a book) I'm not so sure, but I'll bet it's allowed, since
typefaces are not protected by copyright, only the font programs that
generate the inking instructions (which is what "font" means for
computers).  And another thing, why on earth is this list censored, er,
moderated?  I don't see how such practice adds any value whatsoever.  On
the contrary.

-gregg

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 19 20:18:34 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:18:34 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Software for school learners query
Message-ID: <WED.19.JUN.2002.141834.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  19 Jun 2002
From:Ola Moshref <Ola.Moshref at zu.ac.ae>
Subject:Software for school learners query

Hello,
People interested in education asked me about software that could be
used as a teaching aid for school learners of MSA in Arab countries. I
only know of cartoon films, but is there any more educational oriented
software available?

Ola Moshref
Instructor
Arabic Language Center
Zayed University
Abu Dhabi - P.O. Box 4783
Dir Tel: 971-2- 4079611
Fax: +9712 4434847

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 19 20:19:19 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:19:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Why the list is censored
Message-ID: <WED.19.JUN.2002.141919.0600.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date:  19 Jun 2002
From:moderator
Subject:Why the list is censored

> why on earth is this list censored, er, moderated?  I don't see how
> such practice adds any value whatsoever.  On the contrary.

The reason the list is censored\moderated is to keep it on task.  From
my point of view this makes it a much more useful list for those for
whom it is designed.  It keeps the postings (relatively) infrequent,
which tends to increase the number of 'key' people willing to stay
subscribed, which means that if there is a job or book posting, you can
be relatively certain that everyone who should see it will see it.  It
makes it a much more annoying list for those who want to post out of
those subject areas and for advertisers, but I figure that they have a
lot of places to post, and there isn't really anything else like
Arabic-L for Arabic language teachers and linguists.

To give an example of an unmoderated list which became extremely
annoying, I subscribed to a list called ARACOM many years ago.  The
topic was supposed to be Arabic and Computers.  However, it being
unmonitored the topics were sometimes political, but over time became
more and more simply advertisements for mortgages, viagra and
pornography.  I tried to unsubscribe several times but seem unable to do
so.  I haven't gotten an 'on task' message for years, but finally simply
had to filter out EVERYTHING from ARACOM since I was getting up to 80
unwanted messages a day.

I currently get about 40 'error messages' to Arabic-L a day from such
advertisers of things that have nothing to do with Arabic.  If the list
were unmoderated, they would all come through to you.  Is anyone
interested in getting these ads?  I can certainly pass them on if you
like.

Admittedly, any 'editorial/moderating/censuring' hand has to make many
decisions on a daily basis that everyone might not agree with, since
there are many postings right at the edge, and others just over it.  I
try to be as fair as I can, but I am aware that I make some people mad.
For that I apologize.  I sometimes feel that I need to cut off
discussion on a particular topic that has had a number of exchanges
(although if the engagers in the discussion want to continue it among
themselves to some conclusion I would then post a summary), and I
sometimes feel that the tone of a message is simply a little too angry
for posting, or the humor a little too offensive.  However, I have
posted many messages that were right on the edge in each of these areas,
and in general I post everything that is 'on subject' that comes
through, with VERY few exceptions, even messages that I personally
disagree with or that I feel are simply stupid.  Whenever I post 'on the
edge' messages, I get replies telling me that it should have been
considered 'over the edge' and not posted.  This tells me that there are
at least some out there who appreciated the editorial hand, and probably
wish it would be a bit stronger.  I'm sure, as well, that many others
want it to be weaker.  'Tis a puzzlement.

To review, Arabic-L posts messages in the areas of Arabic Linguistics
(LING), Arabic Language Teaching (PEDA), and Arabic Literature (LIT)
(although literature posts are somewhat rare), in addition to things
that Arabic Language teachers and linguists might be interested in that
are related, particularly having to do with Arabic and computers and
transliteration issues (GEN).  I will post ads (labelled AD) on occasion
when it appears to be advertising a new product that I feel many people
probably do not know about, but will not post repeated ads for the same
thing.  After some discussion on the list, it was decided that I would
also post translation queries (how do you say this word in Arabic?),
labelled with TRANS. I also try to post all Arabic related jobs (either
teaching, translating or related), and any new article or book that
comes across.  Also, information about Arabic language programs and
summer programs throughout the world.   I would love to post reviews as
well, but none have really been forthcoming.

The labels allow people to delete messages they are not interested in
without opening them.

