From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:11:51 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:11:51 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Wellesley job
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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From:reposted from Arabic-Info
Subject:Wellesley job

Wellesley College invites applications for a first-level tenure-track
position in Arabic, beginning in the Fall of 2003.  Applications from
candidates with up to two years of full-time teaching experience
post-Ph.D. will be considered.  The successful candidate will be
responsible for the teaching of Elementary and Intermediate Modern
Standard Arabic, and may have the opportunity to teach courses in
advanced
language and literature.  Native or near-native proficiency in Arabic is
required, and language teaching experience is preferred.  Please send a
letter of application, curriculum vitae, graduate transcripts,
syllabuses
and teaching materials if available, and three letters of reference to
Arabic Search Committee, c/o Department of Religion, Wellesley College,
106 Central Street, Wellesley, MA 02481.  Review of applications begins
March 1, 2003.

Wellesley College is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action educational
institution and employer; successful candidates must be able to work
effectively in a culturally diverse environment.  Applications from
women,
minorities, veterans, and candidates with disabilities are encouraged.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:11:54 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:11:54 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Dialect on Arabic Disney Films query
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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: ArabLDS <ArabLDS at hotmail.com>
Subject:Dialect on Arabic Disney Films query

I've found at least one place online that sells Disney DVDs in Arabic.
Can
anyone on Arabic-L tell me if Disney does their Arabic voice-overs in
Fusha,
Egyptian, or some other dialect?  Thanks!

Jamal Qureshi

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:11:57 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:11:57 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Summer Arabic Course in UAE
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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: maria.emiraten at passagen.se
Subject:Summer Arabic Course in UAE

The Gulf Arabic Programme based in the desert town of Al Ain, UAE runs a
four week intensive course in colloquial Gulf Arabic every summer, this
summer
from 5th to 30th July.  The course is for beginners, though students are
expected to have mastered the Arabic alphabet before they arrive.  All
our
teachers are native speakers from the region.

We also run courses and tutorials tailored to a variety of levels for
individuals
and private classes on demand.

We can arrange furnished flats if needed (please contact us for more
details).

For more information, visit our website at www.gapschool.net, download
our
summer programme brochure from
http://www.gapschool.net/Downloads/download.htm
and/or e-mail us at info at gapschool.net

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:12:02 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:12:02 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:DC area Arabic Course responses
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1) Subject:DC area Arabic Course response

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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Jill Jenkins <jtj8 at email.byu.edu>
Subject:DC area Arabic Course response

There is a program in Fairfax, VA which is about 30 minutes from DC. It
is
very reasonable compared to the other classes in the area and I believe
they
teach Fusha exclusively.

Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences of America, 8500 Hilltop Road,
Fairfax, VA 22031
Phone: 703-641-4890, Fax: 703-641-4899
E-mail: info at iiasa.org, Internet: http://www.iiasa.org
Notes: The Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America (IIASA)
is an
educational and research institution.
Among the various activities of the Institute are teaching Arabic and
Islamic courses, and undertaking
research in Islamic studies. IIASA has a prayer hall, and offers
Jumma/Friday Prayer at 1:30 p.m.

Jill Jenkins
jjenkins at gmu.edu

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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Gaye Price <gprice at uop.edu>
Subject:DC area Arabic Course response

Dear Dorata Kowalska,
I am not up on current programs in WDC, but at one time, the Middle
East Institute on N St. in Washington, D.C. offered very reputable
courses in beginning, intermediate and advanced MSA.  You might want to
check with them to see what they are offering nowadays.  Generally, the
courses were offered in the evening, two or three evenings per week.
And they did have a summer program as well as a program for the academic
year.  Their fees were considerably less than G.U.'s.  Good luck.
Gaye Walton-Price

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:11:59 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:11:59 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Al-Kitaab Workshop at NECTFL
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1) Subject:Al-Kitaab Workshop at NECTFL

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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Gail Grella <GRELLAG1 at georgetown.edu>
Subject:Al-Kitaab Workshop at NECTFL

  Georgetown University Press Announces
A Workshop for Teachers of Arabic
in conjunction with  the 50th Meeting of the
Northeast Conference on the Teaching of Foreign Languages (NECTFL)

  Teaching Arabic Using Al-Kitaab Textbook Series

Sunday, April 13, 2003,  9:00 a.m-4:00 p.m.
Omni-Shoreham Hotel, Washington D.C.


     This one-day hands-on workshop is designed for teachers of Arabic in
general and those using or interested in using Al-Kitaab Arabic textbook
series in particular.  The workshop, led by two series authors Kristen
Brustad and Mahmoud Al-Batal, will present techniques and exercises for
teaching these materials in ways that help students develop listening,
reading, speaking, writing and cultural skills in Arabic at the
elementary, intermediate, and advanced levels.

     The workshop will be organized as follows:

    9:00-9:45 am Philosophy and methodology of the materials; defining
      roles of teacher and learner
    9:45-10:45  Teaching vocabulary
    11:00-12:00  Teaching the main text
    12:00-1:00  Lunch (hosted by Georgetown University Press).
    1:00-1:45  Teaching grammar
    2:00-2:45  Teaching reading
    3:00-4:00   Designing a syllabus; discussion and wrap up.

Teachers interested in registering for the workshop and conference
should contact:
The Northeast Conference
Dickinson College
P.O. Box 1773
Carlisle PA 17013-2896
Tel. 717-245-1977
Fax 717-245-1976
www.nectfl.org.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:12:04 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:12:04 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:pronunciation responses
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2) Subject:pronunciation response
3) Subject:pronunciation response
4) Subject:pronunciation response
5) Subject:pronunciation thanks

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1)
Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Joost Kremers <j.kremers at let.kun.nl>
Subject: pronunciation response

> May i ask how to pronounce the middle name of
> Dr. Huda Smitshuijzen AbiFarès, who wrote "Arabic Typography:
> A Comprehensive Sourcebook" ?
>
> sh-mit-shuiy-ts-en ?
> sh-mi-chui-jen ???

It's a Dutch name, and 'Huda' being a feminine name, I suspect it's not  
her
middle name but the name of her husband. The pronunciation is roughly:

smits-hui-zen

So the -ts belong to the first syllable, the second syllable starts with
the h. The combination 'uij' (including the 'j'!) is a diphpthong that's
rare in other languages. (I don't know of any language that has it.)  
It's
roughly a French u + i. Most foreign speakers replace it with the sound  
of
'ow' in English 'now'. Furthermore, the -i- in 'Smits-' is like in  
English
'in', and the -e- is a schwa. Stress is on the first syllable.

Hope this is enough information. :-)

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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Daniel Newman <d.newman at planetinternet.be>
Subject: pronunciation response

Hello,

The Dutch name 'Smitshuijzen' is pronounced as follows (IPA  
transcription):
/'smits-hœyzen/

Regards,
Daniel Newman

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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Klaus Lagally <lagally at informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
Subject: pronunciation response

Assuming the name is in Dutch, I would pronounce it: smits-hoy-zen

Klaus Lagally

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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: "Raven, Wim" <raven at em.uni-frankfurt.de>
Subject: pronunciation response

Being Dutch, I think I can answer this question. SInce the answer seems  
to
be required for creating a Japanese spelling for this name, I think I  
can
refrain form phonetical alphabets or over-refinement. Please pronouce  
as if
it were an English word: Smits - hoy - zen   (zen as in Zen-Buddhism)  
and
you are near to the truth.

Best wishes,
Wim Raven

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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Haruko SAKAEDANI <yosiyasu at aa.tufs.ac.jp>
Subject: pronunciation thanks

 From the Japanese who asked the pronunciation of "Smitshuijzen,"
Thank you so much for your immediate responses.
Shukran.  Merci 'awi.  Motashakkiriin.
Haruko

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:34:42 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:34:42 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIST:How to get digest version of Arabic-L
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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From:moderator
Subject:How to get digest version of Arabic-L

As you have noticed, I send out messages on Arabic-L once or twice a
week.  Sometimes there are quite a few of them at once, because of this
pattern.  If you would like to receive the messages all in one message
(i.e. one message a day, a compilation of all the messages sent that
day), then send a message to:

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with the message:

set arabic-l mail digest

According to my info, the digest is sent out each day at 00:01.

IMPORTANT: This message MUST be sent from the same address that you
subscribed to Arabic-L from.  Most e-mail programs let you send
messages from a variety of return addresses, and most of you have a
variety of aliases, so try to remember which one you used when you
signed up, and use it again with this command, and in general when
sending messages to Arabic-L.  If you need me to look up what address
you used when you signed up, let me know.

