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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:02:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:New Listserv software
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1) Subject:New Listserv software

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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:moderator
Subject:New Listserv software

Arabic-L has been migrated to new listserv software.  While in the  
end this will be a boon, it currently is causing some adjustment  
problems, so it may be a few days before I am able to get the  
messages you have sent out.  When everything is working, you will be  
able to examine your account on the web, change your mail receiving  
options (to digest or back) or you can have it hold your mail for you  
until you get back from vacation, and then send it all at once, etc.   
You can also choose to have other members of the list have access to  
your e-mail address or not.  It will also allow you to change to  
another e-mail address right on the web.  It is now set to NOT  
receive attachments, so if you send a message with attachments, even  
those little blurbs with your personal info, the message will  
probably bounce back to you without ever coming to me.  So you will  
need to figure out a way to send your message without attachments.   
More details later.
Dil

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug  1 18:35:41 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:35:41 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:ALS 2007 Call for Papers
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1) Subject:ALS 21 Call for Papers

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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:ALS 21 Call for Papers

Call for Papers
The Arabic Linguistics Society and

Brigham Young University

announce the

Twenty-first Annual Symposium on Arabic Linguistics
to be held at the

Brigham Young University

Provo, Utah

March 2-3, 2007
Papers are invited on topics that deal with theoretic and applied  
issues of Arabic Linguistics. Research in the following areas of  
Arabic linguistics is encouraged: grammatical analysis (phonology,  
morphology, syntax, semantics), applied linguistics,  
sociolinguistics, psycholinguistics, discourse analysis, historical  
linguistics, corpus linguistics, computational linguistics, etc.

Persons interested in presenting papers are requested to submit a one- 
page abstract giving the title of the paper, a brief statement of the  
topic, and a summary clearly stating how the topic will be developed  
(the reasoning, data, or experimental results to be presented).  
Authors are requested to be as specific as possible in describing  
their topics.  Print your name, affiliation and return e-mail address  
at the top of the e-mail.  It will be removed before being forwarded  
to the review committee.  Abstracts should be submitted by e-mail to  
Tessa Hauglid at tessa at sfcn.org

2007 ALS membership dues of $25 and conference fees of $50 (total  
$75) are to be submitted with all abstracts and must be received by  
the abstract deadline. Special financial arrangements will be made  
for local students and scholars.  Membership dues are non-refundable;  
conference fees are refundable, if requested, only to those whose  
papers are not accepted.

Deadline for Receipt of Abstracts: November 15, 2006

Abstracts questions to:
Tessa Hauglid
E-Mail: tessa at sfcn.org

PLEASE NOTE:  This will be a non-smoking conference, since smoking is  
forbidden not only in the building in which the sessions will be  
held, but on the surrounding campus.  Also note that while coffee and  
tea are available in the hotels off campus, they are not available on  
campus, and will not be provided during the sessions.  If this is  
going to be a problem, you should probably not apply for this years  
conference.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:26:51 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:26:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:responses to ALS 2007 Call
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1) Subject:response to ALS 2007 Call
2) Subject:response to ALS 2007 Call

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:?? (moderator)
Subject:coffee in thermos OK

I got a message (which I somehow managed to lose, and I can't  
remember who it was from) asking if it would be OK to bring coffee in  
a thermos to the ALS sessions.  Since BYU does not have a policy  
excluding that, it should be OK.  Try to be as surreptitious as  
possible.  It will make it more amusing.
Dil

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:urih at babel.ling.upenn.edu
Subject:gays and lesbians welcome

I wonder what impact Brigham Young University's discrimanatory policy  
on lesbians and gays might have on the hospitality of lesbian and gay  
members of ALS.

As an example, allow me to quote from the University's Honor Code:

"Advocacy of a homosexual lifestyle (whether implied or explicit) or  
any behaviors that indicate homosexual conduct, including those not  
sexual in nature, are inappropriate and violate the Honor Code.
Violations of the Honor Code may result in actions up to and  
including separation from the University."

(http://honorcode.byu.edu/ 
Honor_Code__Live_a_Chaste_and_Virtuous_Life.htm)

Uri Horesh
University of Pennsylvania & Georgetown University

[Dil answers: BYU will not do background checks on any of the  
conference attendees, so it shouldn't be an issue.  If you intend to  
participate in a demonstration or hold a placard as you walk across  
campus, I think you will find yourself not welcome.  How welcome you  
feel otherwise would probably depend on how comfortable you are in  
general in a fairly conservative religious university environment.]

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:26:53 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:26:53 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:University of Exeter Job
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1) Subject:University of Exeter Job

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:Paul Auchterlonie <J.P.C.Auchterlonie at exeter.ac.uk>
Subject:University of Exeter Job

Sharjah Chair of Islamic Studies, Institute of Arab & Islamic
Studies, School of Humanities and Social Sciences, University of
Exeter, U.K. - Ref. 9173.

Applications are invited for the Sharjah Chair of Islamic Studies,
tenable from a start date between October 2006 and September 2007.

The appointee will be expected to have a research and publication
record of the highest international standing in the broad field of
Arabic and/or Islamic studies.  In teaching and research supervision
the appointee will similarly be expected to have shown academic
leadership in promoting the subject area.  The ability to demonstrate
administrative leadership will be an advantage.

Fields of interest may include any concentration or combination of
Arabic and/or Islamic studies.  An illustrative, but not exclusive,
list of research/teaching domains of interest will be: Islamic history
and civilisation, Islamic theology and philosophy, Sufism and
contemporary Islamic studies, Arab/Islamic intellectual history, the
sociology and anthropology of Islam, classical Arabic literature and
literary criticism, Arabic grammar and linguistics and translation
studies.

Salary will be by negotiation.  Interviews will be held on 11 October
2006 or soon thereafter.  For an informal discussion of the post,
please contact Professor Rasheed El-Enany at r.el-enany at exeter.ac.uk
or +44 (0)1392 26 40 27.  Application packs for this post are
available from www.exeter.ac.uk/jobs; e-mail M.A.Wills at exeter.ac.uk ;
or telephone (01392) 263120, quoting reference number 9173.  The
closing date for completed applications is 11 September 2006.
----------------------

Posted by Paul Auchterlonie, Librarian for Middle East
Studies, University of Exeter (but for enquiries see above).

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:26:58 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:26:58 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs responses to question formats
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1) Subject:Needs responses to question formats

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:melsayess at socal.rr.com
Subject:Needs responses to question formats

Arabic question formats:

ALI system on the internet needs to handle different types of  
question formats. We need your help to make sure our system can meet  
your expectations. We would appreciate your help in reviewing the  
below different question formats and any feedback, concern, or  
critique would be appreciated.


Please, download these two word documents.

http://www.readverse.com/ALI_test_cases.zip

Thank you.
Mahmoud Elsayess
www.readverse.c

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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:08 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Al-Dhad Center opens in Cairo
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1) Subject:Al-Dhad Center opens in Cairo

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:Iman Soliman <halleluiah3 at yahoo.com>
Subject:Al-Dhad Center opens in Cairo

Dear All
It is our great pleasure to announce the opening of Al-Dhad Arabic  
language training and resource center in Cairo. The center offers  
educational and training services to Arabic language students ,  
teachers,  researchers and educational bodies.
Please check our website: www.al-dhadarabic.com
In case of any queries regarding Al-Dhad please email us at info at al- 
dhadarabic.com
Best
Iman A. Soliman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:27:06 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:06 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:SAIS reader response
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1) Subject:SAIS reader response

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:IBCBOOKS.COM <ibc at ibcbooks.com>
Subject:SAIS reader response

> Does anyone know where I can locate an answer key for
> the SAIS Arabic Reader in International Affairs or
> other supporting materials?

This is in answer to summer Loomis request for materials for the SAIS  
Arabic
Reader
Our company has purchase the last of these Reader. Price of the  
Readrs in
International Affairs in Advanced
Arabic is $45.00. There is no CD's Available however. Please find  
further
information on our
website at: www.ibcbooks.com    Claudette

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:27:02 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:02 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:address correction for Arab Academy
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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:sanaa at arabacademy.com
Subject:address correction for Arab Academy

Just wanted to correct the web address of the Arab Academy.  It is:   
http://www.arabacademy.com/ not http://www.arabicacademy.com/.  We  
are the Arab Academy not the Arabic Academy.
Best regards,
Sanaa Ghanem,
(http://www.arabacademy.com/ghanem)
President, Arab Academy,
3 Alif Kamil El-Shinnawi Street (Formerly: Al-Nabataat Street),
Garden City 14511, Cairo, Egypt
E-mail: info at arabacademy.com
Web Inquiries: http://www.arabacademy.com/contact_e.htm
Web Site: http://www.arabacademy.com
Tel.: +2 012 218 0305
Fax: +202 589 1499

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:27:04 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:04 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:'r' pronunciation
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1) Subject:'r' pronunciation
2) Subject:'r' pronunciation

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:dstewar at learnlink.emory.edu
Subject:'r' pronunciation

The pronunciation of r in Fez, Morocco that several contributors have  
noted--it
is also found in the old, urban dialects of several cities in the  
North of
Morocco, like Tangiers, Tetouan--is not a speech defect, but neither  
is it a
-w- as has been implied.  It sounds nearly like the American English - 
r-.

The other cases, found throughout the Arab world, usually involve the
pronunciation of -r- as gh, less commonly as -w- -y- or -l- as has  
been noted.
Similar phenomena occur in all languages with trilled r's, like  
italian and
Spanish.  A certain portion of the population is physically unable to  
produce
the trilled -r-; I don't agree with the contributor who suggested  
that this can
be fixed by a speech pathologist.  the classical term for it is  
althagh [fi
'r-ra']; this becomes aldagh, fem. ladgha in Egyptian and perhaps other
dialects.  It is actually the default meaning, I believe, of aldagh-- 
that is,
if one does not specify the letter affected by being aldagh, the  
assumption is
that it is ra', and not sin.  The most famous althagh in history was  
of course
Wasil b. `Ata', the eighth-century founder of the Mu`tazili school  
theology,
who was famously asked to repeat the statement: amara amiiru l- 
umaraa' bi-Hafri
bi'rin fi S-SaHraa' yashrabu minha l-waaridu wa'S-Saadir, which he  
did, but
paraphrasing it so as to avoid any word with the letter -r-.   Many  
people know
this phrase from highschool in the Arab world, but don't knoow that  
it is
attributed to WaaSil.

Best wishes,

Devin Stewart, Winship Distinguished Research Professor of Arabic and  
Islamic
Studies
Department of Middle Eastern and South Asian Studies
Emory University
Atlanta, GA 30322
(404) 727-4625 ; fax (404) 727-2133

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:Alex Bellem <alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk>
Subject:'r' pronunciation

Although vocalised or velarised 'r' is noted as a 'speech peculiarity'
(i.e. ideolectal feature), 'luthgha', it is a characteristic sound
change of Jewish and Christian Baghdadi, as well as apparently in Mosul
and Tikrit (until the 1960s at least) - cf. Blanc's 1964 'Communal
Dialects in Baghdad'. He observes that the phenomenon was first noted by
al-JaHiZ in the 9th century CE, when it was apparently prestigious.

Blanc states (p. 22) that for his informants for dialects having 'gh'
(<etymological 'r'), the 'gh' is sometimes produced with little or no
audible velar constriction, making it thus impressionistically similar
to 'w'. Cf. also Abu-Haidar (1991) on this feature in Christian Baghdadi
Arabic, where she discusses 'gh' as the reflex of 'r'.

Blanc notes reports of this phenomenon outside Iraq 'as a stable
phonetic feature' (rather than an individual speech peculiarity) in some
Nth African areas (Marcais reports it for Djidjelli [town only, not
surrounding countryside] and suggests the same also for Tunis,
Constantine, Algiers, Fez, Meknes  - calling it 'une maladie des
villes'). Blanc concludes due to its prevalence in Iraq that there may
be traces of a 'r' > 'gh' shift in the older sedentary dialects of Iraq.

I have to comment that it seems a very common feature of (urban 'gilit')
Iraqi Arabic generally, although speakers themselves will tell you it's
a 'luthgha' or speech peculiarity (presumably due to external or MSA/CA
influence). In striking contrast, I don't remember hearing it among
Syrian or Palestinian speakers very much, and always thought it was
characteristically Iraqi. It seems to me much more prevalent amongst
Iraqi men than women. I have heard a clearly dorsal 'gh', although more
often it seems somewhat between an alveolar approximant and a labio-
velar glide (i.e. somewhat more labialised than RP English 'r').

Grrrreetings,
Alex.
-- 
Alex Bellem (Ms)
Tutor / PhD Candidate
Dept of Linguistics
SOAS, University of London
alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk
ab12 at soas.ac.uk

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Thu Aug  3 14:04:20 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:04:20 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi
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1) Subject:Needs Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi

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Date: 03 Aug 2006
From:John Joseph Colangelo <yaacolangelo at hotmail.com>
Subject:Needs Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi

I am desperately looking for a copy of الكتاب الأساسي   
along with the tapes and any extra teaching material that comes with  
it. I am also interested in the cassettes. I understand it is an  
excellent book.