I will not post a whole quoted message with a reply.  I will however
post a quote of the relevant part of a message if the sender of the
reply prepares it that way (see this message).  I usually, however, will
not do the preparation for the sender.  In other words, if you just hit
'reply' and type your message somewhere among the quoted material, I
will simply post the message without the quoted material.

I will not post attachments.  If I can easily open an attachment and
copy its contents into the body of the message, I will do it, but if I
have trouble, I simply don't post.

I hope that clarifies things, and I also hope that there are many who
continue to find Arabic-L useful.  I am wiling to receive other
complaints and suggestions if you have them but can't always promise a
reply.

Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:25 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:25 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:School software responses
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1) Subject:School software response
2) Subject:School software response

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1)
Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Iman Soliman <halleluiah3 at yahoo.com>
Subject:School software response

Dear Ola
In Egypt  now we have all the national curriculum on
CDs for the students.  (of course not a governmental
project but a private one)
But I think this might be out of the Abo Dhabi
educational context.  There are a few programmes
developed by Sakhr Comapany that do help teach Arabic.
  some of them are concerned with Arabic grammar.  They
also have a lot of programmes and stories on cds. I
think you could contact them directly and see what you
can use according to your age group.
I hope you find this information helpful
Iman A. soliman

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:GnhBos at aol.com
Subject:School software response

Electronic Resources for teaching arabic are available from AramediA at:

http://www.aramedia.com/atutors.htm

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:27 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Font restrictions
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Andrew Freeman <andyf at umich.edu>
Subject:Font restrictions

Actually I think that the typefaces are copyrighted.  That is why you
get "Times" vs. "Times New Roman."  There is some slight difference
noticeable to a font designer, that allows the designer not to pay a
royalty to AGFA which holds the copyright on Times.

I, of course am not a lawyer but this has been my impresion about the
state of affairs for more than 20 years now.
cheers,
andy
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Paul Nelson <paulnel at winse.microsoft.com>
Subject:Font restrictions

I'm not a lawyer, but this strikes me as obviously untrue.  I think
copyright laws only forbid you to sell such copies modified or not.  If

you want to make such copies and modifications for your own use you're
free to do so, so long as you've purchased the original.

Fonts are software and are copyrighted...just as a book is copyrighted.
The electronic data of a font is protected intellectual property and
cannot legally be modified without the explicit concent of the owner of
the data.

Adobe encourages people to modify their fonts directly because they
don't want to make custom fonts. Monotype, who owns Times New Roman, is
happy to make private versions of fonts for people and stay in business
by doing just that.

Paul Nelson

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Gregg Reynolds <greynolds at greynolds.com>
Subject:Font restrictions

I'm not a lawyer, but this strikes me as obviously untrue.  I think
copyright laws only forbid you to sell such copies modified or not.  If

you want to make such copies and modifications for your own use you're
free to do so, so long as you've purchased the original.

Fonts are software and are copyrighted...just as a book is copyrighted.
The electronic data of a font is protected intellectual property and
cannot legally be modified without the explicit concent of the owner of
the data.


"Cannot be modified"?  This is clearly untrue. The doctrine of "fair
use" permits lots of kinds of copying and modification of works under
copyright; in particular, it looks to me like a teacher could legally
copy and modify a font for educational and/or research purposes.
Artists do all kinds of copying and reproducing of copyrighted works for
artistic purposes.  I'd be very surprised if fair use for
educational/research purposes did not cover the case of an individual
copying and modifying a legally obtained font for all kinds of private
projects.  For example, in order to study the internal code design of a
professionally produced font.

But not being a lawyer myself I'm not 100% certain of the details.  Are
you a lawyer with the required specialization in copyright?  Fair use is
a pretty complex area, not nearly as clear-cut as your remarks make it
sound.  Do you represent Microsoft?  If so I'd check with legal before
pronouncing on copyright law.  I would certainly appreciate correction
by competent legal opinion if I've gotten this all wrong.

The thing I'm not sure about is the legality of using my own modified
copy of a font to produce printed works for redistribution.  My guess is
that the law isn't especially clear in this are yet.  Consider an
analogy:  I buy a compiler, modify it, and use the modified version to
produce software.  Can I redistribute the software?  As a legal issue
this is clearly off-topic for this list; but the issue of using modified
fonts to print materials does seem to have relevance, since we're not
exactly drowning in Arabic fonts.  For example, suppose I have a
favorite Arabic font and I need a glyph for the Egyptian colloquial
qaf.  It seems fair to me to modify the font I own by copying and
altering its qaf.  So long as I don't redistribute the font itself I
don't think I've harmed the copyright owner's interests by printing a
book using the modified font.  Can anybody out there offer a competent
legal opinion on this?