Good luck.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:44 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:44 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Book
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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From:from LINGUIST
Subject:New Book

Watson, Janet C. E. (2002) The Phonology and Morphology of Arabic.
Oxford University Press, xiii+307pp, hardback ISBN 0-19-925759-0,
The Phonology of the World's Languages.
    Announced at http://linguistlist.org/issues/13/13-3262.html

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:35 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:35 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Washington U job
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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: Shaaron Benjamin <smbenjam at artsci.wustl.edu>
Subject:Washington U job

Washington University in St. Louis invites applications for a full-time
renewable Lecturer position in Modern Standard Arabic Language
beginning August 2003.  Responsibilities will include teaching Arabic
language at all levels. Requirements include an M.A. or higher in
Arabic language, linguistics, second-language acquisition or related
fields. Candidates must possess a native or near-native command of
Arabic, and provide evidence of commitment to language teaching. Send
letter of application with supporting materials  (curriculum vitae,
three letters of recommendation, sample syllabi or Teaching Portfolio,
and if possible, video of teaching) to Chair, Arabic Search Committee,
Department of Asian and Near Eastern Languages and Literatures,
Washington University, Campus Box 1111, One Brookings Drive, St. Louis,
MO  63130-4899. Consideration of applicants will begin on March 1, 2003
and continue until the position is filled. E-mail inquiries should be
directed to . Telephone inquiries to 314 935-5156. Washington
University is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action employer. Women
and members of minority groups are encouraged to apply.


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:31 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:31 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs orthography/spoken studies
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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: aquilr at georgetown.edu
Subject:Needs orthography/spoken studies

Hello to all.

I have replicated Melher et al.81 study of syllable monitoring on
Cairene spoken Arabic and found that Arabic script and orthography
effected processing/accessing spoken Arabic syllables. I was wondering
if anyone could lead me to studies investigating the effect of
orthography specifically Arabic on processing Arabic spoken
language.   I would also like to ask if anybody knows about references
on deletions or contraction-like phonological processes in Egyptian
colloquial Arabic.

Thanks in advance.

Rajaa Aquil
aquilr at georgetown.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:33 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:33 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:DC area courses
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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: Shawn Greenstreet <shawngsjunk at hotmail.com>
Subject:DC area courses

I've taken Arabic courses at the USDA's Graduate School Evening
Language Classes Program in downtown DC.
http://grad.usda.gov/programs_services/evening/evening_weekend.cfm
Its cheaper than GU or MEI but it is only one night a week. I've had a
mixed experience there. Some teachers have been great and some needed
to be fired. They teach Fusha from "al kitaab fi taalm..."
Good luck!
Shawn

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:37 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:37 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Disney Films dialect responses
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1) Subject:Disney Films dialect response
2) Subject:Disney Films dialect response
3) Subject:Disney Films dialect response

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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: Martha Schulte-Nafeh <marthas at u.arizona.edu>
Subject:Disney Films dialect response

I have  a copy of the Lion King that is done in Egyptian Arabic.
Peace,
Martha

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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: dparvaz at mac.com
Subject:Disney Films dialect response


> I've found at least one place online that sells Disney DVDs in Arabic.
>  Can
> anyone on Arabic-L tell me if Disney does their Arabic voice-overs in
> Fusha,
> Egyptian, or some other dialect?  Thanks!

The Disney videos I have for my kids (101 Dalmatians, The Lion King,
Pocohontas) are all done in Cairene, as far as I can tell. And they're
done pretty well, IMHO.
Cheers,
Dan.

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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:Disney Films dialect response

Several years ago a company in Cairo began hiring my graduates to
translate
Disney productions
into Egyptian colloquial Arabic. I can't remember its name  off of the
top of
my head, but I can get it
for you if you need.  Those may be the products you are referring to.

There was a time when western cartoons were dubbed in fusha - a very odd
practice in my opinion.
At that time, the number of such cartoons available in Arabic were few.
  The
company undertaking
the translation was Lebanese.  With the advent of satellite
broadcasting, the
number of cartoons
available has increased considerably, and it is rare to find one dubbed
in
fusha.

The number of companies undertaking the translation has also increased.
  Some
- maybe all - the
satellite channels such as ART and the Showtime Network hire in-house
translators (at ART many
of those are also my graduates).

To my knowledge, the first to make the change to colloquial dubbing was
the
company I have
mentioned above.  That would have been mid-decade in the 1990's.

David Wilmsen
Director, Arabic and Translation Studies
The American University in Cairo

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:48 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:48 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Possible DOD Arabic teaching job
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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From:modderator
Subject:Possible DOD Arabic teaching job

A member of the National Guard has contacted me to ask if there is
anyone who might be interested in teaching Arabic for a year in Ogden,
Utah.  Fusha and Iraqi dialect if possible.  This person would need to
be able to get a Secret Interim Clearance. Here are the details he sent:

1.  Naval Security Group Command is investigating the possibility of
conducting a proof of concept course of instruction at Joint Language
Training Center, Ogden, UT. This course of instruction will be in Modern
Standard Arabic (MSA) for nine students. One section of four students
will undergo nine months of intensive language acquisition training
for seven, 50 minute classroom hours per day and the other section will
undergo 12 months of intensive language acquisition training for seven,
50 minute classroom hours per day.

(A) Prospective instructors for these courses of instruction would be:

     (1) native speakers of Arabic (prefer Iraqi) and able to instruct
in Modern Standard Arabic?
     (2) willing to locate/relocate to the Ogden, UT vicinity at their
own expense?
     (3) able to commence teaching in the March/April 2003 timeframe?
     (4) possess at least a Masters Degree and have at least five years
of teaching experience in the target language?
     (5) thoroughly familiar with ILR standards and be able to teach to
at least the L2+/R2+/S2+ level.
     (6) able to achieve a level 2 on an English proficiency interview
such as those conducted by DLI?
     (7) pass a National Agency Check, at no cost to the government,
with favorable results?

I believe the question marks indicate that some of these requirements
are negotiable.  If you are interested, contact me at dil at byu.edu and I
will pass on your e-mail address to the guard.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Feb 12 18:17:39 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:17:39 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Curriculum Standards query
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Date: 12 Feb 2003
From: Robin Clifford <robinrclifford at yahoo.com>
Subject:Arabic Language Curriculum Standards query

I am beginning to do some research on Arabic language curriculum  
standards, either as a first or second language, in the Middle East or  
elsewhere and would appreciate any leads that members of this list  
might be able to provide me. 
Please respond directly to my email address robinrclifford at yahoo.com
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Robin

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:17:37 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs Ahlan wa Sahlan reviews
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Date: 12 Feb 2003
From: Maher Awad <awadm at sas.upenn.edu>
Subject:Needs Ahlan wa Sahlan reviews

I am looking for published reviews of Mahdi Alosh's Arabic
language textbook Ahlan wa Sahlan.  If you are aware of any
such review(s), please bring it/them to my attention.
Thank you for your help!

Maher Awad
awadm at sas.upenn.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Feb 12 18:17:43 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:17:43 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Cartoon dubbing
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Date: 12 Feb 2003
From: khorshid <khorshid at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:Cartoon dubbing

Dear list members,

In his response, David Wilmsen described the dubbing of cartoons in
fusha as
an odd practice. I strongly disagree. I think that dubbing cartoons in
fusha
is the best way to teach children fusha because they love cartoons.
They learn
without being "taught". They don't have problems understanding the
language
because it's associated with the events of the stories. Many of us have
seen
children re-acting the cartoons in fusha, with the same intonation and
pronunciation! The equation is simple; expose the children to more
meaning
fusha, and they'll understand more of it. Expose them to less meaningful
fusha, and they'll understand less of it. I believe that dubbing
cartoons in
colloquial Arabic is done at the expense of fusha.

Ahmad Khorshid
Arabic Language Instructor

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Feb 12 18:17:41 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:17:41 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:US source for Arabic dubbed Disney DVDs?
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Date: 12 Feb 2003
From: ArabLDS <ArabLDS at hotmail.com>
Subject:US source for Arabic dubbed Disney DVDs?

Thank you for everyone's responses, very helpful.  If I might ask a
follow-up question: the only place I've been able to find to buy Arabic
Disney DVDs is a website called www.uaemall.com, but the shipping
charges
from the UAE to the US are horrendous.  Does anyone know of a source
based
in the US where I can purchase them?

Jamal Qureshi

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:52:06 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:52:06 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:reflexes of Daad query
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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: RamonNorman at aol.com
Subject:reflexes of Daad query

I have a question about Arabic dialectology.  I have a friend who  
traveled to Saudi Arabia to teach English.  He lived in the region of  
Al-Hasa, a region in the eastern part of Saudi Arabia.  While there he  
met individuals that told him that the Arabic letter Daad (Now usually  
a voiced emphatic alveolar stop in Modern Standard Arabic, but  
according to tradition some manner of lateral articulation) should be  
pronounced from the side of the tongue with audible friction.  I am not  
sure if he had the correct pronunciation or not, but to me it sounded  
rather like Dhaa' (The voiced emphatic inter-dental fricative).   
However this lateral fricative articulation is the articulation that  
most specialists in Semitic believe was the original articulation of  
Daad.

Now my question, Is it possible that some dialects of Arabic,  
particularly those confined to the Arabian Peninsula have maintained a  
lateral fricative articulation of Daad?  I am not sure whether or not  
the fricative lateral hypothesis was current when much of the work on  
the Arabic dialects was undertaken so is it possible that improper  
transcription has led us to believe in the universal merger of Daad  
with the Dhaa' in all Bedouin dialects?  Are there any other reflexes  
of classical Arabic Daad in the modern Arabic Dialects?