Thankyou,
John Colangelo

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Thu Aug  3 14:04:17 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:04:17 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Problems with Arabic on Firefox
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1) Subject:Problems with Arabic on Firefox

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Date: 003 Aug 2006
From:rsaslan <rsaslan at gmail.com>
Subject:Problems with Arabic on Firefox

Perhaps someone here can offer advice to my problem. I recent started
using Firefox after switching from Internet Explorer and have had
trouble viewing Arabic characters. In Explorer, I just set my options
to allow me to view Arabic script. But with Firefox, I thought I did
the same, I set the script to view Arabic, except that it seems to get
un-set each time I go to another webpage.

So whenever I come across something written in Arabic it appears like
garble and each time I have to go to view in the toolbar and manually
click on Arabic character encoding for each page I visit.

Is this a problem with the Firefox browser or have I not set my
options correctly? Anyone else experience the same problem or have any
ideas as to how I can have the language encoding keep its settings?

Thanks,
Rose Aslan

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:26:56 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:26:56 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Wants electronic dictionary recommendations
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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:Bill Cathey <b.cathey at yahoo.com>
Subject:Wants electronic dictionary recommendations

Hello,
Could anyone offer any advice or recommendations on choosing an  
Arabic <> English bilingual electronic dictionary (a handheld device,  
not a Web site)? I have no trouble finding the devices on commercial  
Web sites, but I would like to know what devices are considered best  
by professionals. Any specific recommendations you could offer or  
sources where I might find noncommercial reviews or recommendations  
would be much appreciated.

I've seen one advertised called, Al-Mawrid Talking Dictionary  
BAS-1875, which is described on one commercial Web site as: "the  
official authorized Arabic/English dictionary in the United Nations,  
and is aimed at Arabic speakers who wish to communicate in the  
English language." Is it also a good one for English speakers  
learning Arabic?


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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:00 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs refs on non-native Arabic acquisition
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1) Subject:Needs refs on non-native Arabic acquisition

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:Emma Trentman <dancingemu at gmail.com>
Subject:Needs refs on non-native Arabic acquisition

Hello,

I'm looking for articles and studies on the acquisition of Arabic  
dialect(s) by non-native speakers.  Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Emma Trentman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:27:09 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:09 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Lemma Query
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1) Subject:Lemma Query

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:capraia at yahoo.com
Subject:Lemma Query

ahlan!

i´d like to know what is the way to express the
'lemma' (following Sinclair´s terminology) in arabic.

in english lingusitics (and other latin script
languages')it is a convention to express the lemma in
capital letters. so, the lemma SING would account for
sing, sings, sang, song, etc...but since there´s no
distinction for capital letters in arabic i wonder how
it is specified.

would it be enough to use the radicals? i.e.: ktb
would account for kataba, yaktub, maktab, makatib
etc...because, in that case, the arabic lemma would
cover much more info than, for instance, the english
one.

shukran

-p

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Thu Aug  3 14:29:49 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:29:49 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LIST:Information about New Listserv
Message-ID: <THU.3.AUG.2006.082949.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

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1) Subject:NInformation about New Listserv

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Date: 03 Aug 2006
From:moderator
Subject:Information about New Listserv

As I mentioned in an earlier message, Arabic-L has been migrated to  
updated listserv software.  This adds an archive at Arabic-L itself  
(besides the archive maintained by Linguist), and it also allows you  
more control over your own subscription.  Here is how it works.

1. Determine what e-mail address you are signed up to Arabic-L  
under.  (This is important, because the other steps won't work unless  
you have the right version of your address.)  If you can't figure it  
out, e-mail me directly at dil at byu.edu.

2. Using a browser, log on to listserv.byu.edu.

3. Click on Get a LISTESERV password for this server.  This will  
bring you to a page where you will type in the e-mail address  
mentioned in #1 above, and then set a password, which you need to  
remember.

4. Go back to the listserv.byu.edu page and log on with your e-mail  
address and password.

5. Click on Subscriber's Corner.

6. A list of the things you are subscribed to will appear (probably  
just Arabic-L).

7. Click on Arabic-L to view and change your subscriber options.

8. On this page you can
	a. change the e-mail address you want to be subscribed from, by  
typing in the new address in the box (over the old one)
	b. change your subscription type: regular just posts the messages as  
I send them out, digest combines them into one long message and sends  
them out once a day, and index (I think) sends you the headers only.
	c. change the mail header style
	d. change the acknowledgements: noack means you won't receive  
confirmation that your message has been sent, and ack means the  
opposite.  If you leave Receive copy of own postings checked or  
unchecked, probably nothing will change.
	e. Miscellaneous: nomail temporarily stops sending you arabic-l  
messages (while you are on vacation, for example).  When you set your  
own local server to send out a message stating that you are away on  
vacation, I get that message for every message I send out.  When you  
multiply that by the number of subscribers on vacation at any one  
time, you might realize why I get hundreds of unwanted messages  
daily.  So, before you go on vacation, if you are going to set your  
own server to send out that message, it would also be nice if you set  
your Arabic-L subscription to nomail.  If I get annoyed enough I will  
do it for you.
	f. if you click Address concealed from REVIEW listing, then  
subscribers who request to see the list of subscribers to Arabic-L  
will not be given access to your address.  If you leave it unchecked,  
subscribers who want to see a list of other subscribers to Arabic-L  
will get a list that will include your address.  Non-subscribers will  
not have access to this list in any case.  If you send a message to  
Arabic-L, however, that in effect gives me permission to put your  
address on the message, so clicking this option doesn't conceal your  
address in all circumstances, only in the case of a subscriber  
sending a REVIEW command to the listserv and receiving back a list of  
subscribers.

9. Before you leave this window, you must click Update Options for  
the new selections to go into effect.

10. If you want to unsubscribe to Arabic-L, simply click on the  
button Leave Arabic-L

Most of the options on the subscriber options page have an underline,  
and if you click on that word you will be given more information  
about that option, although not always all the information you might  
want.

In some lists like Arabic-L the moderator simply sends the message on  
to subscribers without altering it. However, in Arabic-L, the message  
is copied into a template that includes the date, the topic, and  
which groups messages on the same subject together.  To accomplish  
this, I have to 'reject' the original message so it doesn't get  
passed on, and then send the revised format to the list.  If you get  
a rejection notice and then the message comes through anyway, that is  
probably the reason.
Remember, however, that the list is now set to automatically reject  
anything with attachments, so those won't get through to me at all.   
If you must send an attachment, send it directly to me, but it would  
be better to copy the contents of the attachment into the message  
itself, which is what I have to do before I post it.
Any questions?

Dil

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:47 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:47 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Electronic dictionaries response
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1) Subject:Electronic dictionaries response

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:GnhBos at AOL.COM
Subject:Electronic dictionaries response

Hi Bill,

For a long list of available variety of Handheld dictionaries, please  
go to:
http://www.aramedia.com/dictionaries.htm
Please do not hesitate to call us on the numbers, below.

George N. Hallak
www.aramedia.com
www.arabicsoftware.net
www.aramediastore.com
T 1-781-849-0021 F 1-781-849-2922

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:42 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi response
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1) Subject:Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi response

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:Adil Elshikh <adil59 at gmail.com>
Subject:Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi response

Which kitab asasi. There are many kitab asasi. Ther is a kitab asasi
in Khartoum international Institute for Arabic . There is also kitab
asasi published by UmmuQura University.  I will try to do my best to
find one of hem but how to send to you

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:35 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:35 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Needs Urdu font for PCs Suggestion
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1) Subject:Needs Urdu font for PCs Suggestion

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:"Bernhardt, James E" <BernhardtJE at state.gov>
Subject:Needs Urdu font for PCs Suggestion

Colleagues,
	Once again we are faced with on of those font challenges!  We are
looking for an Urdu font for PCs that is reliable and well  
supported.  We
will be using the font in a new distance learning package for Urdu.   
Thank
you for any suggestions or comments on Urdu fonts.
	Jim Bernhardt
	Chair, Department of Near East, Central and South Asian Languages
	The Foreign Service Institute
	U.S. Department of state
	bernhardtje at state.gov
	703-302-7291

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:38 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Another Exeter University Job
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1) Subject:Another Exeter University Job

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:Paul Auchterlonie <J.P.C.Auchterlonie at exeter.ac.uk>
Subject:Another Exeter University Job

The Institute of Arab and Islamic Studies at the University of Exeter
(U.K.) is seeking to appoint a Lecturer/Senior Lecturer/Associate
Professor in Arabic with effect from October 2006, or as soon as
possible thereafter.

The successful appointee will be expected to have a research and
publication record commensurate with the post and the stage they are
at in their career, with expertise in any aspect of the Arabic
language, including (but not restricted to): Arabic grammar and
grammatical theory, Arabic linguistics/sociolinguistics, phonology,
dialectology, translation studies, computer-assisted language
learning, and the teaching of Arabic as a foreign language. He/she
will play a leading role both in the design, delivery and further
development of the teaching and learning of Arabic and also in
managing and coordinating the syllabi, delivery and assessment of
language modules and programmes, each at both undergraduate and
postgraduate levels. Solid advanced knowledge of Arabic grammar and
the mainstream textbooks used to teach the language to non-native
speakers is essential. Familiarity with the use of language labs, the
Internet and WebCt in the teaching of Arabic will be a bonus. The
successful candidate will also be expected to supervise PhD students
working in relevant areas of interest.

For an informal discussion of the post please contact Professor
Rasheed El-Enany at r.el-enany at exeter.ac.uk or +44 (0)1392 26 40 27.

Salary will be circa £28,000, £35,000 and £44,000 for the post of
Lecturer, Senior Lecturer, Associate Professor respectively.

Application packs are available from www.exeter.ac.uk/jobs;
email h.r.hebbard at exeter.ac.uk; or Answer-phone (01392) 263100,
quoting reference number 8456.

The closing date for completed applications is 25 August 2006.



Posted by Paul Auchterlonie, Librarian for Middle East Studies,
University of Exeter. For details of the post please contact:
h.r.hebbard at exeter.ac.uk

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:45 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:45 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Firefox & Arabic advice
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1) Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice
2) Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice
3) Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice
4) Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice
5) Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

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1)
Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:regexer at GMAIL.COM
Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

Rose,

I'm not sure I have enough information to adequately diagnose the  
problem
(your operating system; version of Firefox), but here are some things to
try:

--Upgrade to Firefox 1.5--it's what I'm using now and it opens Arabic  
pages
automatically (I'm using Windows XP, Service Pack 2)
--Check your Windows regional settings. Go to Start-->Settings-->Control
Panel-->Regional and Language Options. Under the 'Languages' tab,  
make sure
the box is checked for "Install files for complex script and right-to- 
left
languages (including Thai)." You might need your Windows installation  
disk.

It's been my experience that any operating system older that Windows  
2000
requires some prodding to handle Arabic, and I personally would not use
Windows 2000 without applying service pack 4.

Please feel free to email me personally if I can be of any help.

Best regards,
Ben Huyck


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2)
Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:andyr at COMP.LEEDS.AC.UK
Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

Rose,

I'm not sure that I can help you fix Firefox, but what I can say is that
I've never had any problems viewing Arabic pages in Firefox. It seems
perfectly capable of auto-detecting the correct encoding and displaying
accordingly.

Is auto-detect set to 'Universal'? (View/Character Encoding/Auto Detect
menu.) Perhaps you've accidentally set it to 'Off' which may be causing
difficulties.

My guess therefore is that some options are not configured correctly for
you. That said, I didn't do anything special to enable Firefox to behave
properly, so perhaps there's a deeper issue at the OS level - perhaps
regarding fonts.

The only time I could forsee Firefox having difficulties is when a web
page doesn't specify its charset correctly. Test with different site.
For example, I know for certain that the al-Hayat site is encoded in
utf8 and displays perfectly (without intervention on my part.)

Andy

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3)
Date: 04 Aug 2006
From: medawar at PANIX.COM
Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

Rose, please try the following:

Tools -> Options -> Content -> Fonts & Colors -> Advanced
-> Arabic (Windows 1256)

This works for me since most content is published with the Microsoft  
Arabic encoding.

bassem

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:afraalmussawir at YAHOO.COM
Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

on the firefox Tools menu select Options, then choose "Content" from
the tabs at the top of the Options screen. you will see a menu for
"Default Font" at the bottom of the screen; next to it click the
Advanced button. from there, the menu at the bottom allows you to
select you "Default Character Encoding." i've never chosen arabic ones
as my default so i am not 100% sure that this will entirely solve the
problem you described. also, there are different arabic codes to
select, so hopefully you will see your preferred one listed there.
best,
afra

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5)
Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:melsayess at SOCAL.RR.COM
Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

Greetings,

I was able to type   ?????  ??????? on Firefox.
Good luck!
Mahmoud Elsayess

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:40 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:40 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic acquisition refs response
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1) Subject:Arabic acquisition refs response

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:<dbacherm at waldenu.edu>
Subject:Arabic acquisition refs response

You might look at the book "Understanding Arabic.  Essays in  
Contemporary Arabic Linguistics in Honor of El-Sai Badawi".  The  
editor is Alaa Eligibali and the book is published by The American  
University of Cairo Press (1996). This has a few essays that speak to  
your topic.   Also, "Diversity in Language" (editors are Z. Ibrahim,  
N. Kassabgy & S. Aydelott) also published by AUC press (2000) has a  
few studies that address your interest.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug  7 14:53:10 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:53:10 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Electronic Dictionaries
Message-ID: <MON.7.AUG.2006.085310.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

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1) Subject:Arabic Electronic Dictionaries

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1)
Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:"Jeremy Palmer" <jeremy.palmer at gmail.com>
Subject:Arabic Electronic Dictionaries

How about a Hans Wehr electronic version?  Anybody doing this or want  
to?