Also, companies (e.g. Microsoft) generally don't sell software, they
license it, and I have no idea where that leaves the consumer wrt
copyright law.  Maybe it doesn't even apply.

Here's the url for the US Copyright Office's circular on the basics:
http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html

Fair use:  http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#107  also
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.notes.html

Fontlab sells professional font design software, and on their website
they make a font or two available without copyright restrictions,
specifically for use as a starting point in designing new fonts.  I've
not looked at them myself so I don't know if they're any good.
http://www.fontlab.com

Anyway that's my two cents; I'm not looking for a debate on the issue,
which I'm sure can be found on other law-oriented lists.  Since the
censor of this list has helpfully de-threaded the messages, I'm unable
to refer to the originating message, but I hope this serves to de-FUD
things a little.

-gregg

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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:31 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New paper
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Sami Boudelaa <sami.boudelaa at mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk>
Subject:New paper

[Sami sent me a PDF of the following paper.  I don't post attachments,
but if you would like an electronic copy, I imagine that Sami would be
happy to send it ot you.--Dil]

Enclosed is a  PDF of a recent paper on Arabic broken plurals published
in Language and Cognitive Processes, 2002 17 (3), 321-343. I thought it
might be of interest to some people on the list.
Sami

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:29 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:29 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Levantine books responses
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Srpko Lestaric <srpkole at EUnet.yu>
Subject:Levantine books response

Dear Bushra,
?
There must be lots of such books. Try, first of all, a masterpiece of a 
folkloristic effort:?
?
?
'ibraahiim muhawwi & shariif kanaa3ina: quul yaa Tayr... nuSuuS wa 
diraasa fi al-Hikaaya al-sha3biyya al-filasTiiniyya, Tab3a 3arabiyya 
munaqqaHa; mu'assasa al-diraasaat al-filasTiiniyya 2001 (Institute For 
Palestine Studies, E-mail: ipsbrt at cyberia.net.lb). The book was first 
issued as an English translation entitled?"Speak, Bird, Speak Again": 
Palestinian Arab Folktales, Ibrahim Muhawi and Sharif Kanaana. 
University of California Press, 1989.
?
Another one from bilaad ash-shaam that comes to mind this moment would 
be also a superb compilation (35 genuine folk tales in Jerusalem 
vernacular) and a successful sample too how to transcribe al-3aammiyya 
by the Arabic letters:
?
Modern Arabic Tales,?by Enno Littmann, PH. D., volume I, Arabic text, E. 
J. Brill, Leyden 1905 (Part VI of The Publications of an American 
Archaeological Expedition to Syria in 1899-1900 - Under The Patronage of 
V. Everit Macy, Clarence M. Hyde, B. Talbot B. Hyde and I. N. Phelps 
Stokes).
?
As for how to write dialects in Arabic script -- well, I dare say the 
best way is to do that as simple as possible, for the relationship 
between different aspects of the Arabic spoken dialects and the system 
of, say, classical Arabic script is somewhat complicated. One must at 
any rate know that very dialect to read correctly what you put down on 
paper.
?
You can perhaps try to discuss the matter with Mr. Muhawi, who is pretty 
competent?-- he teaches translatology and the Arabic literature at 
University of Edinburgh:? <Ibrahim.Muhawi at ed.ac.uk>.
?
Best regards,
Srpko Lestaric

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Jan Hoogland <j.hoogland at let.kun.nl>
Subject:Levantine books response

Hi Bushra,
That's an interesting topic.
I don't know anything about written Levantine dialects.
I can only tell you about written Moroccan dialect. It seems there are 
no rules at all. Any writer can just use his own set of orthograpic 
rules, not only considering representation of consonants or vowels, but 
also considering morphological phenomena like writing the negation 
ma - ... - sh attached to a word or not.
Funny things happen. For example you may notice someone who adds an alif 
to any verb conjugation ending in a long vowel u. (similar to the 3th 
person plural perfect verb in fusha).
In Moroccan Arabic the 3rd person masculin singular suffix can be -u or 
-h depending on the preceding sound (u after consonant, h after vowel).
Some writers, doing their best to represent the spoken language as 
closely as possible, will do this in their writing too.

Since Egyptian 'amiyyah is written quite often too, and even some novels 
have been published in dialect (I remember to have read this once), 
their might be some guidelines there?
Maybe Manfred Woidich can tell us about that?