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:52:15 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:52:15 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Technology and Curr Design Workshop at Emory
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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: Mahmoud Al-Batal <albatal at emory.edu>
Subject: Technology and Curriculum Design Workshop at Emory

PLEASE POST
=============

The Center for Middle Eastern Studies at Emory University

In cooperation with

The National Middle East Language Resource Center (NMELRC)
at Brigham Young University

Presents

Technology, Curriculum Design & Material Development
A workshop for teachers of Arabic, Hebrew, Persian & Turkish

Wednesday, May 14 - Friday, May 16

This workshop aims to bring together teachers of Arabic, Hebrew,
Persian,
and Turkish to engage in conversations across languages and within each
language on the state of and prospects for the curriculum and
technology-based materials.

DAY ONE:  STATE OF THE CURRICULUM AND STATE OF TECHNOLOGY
Joint session for all languages
The first day will be devoted to presentations on the state of the
curriculum and materials in each language, and demonstrations of recent
and
current technology-based material development projects in each of the
four
languages .

DAY TWO:  DEVELOPING CURRICULUM AND MATERIALS
Language-specific sessions
Teachers in each language will meet as a group to consider curricular
and
pedagogical issues that are particular to their language.  Such issues
may
include technology, proficiency standards, heritage learners, testing
and
assessment, etc.

DAY THREE:  EXPLORING SHARED ISSUES AND NEEDS
Joint session (half day)
This session of the workshop will be devoted to discussion of the issues
raised in the first two days and setting of priorities for action.

Detailed information about the presentations on Day One will be
announced
soon.

The Center for Middle Eastern Studies at Emory has limited financial
support
(reimbursement) available for eligible participants.  For general
inquiries
or to register for the workshop, please contact Nick Fabian in the
Department of Middle Eastern and South Asian Studies, Emory University,
at
rfabian at emory.edu or (404)727-2697 .

Deadline for registration is April 30, 2003

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:52:23 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:52:23 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Can you greet nominatively?
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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: Muhammad S Eissa <eissa at umich.edu>
Subject:Can you greet nominatively?

Salaam all:

I grew up and taught for decades using the greeting "SabaaHa/masaa'a
al-kahyr" in the accusative form. Therefore, hearing others using it in
the nominative  form"SabaaHu/masaa'u al-khayr" raised not a question of
correctness but rather of frequency. Would anyone enlighten me more in
this regard? Thanks in advance.

Salaam

Muhammad S. Eissa, Ph. D. (On Leave)
Department of Near Eastern Studies,
University of Michigan,

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:52:44 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:52:44 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Music and Poetry abt War in Lebanon query
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1) Subject:Music and Poetry abt War in Lebanon query

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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: Ulla Prien <prien at hum.ku.dk>
Subject:Music and Poetry abt War in Lebanon query

I´m posting this for a group of students from Copenhagen University.
 
Ulla Prien
University instructor¨
The Carsten Niebuhr Institute
Copenhagen University.

We are going on a study-tour to Syria and Lebanon and we  are looking  
for recent poetry and music dealing the civilwar in Lebanon and the  
reconciliation process. We are especially interested in the new  
generation of lebanese artists. We are interested both in some material  
for studying prior to the trip and eventually in attending events and  
meeting artists during our trip, 11/5 - 23/5 2003. Any suggestions will  
be wellcomed, best regards Anna and Jakob. 

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:52:48 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:52:48 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:CAI for Arabic Consultant Job
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1) Subject:CAI for Arabic Consultant Job

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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: dstephens at ncsu.edu
Subject:CAI for Arabic Consultant Job

We need an Arabic linguist, fluent in Arabic and conversant with the
linguistics of the language.  It is for a paid consultation on computer
assisted language learning.  Applicants can write to me.

best regards,
Dwight Stephens
dstephens at ncsu.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:54:45 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:54:45 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:NMELRC/MIddlebury Arabic Instructor Training Seminar
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1) Subject:NMELRC/MIddlebury Arabic Instructor Training Seminar

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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: Stan_Jarvis at byu.edu
Subject:NMELRC/MIddlebury Arabic Instructor Training Seminar

NMELRC is happy to announce that it will offer its first Arabic  
Instructor Training Seminar, to be held inMiddlebury,VermontJuly 18-  
August 1, 2003in cooperation withMiddleburyCollege.  The seminar  
activities will be carried out in conjunction with the Middlebury  
College School of Arabic, which will provide participants with the  
opportunity to immerse themselves in an intensive learning and teaching  
environment at all levels of proficiency. 

The seminar will focus on all aspects of college level Arabic  
instruction: syllabus design, developing students' abilities in the  
various skills, teaching grammar and vocabulary, facilitating small  
group work, assessment and testing.  It will provide both theoretical  
training in pedagogy and hands-on training through class observation  
and practice teaching.

Training sessions will be led by Dr. Kristen Brustad (EmoryUniversity),  
Dr. Mahdi Alosh (OhioState), Dr. Mahmoud Abdallah (WashingtonUniv.St  
Louis & MiddleburyCollege, and Dr.Mahmoud Al-Batal(Emory).

The cost for participation in this seminar includes personal  
transportation to Middlebury and $600 for room and board for two weeks  
for participants who opt to live in the same residence hall in which  
students and faculty of theSchoolofArabiclive. The accommodations are  
in suites with shared facilities.  Any who would prefer to live off  
campus can do so by contacting some of the hotels or motels in the  
Middlebury area. Please note that living off campus requires a car.  

Only 15 people can be accommodated for this year’s seminar.  Therefore  
the process of acceptance will be competitive.  Much of the decision  
will be based on the statement of purpose submitted in individual  
applications.  The Arabic Language Board of NMELRC will consider the  
applications and make the final selection. Final selections are  
expected by May 10to give sufficient time for those who are accepted to  
send their room and board fees to Middlebury and to handle their  
personal travel arrangements.

 

All interested applicants should send the following information  
immediately to NMELRCathttp://nmelrc.byu.edu.

APPLICATION TO ATTEND THE 2003 ARABIC INSTRUCTOR TRAINING SEMINAR  

A. PERSONAL INFORMATION

1. Name:        -

2. Institution:   -

3. Position:     -

4. Campus address:

                                    

5. Campus phone     :                                               fax:

6. Campus e-mail:

 

7. Home address:

  

8. Home phone:

9. Home e-mail:

 

 

B. BACKGROUND INFORMATION

            1. How much experience teaching Arabic in US?

            2. What prior training in language instruction?

3. Have you had overseas learning in Arabic?

4. Do you have native language Arabic capability?

 

 

C. CONSIDERATION STATEMENT

Please submit a statement of purpose of 500 words or less to explain  
your future career goals and how this teacher training seminar will  
help you achieve these goals. Also discuss your expectations from  
participation in the seminar.

 

 

 

Stan Jarvis
Coordinator, NMELRC
Stan_Jarvis at byu.edu
801 422-7192


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 21 22:48:24 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:48:24 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:NWAVE 32 in Philly
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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: Uri Horesh <urih at babel.ling.upenn.edu>
Subject:NWAVE 32 in Philly

** PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY - APOLOGIES FOR MULTIPLE POSTINGS **

        The 32nd annual meeting of NWAVE will be held in Philadelphia at
the University of Pennsylvania from October 9th to 12th, 2003.  The
theme of the meeting is LANGUAGE HISTORY AND LANGUAGE CONTACT.

        For more information and the Call for Papers, see the NWAVE32 web
site:

       http://www.ling.upenn.edu/NWAVE

       Looking forward to seeing you all in Philadelphia in the fall,


                                        THE NWAVE COMMITTEE

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 21 22:48:32 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:48:32 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Reflexes of Daad
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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: dparvaz at mac.com
Subject:Reflexes of Daad

> Now my question, Is it possible that some dialects of Arabic,
> particularly those confined to the Arabian Peninsula have maintained a
> lateral fricative articulation of Daad?

Caveat: this is anecdotal, and based on recollection.

In some Baghdadi speakers, I've heard a couple of variants. While
working in MSA, I have heard Daad pronounced as a lateral fricative
postvocalically. In colloquial Arabic, It looks like it slips to a
pharyngealized alveolar fricative as in "maZbuuT."  Again, this looks
postvocalic.

So, can this be described in your favorite theory/formalism (whatever
that is :-) as assimilating [+ cont] (and maybe even [+strident])?
Again, I haven't really investigated this.

Cheers,

Dan.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 21 22:48:14 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:48:14 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Naval Academy Job
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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: "William H. Fletcher" <fletcher at usna.edu>
Subject:Naval Academy Job

United States Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD.

Full-time, tenure-track position in Modern Standard Arabic.  Starting
date
flexible after October 2003 but no later than 5 January 2004. PhD or ABD
with dissertation completed by January 2004.  The successful candidate
will
develop an entirely new Arabic program, and will teach 9-12 credits per
semester. Research in an appropriate field and institutional service
expected. Position will remain open until filled.  U.S. Naval Academy
civilian faculty members are federal government employees.  U.S.
citizenship
is required.