Jeremy

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug  7 14:53:00 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:53:00 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:ALS at BYU?
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1) Subject:ALS at BYU?
2) Subject:Arabic-L at BYU?
3) Subject:Seriously

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Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:Uri Horesh <urih at babel.ling.upenn.edu>
Subject:ALS at BYU?

To follow up on my "query" on lesbians and gays at ALS at Brigham  
Young University:

The real question is not whether people as individuals feel welcome  
or not. The fundamental problem is that our professional organization  
is scheduled to hold its annual meeting at an institution that  
blatantly excludes certain members of society from membership.

I am certain beyond doubt that ALS would never hold a conference in  
an institution that does not admit (let alone one that expels once  
admitted) African-Americans, Jews, Muslims, women, Catholics, people  
who are physically challenged, to name but a few groups  
discrimination against whom is intolerable in our society.

Lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders are no different.  
Discrimination against us is as contradictory to our core notions of  
academic freedom, civil liberties and basic human rights as are anti- 
Semitism, misogyny and xenophobia.

I call upon the officers and membership of ALS to immediately declare  
that institutions with an anti-LGBT policy and practice are unfit for  
hosting any of our membership-wide functions, and to actively seek an  
alternative venue for the 2007 Symposium.

Sincerely,
Uri Horesh
University of Pennsylvania and Georgetown University

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Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:Arabic-L at BYU?

I also think that ALS should immediately expel all officers and  
members who teach at BYU or belong to its supporting church.   
Furthermore, to express our outrage I believe we should all  
immediately withdraw our subscriptions to Arabic-L, which is  
supported both financially and physically by BYU.
Dil

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Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:Seriously

I wish it were a privilege to host the ALS annual symposium,  
something that were being competed for, so the board (the board?)  
would actually have a choice.  That is not the case.  I am grateful  
to BYU for allowing us to have the symposium here next year and would  
hope that our valuing of diversity would extend to the valuing of  
diversity in types of institution that we 'allow' to flourish in our  
multi-cultural and multi-religious society.

You are welcome to send me your comments about this issue, but I will  
not post them for, say, another 2 weeks, at which point I will post a  
summary.

Dil

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug  7 14:53:08 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:53:08 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi
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Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:alatharee at comcast.net (Ali Hassan Al-atharee)
Subject:Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi

I don't know if you live in Va or not but I saw a copy of book one  
and two in halalco last month. here is a website for them http:// 
halalco.com/
these books are difficult to come by, but they are very good books.

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:53:12 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Urdu font suggestions
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Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:"George N. Hallak, Boston" <GnhBos at aol.com>
Subject:Urdu font suggestions

Hi Bernhardt,

Please navigate the AramediA website to www.aramedia.com/uniword.htm
and download a free Demo of Universal Word 2000 (UNICODE Compliant),
ML-1 contains the Arabic based languages: Arabic, Azeri-Arabic, English,
Farsi, Malay-Jawi, Pashto, Urdu, Transliteration, Int'l Phonetic. The  
Urdu
happens to contain about 12 fonts.

UW 2000 sister Utility is OnePen, which can be purchased separately;
OP will insert Urdu (or non-native text) into any application which does
not support such non-native languages. OP-1 supports the above
languages, as in UW 2000 ML-1. www.aramedia.com/onepen.htm

Please do not hesitate from contacting me, anytime, at the numbers,  
below.

Best Regards,
www.aramedia.com
www.arabicsoftware.net
www.aramediastore.com
T 1-781-849-0021 F 1-781-849-2922

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug  8 15:11:13 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:11:13 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Al-Kitaab Al-Asasi source
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Date: 08 Aug 2006
From:"IBCBOOKS.COM" <ibc at ibcbooks.com>
Subject:Al-Kitaab Al-Asasi source

Kataab Al-Assasi ... You can check International Book Centre for  
these books
.. we do have a few left in stock. Claudette  www.ibcbooks.com

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:11:03 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Seminar on Teaching/Learning Arabic K-12 and on
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Date: 08 Aug 2006
From:Kassem Wahba <kmw43 at georgetown.edu>
Subject:Seminar on Teaching/Learning Arabic K-12 and on

[moderator's note: I can't find the date of this seminar anywhere on  
the announcement.  Maybe Kassem can send an addendum giving us the  
date.]

Arabic Language Workshop and Seminar Series


Towards Excellence in Arabic Language Programs




Teaching/Learning Arabic Language in K-12 and Post-Secondary Education

Critical issues and Future Directions

A One-Day Workshop given by the Department of Arabic and Islamic  
Studies, Georgetown University


Developments in recent times have changed the role and status of  
Arabic language teaching and learning in the United States. The  
dramatic increase of interest for learning Arabic combined with the  
varying needs of the learners has created new challenges for most  
Arabic programs. The situation has posed many pressing issues for  
teaching/learning Arabic at both K-12 and post-secondary levels:



1)   The demand for establishing new Arabic programs that meet the  
needs of the learners and the requirements of American education,  
especially at K-16 levels.

2)   The need for existing Arabic programs to define and deliver high- 
quality Arabic instruction, and to design new plans in order to adapt  
to changing demands and needs of new learners at both K-12 and post- 
secondary levels.

3)   The need for programs that provide Arabic teacher education in  
terms of preparation, training, and professional development.



It has become clear that the role of Arabic language teaching and  
learning and the demands for high quality language programs will not  
only be pressing issues for the next 10 years, but will continue to  
be important in subsequent decades as well. Thus, the need to explore  
key issues and create plans for future has become imperative.



Towards this end, we propose to convene at a one-day seminar to  
examine some central issues facing Arabic language teaching/learning  
and to explore recommendations for tackling these issues. This first  
seminar is meant to be a brainstorming session involving key figures  
in the field. It will be followed by a series of seminars/workshops  
that investigate these issues in greater detail. The main questions  
addressed in this seminar will be:



1)   What are the central concerns that must be addressed in terms of  
present Arabic language teaching demands?

2)   What can be done in response to these concerns?



The seminar will be for one day only. It will focus on K-12 and post- 
secondary including those at community college and university levels.  
Presenters are invited to participate in all sessions. While each  
presenter will present in only one session, participation in the  
other sessions is encouraged and appreciated.  The audience will be  
by invitation only.

Themes to be discussed are as follows:

1- Background Issues and Questions:

          a) K-12 Arabic language education in the U.S.: An

Overview

2- What Arabic to teach?

a) Is it ESA, MSA or Fu%Sha or what?

b) Hybrid Arabic



          3- Language Program Design K-16
a) The Arabic Learning Standards: Next Steps and

     Challenges

b) Flagship Program K-16 Goals: Problems & Issues Faced

     at Michigan State University



          4- Teacher Education/Training
a) Profile of K-12 Arabic language teachers’ Needs

b) Teacher education: University teachers’ Needs



Moderators

Kassem M. Wahba

Hana Zabarah



For contact for this seminar

Kassem Wahba
kmw43 at georgetown.edu
Hanaa Zabarah
Hana Zabarah
zabarahh at georgetown.edu
Sarah Monsell
sem73 at georgetown.edu
Dept. of Arabic and Islamic Studies
tel. 202-687-5743
fax. 202-687-2408
Box 571046
Intercultural Center 306
Washington, DC 20057








Seminar Program


8:30         Registration
8:45 Welcome: Ahmad Dallal Chair, Arabic and Islamic Studies

Session/Time
Topic
Speaker
First Session
Background Issues
Chair: Amin Bonnah
Georgetown University
9:00
K-12 Arabic language education in the U.S.: An Overview
Dora Johnson
Center of Applied Linguistics, Washington, D.C.

9:30                           Tea Break

Time
Topic
Speaker
Second Session
Goals and Choices: What Arabic to teach?
Chair: David Mehall University of Maryland: CASL, SAIC
9:45
Is it ESA, MSA or Fusha or What?
Karin Ryding
Georgetown University
10:15
Hybrid Arabic
Waheed Samy
University of Michigan
10:45
Discussion
David Wilmsen
Kassem Wahba
Georgetown University


12:00  Lunch Time

Time
Topic
Speaker
Third Session
Arabic Program Design K-16
Chair: Belkacem Baccouche
1:00
The Arabic Learning Standards: Next Steps and Challenges
Mahdi Alosh
Ohio State University formerly and West Point currently
1:30
Flagship Program K-16 Goals: Problems & Issues Faced at Michigan  
State University
Margo Glew
Michigan State University

2:00                            Tea Break


Time
Topic
Speaker
Fourth Session
Teacher Education/
Training
Chair: Zeina Azzam Seikaly
Georgetown University
Georgetown University
2:15
Profile of K-12 Arabic language teachers’ Needs
Mahmoud Al-Batal
University of Austin
2:45
Planning Ahead: Arabic Language Teacher Education - A Global  
Perspective"
Liz England
Shenandoah University, Winchester, VA
3:15
Discussion
Jerry Lampe
The National Foreign Language Center-University of Maryland
4:30
Conclusion and Recommendations
Kassem Wahba
Hana Zabarah
Gergana Atanassova





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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:11:11 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Electronic Dictionaries Response
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Date: 08 Aug 2006
From:Vrsan Lestaric <fursan at EUnet.yu>
Subject:Electronic Dictionaries Response

I don't know about a good electronic dictionary but I do own one  
which is not so good - ATLAS SD700, PC2000 (with a CD and a cable  
enabling you to transfer data you entered into your personal  
dictionary to the computer; works with Windows 98/2000/Me/XP;  
www.atlassite.com). I bought it a few years ago in Damascus for  
around 250$.

It isn't altogether useless, you can find a word (you may not) but  
you cannot be sure that the meaning is accurate. It often isn't, as  
I've found out soon enough when I compared the meanings to Wehr. It  
is also intended primarily for Arab students learning English.  
Contains additional information as - most common words in English,  
medical info, common knowledge, invention and inventors, Arabic male  
and female names etc. It also has an organizer. Sounds nice, but it  
simply isn't reliable. Conclusion, I don't recommend it.

But if there were an electronic edition of Hans Wehr... be it as a  
computer program and/or as a part of an electronic dictionary  
software, that would be awesome! To speak the truth, the need for an  
electronic Wehr (or some other reliable Arabic-English dictionary,  
but none is like Wehr) is huge and I'm surprised that I've never  
heard of it.

Vrsan Lestaric

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:11:05 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:more encoding problems
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Date: 08 Aug 2006
From:John Meredith <johnmeredith at comcast.net>
Subject:more encoding problems

I am using Internet Explorer to query for books on grammar written in  
arabic
in the Hollis catalog at Harvard.

I see the results with horizontal bars above letters for natural madd  
and
dots below for the heavy letters in transliteration.

However, when I send the results to my email address which uses MS  
Outlook
2000 on my computer, the characters with bars appear as question  
marks and
the characters with dots appear as boxes when I select the default  
setting
of UTF-8 in the Hollis email page .  When I select the only other  
option,
which is ISO 8859-1, the letters with dots appear correctly but the  
doubling
of the vowel indicated by the horizontal bar appears as a single  
vowel. Also
the ' to indicate ayn disappears.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug  8 15:11:09 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:11:09 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs sources on Druze dialect
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Date: 08 Aug 2006
From:"Terrence M. Potter" <tmp28 at georgetown.edu>
Subject:Needs sources on Druze dialect

Dear Sir

i am an MA student in jordan university of science and
technology in Jordan. i am writing my master thesis on
the manitenance of language and culture among the
Druze of jordan. i have searched the Web and the
available databases for an article or a study which
talks or describes the Druze dialect but unfortunately
i found nothing.
i am writing to you seeking help.  i would be very
greatiful if you kindly could provide me with
information about any study which dealt with the Druze
Arabic dialect or described it.

Best regards
Abdulaziz Alzoubi

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  9 19:05:22 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:22 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Date for Georgetown workshop
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2) Subject:Date for Georgetown workshop

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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:kassem wahba <kassem_wahba at yahoo.com>
Subject:Date for Georgetown workshop


Dear Dil,
Sorry for the mistake. It is Sep. 23rd-2006. It will
be at Georgetown. Arabic Department.ICC Buidling.
Intercultural Center 306
Washington, DC 20057. Room Number will be arranged.
Thanks again for your help
Best
Kassem Wahba

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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:Rebecca Hodges <beccahodges at hotmail.com>
Subject:Date for Georgetown workshop

I found this date on the georgetown website: Arabic Language Workshop  
and Seminar Series
September 23, 2006
http://www3.georgetown.edu/departments/arabic/news/
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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  9 19:05:17 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:17 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:query on grammar conceptualization (Arab vs.
 European)
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:"Uhlmann, Allon" <uhlmanna at umsl.edu>
Subject:query on grammar conceptualization (Arab vs. European)

Hi Everyone,

A couple of questions:

1.  Do you know of any references that systematically compare the way  
Arabic grammar has been conceptualised and taught in the Arab world,  
vs the  way it has been conceptualised and taught in Europe?

