Arabic-L:PEDA:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
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Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:Steve Robertson <srr29 at email.byu.edu>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
I have used one such dictionary extensively. It's called "Al-Mawrid
Al-Quareeb; A pocket Arabic-English Dictionary" by Dr. Rohi Baalbaki.
I have found it for the most part concise and accurate. It's one major
limitation for foreigners is that it does not list any plural forms.
There is also an English-Arabic version and a combined version of this
dictionary for sale. I have seen it for sale on at amazon.com before.
I hope this helps.
Steve Robertson
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Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:Christian Sinclai r<www.sit.edu/studyabroad>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
Try the al-Mawrid (details below). It's a great dictionary if you
don't =
want to deal with roots. It's got synonyms and prepositions as well =
listed for most words.
best,
Christian Sinclair
Al-Mawrid: Arabic/English Dictionary
Dr. Rohi Baalbaki
Dar El-Ilm LilMalayin, Beirut
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Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
Yes there is one such dictionary. I have it, but not with me at this
time. I think it is the Larousse dictionary, but I could be wrong.
Waheed
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4)
Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:Gergana Atanassova <iana_j at hotmail.com>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
Salam
Ruhi Baalbaki's "Al-Mawrid" (Dar El-Ilm Lilmalayin, Beirut, Lebanon) is
organized alphabetically by whole words rather than roots, so you would
find ittiHaad under hamza (alif) there, instead of w-H-d. The problem
with this dictionary is that it does not list the plural forms of nouns
or adjectives, for example, so if the word has an irregular plural the
only way to find out what its form is, is to go to a root dictionary.
Also, with a root-based dictionary you can get a sense of the general
meaning of the root just by looking at all the derivatives, and thus
the meaning of individual words is easier to understand.
I think a stem-based dictionary is suitable if you just need to look up
a word quickly, but if you need to really understand and learn the
word, you need a root-based one. I personally have both types at home
:)
Gergana
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Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:Jan Hoogland <j.hoogland at let.kun.nl>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
Langenscheidt's Arabic-German is alphabetically ordered.
Maybe there are more.
Jan
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6)
Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:Claudette Mukalla <ibc at ibcbooks.com>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
The International Book Centre may have a book of interest. Dictionary
of Roots of Difficult Words ... by Ghawamid Al-Shah " Al-Safadi."
Description: At long last, this is a dictionary with lists of the
roots of difficult words in the Arabic language. Hardbound 224 Pages,
Published in 1997. Price is $29.95.
Claudette with International Book centre, Inc. website:
www.ibcbooks.com
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Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:Ahmed Ferhadi <ahmed.ferhadi at nyu.edu>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
I know of an alphabetical Arabic-English dictionary
as such, called "al qaamus al aSrii al alfbaa'ii by
Alyaas (Elias) but I don't recall the details of the
publisher.
Ahmed Ferhadi
New York University
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8)
Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:J Murgida <jmurg at ttlc.net>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
Al-Mawrid Arabic-English Dictionary, al-Ba'albakki, dar al-`ilm
lil-malaayiin, Beirut. Mine is the 8th ed., 1996. I don't know if
there's a
more recent edition.
It's organized alphabetically by the first letter of the stem, which is
great when you're not sure of the root. A great drawback is that if
you're
looking for a broken plural and you don't know the singular, you have to
guess at what it might be. When you look up that singular stem, the
plural
is normally not given [unless the plural means something other than
just
the plural of the singular -- like ma`luum/ma`luumaat]. So if you're
looking
up madaaris and you guess that the singular is madrasah, you don't get
confirmation that you've got the right singular.
Of course, this normally isn't a problem for native speakers of Arabic,
but
we foreigners could use that confirmation or an indication that we got
the
wrong singular and should try again. I use both Wehr and al-Mawrid when
translating from Arabic into English. And as you say, it's great for
students, although they still have to know enough morphology to figure
out
what the stem is, i.e., that they have to look up yaSifu under waSafa.
Best regards,
Jackie
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Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:MULTILINGUAL TRANSLATION SYSTEM <info at cimos.com>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
Dear ALL,
Yes, we can provide an Arabic- English dictionary organised by stem.
Best regards
From info at cimos.com Tel 00 33 1 43 66 31 90
CIMOS
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10)
Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:Andrew Dempsey <andrew at egyptianarabic.com>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
This is an interesting issue that we faced as we developed our Egyptian
Arabic Vocab Clinic software, which is designed to try to accommodate
people who haven't any idea about verb forms, etc. We ended up listing
our 3000+ items by root in the end because the issues surrounding
the "as is" were so complex.
I do not recall coming across any publications that DIDN'T use the root
system, which influenced the decision for us also
to use it. I would be curious, like you, to know of any dictionaries
that
use a pure letter-by-letter approach.
Andrew
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Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:Muhammad Aziz <maaziz50 at hotmail.com>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
You may try Al-Mawrid by Dr. Rohi Baalbaki, Dar El-Ilm Lilmalayin.
Muhammad Aziz
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12)
Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:Muhammad S Eissa <eissa at umich.edu>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
Yes, there is an Arabic English dictionary organized by stem. Check
"Al-Mawrid: Arabic/English. There is by lingual edition for both
Eng./Ar. &
Ar./Eng which I find very convenient.
Muhammad S. Eissa, Ph. D.
9411 Harding Ave.,
Evanston, IL 60203
Ph./Fax (847) 329-1191
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Date: 17 Nov 2003
From:dwilmsen <dwilmsen at aucegypt.edu>
Subject:Dictionary Organized by Stem, not by root
Al Mawrid
A Modern Arabic-English Dictionary
Rohi Baalbaki
Dar El-Ilm Lilmalayin
Beirut, Lebanon
PO Box 1085
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