Send vita and application letter to: Arabic Search Committee, Language
Studies Department, U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD 21402, or email to
fletcher at usna.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 21 22:48:52 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:48:52 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Nominative Greeting responses
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3) Subject:Nominative Greeting response
4) Subject:Nominative Greeting response
5) Subject:Nominative Greeting response

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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: Haidar Moukdad <haidar.moukdad at mail.mcgill.ca>
Subject: Nominative Greeting response

SabaaHu/masaa'u al-khayr (the nominitive form) makes more sense. Since
the
existence of a verb is not implied, the  greeting is treated as a noun
phrase. In many "colloquial" dialects, the frequency and correctness  of
using accusative or nominative forms are irrelevant, since a "sukuun" is
used at the end of SabaaH/masaa'.

Haidar Moukdad
Dalhousie University

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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: Mary <marynach at yahoo.com>
Subject: Nominative Greeting response

Also, which one is more correct, and why (Sabaahu-l-khayr or
Sabaaha-l-khayr, and same for masaa'a-l-khayr vs. masaa'u-l-khayr)?
Mary Nachtrieb

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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject: Nominative Greeting response

You can do anything you please in fusha!

I suppose masaa'u l-khayri is more a declaration than a greeting, ya
Muhammadu: ('innahu masaa'u l-khayri).

Waheedun.

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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: M Alhamad <ahmmm at essex.ac.uk>
Subject: Nominative Greeting response

Hello all,

To answer Muhammad's question about the case of "sabaH/masa' al-khayr":

I think you can use both forms: nominative and accusative. It is the
same
when we use most of the adverbs of time like: yawm, shahr, sanah = day,
month, year...etc.
For example: if you ask: "when are you coming to visit me?" the answer
would
be: "yawm-a al-jumcah" = "Friday Day-Acc" with accusative form.
However, if
you ask: "which is the best day in the week?", the answer would be:
"yawm-u
al-jumcah" = "Friday Day-Nom" with nominative form.
The same is applied to "sabaHa/ sabaHu al-khayr". If it is considered
as an
adverb of time, it would be used in the accusative form. However, if it
is
considered as a part of a nominal sentence (verbless sentence), it
would be
used in the nominative form (as if it means: "sabaH-u al-khayr-i
calayk" as
we say in English: "Good morning to you".

I personally prefer to use it in the nominative form "sabaHu". I think
it is
more likely to be part of a nominal sentence than to be an adverb of
time
(although it is common to be used in this form).

I hope this helps to answer your question.

Mohammad Alhamad
University of Essex
UK

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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: Dil Parkinson <dil at byu.edu
Subject: Nominative Greeting response

I can't resist adding my two bits.  Technically I think you would have
to say that the accusative form is the only correct one when the phrase
is used in a greeting:  all greetings are considered to be adverbs,
compare marHaban, 'ahlan, etc.  However, I find it interesting that
there seems to be a drift in the direction of nominative.  When I was
doing research on oral vowelling perfomance I found a similar
phenomenon in many different settings.  Here is my (admittedly totally
ad hoc) explanation:  you never really have to put the ending vowels
on, even if your performance is otherwise 'fusha' in every way.  You
choose to put them on to mark your performance in a particular way.  It
is a kind of claim for elegance, educatedness, high-fallutin'-ness, or
whatever you want to call it.  If accuracy is not a concern, the 'u'
vowel is by far the best to fill this marking function.  An 'i' vowel
particularly, but also an 'a' can be heard not as an attempt at
vowelling but simply as a kind of slur or helping vowel.  But 'u' is
pretty unmistakable.  It says: 'this is a vowelled performance'
bringing along with it whatever social baggage that claim carries with
it.  I once participated in a debate, organized by the Al-Akhbar
newspaper in Cairo, in which my colleague, a professor from Cairo
University, managed to get through an approximately 15 minute monologue
with every word vowelled with 'u' regardless of its actual case.  It
was breathtaking, and to my mind quite revealing of the function of
vowels in oral performances.
Dil
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:12 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:12 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Sufi Poetry query
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1) Subject:Sufi Poetry query (can't tell if it is supposed to be about  
the war or not--moderator)

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1)
Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: Ulla Prien <prien at hum.ku.dk>
Subject:Sufi Poetry query

Another question from a group of students from Copenhagen University;
 
Hello.We are a group of studenst preparing a speach about syrian and  
lebanese (civil war) poetry.We have manageded to find quit a lot about  
of poetry and music about that theme. But we are also interested in  
islamic sufi poetry and music, but that had turned up to be more  
difficult. Could anybody help us get information on this subject.  
A name, number or a homepage adresse in the internet. Anything would do!
We have a deadline on tuesday the 4 mars. So we are in a bit of a  
hurry. So please write to me on my e-mail hamidanaji at hotmail.com
 as soon as possible.
your sincerly
Hamida Naji 

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:17 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:17 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arab Academy Ad
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Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: sanaa at arabacademy.com
Subject:Arab Academy Ad

The Arab Academy, which is the world's leading provider of online
Arabic language courses, offers:

I: Online Arabic courses for adults
A two year intensive Arabic language program based on ACTFL proficiency
guidelines
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II: Online Arabic courses for young adults
A four level series of courses based on national US standards for
learning a foreign language.
http://www.arabacademy.com/MAIN/ONLINE/registrar_HS_e.shtml

II: Online Arabic courses for children
Courses running from KG - Year 4.
http://www.arabacademy.com/MAIN/ONLINE/registration_home_schooling_e.htm

Register NOW!
http://www.arabacademy.com/registration_main_types_e.htm

Courses start on the day following your registration.

For more information visit our site:
http://www.arabacademy.com

Best regards,
Sanaa Ghanem

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:19 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:19 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Needs English articles on Quran
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Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: waleed at talk21.com
Subject:Needs English articles on Quran

Greets to all,
Could you kindly tell titles of journals written in English where I can
find articles on the Qur'an, in particular, its translation.
I need them for a data base I am setting up.
Regards,
Dr. Waleed Al-Amri

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:14 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:14 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Arabic blushing query
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Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: Christine Patricia Murphy <cpm23 at columbia.edu>
Subject:Arabic blushing query

Hello!

         My name is Christine Murphy; I am currently a senior in Columbia
University's Anthropology department, and would like to ask if I may
draw
on the experience and resources of those on this listserv to help inform
my senior thesis.

         I am looking into the cross-cultural significance of the
physiological and emotional responses associated with blushing, and
their
implications for nonverbal communication.   I wonder if anyone out
there has encountered related terms in his/her studies of Arabic (for
the
internal response, if not for an outward physical sign: verb, noun, or
adjective).

         The scope of such terms might include (but is certainly not
limited to) associations with the physical manifestations of
embarrassment, shame, anger, sexual attraction, or modesty, my
particular
interest being evidence of perceivable facial difference, perhaps by a
change in skin appearance (as is indicated in the English verb "to
blush"). I could consult a dictionary, but I am sure that the experience
as researchers and perhaps speakers of Arabic that you all may
offer me is a far greater opportunity, to be sure that the
terms and uses I refer to in my paper are current, salient, not relics
of
linguists overeager to find one-to-one relationships between familiar
and
foreign language systems.

Many thanks, and best wishes for the coming spring -

Sincerely,

Christine Murphy

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:21 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:21 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:NCOLCTL 2003 registration info
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Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: "McGinnis, Scott" <smcginnis at nflc.org>
Subject:NCOLCTL 2003 registration info

Registration and lodging information for NCOLCTL 2003, scheduled for
May 2-4, 2003 at the University of California, Los Angeles, are now
available on line at:

   http://www.international.ucla.edu/lrc/ncolctl/index.html

A complete copy of the conference program will also be available at
that site within the next week to ten days.

We look forward to seeing you in Los Angeles in May!

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:23 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:23 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Reflexes of Daad
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1)
Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: "Schub, Michael" <Michael.Schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:Reflexes of Daad

Let's not forget our Turkish friends' influence on this matter, cf.
/ZaabiT/.  That was then,
this is now.
      Zincirli,

               Mike Schub

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:32 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:32 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Nominative Greetings
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2) Subject:Nominative Greetings
3) Subject:Nominative Greetings

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1)
Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: enm at umich.edu
Subject:Nominative Greetings

And I cannot resist adding two more cents:

I have heard both used, and in each case the explanation is that you
can fill
in the ellipsis either way:  nom. if the underlying sentence is
SabaaHu-l-
xayri lakum 'A good morning to you' and acc. if the underlying sentence
is 'uSabbiHu-kum SabaaHa-l-xayri 'I bid you a good morning'.

Ernest McCarus

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2)
Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: suma99 at att.net
Subject:Nominative Greetings

I have to agree with the first part of Dil's response. Indeed the
accusative is
the more correct usagez, as most all greetings have the accusative i.e.
ahlan
wa sahlan, marhaban, even duas and other one or two word expressions
have the
accustaive such as: hajjan mabruran said to the hajji, jam'an said to
the
worshipper after jumuah prayers in Egypt; also  sam'an wa taa'ah;and
many other
examples.
However I vehemently disagree with his last comments that final
vowelization
has nothing to do with accuracy of speech or fusha as he put it. Indeed
it has
everything to do with fusha, granted it may also have social
implications of
how educated or high fallutten the speaker is.