Please keep us informed on your findings.
Jan

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:35 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:35 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic HTML Package query
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Martha Schulte-Nafeh <marthas at u.arizona.edu>
Subject:Arabic HTML Package query

Greetings from the desert in Tucson

I am about to embark on a project to produce an Arabic class web page on
which I want to have both English and Arabic. Back in April there was a
request to this list about software tools available for such a project.
Reviewing that discussion it seems that the following are available:
(with
contributors names in parentheses)

1. NasherNet by Sakhr (mentioned by Paul Roochnik)
2. FrontPage 2002 (Stephen Franke, Jamal Qureshi)
3. Creating Arabic in Word 2000, exporting it as HTML and then building
the
website with Macromedia's HomeSite (Jan M. Zenker)

NasherNet is probably an excellent software but I would not be able to
get
any support for it on my campus so I steer away from it (also, it is
quite
expensive I believe). I was thinking of using FrontPage 2002,
particularly
because that software has a built in feature that allows you to create
online questionnaires easily and this is one of the features I want on my
site. However, a number of people have indicated to me that FrontPage is
limiting in the long run, and is somewhat "buggy" (although easier to
learn
initially) and so I am now thinking of going with something more like
option
3 - except using Macromedia's Dreamweaver, which apparently incorporated
HomeSite, and supports Unicode so should be able to handle Arabic and
English on the same page. The fact that the software has a somewhat
higher
learning curve than FrontPage 2002 should not be a problem as I have a
small
amount of grant money to pay someone else to actually develop this page
for
me. I am just involving myself in the tools selection phase and then will
step back from the project, other than to tell the developer what I want
on
the site.

I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with using Dreamweaver
to
do Arabic and English web pages? Also, if anyone has additional
information
regarding any of the above tools or others that I might consider, I would
like to hear about them.

Thanks for your input,

Peace,
Martha

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:37 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:37 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Looking for Computer Corpus
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:"sattar.izwaini at stud.umist.ac.uk"
<Sattar.Izwaini at student.umist.ac.uk>
Subject:Looking for Computer Corpus

Dear list members
I am looking for Arabic translated texts in the field of information
technology in general and computer in particular. Such texts can
be online help files of software, especially Mac (but not Windows)
or any translated texts in this field, e.g. books, articles, web
sites/links, manuals etc.

I will be grateful for any help or tip.

Sattar Izwaini
PhD Candidate
Department of Language and Linguistics
UMIST
PO Box 88
Manchester M60 1QD
England

Tel.+44 161 200 3074
Fax +44 161 200 3091

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:33 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:33 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic e-mail on Mac query
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Paul Roochnik <paul at TranslationGuy.com>
Subject:Arabic e-mail on Mac query

Dear Friends,
What is the best method for reading and writing Arabic email on the Mac?
Thanks and cheers,
Abu Sammy.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:39 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:39 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Gulf Pidgin Paper
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Abdul-Qadir Wiswall?<wiswallwiswall at hotmail.com>
Subject:Gulf Pidgin Paper

I saw the query about Gulf Pidgin.??A paper I recently completed for the 
Ohio University Linguistics Department is listed on my website under 
research: "Gulf Pidgin: a reanalysis."

The address is http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~aw321500/

Please let me know what you think.

Thank you.

Abdul-Qadir

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:43 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:TRANS:Ta'nafah
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:"Schub, Michael" <michael.schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:Ta'nafah

What does  /Ta'nafah/  mean??  [With velarized Taa' and hamza].

      Thank you.                   Mike Schub

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:41 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:41 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Semitic Computation Workshop
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:mros1 at cs.um.edu.mt
Subject:Semitic Computation Workshop

//////////////////////
CALL FOR PARTICIPATION
//////////////////////
ACL02 WORKSHOP ON
COMPUTATIONAL APPROACHES TO SEMITIC LANGUAGES
/////////////////////////////////////////////
University of Pennsylvania
Thursday   11  July,  2002
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Invited Speaker: Sergei Nirenburg, CRL, New Mexico

//////
THEMES
//////

Which areas are suitable for common research and for the pooling of
resources?

What are the limitations of established techniques and tools when
applied to Semitic languages?

What are the themes of interest to a Special Interest Group for Semitic
Languages?