2.  In his intro to "A Grammar of the Arabic Language" Wright  
mentions Lumsden's 1813 work (A Grammar of the Arabic Language) as  
one of his major sources, but proceeds to write that it "is based on  
the system of the Arab Grammarians, and therefore but ill-adapted,  
apart from its bulk and rarity, for the use of beginners."  (pp v- 
vi).  I have superficially skimmed parts of Lumsden's 702-page volume  
on microfiche, and it appears that he raises some theoretical  
objections to concepts of comparative linguistics, but it did not  
strike me that the material is conceptualised in a radically  
different way from other European sources.  I will look further into  
it, but on the off-chance that somebody out there might know what  
Wright was referring to, I thought I would ask the list.

Thanks for your help.

Salamaat,
A.

Allon J. Uhlmann
Assistant Professor of Anthropology
University of Missouri - St. Louis
http://www.umsl.edu/~uhlmanna/

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:29 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs studies of early Arabic Acq as 2nd lang
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From: "Muhammad Eissa" <eissa at comcast.net>
Subject:Needs studies of early Arabic Acq as 2nd lang

Is there any study or studies dealing with learning and acquiring  
Arabic as
a foreign language in early ages (3 - 6)? Any information on the  
subject or
related issues will be highly appreciated.

	Salaam

Muhammad S. Eissa, Ph. D.
President, EISSA & ASSOCIATES, Inc.
Arabic and Islamic Consulting & Education
2020 Orrington Ave., Evanston, IL 60201
Ph. (847) 869-4775
Fax. (847) 869-4773
E.MAIL: eissa at comcast.net

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:25 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:On-line Arabic-Hebrew dictionary
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:Rahel Halabe <rahel at telus.net>
Subject:On-line Arabic-Hebrew dictionary

https://listserv.byu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?OK=F45BFE25&L=ARABIC-L
  The Ayalon Shin'ar Arabic-Hebrew dictionary is on line now

http://ayalosh.snunit.k12.il

With the time it will be updated as well.

Rahel

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  9 19:05:13 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:13 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Urdu font response
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From: "al-Husein N. Madhany" <anm at post.harvard.edu>
Subject:Urdu font response

Microsoft Office 2003 has available an Urdu language support web site
available here:
<http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/arabicdev/Urdu/urdu_support.asp>.
I highly recommend that anyone who uses South Asian language fonts
consult the University of Chicago's South Asian Language Resource
Center's (SALRC) best practices web site:
<http://salrc.uchicago.edu/resources/fonts/>.


By far, one of the better free, comprehensive, Unicode 4.0-compliant,
transliteration systems available is hosted at:
<http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/software/softwa.htm#Etabelle>.  The
TITUS Cyberbit Basic translation font is a product of an academic
digitization and standardization project.  It contains all the
characters necessary for transliterating the most common Arabic-script
languages including Arabic, Turkish, Persian, and Urdu.  The size and
shape of the font resembles Times New Roman, although the space
between the typed lines is larger.  Therefore a single-spaced page of
text composed in TITUS Cyberbit Basic looks like the spacing is
actually one and one-half (1.5) space.  Installation instructions are
available on the above link.  See the beauty of the Arabic-script font
in action here if you still doubt:
<http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/unicode/alphabet/arabtest.htm>.  For
more Unicode scripts that this font supports, see
<http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/unicode/unitest.htm#Etabelle>.


Installing the TITUS Cyberbit Basic (True Type) font is a simple
9-step process.  First, point your browser to:
<http://titus.fkidg1.uni-frankfurt.de/unicode/tituut.asp>.  Second,
fill in the form.  (If you're worried about privacy, aliases are
permitted.)  Third, select the option 'Self-extracting EXE file' and
then left click the 'Submit'-button.  Fourth, right click on the word
"here" in the sentence "Please download the font now by clicking
here."  You can save the file to your desktop by right clicking on the
word "here" and choosing Save Target As (in EI) or Save Link As… (in
Mozilla).  Fifth, point to your desktop.  After the download is
completed, double left click the file on your desktop to decompress
it.  Seventh, open your 'Fonts' folder (in the Control Panel).
Eighth, drag the TITUSCBZ.TTF font file from your desktop into the
Font folder by left-clicking on the TTF file and moving it into the
Font folder.  Ninth, drop the TTF file into the Font folder.  TITUS
Cyberbit Basic (True Type) has been successfully installed.


Best of luck,
al-Husein Madhany
University of Chicago

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:encoding problems response
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:"George N. Hallak, Boston" <GnhBos at aol.com>
Subject:encoding problems response

This may be strange, but, worth the try.
When you receive the email with the wrong symbols,
hit the reply button, then, look at the text, it may be
as correct as you sent it!

The squares and question marks (?) may mean that you
do not have the right font or language enabled, in some
cases!

Good Luck...

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak
AramediA
61 Adams Street
Braintree, MA 02184 USA

www.aramedia.com
www.arabicsoftware.net
www.aramediastore.com
T 1-781-849-0021 F 1-781-849-2922

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug 15 15:36:50 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:36:50 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Urdu font response
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Date: 15 Aug 2006
From:Urdu font response
Subject:Urdu font response

the place to start is:
http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/pickers/arabic-basic/
also
http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/pickers
anyway at the bottom of the picker page there are a couple of very  
contentful links to Urdu specific stuff if you hunt hard enough.
I arrived at this link w/ two clicks of the mouse:
http://www.travelphrases.info/gallery/Fonts_Urdu.html
The following link can be arrived at with only one click, but then  
you need to hunt for Urdu and/or Pakistan.  http://www.alanwood.net/ 
unicode/fonts.html#arabic
There are some very handsome Nastaleeq and Naskhi fonts that fully  
support Urdu in Unicode.
cheers,
Andy
andfreem at microsoft.com

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug 15 15:36:22 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:36:22 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Who has rights to Wehr?
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Date: 15 Aug 2006
From:"Erol Baykal" <erol at baykal.be>
Subject:Who has rights to Wehr?

Who holds the rights to Wehr/Cowan anyway? Wouldn't it be their job  
to publish a digital version of it? Or is it public domain?

Erol Baykal

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug 15 15:36:45 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:36:45 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Soqrotri Arabic folktale
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1) Subject:Soqrotri Arabic folktale

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Date: 15 Aug 2006
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:Soqrotri Arabic folktale

Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:30:51
From: Vladimir Agafonov < soqotra at pochta.ru >
Subject: Soqotri Arabic Language folktale text in PDF

Soqotri Modern Standard Arabic Language folktale text
in Qalansiya dialect published in California Linguistic Notes,
Vol. XXX, No 1  Spring, 2006

California Linguistic Notes just published in its
Vol. XXX , No 1  Spring, 2006  a Soqotran
folk tale BISMILLA recorded in the dialect of
Qalansiya - the second main town of the island
of Soqotra (Republic of Yemen). The publica-
tion consists of a phonemic transcription (similar
to classical D.-H. Mueller transcriptions) of the
Soqotri tale text as well as its word for word
and free literated translations into English.

The file is freely available in PDF format, at
http://hss.fullerton.edu/linguistics/cln/

For those interested in unwritten, Afrasian, Semitic,
South Arabian languages, traditional folklore,
world heritage issues.

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:36:32 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Persian or Farsi?
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1) Subject:Persian or Farsi?

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Date: 15 Aug 2006
From:BernhardtJE at state.gov
Subject:Persian or Farsi?

Colleagues,
	We are having a lively discussion on the use of the words 'Persian'
and 'Farsi' to name the language spoken in Iran.  The Ethnologue  
seems to
prefer 'Farsi' (http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=IR).   
Would
you agree with that?  If not, why not?
James E. Bernhardt
Chair, Near East, Central and South Asian Languages
FSI
703-302-7291

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 16 23:11:53 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:11:53 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Query about Soqotri text
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Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:Alex Bellem <alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk>
Subject:Query about Soqotri text

Greetings again,
Does anyone know if the sound file for this Soqotri text is also
available online?
Thanks,
Alex.

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:11:55 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Persian or Farsi responses
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1) Subject:Persian or Farsi response
2) Subject:Persian or Farsi response
3) Subject:Persian or Farsi response
4) Subject:Persian or Farsi response
5) Subject:Persian or Farsi response

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1)
Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:"Lampe, Gerald" <glampe at nflc.org>
Subject:Persian or Farsi response

The correct word in English is "Persian." "Farsi" is the Persian word
for Persian. This issue is somewhat complicated by the fact that some
folks in the government refer to "Persian Farsi," meaning the Persian
spoken in Iran as opposed to variants of Persian spoken in other
countries, Dari and Tajik.

Gerald E. Lampe, Ph.D.

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2)
Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:Alex Bellem <alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk>
Subject:Persian or Farsi response

Greetings.

It seems to me that it comes down to the political (non-)correctness of
generally nativising or Anglicising words, and which term is adopted
depends on how far one is happy to accept nativisation / Anglicisation
or not. So if we insist on 'Farsi' then shouldn't we insist also on
'TUrkCe' or 'Espagnol' or 'Hellenic', and so on? Since it is accepted in
linguistics as natural that non-native words are adapted to conform to
the phonology of the borrowing language (perhaps via an intermediate
'conveyor' language), can we object to 'Persian' on linguistic grounds?

So at the end of the day, I suppose that perhaps the context of use
should be the deciding factor. I tend to use 'Farsi' with colleagues and
speakers of ME languages, but I would probably use 'Persian' with people
outside that context. Hasn't anyone voted for Irani / Iranian yet?!

Best,
Alex.

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3)
Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:Franklin Lewis <flewis at uchicago.edu>
Subject:Persian or Farsi response
Persian is the conventional term in English, as in

most European languages (persidskoi, persisch,

perse, etc.), going back to the time of Herodotus, or

earlier. Ironically, both words derive ultimately from the

name of the southern province of Pars, where the

Achaemenids had their capital.  This of course became

"Fars" in the Arabic alphabet, for lack of the phoneme

"p."

      The term "Farsi"  began to creep into English in

the 1960s, mostly as a result of foreigners in Iran

hearing it from native-speakers who, presumably,

did not know English well enough to know that the

English name of their language had always been

Persian.  The media has accelerated and canonized

that process with the spread of the Iranian diaspora

around the English-speaking world, especially,

perhaps in North America.

      As there is no such thing as Farsi carpets, Farsi

literature, Farsi cats, Farsi food, etc., it seems rather

ridiculous to use this English neologism as

a general adjective for the language.  The Persian

language is spoken in Iran, Afghanistan and Tajikistan

as an official  language.  Though the native nomenclature

for it differs in many contexts (Tajiks often call their

language "Tojiki,"  Afghans often use "Dari", whereas

Iranians typically use "Farsi"), the language is one, just as

the various varieties of world English are varieties

of one English, and not primarily "Scottish," "Australian,"

"American" or Anglo-South Asian.  The most salient difference

between the varieties of Persian is that the Tajiks have,

since WWII, used the Cyrillic alphabet to write Persian (and

a decade or so before that, they had converted to the Latin

alphabet).

     Of course, with the advent of European imperialism and the

emergence of the distinct modern  national states of Afghanistan,

Iran and Tajikistan, each with their own separate school system

and political history (and often language academy), the literary

Persian language has perhaps become less homogenous than

it was before the 18th century all the way from the Balkans to

Bengal.  Nevertheless, recent years have seen important trends

in the opposite direction, such as news programs in Persian

prepared by and aimed at a multi-national Persian-speaking

audience (e.g., the Persian Services of the BBC and of

Radio France; this in stark contrast to US Persian services -

RFE/RL and VOA], which divide their broadcasts along the

three national varieties of Persian, and call them Dari. Tajik and

"Persian" - the latter recently adopted in place of its former name

"Farsi" at the request of listeners and the personnel of the radio

program).  Since independence from the Soviet Union, Tajikistan has

also  been discussing a return to the Arabic script, but to my knowledge

no serious attempt has yet been undertaken.

        Therefore, in certain technical contexts, where one wishes to

distinguish the varieties / dialects of Persian, one might reasonably

use "Farsi," "Tajiki," and "Dari" (though there are other valid ways to

divide the dialects of Persian, a conventional one being "Khorasani,"

which can include north eastern Iran, western Afghanistan and

Tajikistan, so that the division of the language into "national"

varieties is not necessarily the most linguistically satisfactory

categorization of Persian).  Outside of such a precise linguistic

context, however, "farsi" is quite an unnecessary (one might even

venture to say uneducated) usage, except where considerations

of nationalism or (in the case of Tajik Persian) script are

paramount.

    I believe the above more or less reflects the opinion of the great

majority of Persianists in academia (one finds no reputable grammars

of "Farsi," or histories of "Farsi" literature, or classes in "Farsi"

at major English-speaking universities).  The issue has been

discussed frequently on email lists, such as Adabiyat, and

variouis print fora.


yrs, Franklin Lewis



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4)
Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:Dan Parvaz <dparvaz at mac.com>
Subject:Persian or Farsi response

Po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to...