Thanks,
Ismael

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3)
Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: "Schub, Michael" <Michael.Schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:Nominative Greetings

Hello!  Guten Morgen!                      --Mike Schub

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:11:51 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:11:51 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Wellesley job
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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From:reposted from Arabic-Info
Subject:Wellesley job

Wellesley College invites applications for a first-level tenure-track
position in Arabic, beginning in the Fall of 2003.  Applications from
candidates with up to two years of full-time teaching experience
post-Ph.D. will be considered.  The successful candidate will be
responsible for the teaching of Elementary and Intermediate Modern
Standard Arabic, and may have the opportunity to teach courses in
advanced
language and literature.  Native or near-native proficiency in Arabic is
required, and language teaching experience is preferred.  Please send a
letter of application, curriculum vitae, graduate transcripts,
syllabuses
and teaching materials if available, and three letters of reference to
Arabic Search Committee, c/o Department of Religion, Wellesley College,
106 Central Street, Wellesley, MA 02481.  Review of applications begins
March 1, 2003.

Wellesley College is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action educational
institution and employer; successful candidates must be able to work
effectively in a culturally diverse environment.  Applications from
women,
minorities, veterans, and candidates with disabilities are encouraged.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:11:54 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:11:54 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Dialect on Arabic Disney Films query
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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: ArabLDS <ArabLDS at hotmail.com>
Subject:Dialect on Arabic Disney Films query

I've found at least one place online that sells Disney DVDs in Arabic.
Can
anyone on Arabic-L tell me if Disney does their Arabic voice-overs in
Fusha,
Egyptian, or some other dialect?  Thanks!

Jamal Qureshi

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:11:57 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:11:57 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Summer Arabic Course in UAE
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1)
Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: maria.emiraten at passagen.se
Subject:Summer Arabic Course in UAE

The Gulf Arabic Programme based in the desert town of Al Ain, UAE runs a
four week intensive course in colloquial Gulf Arabic every summer, this
summer
from 5th to 30th July.  The course is for beginners, though students are
expected to have mastered the Arabic alphabet before they arrive.  All
our
teachers are native speakers from the region.

We also run courses and tutorials tailored to a variety of levels for
individuals
and private classes on demand.

We can arrange furnished flats if needed (please contact us for more
details).

For more information, visit our website at www.gapschool.net, download
our
summer programme brochure from
http://www.gapschool.net/Downloads/download.htm
and/or e-mail us at info at gapschool.net

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:12:02 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:12:02 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:DC area Arabic Course responses
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1)
Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Jill Jenkins <jtj8 at email.byu.edu>
Subject:DC area Arabic Course response

There is a program in Fairfax, VA which is about 30 minutes from DC. It
is
very reasonable compared to the other classes in the area and I believe
they
teach Fusha exclusively.

Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences of America, 8500 Hilltop Road,
Fairfax, VA 22031
Phone: 703-641-4890, Fax: 703-641-4899
E-mail: info at iiasa.org, Internet: http://www.iiasa.org
Notes: The Institute of Islamic and Arabic Sciences in America (IIASA)
is an
educational and research institution.
Among the various activities of the Institute are teaching Arabic and
Islamic courses, and undertaking
research in Islamic studies. IIASA has a prayer hall, and offers
Jumma/Friday Prayer at 1:30 p.m.

Jill Jenkins
jjenkins at gmu.edu

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2)
Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Gaye Price <gprice at uop.edu>
Subject:DC area Arabic Course response

Dear Dorata Kowalska,
I am not up on current programs in WDC, but at one time, the Middle
East Institute on N St. in Washington, D.C. offered very reputable
courses in beginning, intermediate and advanced MSA.  You might want to
check with them to see what they are offering nowadays.  Generally, the
courses were offered in the evening, two or three evenings per week.
And they did have a summer program as well as a program for the academic
year.  Their fees were considerably less than G.U.'s.  Good luck.
Gaye Walton-Price

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:11:59 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:11:59 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Al-Kitaab Workshop at NECTFL
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Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Gail Grella <GRELLAG1 at georgetown.edu>
Subject:Al-Kitaab Workshop at NECTFL

  Georgetown University Press Announces
A Workshop for Teachers of Arabic
in conjunction with  the 50th Meeting of the
Northeast Conference on the Teaching of Foreign Languages (NECTFL)

  Teaching Arabic Using Al-Kitaab Textbook Series

Sunday, April 13, 2003,  9:00 a.m-4:00 p.m.
Omni-Shoreham Hotel, Washington D.C.


     This one-day hands-on workshop is designed for teachers of Arabic in
general and those using or interested in using Al-Kitaab Arabic textbook
series in particular.  The workshop, led by two series authors Kristen
Brustad and Mahmoud Al-Batal, will present techniques and exercises for
teaching these materials in ways that help students develop listening,
reading, speaking, writing and cultural skills in Arabic at the
elementary, intermediate, and advanced levels.

     The workshop will be organized as follows:

    9:00-9:45 am Philosophy and methodology of the materials; defining
      roles of teacher and learner
    9:45-10:45  Teaching vocabulary
    11:00-12:00  Teaching the main text
    12:00-1:00  Lunch (hosted by Georgetown University Press).
    1:00-1:45  Teaching grammar
    2:00-2:45  Teaching reading
    3:00-4:00   Designing a syllabus; discussion and wrap up.

Teachers interested in registering for the workshop and conference
should contact:
The Northeast Conference
Dickinson College
P.O. Box 1773
Carlisle PA 17013-2896
Tel. 717-245-1977
Fax 717-245-1976
www.nectfl.org.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:12:04 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:12:04 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:pronunciation responses
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2) Subject:pronunciation response
3) Subject:pronunciation response
4) Subject:pronunciation response
5) Subject:pronunciation thanks

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1)
Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Joost Kremers <j.kremers at let.kun.nl>
Subject: pronunciation response

> May i ask how to pronounce the middle name of
> Dr. Huda Smitshuijzen AbiFar?s, who wrote "Arabic Typography:
> A Comprehensive Sourcebook" ?
>
> sh-mit-shuiy-ts-en ?
> sh-mi-chui-jen ???

It's a Dutch name, and 'Huda' being a feminine name, I suspect it's not  
her
middle name but the name of her husband. The pronunciation is roughly:

smits-hui-zen

So the -ts belong to the first syllable, the second syllable starts with
the h. The combination 'uij' (including the 'j'!) is a diphpthong that's
rare in other languages. (I don't know of any language that has it.)  
It's
roughly a French u + i. Most foreign speakers replace it with the sound  
of
'ow' in English 'now'. Furthermore, the -i- in 'Smits-' is like in  
English
'in', and the -e- is a schwa. Stress is on the first syllable.

Hope this is enough information. :-)

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2)
Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Daniel Newman <d.newman at planetinternet.be>
Subject: pronunciation response

Hello,

The Dutch name 'Smitshuijzen' is pronounced as follows (IPA  
transcription):
/'smits-h?yzen/

Regards,
Daniel Newman

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3)
Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Klaus Lagally <lagally at informatik.uni-stuttgart.de>
Subject: pronunciation response

Assuming the name is in Dutch, I would pronounce it: smits-hoy-zen

Klaus Lagally

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4)
Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: "Raven, Wim" <raven at em.uni-frankfurt.de>
Subject: pronunciation response

Being Dutch, I think I can answer this question. SInce the answer seems  
to
be required for creating a Japanese spelling for this name, I think I  
can
refrain form phonetical alphabets or over-refinement. Please pronouce  
as if
it were an English word: Smits - hoy - zen   (zen as in Zen-Buddhism)  
and
you are near to the truth.

Best wishes,
Wim Raven

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5)
Date: 04 Feb 2003
From: Haruko SAKAEDANI <yosiyasu at aa.tufs.ac.jp>
Subject: pronunciation thanks

 From the Japanese who asked the pronunciation of "Smitshuijzen,"
Thank you so much for your immediate responses.
Shukran.  Merci 'awi.  Motashakkiriin.
Haruko

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Tue Feb  4 21:34:42 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 14:34:42 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIST:How to get digest version of Arabic-L
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Date: 04 Feb 2003
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Subject:How to get digest version of Arabic-L

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variety of aliases, so try to remember which one you used when you
signed up, and use it again with this command, and in general when
sending messages to Arabic-L.  If you need me to look up what address
you used when you signed up, let me know.