Further Details: http://www.cs.um.edu.mt/~mros/WSL
or contact mike.rosner at um.edu.mt or shuly at cs.haifa.ac.il

Registration: http://www.acl02.org

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Post-Doc in Arabic Natural Language Processing
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From: jurafsky at colorado.edu
Subject:Post-Doc in Arabic Natural Language Processing

University or Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Rank of Job: Post Doc
Specialty Areas Required: Any
Required Language(s): Arabic, Standard (Code = ABV)

Description:

Boulder, in coordination with the Departments of Computer Science and
Linguistics, is seeking applications for a postdoctoral or post-
masters researcher in the area of Arabic natural language processing
and corpus linguistics.  The larger project is focused on shallow
semantic parsing of English, Chinese, and Arabic in the context of
automatic question-answering.  The candidate would be working
collaboratively with professors Dan Jurafsky, James Martin, and Wayne
Ward, and the graduate students in their lab.  Research will include
assembling suites of Arabic language processing software, building
Arabic- language corpora, and labeling them semantically.  In addition
to these corpus linguistics skills, the ideal candidate would also
have computational skills to help build statistical models of Arabic
language parsing and semantic parsing, but our initial and core need
is for corpus and tool acquisition.  This position lasts through
August 2003, with possibilities for extension.  The University of
Colorado at Boulder and the Center for Spoken Language Research have
active programs of research in speech and language understanding as
well as computational linguistics and cognitive science.  CSLR is
located in Boulder, a beautiful town at the foot of the Rocky
Mountains.

Required skills:
   - MA or Ph.D. in Linguistics or Computer Science
   - fluency in Arabic
   - familiarity with natural language corpora
   - ability to work as part of a team
   - enough computational knowledge to help install and use Arabic
     language processing software.

Useful skills:
   -  programming ability in UNIX, Perl, C/C++

To apply, please send a CV, a cover letter emphasizing relevant
background, and arrange for 2 letters of reference to be sent, all
(preferably by email) to Ms. Terry Durham at durham at cslr.colorado.edu.

Address for Applications:

	Attn: Ms. Terry Durham
	CSLR (Center for Spoken Language Research)
	University of Colorado, Boulder
	CSLR,
	3215 Marine Street
	Boulder, CO 80303
	United States
Position is open until filled.

Contact Information:
	Ms. Terry Durham.
	Email: durham at cslr.colorado.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Jun 26 23:02:50 2002
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:50 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Lexicographer/Comp. Linguistic Jobs
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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:Ali Farghaly <farghaly at systransoft.com>
Subject:Arabic Lexicographer/Comp. Linguistic Jobs

Arabic/Farsi/Urdu Speakers Needed!

One or two positions are available for each of the above language
speakers:

Position:
                lexicographer/computational linguist
                (full time or part-time)

  *The person hired will assist in the development of automatic language
translation software at Systran, the leader in the field of Machine
Translation. The work involves creation of electronic dictionaries,
assistance in creating linguistic rules, and evaluation of translation
results etc

Qualifications:
                -native command of one of the languages listed above
                -extensive knowledge of the grammar of that language
                -familiarity with linguistic concepts
                -fluency in English
                -basic computer skills required
                -computational linguistic experience preferred

Contact:
               By email: elange at systransoft.com
<mailto:elange at systransoft.com>

               SYSTRAN Software,Inc.
               9333 Genesee Ave.,Ste. PL1
               San Diego, CA 92121

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 17:02:46 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic e-mail on Mac response
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1) Subject:Arabic e-mail on Mac response

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Date:  26 Jun 2002
From:knut.vikor at smi.uib.no
Subject:Arabic e-mail on Mac response

Dear Friends,
What is the best method for reading and writing Arabic email on the Mac?
Thanks and cheers,
Abu Sammy.

It should work reasonably well with Eudora, when you have installed
the Eudora Middle East tables. Any version of Eudora will do.
<http://www.hf.uib.no/smi/files/eudtab.html>

Perceived problems:

- Arabic text is sometimes displayed in an Arabic font automatically,
sometimes you have to select the font manually (depending on the
sender's email settings). Similar with mail from Arabic Windows
users; if properly labelled it will transcode to Mac Arabic
automatically, if not you have to choose "Arabic Windows" from a
Transliteration menu.

- Periods and colons may cause line layout to be confused (the text
before and after the period is interchanged).

- If the sender has labelled the msg. incorrectly (e.g. as
"Latin-1"), the Arabic may become corrupted. Sometimes you can easily
correct this through the Transliteration menu, sometimes it has
become hopelessly entangled, particularly if it has passed through a
listserv.

Knut

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From: </bold>"karibel at voila.fr" <<karibel at voila.fr>

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bonjour


I would like to have the paper on arabic broken plurals publisched in
language and cognitive processes.


thank you and excuse my bad english!


karima

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