This is a tired terminological debate which serves no real purpose.  
Every now and then, someone with this particular bee in his (or her,  
but it usually seems to be some guy) bonnet decides to that because  
"Farsi" is simply Persian for "Persian", that logic dictates we use  
the English term. "We don't study 'Arabi' or 'Ivrit'," goes the  
litany, "so why do we use 'Farsi'?"

I know this is an Arabic list, but... logic, shmogic. It's a useful  
terminological distinction when discussing the differences between  
Persian as spoken in Iran (particularly the Tehran dialect), Persian  
as spoken in Afghanistan (especially Kabul), and Persian as spoken in  
Tajikistan. They're all "Persian", but the labels "Farsi,"  
"Dari" (another Persian word no one seems to object to), and "Tajiki"  
are succinct and accepted more or less everywhere to highlight the  
very real differences between the lects.

That said, using one term or the other is probably a useful  
shibboleth: it separates those with spare time on their hands from  
those who don't.

Cheers,

-Dan.

PS: Hasn't anyone brought up the whole Parsi/Farsi issue? It's just  
as vital.

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4)
Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:BearMeiser at aol.com
Subject:Persian or Farsi response

Qiyaasan, "Persian" is the correct name for the language in English.  
Just as we call the language spoken in France "French" and not  
"Francais," and the language spoken in Spain "Spanish" and not  
"Espanol," so we should call the language spoken in Iran by its  
English name when speaking English.

Samaa'an, however, it seems to be very common practice amongst  
Persian speakers in the United States to call their language "Farsi"  
when they are speaking English, and not "Persian." Thus, since this  
is a common usage, "Farsi" is also correct.

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:11:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Rights to Wehr
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Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:"George N. Hallak, Boston" <GnhBos at aol.com>
Subject:Rights to Wehr

Intellectual Property is, definitely, not a public domain. The  
publishers
of the Dictionary have the option to contract a digital dictionary  
maker,
and authorize a handheld. Or, a digital dictionary maker may buy
the rights from Wehr publishers, to digitize the dictionary and sell it
as a CD and/or a handheld. Some models may have sound too!

On Amazon, you may find:

Arabic-English Dictionary: The Hans Wehr Dictionary of Modern Written  
Arabic
by Hans Wehr (Paperback - May 1, 1993)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0879500034/sr=8-1/qid=1155659414/ 
ref=sr_1_1
/002-3687218-4833616?ie=UTF8

Dictionary of Modern Written Arabic (Hardcover)
by Hans Wehr (Editor), J. Milton Cowan (Editor)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0879500026/sr=8-2/qid=1155659414/ 
ref=sr_1_2
/002-3687218-4833616?ie=UTF8

If there is funding for such a project, it would be great. If a  
commercial
entity to do that, they would study the feasibility of making money
and not lose on their investment, for being a good citizen!

We do carry a long line of Electronic, Talking, Digital, Handheld
Dictionaries, some are good sellers, others are not. The good sellers
are updated, the other are discontinued. Many discontinued items,
sometimes, are great products, but, do not sell or warrant additional
production of newer models! www.aramedia.com/dictionaries.htm

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak
AramediA
www.aramedia.com
www.arabicsoftware.net
www.aramediastore.com
T 1-781-849-0021 F 1-781-849-2922

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 21 21:04:38 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:University of Virginian jobs
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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:sda9q at virginia.edu
Subject:University of Virginian jobs

The Department of Asian and Middle Eastern Languages and Cultures  
(AMELC) at the University of Virginia announces two lectureships in  
Arabic language beginning Fall Semester 2007. Initial probationary  
appointment is for one year, with the possibility for three-year  
renewals afterwards. We are looking for professional, skilled  
language instructors with competence in Modern Standard Arabic (MSA),  
Arabic grammar and a serious commitment to teaching language at  
elementary, intermediate and advanced levels. Applicants should have  
native, or near native fluency in MSA, one dialect and English. MA or  
higher in Arabic language study or literature, or an allied field is  
required. Preference will be given to candidates with successful  
teaching records. Responsibilities will include teaching 12 to 15  
hours per week and participating in the administration of the Arabic  
Program. Salary is commensurate with qualifications and teaching  
experience.

An application letter, current curriculum vitae, and three letters of  
reference can be sent electronically to the following address:  
arabicsearch at virginia.edu

Hard copies of the above testimonials should be sent to:

Chair
Arabic Search Committee
Asian & Middle Eastern Languages and Cultures
P. O. Box 400781
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22904-4781

Review of applications will begin October 6, 2006 and continue until  
the positions is filled.

The University of Virginia is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action  
Employer. Women and minorities are encouraged to apply.

If you have any questions regarding our search, please email us at  
arabicsearch at virginia.edu. In addition, if you have any questions,  
please call us at 434-982-2304/434-982-2665.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 21 21:04:35 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:35 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Trinity University job (Washington D.C.)
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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From: "Lampe, Gerald" <glampe at nflc.org>
Subject:Trinity University job (Washington D.C.)


Trinity University in Washington, D.C. invites applications for a  
part time instructor to teach Introductory Arabic beginning in the  
Fall semester of 2006. The position involves teaching one course per  
semester.  We are seeking a candidate with a minimum of a Masters  
Degree in Arabic.  The candidate selected for this position must be  
able to meet eligibility requirements to work in the United States at  
the time of employment.  To apply for this position, please submit a  
resume/curriculum vita to Dr. Anne Henderson, Dean of the College of  
Arts and Sciences, Trinity University: hendersona at trinitydc.edu

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 21 21:04:47 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:47 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:San'ani sound
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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:"Andrew Freeman" <andyf at u.washington.edu>
Subject:San'ani sound

Sound patches of authentic old city San'ani
	 I stumbled across this amazing
resource which can be found @
http://www.semarch.uni-hd.de/tondokumente.php4? 
LD_ID=5&RG_ID=25&ORT_ID=54 .

	Here you can find some of the sound patches found in Janet Watson's
book "Social Issues in Popular Yemeni Culture".  This book contains more
than 60 transcripts of the popular Yemeni radio show "Mus'id wa Mus'ida"
along with an equal number of very close and accurate translations of  
the
texts.
	This collection also contains some of the sound patches from
Watson's book "Wasf San'a: Texts in San'ani Arabic," pp. viii + 319,  
Otto
Harrassowitz: Wiesbaden.
	I think that anybody wanting to access the highlands lects of
Northern Yemen could find benefit from listening to these patches.

Andy Freeman
Software Design Engineer, Microsoft

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:University of Maryland Job
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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:elgibali at umd.edu
Subject:University of Maryland Job

Assistant Professor of Arabic

The School of Languages, Literatures, and Cultures (SLLC) at the  
University of Maryland, College Park, invites applications for an  
appointment in Arabic language and culture at the rank of Assistant  
Professor. This is a tenure-track position, with salary based on a  
nine-month contract. The successful candidate will join a rapidly  
expanding Arabic program within the School, with half of his or her  
teaching in the new Arabic Flagship program. Candidates should have a  
Ph.D., with a specialization in modern Arabic language and culture,  
and should demonstrate strong promise in research and teaching.  
Training in Arabic linguistics and language teaching experience are  
desirable additional strengths. Salary is competitive, based on  
qualifications and experience.

Applications: for best consideration, send a letter of application,  
curriculum vitae, and contact information for three referees by  
October 30, 2006 to: Ms. Anne Geary, Arabic Search Committee, School  
of Languages, Literatures, and Cultures, 1105 Jimenez Hall,  
University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742. Review of  
applications will begin October 15, and continue until the position  
is filled. The University of Maryland is an Equal Opportunity,  
Affirmative Action Employer. Minority candidates are strongly  
encouraged to apply.

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:45 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Why do electronic Wehr?
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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:Marc Van Mol <Mark.VanMol at ilt.kuleuven.be>
Subject:Why do electronic Wehr?

Hello,

I wonder why there should be an electronic version of the dictionary  
of Hans Wehr?  The dictionary of Hans Wehr is quite outdated.  I have  
been working on the compilation of Arabic dictionaries for Dutch for  
more than 20 years and I can assure everybody that the dictionary of  
Hans Wehr contains many obsolete words which are not used anymore.   
Moreover, there are many words (5%) from our database based on a  
modern corpus) which do not occur un the dictionary of Hans Wehr.   
Another problem is the fact that it is a translation from German,  
which means that it contains many uncertain meanings.  See for an  
evaluation my article in: Van Mol, Mark (2000) The development of a  
new learner's dictionary for 	Modern Standard Arabic, the corpus  
linguistic approach, In Proceedings of 	the Ninth EURALEX  
international Congress, Stuttgart, 8-12 august 2000, pp. 831-836.   
The dictionary of Wehr is also not conceived according to modern  
standards of lexicography, which are most clearly defined in, among  
others, the cobuild dictionaries of English.  The question is why the  
English speaking community doesn't start a common effort to make an  
up to date electronic dictionary according to modern principles in  
lexicography.  Technically speaking there is no problem because we  
have developed a bidirectional relational database for dictionaries  
on which our paper dictionaries are based.  Many elements in this  
database are reusable for other languages, which coule mean an  
important saving in time.

The problem is that for the compilation corpora will have to be  
translated in detail, which is a painstaking work demanding a great  
effort.  Many of the things we would like to know are not registered  
in Hans Wehrs' dictionary which is basically a word to word  
translation dictionary with almost no information on collocations,  
frequency etc.  For more details on the work we have done about  
Arabic lexicography and compputer technology, you can visit our website:

http://www.kuleuven.ac.be/ilt/arabic/index_en.htm

Greetings,

Mark Van Mol
Institute for Living Languages
Faculty of arts
Dekenstraat 6
B 3000 Leuven
Belgium

tel. + 32 16 32 56 83
fax. + 32 16 32 56 56
E-mail:  Mark.VanMol at ilt.kuleuven.ac.be

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 21 21:04:48 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Rights to Wehr
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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:Andrew Freeman <andyf at u.washington.edu>
Subject:Rights to Wehr

Howdy,
	I do believe that Otto Harrassowitz owns the rights to the Hans Wehr
dictionary.
andy

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 21 21:04:51 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Book
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1) Subject:New Book:Language, Religion and National Identity in  
Europe and the Middle East: Myhill

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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:New Book


Title: Language, Religion and National Identity in Europe and the Middle
East
Subtitle: A historical study
Series Title: Discourse Approaches to Politics, Society and Culture 21

Publication Year: 2006
Publisher: John Benjamins
	   http://www.benjamins.com/
	

Book URL: http://www.benjamins.com/cgi-bin/t_bookview.cgi? 
bookid=DAPSAC%2021


Author: John Myhill, University of Haifa

Hardback: ISBN: 902722711X Pages: 300 Price: U.S. $ 138.00
Hardback: ISBN: 902722711X Pages: 300 Price: Europe EURO 115.00


Abstract:

This book discusses the historical record of the idea that language is
associated with national identity, demonstrating that different
applications of this idea have consistently produced certain types of
results. Nationalist movements aimed at 'unification', based upon  
languages
which vary greatly at the spoken level, e.g. German, Italian, Pan- 
Turkish
and Arabic, have been associated with aggression, fascism and genocide,
while those based upon relatively homogeneous spoken languages, e.g.  
Czech,
Norwegian and Ukrainian, have resulted in national liberation and
international stability. It is also shown that religion can be more
important to national identity than language, but only for religious  
groups
which were understood in premodern times to be national rather than
universal or doctrinal, e.g. Jews, Armenians, Maronites, Serbs, Dutch  
and
English; this is demonstrated with discussions of the Holocaust, the
Armenian Genocide, the civil war in Lebanon and the breakup of  
Yugoslavia,
the United Netherlands and the United Kingdom.

Table of contents

Acknowledgements  vii
Introduction  1-26
Premodern national churches, Roman Europe, and the Caliphate  27-70
Small languages and national liberation  71-117
Big languages, delusions of grandeur, war, and fascism  119-176
Language, religion, and nationalism in Europe  177-227
Language, religion, and nationalism in the Middle East  229-276
Conclusion  277-281
Bibliography  283-293
Index  295-300


"It has always been clear that language is linked to nationalism and
nationalism to language. What John Myhill has done here is to show  
for the
first time that this easy equation ignores the linguistic facts. It  
may be
true that a "language is a dialect with an army and a navy." But it  
is not
just the army and the navy that matter. It also matters that some  
languages
are more obviously languages than others."  Peter Trudgill



Linguistic Field(s): Anthropological Linguistics
                      Sociolinguistics

Subject Language(s): Arabic, Standard (arb)
                      Armenian (hye)
                      Czech (ces)
                      Dutch (nld)
                      English (eng)
                      German, Standard (deu)
                      Italian (ita)
                      Norwegian, Nynorsk (nno)
                      Ukrainian (ukr)
                      Serbian (srp)


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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 23 16:15:18 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:18 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:More dictionary responses
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1) Subject:Dictionary response
2) Subject:Dictionary response

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:Jan Hoogland <j.hoogland at let.ru.nl>
Subject:More on new and old dictionaries

As a colleague (and competitor ;-) of Mark I can only agree with him.
Without having read all last week's messages about Wehr since I just
returned from my holiday, I can only agree with Mark on his critical
remarks about Wehr.
As an arabist who started studying Arabic in 1976, I grew up with Wehr,
so I certainly know what Wehr has meant for thousands of arabists from
all parts of the world, but we have to realize in what era Wehr has
compiled his (then) outstanding dictionary.

