Arabic-L:LING:Color Adjectives responses

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Date: 29 Oct  2003
From: Waheed Samy <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject: Color Adjectives response

" huwa 'ashaddu sawaadan min-haa," can we?
yes.

So can we say,
huwa 'ashaddu bayaaDan,
yes

huwa 'ashaddu Hamaaran,
probably Humratan

huwa 'ashaddu khaDaaran,
yes

huwa 'ashaddu Safaaran, and
yes

huwa 'ashaddu zaraaqan, too?
probably zurqatan

In addition to those, i have once found a sentence like
"huwa 'abyaDu min xxx" in the prophets' stories of Ibn Kathiir.
Are the sentences like "huwa 'aswad min xxx, " "huwa 'aHmar min xxx,"
and so on absolutely wrong? Or are they allowed as a matter of fact
though they are incorrect in a narrow sence?

They are okay in colloquial, except:
huwa 'aHmar min xxx,
which means "he is more of a Humaar",
where Humaar has a number of related meanings:
idiot, ass, stupid, dumb; ignorant...


Can we say,
huwa 'awrad (more pink <wardii), or
huwa 'abannu (more brown <bunnii), too?
I would not.

How can we say "more orange-colored"?
colloquial:  da burtu'aani 'aktar (min da)

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Date: 29 Oct  2003
From: suma99 at att.net
Subject: Color Adjectives response

More pink is ashaddu wardiyan
and more brown ashaddu bunniyan
more orange ashaddu burtuqaliyan

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Date: 29 Oct  2003
From: shawky <shawky at aucegypt.edu>
Subject: Color Adjectives response

Dear Haruko
you asked whether we can say huwa 'ashaddu Hamaaran,KhaDaaran,
Safaaran, and
zaraaqan.
In Arabic color adjectives we do not have pattern "af8al" ,especially
when the
feminin of that  adjective /word is" fa8laa'" i:e" hamraa'". WE cannot
derive
the comparative form the color adjective 'abyad- 'akhDar- 'ahmar
-immediately
but we use an auxillially verb like "'ashad" "'aqwa" "'aqal".
Therefore we say Huwa 'ashaddu  bayaaDan
                Huwa 'ashaddu  ihmiraaran/ homra
                Huwa 'ashaddu  ikhDiraaran/khodra
                Huwa 'ashaddu  iSfiraaran
                Huwa 'ashaddu  zorqa ( masDar 'azraq= Zorqa)
I hope you find it useful to you.

Nehad

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