Good luck.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:44 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:44 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Book
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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From:from LINGUIST
Subject:New Book

Watson, Janet C. E. (2002) The Phonology and Morphology of Arabic.
Oxford University Press, xiii+307pp, hardback ISBN 0-19-925759-0,
The Phonology of the World's Languages.
    Announced at http://linguistlist.org/issues/13/13-3262.html

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:35 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:35 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Washington U job
Message-ID: <FRI.7.FEB.2003.103435.0700.DILWORTHPARKINSON@BYU.EDU>

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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: Shaaron Benjamin <smbenjam at artsci.wustl.edu>
Subject:Washington U job

Washington University in St. Louis invites applications for a full-time
renewable Lecturer position in Modern Standard Arabic Language
beginning August 2003.  Responsibilities will include teaching Arabic
language at all levels. Requirements include an M.A. or higher in
Arabic language, linguistics, second-language acquisition or related
fields. Candidates must possess a native or near-native command of
Arabic, and provide evidence of commitment to language teaching. Send
letter of application with supporting materials  (curriculum vitae,
three letters of recommendation, sample syllabi or Teaching Portfolio,
and if possible, video of teaching) to Chair, Arabic Search Committee,
Department of Asian and Near Eastern Languages and Literatures,
Washington University, Campus Box 1111, One Brookings Drive, St. Louis,
MO  63130-4899. Consideration of applicants will begin on March 1, 2003
and continue until the position is filled. E-mail inquiries should be
directed to . Telephone inquiries to 314 935-5156. Washington
University is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action employer. Women
and members of minority groups are encouraged to apply.


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:31 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:31 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs orthography/spoken studies
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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: aquilr at georgetown.edu
Subject:Needs orthography/spoken studies

Hello to all.

I have replicated Melher et al.81 study of syllable monitoring on
Cairene spoken Arabic and found that Arabic script and orthography
effected processing/accessing spoken Arabic syllables. I was wondering
if anyone could lead me to studies investigating the effect of
orthography specifically Arabic on processing Arabic spoken
language.   I would also like to ask if anybody knows about references
on deletions or contraction-like phonological processes in Egyptian
colloquial Arabic.

Thanks in advance.

Rajaa Aquil
aquilr at georgetown.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:33 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:33 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:DC area courses
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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: Shawn Greenstreet <shawngsjunk at hotmail.com>
Subject:DC area courses

I've taken Arabic courses at the USDA's Graduate School Evening
Language Classes Program in downtown DC.
http://grad.usda.gov/programs_services/evening/evening_weekend.cfm
Its cheaper than GU or MEI but it is only one night a week. I've had a
mixed experience there. Some teachers have been great and some needed
to be fired. They teach Fusha from "al kitaab fi taalm..."
Good luck!
Shawn

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:37 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:37 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Disney Films dialect responses
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1) Subject:Disney Films dialect response
2) Subject:Disney Films dialect response
3) Subject:Disney Films dialect response

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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: Martha Schulte-Nafeh <marthas at u.arizona.edu>
Subject:Disney Films dialect response

I have  a copy of the Lion King that is done in Egyptian Arabic.
Peace,
Martha

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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: dparvaz at mac.com
Subject:Disney Films dialect response


> I've found at least one place online that sells Disney DVDs in Arabic.
>  Can
> anyone on Arabic-L tell me if Disney does their Arabic voice-overs in
> Fusha,
> Egyptian, or some other dialect?  Thanks!

The Disney videos I have for my kids (101 Dalmatians, The Lion King,
Pocohontas) are all done in Cairene, as far as I can tell. And they're
done pretty well, IMHO.
Cheers,
Dan.

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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From: dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:Disney Films dialect response

Several years ago a company in Cairo began hiring my graduates to
translate
Disney productions
into Egyptian colloquial Arabic. I can't remember its name  off of the
top of
my head, but I can get it
for you if you need.  Those may be the products you are referring to.

There was a time when western cartoons were dubbed in fusha - a very odd
practice in my opinion.
At that time, the number of such cartoons available in Arabic were few.
  The
company undertaking
the translation was Lebanese.  With the advent of satellite
broadcasting, the
number of cartoons
available has increased considerably, and it is rare to find one dubbed
in
fusha.

The number of companies undertaking the translation has also increased.
  Some
- maybe all - the
satellite channels such as ART and the Showtime Network hire in-house
translators (at ART many
of those are also my graduates).

To my knowledge, the first to make the change to colloquial dubbing was
the
company I have
mentioned above.  That would have been mid-decade in the 1990's.

David Wilmsen
Director, Arabic and Translation Studies
The American University in Cairo

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb  7 17:34:48 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:34:48 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Possible DOD Arabic teaching job
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Date: 07 Feb 2003
From:modderator
Subject:Possible DOD Arabic teaching job

A member of the National Guard has contacted me to ask if there is
anyone who might be interested in teaching Arabic for a year in Ogden,
Utah.  Fusha and Iraqi dialect if possible.  This person would need to
be able to get a Secret Interim Clearance. Here are the details he sent:

1.  Naval Security Group Command is investigating the possibility of
conducting a proof of concept course of instruction at Joint Language
Training Center, Ogden, UT. This course of instruction will be in Modern
Standard Arabic (MSA) for nine students. One section of four students
will undergo nine months of intensive language acquisition training
for seven, 50 minute classroom hours per day and the other section will
undergo 12 months of intensive language acquisition training for seven,
50 minute classroom hours per day.

(A) Prospective instructors for these courses of instruction would be:

     (1) native speakers of Arabic (prefer Iraqi) and able to instruct
in Modern Standard Arabic?
     (2) willing to locate/relocate to the Ogden, UT vicinity at their
own expense?
     (3) able to commence teaching in the March/April 2003 timeframe?
     (4) possess at least a Masters Degree and have at least five years
of teaching experience in the target language?
     (5) thoroughly familiar with ILR standards and be able to teach to
at least the L2+/R2+/S2+ level.
     (6) able to achieve a level 2 on an English proficiency interview
such as those conducted by DLI?
     (7) pass a National Agency Check, at no cost to the government,
with favorable results?

I believe the question marks indicate that some of these requirements
are negotiable.  If you are interested, contact me at dil at byu.edu and I
will pass on your e-mail address to the guard.
Dil

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Feb 12 18:17:39 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:17:39 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic Curriculum Standards query
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Date: 12 Feb 2003
From: Robin Clifford <robinrclifford at yahoo.com>
Subject:Arabic Language Curriculum Standards query

I?am beginning to do some research on?Arabic language curriculum  
standards, either as a first or second language, in the Middle East or  
elsewhere and would appreciate any leads that members of this list  
might be able to provide me.?
Please respond directly to my email address robinrclifford at yahoo.com
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Robin

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Feb 12 18:17:37 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:17:37 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs Ahlan wa Sahlan reviews
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Date: 12 Feb 2003
From: Maher Awad <awadm at sas.upenn.edu>
Subject:Needs Ahlan wa Sahlan reviews

I am looking for published reviews of Mahdi Alosh's Arabic
language textbook Ahlan wa Sahlan.  If you are aware of any
such review(s), please bring it/them to my attention.
Thank you for your help!

Maher Awad
awadm at sas.upenn.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Feb 12 18:17:43 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:17:43 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Cartoon dubbing
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Date: 12 Feb 2003
From: khorshid <khorshid at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:Cartoon dubbing

Dear list members,

In his response, David Wilmsen described the dubbing of cartoons in
fusha as
an odd practice. I strongly disagree. I think that dubbing cartoons in
fusha
is the best way to teach children fusha because they love cartoons.
They learn
without being "taught". They don't have problems understanding the
language
because it's associated with the events of the stories. Many of us have
seen
children re-acting the cartoons in fusha, with the same intonation and
pronunciation! The equation is simple; expose the children to more
meaning
fusha, and they'll understand more of it. Expose them to less meaningful
fusha, and they'll understand less of it. I believe that dubbing
cartoons in
colloquial Arabic is done at the expense of fusha.

Ahmad Khorshid
Arabic Language Instructor

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Wed Feb 12 18:17:41 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:17:41 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:US source for Arabic dubbed Disney DVDs?
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Date: 12 Feb 2003
From: ArabLDS <ArabLDS at hotmail.com>
Subject:US source for Arabic dubbed Disney DVDs?

Thank you for everyone's responses, very helpful.  If I might ask a
follow-up question: the only place I've been able to find to buy Arabic
Disney DVDs is a website called www.uaemall.com, but the shipping
charges
from the UAE to the US are horrendous.  Does anyone know of a source
based
in the US where I can purchase them?

Jamal Qureshi

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:52:06 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:52:06 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:reflexes of Daad query
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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: RamonNorman at aol.com
Subject:reflexes of Daad query

I have a question about Arabic dialectology.? I have a friend who  
traveled to Saudi Arabia to teach English.? He lived in the region of  
Al-Hasa, a region in the eastern part of Saudi Arabia.? While there he  
met individuals that told him that the Arabic letter Daad (Now usually  
a voiced emphatic alveolar stop in Modern Standard Arabic, but  
according to tradition some manner of lateral articulation) should be  
pronounced from the side of the tongue with audible friction.? I am not  
sure if he had the correct pronunciation or not, but to me it sounded  
rather like Dhaa' (The voiced emphatic inter-dental fricative).?  
However this lateral fricative articulation is the articulation that  
most specialists in Semitic believe was the original articulation of  
Daad.

Now my question, Is it possible that some dialects of Arabic,  
particularly those confined to the Arabian Peninsula have maintained a  
lateral fricative articulation of Daad?? I am not sure whether or not  
the fricative lateral hypothesis was current when much of the work on  
the Arabic dialects was undertaken so is it possible that improper  
transcription has led us to believe in the universal merger of Daad  
with the Dhaa' in all Bedouin dialects?? Are there any other reflexes  
of classical Arabic Daad in the modern Arabic Dialects?