In addition to Mark's suggestion that the English speaking community
could undertake a common effort I would like to inform the whole Arabic
and English speaking community that the data of both Mark's dictionary
and mine are, on certain conditions of course, available for reusing for
scientific purposes and for (commercial) publishers.
I would be glad to supply additional information on this topic to
interested parties.

More information on the dictionary project, including sample pages, can
be found at the project website: www.let.ru.nl/wba

Furthermore I take the liberty of quoting my good friend and colleague
Tim Buckwalter who wrote on this list some months ago:
There are probably more recent works. Also, if you plan to identify
word-sense subdivisions, you will find the numbered senses in Jan
Hoogland's Arabic-Dutch dictionary quite useful. Hoogland's dictionary
is considerably more up to date than Wehr's lexicon--and it's corpus
based. (sorry for removing context - jh)

Jan

Jan (Abu Samir) Hoogland
Dept. of Arabic, University of Nijmegen
POB 9103, 6500 HD Nijmegen, the Netherlands
phone (0)24-3612641, residence: (0)24-3550199, mobile:(0)653652861
mobile in Morocco/GSM au Maroc: +-212-(0)79 146312
fax: (0)24-3500719
mail: j.hoogland at let.ru.nl
personal website: www.janhoogland.com
Arabic dictionary project website: www.let.ru.nl/wba
website Nederlands Instituut in Marokko: www.let.ru.nl/NIMAR

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2)
Date: 23 Aug 2006
From: "Erol Baykal" <erol at baykal.be>
Subject:More on new and old dictionaries

Dear professor Van Mol,

Wehr's English edition is practically the holy scripture of Arabic  
students, despite of it being a translated version!
While I do understand your concern about it being outdated - both in  
content and in "architecture" - I don't think this would mean that  
Wehr would be unsuitable for digitizing. During the digitizing  
project Wehr can be updated by adding new vocabulary and molding it  
into a modern architecture with techniques which you have proposed.

Wehr/Cowan can be used as a base for a very good Arabic/English/ 
Arabic electronic dictionary.

Greetings,

Baykal Erol

http://acon.baykal.be
http://www.baykal.be

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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:24 -0600
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1) Subject:San'ani sound thanks

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:"Waheed Samy" <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject:San'ani sound thanks

Thanks Andy, this site is great resource.
Waheed

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:21 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Cultural Linguist Sought for court case
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1) Subject:Cultural Linguist Sought for court case

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:ValerieSmi at aol.com
Subject:Cultural Linguist Sought for court case

 From an Arab American Attorney I know:

We have a trial now set to start in Federal Court in Miami, Florida.
The government intends to introduce the contents of several (about 200)
taped phone conversations between the defendants and each other.

The government is going to argue that the translations of the
conversations show that the defendants intended to engage in illegal
activity.  Our position is that the conversations contained a great deal
of hyperbole and language that is part of the Arabic culture.  We
believe that the statements cannot be meaningfully translated without
putting them in cultural context.

We are looking to retain someone who can listen to the conversations (in
Arabic) and put them in context.  The individual will need to start as
soon as possible.  The tapes and government translations can be made
available for use at the individual's place of work so that there will
be minimal travel required.  Testimony in court will probably be
necessary in December, 2006 and February, 2007.  Each Court appearance
will probably require one full day.  Prior forensic experience is a
plus, but is not required.

Interested parties should send their resume/cv to me at
wwswor at sworlaw.com.  The subject line should be "Cultural Linguist".

Thanks,

Bill Swor
3060 Penobscot Building
645 Griswold St.
Detroit, MI 48226
wwswor at juno.com
(313) 967-0200
(313) 961-4926 fax

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 23 16:15:14 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:14 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Early Arabic Acquisition as 2nd lang response
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1) Subject:Early Arabic Acquisition as 2nd lang response

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:"Abdul-rahman sharkawy" <sharqawy at hotmail.com>
Subject:Early Arabic Acquisition as 2nd lang response

Hi There
I think you can contact Dr. Mohammad Elsharkawy as his ph.d. was in a  
close period of study and his mail adress is mtarek2000 at hotmail.com
thank you

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 23 16:15:08 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:08 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Arabic NEMLAR resources
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1) Subject:Arabic NEMLAR resources

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:reposted form LINGUIST
Subject:Arabic NEMLAR resources

Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:27:56
From: Helene Mazo < mazo at elda.org >
Subject: NEMLAR Arabic Resouces in ELRA Catalogue - 08/06

ELRA - Language Resources Catalogue - Update

We are happy to announce the following Arabic resources, produced within
the NEMLAR project (www.nemlar.org). All 3 resources are owned and
copyrighted by the Nemlar Consortium. They are available in our  
catalogue.
To view all the Language Resources available, you can visit our on-line
catalogue: http://www.elra.info  or http://www.elda.org


ELRA-W0042 NEMLAR Written Corpus

This corpus consists of about 500,000 words of Arabic text from 13
different categories. The text is provided in 4 different versions:
- Raw text
- Fully vowelized text
- Text with Arabic lexical analysis
- Text with Arabic POS-tags

The database is distributed on 1 ISO 9660 CD-ROM volume.

For more information, see
http://catalog.elda.org:8080/product_info.php? 
products_id=873&osCsid=2eb47737dba8e4365c4972784a235948


ELRA-S0219 NEMLAR Broadcast News Speech Corpus

The data consists of about 40 hours and is provided by ELDA of Arabic  
data
(mainly Standard Arabic from a number of broadcast companies);
Transcriptions follow the Transcriber conventions as used by ELDA and  
focus
on the orthographic, named entities, speaker/turn segmentation  
levels. No
phonetic transcription/segmentation is planned.

The database is distributed in 1 ISO 9660 DVD-ROM volume.

For more information, see
http://catalog.elda.org:8080/product_info.php? 
products_id=874&osCsid=2eb47737dba8e4365c4972784a235948


ELRA-S0220 NEMLAR Speech Synthesis Corpus

The NEMLAR Speech Synthesis Corpus contains the recordings of 2 native
Egyptian speakers (male and female, 35 years old) recorded in a  
studio over
2 channel (voice + laryngograph). The data collection and transcription
were performed by RDI (Egypt).

Speech samples are stored in 96 kHz, 24 bit with the least  
significant byte
first ("lohi" or Intel format) as (signed) integers.

The speaker read 2,032 prompted sentences covering approx. 42,000  
words in
three categories: transcribed speech (20%), written text (50%), and
constructed phrases (30%).

The database is provided with orthographic, prosodic and phonetic
transcriptions in SAMPA.  All transcriptions were segmented at the
utterance (sentence/command word) level, annotated at the word level and
checked manually. A pronunciation lexicon including 3,589 headwords with
phonetics in SAMPA is also available.

The database is distributed on 3 ISO 9660 DVD-ROM volumes.

For more information, see
http://catalog.elda.org:8080/product_info.php? 
products_id=875&osCsid=2eb47737dba8e4365c4972784a235948


For more information on the catalogue, please contact Valérie Mapelli
mailto:mapelli at elda.org
Linguistic Field(s): Computational Linguistics
                      Lexicography
                      Phonetics
                      Text/Corpus Linguistics

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 23 16:15:10 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:10 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Library of Alexandria downloadable books
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1) Subject:Library of Alexandria downloadable books

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:wasamy at umich.edu
Subject:Library of Alexandria downloadable books

Here's something that might be of Interest.

The Library of Alexandria, http://www.bibalex.org/arabic/index.aspx,  
has a site, http://archive.bibalex.org/mybook/fp/, which provides  
electronic books in image format.

These books are downloadable for free.  The file format of the  
downloaded book is .DjVu.

Two sites, “FileExt”, http://filext.com/detaillist.php? 
extdetail=djvu, and “DjVuLibre”, http://djvulibre.djvuzone.org/, both  
provide information about this kind of file.

For Windows users, the site LizardTech, http://www.lizardtech.com/,  
provides a DjVu Browser Plug-in for Windows Internet Explorer.

I downloaded one of the books from the geographical section (Ibn  
Battuuta), and downloaded the Browser Plug-in from LizardTech.  The  
system works well.

Waheed

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 23 16:15:30 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:30 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Two Ohio State Jobs
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1) Subject:Ohio State Job: Arabic Language Program Director
2) Subject:Ohio State Job: Assistant Professor of Classical Arabic

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:moderator
Subject:Ohio State Job: Arabic Language Program Director

Arabic Language Program Director

The Ohio State University, Department of Near Eastern Languages and  
Cultures (NELC), invites applications for the Director of the Arabic  
Language Program, with expertise in Arabic language instruction,  
acquisition and teaching methodology. The position is open at any  
rank: assistant, associate, or full professor, but preference will be  
given to an experienced associate professor.  The successful  
applicant will be expected to train and supervise graduate students  
in teaching elementary and intermediate Arabic; prepare proficiency- 
based teaching and testing materials and teach at the undergraduate  
and graduate levels and to supervise doctoral candidates.  Candidates  
must be engaged in an active program of research and publication.   
Requirements include native or near native fluency in Modern Standard  
Arabic; PhD in hand by September 2007, when the position begins; and  
demonstrated potential for excellence in teaching and research.

Please send a letter of application detailing research and teaching  
interests, CV, research writing sample, and names and complete  
contact information for three referees to Professor Daniel Frank,  
Search Committee Chair, Dept. of NELC, The Ohio State University, 300  
Hagerty Hall, 1775 College Road, Columbus, OH  43210-1340.

Review of applications will begin November 1, 2006 (with a view to  
preliminary interviews at MESA).

The Ohio State University is an EEO/AA.  Women, minorities, veterans,  
and individuals with disabilities are encouraged to apply.

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:moderator
Subject:Ohio State Job: Assistant Professor of Classical Arabic

Assistant Professor of Arabic

The Ohio State University, Department of Near Eastern Languages and  
Cultures (NELC), invites applications for a tenure-eligible assistant  
professor of Arabic, specializing in the field of Classical Arabic.   
The successful applicant will be expected to teach Classical Arabic  
language and literature at the undergraduate and graduate levels and  
to supervise doctoral candidates.  Candidates must be engaged in an  
active program of research and publication.  Requirements include a  
complete command of pre-Islamic, Qur'anic, and Medieval Arabic, as  
well as native or near native fluency in Modern Standard Arabic; PhD  
in hand by September 2007, when the position begins; and demonstrated  
potential for excellence in teaching and research.

Please send a letter of application detailing research and teaching  
interests, CV, research writing sample, and names and complete  
contact information for three referees to Professor Daniel Frank,  
Search Committee Chair, Dept. of NELC, The Ohio State University, 300  
Hagerty Hall, 1775 College Road, Columbus, OH  43210-1340.

Review of applications will begin November 1, 2006 (with a view to  
preliminary interviews at MESA).

The Ohio State University is an EEO/AA.  Women, minorities, veterans,  
and individuals with disabilities are encouraged to apply.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Sat Aug 26 21:43:34 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:43:34 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:OPI training query
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Date: 26 Aug 2006
From:Martha Schulte-Nafeh <marthas at u.arizona.edu>
Subject:Arabic OPI training query

Is anyone aware of any Arabic OPI training planned in the near future?
I thought that there was a workshop in Nashville at this year's ACTFL  
conference but I just checked the website and there is no Arabic listed.
-- 
Peace, Martha

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:38:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Article
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1) Subject:New Article:A contrastive study of Arabic and English in  
the UAE

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Date: 26 Aug 2006
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:New Article:A contrastive study of Arabic and English in the UAE


Publisher:	Cambridge University Press
			http://us.cambridge.org 			
			
Journal Title:  English Today
Volume Number:  22
Issue Number:  2
Issue Date:  2006

Medical Rhetoric: A contrastive study of Arabic and English in the UAE
Call Me Madam, or The Lost Key Word
Suzanne Hinton

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Sat Aug 26 21:38:55 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:38:55 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Dictionaries discussion
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Date: 26 Aug 2006
From:Raven at em.uni-frankfurt.de
Subject:Dictionaries discussion

Indeed, I do not hesitate to confirm that the Hoogland dictionaries  
of Modern Standard Arabic are now the best in the world. But these  
dictionaries will never pay, since Dutch has only 21 millions of  
speakers. How could they be created, whereas there is no such thing  
in English?
One factor was a group of competent persons who were eager to do the  
job. Maybe it mattered too that Holland and Belgium are small, which  
facilitated contacts.
The other factor was heavy state subventioning. Is the Anglosaxon  
world to deeply sunk into capitalism to make such projects possible?  
Researchers do not dare to even think of ?unrewarding? long-time  
projects, and subventions for such a revolting thing as Arabic, ...  
God forbid.

As to Wehr, did it ever strike anyone that Wehr ordered his secretary  
to simply include all lemmas from a hundred years old German  
anthology of classical (yes, old!) Arabic texts into his first German  
edition? Only the most extravagant and specialist meanings were left  
out. I am referring to the Glossary of R. Brünnow & A. Fischer,  
Arabische Chrestomathie aus Prosaschriftstellern, many printings; now  
by Harrassowitz, Wiesbaden.

-- 
Dr. Wim Raven, Orientalisches Seminar, J.W. Goethe-Universitaet,  
Frankfurt, Germany.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Sat Aug 26 21:38:48 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:38:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LIST:message from Moderator
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Date: 26 Aug 2006
From:Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:message from Moderator

In the past when I have had to be out of the country for a few weeks,  
I put Arabic-L on vacation.  However, with the new server software  
that has been installed, I can now easily approve messages from any  
internet cafe in the world.  What I cannot do is format them in the  
style that you are used to seeing.

I will be out of the country for the next three weeks.  Since there  
often are important messages during the first part of September, I  
decided I would go ahead and forward them to the list using the new  
software.   This means that you will get them without the normal  
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The other option would be to simply hold them for three weeks and  
forward them when I get back.  We'll try it the other way this time  
and see how it goes.  If you have reactions one way or another, drop  
me a line about Sep 15th when I'll be back.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Sat Aug 26 21:38:52 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:38:52 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Gilman Scholarship Application Available
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Date: 26 Aug 2006
From:Gilman <Gilman at iie.org>
Subject:Gilman Scholarship Application Available

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 28 19:41:25 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:41:25 -0600
Subject: Two new Zakaria Tamer collections in Serbian
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.134125.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

from: "Srpko Lestaric" <srpkole at EUnet.yu>

Two more collections of Syrian author Zakaria Tamer are out in  
Serbian this summer (one in June, the other in July, both in my  
translation):

(1) Nojev poziv (nidaa' nuuH [Noah's Summons]), Narodna knjiga-Alpha,
Belgrade 2006, ISBN 86-331-2795-4, 276 pg's, 21cm;

(2) Svi na kolena (taksiir rukab [Breaking the Spirits]) Narodna  
knjiga-Alpha, Belgrade 2006, ISBN 86-331-2564-1, 167 pg's, 21cm].

Both can be found (altogether with the reviews) and ordered either at
http://www.narodnaknjiga.co.yu or at http://www.knjizara.co.yu .

Regards,
Srpko Lestaric


From msyfried at PLUTO.MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL  Sun Aug 27 13:39:43 2006
From: msyfried at PLUTO.MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL (Yohanan Friedmann)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:39:43 +0300
Subject: A Dictionary of Medieaval Judaeo-Arabic Texts
Message-ID: <SUN.27.AUG.2006.163943.0300.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>


 		The Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities

 		The Academy of the Hebrew Language



 		are pleased to announce the publication of



 		"A Dictionary of Mediaeval Judaeo-Arabic Texts"

 					by


 				Joshua Blau



 	Jewish culture in the Arabic-speaking lands reached one of  its 
pinnacles in the first third of the second millennium CE.  Cultured Jews spoke 
Arabic as well as Hebrew, and it was in Judaeo-Arabic  that members of the 
Jewish elite wrote some of their most sophisticated prose works.
Mediaeval Judaeo-Arabic texts are written in Middle Arabic,  which contains 
classical and later elements. The latter do not appear in standard dictionaries 
of Classical Arabic, and it is to these post-classical, neo-Arabic, and 
pseudo-correct  terms and expressions that Joshua Blau's Dictionary of 
Mediaeval Judaeo-Arabic Texts is  primarily devoted. Blau's work thus takes its 
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identical with Middle Arabic elements found in other Arabic writings of the 
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 	This first comprehensive dictionary of  Mediaeval Judaeo-Arabic 
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 	The Dictionary  is based largely on the works of leading Jewish 
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literature.  The numerous examples appear in the original language and in 
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 	Professor Joshua Blau is a leading authority  on Judaeo-Arabic studies. 
He  is Professor Emeritus of Arabic Language and Literature at the Hebrew 
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Humanities, and former  President of the Academy of the Hebrew Language.  His 
publications include "A Grammar of Christian Arabic" (Louvain 1966-1967); 
"Studies in Middle-Arabic and its Judaeo-Arabic Variety" (Jerusalem 1988); "The 
Emergence and Linguistic Background of Judaeo-Arabic" (Jerusalem 1999); and "A 
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From jmurg at TTLC.NET  Sat Aug 26 22:48:46 2006
From: jmurg at TTLC.NET (J Murgida)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:48:46 -0400
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Dictionaries discussion
In-Reply-To: <226A33EC-5AA4-4D4E-B5DA-8845B75799DC@byu.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.26.AUG.2006.184846.0400.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

My two cents' worth on Wehr is that I would never want to delete any archaic
lemma in an updated Arabic>English dictionary.  Just because something is
obsolete or seldom used doesn't mean you're never going to see it in modern
Arabic.  Also, because no dictionary can ever have every word anyone may
use, it really helps to have all the available meanings when one is scanning
up and down the entries of a root to try to figure out the meaning of a word
that's not in there yet.

Translators from Arabic into English do this kind of "dictionary detective
work" all the time.  I vote for keeping the old while compiling the new.
Speaking of which, didn't we have a query some months ago on what everyone
would want in a new Arabic>English dictionary?
 -- Jackie Murgida


From alex at BELLEM-HUSSEIN.DEMON.CO.UK  Mon Aug 28 11:27:44 2006
From: alex at BELLEM-HUSSEIN.DEMON.CO.UK (Alex Bellem)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:27:44 +0100
Subject: Electronic outline map of ME & N Africa
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.122744.0100.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Greetings,

I am looking for an outline map (with major towns and cities marked) of
the Middle East and North Africa - in electronic format. Does anyone
know where I could get hold of such a thing (e.g. websites with such a
map downloadable)? I have googled till my eyes goggled, and searched the
University of Texas library, but I can't find an *outline* map (I need
something that works in black and white). The reason I need to find such
a thing is to be able to map out some isoglosses (for some work on
Arabic dialect geography).

I'd be very grateful for any help with this!

Many thanks,
Alex Bellem.
-- 
Alex Bellem  
Dept of Linguistics
SOAS, University of London
alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk


From ibhims20002 at YAHOO.COM  Mon Aug 28 08:02:55 2006
From: ibhims20002 at YAHOO.COM (Dr Ibrahim Suliman Ahmed)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:02:55 -0700
Subject: Two Arabic Books ( Learning Arabic Via the Web Sites  & Arabic
 for medicale Students)
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.010255.0700.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Dear all greeting,
   
  I have published two books by research center, International Islamic University Malaysia. My two books namely are:
  1- Learning Arabic via the Web Sites (In Arabic Language)
  2- Arabic for Medical Students (In Arabic Language)
   Learning Arabic Via the Web Sites book   discussed many issues  (e.g. Computer in Education, History of CALL, Internet in Education, The Theoretical framework of Computer / Internet in Education, The role of the Arabic Language Teacher, Factors affecting the integration of Arabic Language Software into Arabic Language Class, How to integrate Arabic Language Software into Arabic Language Class, Development of an analysis criteria of Arabic Language Sites, The author evaluated and analysis Twenty Fifth (25) Arabic Language Websites ( Programmers ) via the Web sites. The Book ended with abstract Conclusion and Suggestions
   
  - Arabic for Medical Students book has many lessons related to Medicine (e.g. Human organs, the diseases In the Doctor’s clinic, The Computer, Physiology, and many issues related to medicine as well as Arabic culture and many other different topics. 
  Those who interested may contact me
   
  Thank You in anticipation
   
   
     
   



Dr. Ibrahim Suliman Ahmed Ph.D ( Curriculum & Methods of Teaching Arabic Language) 
Center for Languages at 
Faculty of Medicine- International Islamic University-Malaysia 
25710 Jalan Hospital 
P.O.Box 141- Kuantan-Pahang- Malaysia 
Tel: 609- 513 2797 ext 3321(office)- 609- 5680597 (Home)-H/P-+60-017-9745499 
Fax: 609- 513 3615 
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  http://eyoon.com/sites/19516.html 
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From raven at EM.UNI-FRANKFURT.DE  Mon Aug 28 13:16:26 2006
From: raven at EM.UNI-FRANKFURT.DE (Wim Raven)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:16:26 +0200
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Dictionaries discussion
In-Reply-To: <226A33EC-5AA4-4D4E-B5DA-8845B75799DC@byu.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.151626.0200.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Since some subscribers encouraged me privately to clarify my accusation 
that Wehr in his Arabic-German/English dictionary dealt with ancient 
words from an unmentioned source, I will do so.

In my classes of classical (old!) Arabic texts, I use Rudolph Ernst 
Br�nnow & August Fischer, Arabische Chrestomathie aus 
Prosaschriftstellern, 3d. ed. Leipzig 1924, 7th ed. Wiesbaden 1988. 
This book has an Arabic-German glossary, which is useful for the 
students, since there is no reliable Classical Arabic-German 
dictionary. When the glossary is not satisfying, or the German words 
are simply outdated, we look into the German edition of Wehr as well. 
And there I have been struck at many occasions by the verbatim 
similarity of the renderings. But Wehr does not mention Br�nnow-Fischer 
among his �secondary sources�. Had he done so, it would not have looked 
good, since Br�nnow-Fischer contains only age-old texts.

Of course, akala means �to eat�, in all dictionaries. But when the 
rendering is a bit longer, the similarities are obvious.
Some examples:

- tah.annatha means according to Br�nnow-Fischer's Glossar: 
Ents�ndigung, religi�se L�uterung suchen.
- In the German Wehr, 5th edition, I read: Frommigkeit �ben; 
Ents�ndigung, religi�se L�uterung suchen; der S�nde widerstehen, der 
S�nde nicht nachgeben.
- In Wehr/Cowan, 3d ed., this was translated into English: to practice 
piety, perform works of devotion; to seek religious purification; to 
scorn sin, not yield to sin.
Now this word goes back to only ONE old prose text from the 8th 
century. Its meaning was unclear already in the 9th century and it is 
until now. (About tah.annatha see M. Kister, �Al-tah.annuth: an enquiry 
into the meaning of a term,� BSOAS 31 (1968), p. 223-236.)
Br�nnow-Fischer ventured a meaning; Wehr took it over and �knew� even 
more.
Apart from not mentioning his source in his introduction, Wehr made two 
more mistakes here: 1) fantasizing     2) making us believe, this 
obscure word is �modern written Arabic� and frequent enough to deserve 
a place in a dictionary.


A far more frequent, but equally obscure word:
- h.an�f means according to Br�nnow-Fischer's Glossar: jmd. der statt 
e. ihn umgebenden falschen d. wahre Religion bekennt.
- German Wehr, 5th edition: Rechtgl�ubiger; e-r der statt der ihn 
umgebenden falschen die wahre Religion bekennt, etc.
- Wehr/Cowan, 3d ed.: true believer, orthodox; one who scorns the false 
creeds surrounding him and professes the true religion, etc.
This word is from the Koran. It should be in Wehr, all right, since it 
is quoted in many modern texts. It is obvious that Wehr copied B/F's 
loquacious and rather �theologizing� circumscription of the meaning 
almost verbatim. The meaning: true believer, orthodox cannot be used 
outside a koranic context. No modern Arab would call himself or a 
fellow Arab h.an�f when he means true believer.


Another interesting case is found under the root �srr :
- Br�nnow-Fischer: V tasarr� (neben tasarrara) c. bi  mul.: zur 
Beischl�ferin (surriyya) nehmen.
- German Wehr: V tasarr� (neben tasarrara) (bi od. h� eine Frau) zur 
Konkubine (surriyya) nehmen, als Geliebte haben.
Wehr/Cowan: V tasarr� (and tasarrara) to take (bi or h� a woman) as 
concubine (surriyya).
In the German Wehr, only the word Beischl�ferin was replaced by the 
somewhat chaster and/or modern word Konkubine. Both works enter this 
lemma under the root �srr instead of �sry, although they apparently 
consider �sry primary. (In ancient dictionaries, it does occur under 
both roots.)

Etcetera. Please, give us new dictionaries!

Wim Raven
-------------------------------------------------------

Dr. Wim Raven
Orientalisches Seminar
J.W. Goethe-Universit�t
Senkenberganlage 31
60325 Frankfurt, Germany


From dil at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 28 23:00:34 2006
From: dil at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:00:34 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Messages
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.170034.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

I sent the first batch of messages out the new way just now.  What I  
found out is that the messages are not labeled as Arabic-L messages  
in the subject at all, and the sender is listed as the person who  
originally sent the message.  If you want to know for sure that it is  
an Arabic-L message, you would need to look on the 'To:' line of the  
header, where it should say: ARABIC-L at listerv.byu.edu.

Again, this will change back to normal after Sep. 15.  Sorry for the  
inconvenience.

Dil


From dil at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug 29 01:52:21 2006
From: dil at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:52:21 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Message Headers
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.195221.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Could I suggest that people sending messages to Arabic-L in the next  
3 weeks include the word Arabic_L in the subject line so that people  
can know at a glance that it is an Arabic-L message?  Thanks.
dil


From fawm at UCHICAGO.EDU  Mon Aug 28 22:32:48 2006
From: fawm at UCHICAGO.EDU (fawm at UCHICAGO.EDU)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:32:48 -0500
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Dictionaries discussion
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.173248.0500.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

WQhatever happened to our policy of not having attachments?
Farouk


From alex at BELLEM-HUSSEIN.DEMON.CO.UK  Tue Aug 29 15:03:21 2006
From: alex at BELLEM-HUSSEIN.DEMON.CO.UK (Alex Bellem)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:03:21 +0100
Subject: Arabic-L: Electronic outline map of ME & N Africa
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20060829034545.033447a0@postoffice9.mail.cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.29.AUG.2006.160321.0100.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Greetings again,

I just wanted to thank you all for the several speedy responses I've had
- looks like I'm not the only map-needer. The resource mentioned by
Nimat Barazangi is great. It needs a Java-enabled machine (so I haven't
tried it yet), but this mapping tool means that we can create our own
maps, which is extremely useful for dialect geographies (and may even
turn some of us into amateur cartographers!).