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:52:15 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:52:15 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Technology and Curr Design Workshop at Emory
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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: Mahmoud Al-Batal <albatal at emory.edu>
Subject: Technology and Curriculum Design Workshop at Emory

PLEASE POST
=============

The Center for Middle Eastern Studies at Emory University

In cooperation with

The National Middle East Language Resource Center (NMELRC)
at Brigham Young University

Presents

Technology, Curriculum Design & Material Development
A workshop for teachers of Arabic, Hebrew, Persian & Turkish

Wednesday, May 14 - Friday, May 16

This workshop aims to bring together teachers of Arabic, Hebrew,
Persian,
and Turkish to engage in conversations across languages and within each
language on the state of and prospects for the curriculum and
technology-based materials.

DAY ONE:  STATE OF THE CURRICULUM AND STATE OF TECHNOLOGY
Joint session for all languages
The first day will be devoted to presentations on the state of the
curriculum and materials in each language, and demonstrations of recent
and
current technology-based material development projects in each of the
four
languages .

DAY TWO:  DEVELOPING CURRICULUM AND MATERIALS
Language-specific sessions
Teachers in each language will meet as a group to consider curricular
and
pedagogical issues that are particular to their language.  Such issues
may
include technology, proficiency standards, heritage learners, testing
and
assessment, etc.

DAY THREE:  EXPLORING SHARED ISSUES AND NEEDS
Joint session (half day)
This session of the workshop will be devoted to discussion of the issues
raised in the first two days and setting of priorities for action.

Detailed information about the presentations on Day One will be
announced
soon.

The Center for Middle Eastern Studies at Emory has limited financial
support
(reimbursement) available for eligible participants.  For general
inquiries
or to register for the workshop, please contact Nick Fabian in the
Department of Middle Eastern and South Asian Studies, Emory University,
at
rfabian at emory.edu or (404)727-2697 .

Deadline for registration is April 30, 2003

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:52:23 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:52:23 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Can you greet nominatively?
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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: Muhammad S Eissa <eissa at umich.edu>
Subject:Can you greet nominatively?

Salaam all:

I grew up and taught for decades using the greeting "SabaaHa/masaa'a
al-kahyr" in the accusative form. Therefore, hearing others using it in
the nominative  form"SabaaHu/masaa'u al-khayr" raised not a question of
correctness but rather of frequency. Would anyone enlighten me more in
this regard? Thanks in advance.

Salaam

Muhammad S. Eissa, Ph. D. (On Leave)
Department of Near Eastern Studies,
University of Michigan,

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:52:44 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:52:44 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Music and Poetry abt War in Lebanon query
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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: Ulla Prien <prien at hum.ku.dk>
Subject:Music and Poetry abt War in Lebanon query

I?m posting this for a group of students from Copenhagen University.
?
Ulla Prien
University instructor?
The Carsten Niebuhr Institute
Copenhagen University.

We are going on a study-tour to Syria and Lebanon and we? are looking  
for recent poetry and music dealing the civilwar in Lebanon?and the  
reconciliation process. We are especially interested in the new  
generation of lebanese artists.?We are interested both in some material  
for studying prior to the trip and eventually?in attending events and  
meeting artists during our?trip, 11/5 - 23/5 2003. Any suggestions will  
be wellcomed, best regards Anna and Jakob.?

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:52:48 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:52:48 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:CAI for Arabic Consultant Job
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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: dstephens at ncsu.edu
Subject:CAI for Arabic Consultant Job

We need an Arabic linguist, fluent in Arabic and conversant with the
linguistics of the language.  It is for a paid consultation on computer
assisted language learning.  Applicants can write to me.

best regards,
Dwight Stephens
dstephens at ncsu.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Thu Feb 20 15:54:45 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 08:54:45 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:NMELRC/MIddlebury Arabic Instructor Training Seminar
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Date: 20 Feb 2003
From: Stan_Jarvis at byu.edu
Subject:NMELRC/MIddlebury Arabic Instructor Training Seminar

NMELRC is happy to announce that it will offer its first Arabic  
Instructor Training Seminar, to be?held inMiddlebury,VermontJuly 18-  
August 1, 2003in cooperation withMiddleburyCollege.??The?seminar  
activities will be carried out in conjunction?with the Middlebury  
College School of Arabic, which will?provide?participants with the  
opportunity to immerse themselves in an intensive?learning and teaching  
environment at all levels of proficiency.?

The?seminar will focus on all aspects of college level Arabic  
instruction: syllabus design,?developing students' abilities in the  
various skills, teaching grammar and vocabulary, facilitating small  
group work, assessment and testing.??It will provide both theoretical  
training in pedagogy and hands-on training through class observation  
and?practice teaching.

Training sessions?will be led by?Dr. Kristen Brustad (EmoryUniversity),  
Dr. Mahdi Alosh (OhioState), Dr. Mahmoud Abdallah?(WashingtonUniv.St  
Louis &?MiddleburyCollege, and Dr.Mahmoud Al-Batal(Emory).

The cost for participation in this seminar includes personal  
transportation to Middlebury and $600 for room and board for two weeks  
for?participants who?opt to live in the same residence hall?in which  
students and faculty of theSchoolofArabiclive.?The accommodations are  
in suites with shared facilities.? Any who would prefer to live off  
campus can do so by contacting some of the?hotels or motels in the  
Middlebury area. Please note that living off campus requires a car.??

Only 15 people can be accommodated for this year?s seminar.? Therefore  
the process of acceptance will be competitive.? Much of the decision  
will be based on the statement of purpose submitted in individual  
applications.? The Arabic Language Board of NMELRC will consider the  
applications and make the final selection.?Final selections are  
expected by May 10to give sufficient time for those who are accepted to  
send their room and board fees to Middlebury and to handle their  
personal travel arrangements.

?

All interested applicants should send the following information  
immediately to NMELRCathttp://nmelrc.byu.edu.

APPLICATION TO ATTEND THE 2003 ARABIC INSTRUCTOR TRAINING SEMINAR ?

A. PERSONAL INFORMATION

1. Name:????????-

2. Institution: ? -

3. Position: ??? -

4. Campus address:

????????????????????????????????????

5. Campus phone???? :?????????? ??????????? ??????????????????????? fax:

6. Campus e-mail:

?

7. Home address:

??

8. Home phone:

9. Home e-mail:

?

?

B. BACKGROUND INFORMATION

??????????? 1. How much experience teaching Arabic in US?

??????????? 2. What prior training in language instruction?

3. Have you had overseas learning in Arabic?

4. Do you have native language Arabic capability?

?

?

C. CONSIDERATION STATEMENT

Please submit a statement of purpose of 500 words or less to explain  
your future career goals and how this teacher training seminar will  
help you achieve these goals. Also discuss your expectations from  
participation in the seminar.

?

?

?

Stan Jarvis
Coordinator, NMELRC
Stan_Jarvis at byu.edu
801 422-7192


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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 21 22:48:24 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:48:24 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:NWAVE 32 in Philly
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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: Uri Horesh <urih at babel.ling.upenn.edu>
Subject:NWAVE 32 in Philly

** PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY - APOLOGIES FOR MULTIPLE POSTINGS **

        The 32nd annual meeting of NWAVE will be held in Philadelphia at
the University of Pennsylvania from October 9th to 12th, 2003.  The
theme of the meeting is LANGUAGE HISTORY AND LANGUAGE CONTACT.

        For more information and the Call for Papers, see the NWAVE32 web
site:

       http://www.ling.upenn.edu/NWAVE

       Looking forward to seeing you all in Philadelphia in the fall,


                                        THE NWAVE COMMITTEE

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 21 22:48:32 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:48:32 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Reflexes of Daad
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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: dparvaz at mac.com
Subject:Reflexes of Daad

> Now my question, Is it possible that some dialects of Arabic,
> particularly those confined to the Arabian Peninsula have maintained a
> lateral fricative articulation of Daad?

Caveat: this is anecdotal, and based on recollection.

In some Baghdadi speakers, I've heard a couple of variants. While
working in MSA, I have heard Daad pronounced as a lateral fricative
postvocalically. In colloquial Arabic, It looks like it slips to a
pharyngealized alveolar fricative as in "maZbuuT."  Again, this looks
postvocalic.

So, can this be described in your favorite theory/formalism (whatever
that is :-) as assimilating [+ cont] (and maybe even [+strident])?
Again, I haven't really investigated this.

Cheers,

Dan.

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 21 22:48:14 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:48:14 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Naval Academy Job
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1) Subject:Naval Academy Job

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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: "William H. Fletcher" <fletcher at usna.edu>
Subject:Naval Academy Job

United States Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD.

Full-time, tenure-track position in Modern Standard Arabic.  Starting
date
flexible after October 2003 but no later than 5 January 2004. PhD or ABD
with dissertation completed by January 2004.  The successful candidate
will
develop an entirely new Arabic program, and will teach 9-12 credits per
semester. Research in an appropriate field and institutional service
expected. Position will remain open until filled.  U.S. Naval Academy
civilian faculty members are federal government employees.  U.S.
citizenship
is required.

Send vita and application letter to: Arabic Search Committee, Language
Studies Department, U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD 21402, or email to
fletcher at usna.edu

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 21 22:48:52 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 15:48:52 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Nominative Greeting responses
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2) Subject:Nominative Greeting further question
3) Subject:Nominative Greeting response
4) Subject:Nominative Greeting response
5) Subject:Nominative Greeting response

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Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: Haidar Moukdad <haidar.moukdad at mail.mcgill.ca>
Subject: Nominative Greeting response

SabaaHu/masaa'u al-khayr (the nominitive form) makes more sense. Since
the
existence of a verb is not implied, the  greeting is treated as a noun
phrase. In many "colloquial" dialects, the frequency and correctness  of
using accusative or nominative forms are irrelevant, since a "sukuun" is
used at the end of SabaaH/masaa'.

Haidar Moukdad
Dalhousie University

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2)
Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: Mary <marynach at yahoo.com>
Subject: Nominative Greeting response

Also, which one is more correct, and why (Sabaahu-l-khayr or
Sabaaha-l-khayr, and same for masaa'a-l-khayr vs. masaa'u-l-khayr)?
Mary Nachtrieb

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3)
Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject: Nominative Greeting response

You can do anything you please in fusha!

I suppose masaa'u l-khayri is more a declaration than a greeting, ya
Muhammadu: ('innahu masaa'u l-khayri).

Waheedun.

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4)
Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: M Alhamad <ahmmm at essex.ac.uk>
Subject: Nominative Greeting response

Hello all,

To answer Muhammad's question about the case of "sabaH/masa' al-khayr":

I think you can use both forms: nominative and accusative. It is the
same
when we use most of the adverbs of time like: yawm, shahr, sanah = day,
month, year...etc.
For example: if you ask: "when are you coming to visit me?" the answer
would
be: "yawm-a al-jumcah" = "Friday Day-Acc" with accusative form.
However, if
you ask: "which is the best day in the week?", the answer would be:
"yawm-u
al-jumcah" = "Friday Day-Nom" with nominative form.
The same is applied to "sabaHa/ sabaHu al-khayr". If it is considered
as an
adverb of time, it would be used in the accusative form. However, if it
is
considered as a part of a nominal sentence (verbless sentence), it
would be
used in the nominative form (as if it means: "sabaH-u al-khayr-i
calayk" as
we say in English: "Good morning to you".

I personally prefer to use it in the nominative form "sabaHu". I think
it is
more likely to be part of a nominal sentence than to be an adverb of
time
(although it is common to be used in this form).

I hope this helps to answer your question.

Mohammad Alhamad
University of Essex
UK

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5)
Date: 21 Feb 2003
From: Dil Parkinson <dil at byu.edu
Subject: Nominative Greeting response

I can't resist adding my two bits.  Technically I think you would have
to say that the accusative form is the only correct one when the phrase
is used in a greeting:  all greetings are considered to be adverbs,
compare marHaban, 'ahlan, etc.  However, I find it interesting that
there seems to be a drift in the direction of nominative.  When I was
doing research on oral vowelling perfomance I found a similar
phenomenon in many different settings.  Here is my (admittedly totally
ad hoc) explanation:  you never really have to put the ending vowels
on, even if your performance is otherwise 'fusha' in every way.  You
choose to put them on to mark your performance in a particular way.  It
is a kind of claim for elegance, educatedness, high-fallutin'-ness, or
whatever you want to call it.  If accuracy is not a concern, the 'u'
vowel is by far the best to fill this marking function.  An 'i' vowel
particularly, but also an 'a' can be heard not as an attempt at
vowelling but simply as a kind of slur or helping vowel.  But 'u' is
pretty unmistakable.  It says: 'this is a vowelled performance'
bringing along with it whatever social baggage that claim carries with
it.  I once participated in a debate, organized by the Al-Akhbar
newspaper in Cairo, in which my colleague, a professor from Cairo
University, managed to get through an approximately 15 minute monologue
with every word vowelled with 'u' regardless of its actual case.  It
was breathtaking, and to my mind quite revealing of the function of
vowels in oral performances.
Dil
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:12 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:12 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Sufi Poetry query
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1) Subject:Sufi Poetry query (can't tell if it is supposed to be about  
the war or not--moderator)

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1)
Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: Ulla Prien <prien at hum.ku.dk>
Subject:Sufi Poetry query

Another question from a group of students from Copenhagen University;
?
Hello.We are a group of studenst?preparing a speach about?syrian and  
lebanese (civil war)?poetry.We have manageded to find quit?a lot about  
of poetry and music about that theme. But we are also interested in  
islamic sufi poetry and music, but that had turned up to be more  
difficult.?Could anybody help us get information on this subject.  
A?name, number or a homepage adresse?in the internet. Anything would do!
We have a deadline on tuesday the 4 mars. So we are in a bit of a  
hurry. So please write to me on my e-mail hamidanaji at hotmail.com
?as soon as possible.
your sincerly
Hamida Naji?

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:17 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:17 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arab Academy Ad
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Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: sanaa at arabacademy.com
Subject:Arab Academy Ad

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:19 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:19 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LIT:Needs English articles on Quran
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Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: waleed at talk21.com
Subject:Needs English articles on Quran

Greets to all,
Could you kindly tell titles of journals written in English where I can
find articles on the Qur'an, in particular, its translation.
I need them for a data base I am setting up.
Regards,
Dr. Waleed Al-Amri

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:14 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:14 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Arabic blushing query
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1)
Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: Christine Patricia Murphy <cpm23 at columbia.edu>
Subject:Arabic blushing query

Hello!

         My name is Christine Murphy; I am currently a senior in Columbia
University's Anthropology department, and would like to ask if I may
draw
on the experience and resources of those on this listserv to help inform
my senior thesis.

         I am looking into the cross-cultural significance of the
physiological and emotional responses associated with blushing, and
their
implications for nonverbal communication.   I wonder if anyone out
there has encountered related terms in his/her studies of Arabic (for
the
internal response, if not for an outward physical sign: verb, noun, or
adjective).

         The scope of such terms might include (but is certainly not
limited to) associations with the physical manifestations of
embarrassment, shame, anger, sexual attraction, or modesty, my
particular
interest being evidence of perceivable facial difference, perhaps by a
change in skin appearance (as is indicated in the English verb "to
blush"). I could consult a dictionary, but I am sure that the experience
as researchers and perhaps speakers of Arabic that you all may
offer me is a far greater opportunity, to be sure that the
terms and uses I refer to in my paper are current, salient, not relics
of
linguists overeager to find one-to-one relationships between familiar
and
foreign language systems.

Many thanks, and best wishes for the coming spring -

Sincerely,

Christine Murphy

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:21 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:21 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:NCOLCTL 2003 registration info
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Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: "McGinnis, Scott" <smcginnis at nflc.org>
Subject:NCOLCTL 2003 registration info

Registration and lodging information for NCOLCTL 2003, scheduled for
May 2-4, 2003 at the University of California, Los Angeles, are now
available on line at:

   http://www.international.ucla.edu/lrc/ncolctl/index.html

A complete copy of the conference program will also be available at
that site within the next week to ten days.

We look forward to seeing you in Los Angeles in May!

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:23 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:23 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Reflexes of Daad
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Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: "Schub, Michael" <Michael.Schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:Reflexes of Daad

Let's not forget our Turkish friends' influence on this matter, cf.
/ZaabiT/.  That was then,
this is now.
      Zincirli,

               Mike Schub

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu  Fri Feb 28 19:36:32 2003
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at byu.edu (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:36:32 -0700
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Nominative Greetings
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2) Subject:Nominative Greetings
3) Subject:Nominative Greetings

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Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: enm at umich.edu
Subject:Nominative Greetings

And I cannot resist adding two more cents:

I have heard both used, and in each case the explanation is that you
can fill
in the ellipsis either way:  nom. if the underlying sentence is
SabaaHu-l-
xayri lakum 'A good morning to you' and acc. if the underlying sentence
is 'uSabbiHu-kum SabaaHa-l-xayri 'I bid you a good morning'.

Ernest McCarus

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2)
Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: suma99 at att.net
Subject:Nominative Greetings

I have to agree with the first part of Dil's response. Indeed the
accusative is
the more correct usagez, as most all greetings have the accusative i.e.
ahlan
wa sahlan, marhaban, even duas and other one or two word expressions
have the
accustaive such as: hajjan mabruran said to the hajji, jam'an said to
the
worshipper after jumuah prayers in Egypt; also  sam'an wa taa'ah;and
many other
examples.
However I vehemently disagree with his last comments that final
vowelization
has nothing to do with accuracy of speech or fusha as he put it. Indeed
it has
everything to do with fusha, granted it may also have social
implications of
how educated or high fallutten the speaker is.

Thanks,
Ismael

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3)
Date: 28 Feb 2003
From: "Schub, Michael" <Michael.Schub at trincoll.edu>
Subject:Nominative Greetings

Hello!  Guten Morgen!                      --Mike Schub

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