Best,
A.


In message <6.2.1.2.2.20060829034545.033447a0 at postoffice9.mail.cornell.e
du>, Nimat Hafez Barazangi <nhb2 at cornell.edu> writes
>    Check 
>     
>    http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/       go to  
>    http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/projects.html
>     
>    and/ or
>
>    http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/webmap/
>
>    Best wishes,
>    Nimat
>
>
>
>
>
>    At 07:27 AM 8/28/2006, Alex Bellem wrote:
>>       Greetings,
>
>>       I am looking for an outline map (with major towns and cities 
>>       marked) of the Middle East and North Africa - in electronic
format. Does anyone
>>       know where I could get hold of such a thing (e.g. websites with 
>>       such a
>>       map downloadable)? I have googled till my eyes goggled, and 
>>       searched the
>>       University of Texas library, but I can't find an *outline* map 
>>       (I need
>>       something that works in black and white). The reason I need to 
>>       find such
>>       a thing is to be able to map out some isoglosses (for some work 
>>       on
>>       Arabic dialect geography).
>
>>       I'd be very grateful for any help with this!
>
>>       Many thanks,
>>       Alex Bellem.
>

-- 
Alex Bellem  
Dept of Linguistics
SOAS, University of London
alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk


From glampe at NFLC.ORG  Tue Aug 29 14:25:46 2006
From: glampe at NFLC.ORG (Lampe, Gerald)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:25:46 -0400
Subject: Arabic-L: Electronic outline map of ME & N Africa
Message-ID: <TUE.29.AUG.2006.102546.0400.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Alex Bellem may want to check out www.mapresources.com
<http://www.mapresources.com/>  for a map of the Middle East and North
Africa in outline format. He or a graphic designer can modify it to suit
his needs. 

 

Jerry Lampe

National Foreign Language Center

 

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From Talaat.Pasha at UTAH.EDU  Tue Aug 29 21:12:47 2006
From: Talaat.Pasha at UTAH.EDU (Talaat Pasha)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:12:47 -0600
Subject: help: teaching reading in Arabic_ Arabic -L
Message-ID: <TUE.29.AUG.2006.151247.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

 

Salamaat all,

I wonder if anyone has taught intermediate/ advanced course in reading in Arabic. I would appreciate any suggestions/ idea of the material, textbooks, if any etc. I would like to introduce the students to various genres of written Arabic: classical, modern, short stories, media, literature etc. 

Any ideas are very welcome,

 

Talaat


From nhb2 at CORNELL.EDU  Tue Aug 29 07:58:18 2006
From: nhb2 at CORNELL.EDU (Nimat Hafez Barazangi)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:58:18 -0400
Subject: Electronic outline map of ME & N Africa
In-Reply-To: <++25B1AwMt8EFwf2@bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.29.AUG.2006.035818.0400.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Check

http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/       go 
to  http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/projects.html

and/ or

http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/webmap/

Best wishes,
Nimat





At 07:27 AM 8/28/2006, Alex Bellem wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I am looking for an outline map (with major towns and cities marked) of
>the Middle East and North Africa - in electronic format. Does anyone
>know where I could get hold of such a thing (e.g. websites with such a
>map downloadable)? I have googled till my eyes goggled, and searched the
>University of Texas library, but I can't find an *outline* map (I need
>something that works in black and white). The reason I need to find such
>a thing is to be able to map out some isoglosses (for some work on
>Arabic dialect geography).
>
>I'd be very grateful for any help with this!
>
>Many thanks,
>Alex Bellem.
>--
>Alex Bellem
>Dept of Linguistics
>SOAS, University of London
>alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk

Nimat Hafez Barazangi (Dr.)
Research Fellow
Feminist, Gender, and Sexuality Studies
391 Uris Hall
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853, USA

(607) 257-4199
http://www.upf.com/book.asp?id=BARAZF04  
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From dil at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 30 21:44:44 2006
From: dil at BYU.EDU (Dilworth B Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:44:44 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Attachments
Message-ID: <WED.30.AUG.2006.154444.0600.>

With the system I am using for the next two weeks I cant tell if there are attachments.  Sorry if some got through.
dil


From weninger at STAFF.UNI-MARBURG.DE  Thu Aug 31 11:49:52 2006
From: weninger at STAFF.UNI-MARBURG.DE (=?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_Weninger?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:49:52 -0600
Subject: Professorships at Marburg
Message-ID: <THU.31.AUG.2006.054952.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Dear Listmembers,

I would like to draw your attention to the following job advertisment: For
the foundation of its Centre for Near and Middle Eastern Studies (CNMS)
Philipps-Universität Marburg (Germany) invites applications for the
following positions to be appointed for the summer term 2007:

Professor for Economics of the Near and Middle East
Professor for Politics of the Near and Middle East
Professor for Arabic Studies
Professor for Iranian Studies

Please cf. the details on the following web-site:
http://www.uni-marburg.de/cnms/aktuelles/ausschreibung

Applications must be received by 29 September 2006.

Sincerely,
Stefan Weninger


From maabdelw at PURDUE.EDU  Thu Aug 31 00:31:29 2006
From: maabdelw at PURDUE.EDU (maabdelw at PURDUE.EDU)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:31:29 -0400
Subject: help: teaching reading in Arabic_ Arabic -L
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Hi Talaat
    Try  Fi Tallum al arabiyyah, but since  this textbook has some 
shortcomings, you may need to get the stuff you wanted from the internet and 
edit it in such away that fits the level of your students

       try Juha'a anecdotes in the internet. they are lively and appealing to 
students.  I write to my students what i remember from my elementary school
 The two rooster   the peasant and the land, the burried treasure. I;m  afraid 
these short stories are not available on the internet, Since students love 
funny yet instructive stuff, it might be a good idea to try 

   Good luck M wali
Quoting Talaat Pasha <Talaat.Pasha at UTAH.EDU>:

>  
> 
> Salamaat all,
> 
> I wonder if anyone has taught intermediate/ advanced course in reading in
> Arabic. I would appreciate any suggestions/ idea of the material, textbooks,
> if any etc. I would like to introduce the students to various genres of
> written Arabic: classical, modern, short stories, media, literature etc. 
> 
> Any ideas are very welcome,
> 
>  
> 
> Talaat
> 
> 


From saharmhy at AUCEGYPT.EDU  Thu Aug 31 08:09:01 2006
From: saharmhy at AUCEGYPT.EDU (saharmhy)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:09:01 +0000
Subject: help: teaching reading in Arabic_ Arabic -L
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Good Morning,

There are two text books which you can teach for Intermediate/Advanced MSA there is El Kitaab El Assassy Dr. El Said Badawy Part 2 and 3, also there is El Kitaab fi Taluum El Laghaee el Arabia Mahmoud El Batal & etal Part 2 and 3, also you can use newspapers, short stories by Youssef Idris, El Tayeb Saleh and also Arabic magazines.  These materials work very well in class also giving students texts to translate help them to enrich their vocabulary.

Salaam
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> 
> 
> Salamaat all,
> 
> I wonder if anyone has taught intermediate/ advanced course in reading in Arabic. I would appreciate any suggestions/ idea of the material, textbooks, if any etc. I would like to introduce the students to various genres of written Arabic: classical, modern, short stories, media, literature etc. 
> 
> Any ideas are very welcome,
> 
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From emailghassan at YAHOO.COM  Thu Aug 31 00:37:18 2006
From: emailghassan at YAHOO.COM (Ghassan Husseinali)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:37:18 -0700
Subject: help: teaching reading in Arabic_ Arabic -L
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Salaam Talaat,
   
  Check out a new book compiled by Bassm Frengieh published by Yale Press . The name of the book is "Anthology o f Arabic Literature, Culture, and Thought form Pre-Islamic Times to Present". It has 70 readings of many genres such as political speaches, Hadiths, Poetry, Literary Criticism, Biographies, etc spanning from Pre-Islamic period till present.
   
  Ghassan 

Talaat Pasha <Talaat.Pasha at UTAH.EDU> wrote:
  

Salamaat all,

I wonder if anyone has taught intermediate/ advanced course in reading in Arabic. I would appreciate any suggestions/ idea of the material, textbooks, if any etc. I would like to introduce the students to various genres of written Arabic: classical, modern, short stories, media, literature etc. 

Any ideas are very welcome,



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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 16:02:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:New Listserv software
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:moderator
Subject:New Listserv software

Arabic-L has been migrated to new listserv software.  While in the  
end this will be a boon, it currently is causing some adjustment  
problems, so it may be a few days before I am able to get the  
messages you have sent out.  When everything is working, you will be  
able to examine your account on the web, change your mail receiving  
options (to digest or back) or you can have it hold your mail for you  
until you get back from vacation, and then send it all at once, etc.   
You can also choose to have other members of the list have access to  
your e-mail address or not.  It will also allow you to change to  
another e-mail address right on the web.  It is now set to NOT  
receive attachments, so if you send a message with attachments, even  
those little blurbs with your personal info, the message will  
probably bounce back to you without ever coming to me.  So you will  
need to figure out a way to send your message without attachments.   
More details later.
Dil

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug  1 18:35:41 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:35:41 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:ALS 2007 Call for Papers
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:ALS 21 Call for Papers

Call for Papers
The Arabic Linguistics Society and

Brigham Young University

announce the

Twenty-first Annual Symposium on Arabic Linguistics
to be held at the

Brigham Young University

Provo, Utah

March 2-3, 2007
Papers are invited on topics that deal with theoretic and applied  
issues of Arabic Linguistics. Research in the following areas of  
Arabic linguistics is encouraged: grammatical analysis (phonology,  
morphology, syntax, semantics), applied linguistics,  
sociolinguistics, psycholinguistics, discourse analysis, historical  
linguistics, corpus linguistics, computational linguistics, etc.

Persons interested in presenting papers are requested to submit a one- 
page abstract giving the title of the paper, a brief statement of the  
topic, and a summary clearly stating how the topic will be developed  
(the reasoning, data, or experimental results to be presented).  
Authors are requested to be as specific as possible in describing  
their topics.  Print your name, affiliation and return e-mail address  
at the top of the e-mail.  It will be removed before being forwarded  
to the review committee.  Abstracts should be submitted by e-mail to  
Tessa Hauglid at tessa at sfcn.org

2007 ALS membership dues of $25 and conference fees of $50 (total  
$75) are to be submitted with all abstracts and must be received by  
the abstract deadline. Special financial arrangements will be made  
for local students and scholars.  Membership dues are non-refundable;  
conference fees are refundable, if requested, only to those whose  
papers are not accepted.

Deadline for Receipt of Abstracts: November 15, 2006

Abstracts questions to:
Tessa Hauglid
E-Mail: tessa at sfcn.org

PLEASE NOTE:  This will be a non-smoking conference, since smoking is  
forbidden not only in the building in which the sessions will be  
held, but on the surrounding campus.  Also note that while coffee and  
tea are available in the hotels off campus, they are not available on  
campus, and will not be provided during the sessions.  If this is  
going to be a problem, you should probably not apply for this years  
conference.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:26:51 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:26:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:responses to ALS 2007 Call
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1) Subject:response to ALS 2007 Call
2) Subject:response to ALS 2007 Call

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1)
Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:?? (moderator)
Subject:coffee in thermos OK

I got a message (which I somehow managed to lose, and I can't  
remember who it was from) asking if it would be OK to bring coffee in  
a thermos to the ALS sessions.  Since BYU does not have a policy  
excluding that, it should be OK.  Try to be as surreptitious as  
possible.  It will make it more amusing.
Dil

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:urih at babel.ling.upenn.edu
Subject:gays and lesbians welcome

I wonder what impact Brigham Young University's discrimanatory policy  
on lesbians and gays might have on the hospitality of lesbian and gay  
members of ALS.

As an example, allow me to quote from the University's Honor Code:

"Advocacy of a homosexual lifestyle (whether implied or explicit) or  
any behaviors that indicate homosexual conduct, including those not  
sexual in nature, are inappropriate and violate the Honor Code.
Violations of the Honor Code may result in actions up to and  
including separation from the University."

(http://honorcode.byu.edu/ 
Honor_Code__Live_a_Chaste_and_Virtuous_Life.htm)

Uri Horesh
University of Pennsylvania & Georgetown University

[Dil answers: BYU will not do background checks on any of the  
conference attendees, so it shouldn't be an issue.  If you intend to  
participate in a demonstration or hold a placard as you walk across  
campus, I think you will find yourself not welcome.  How welcome you  
feel otherwise would probably depend on how comfortable you are in  
general in a fairly conservative religious university environment.]

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:26:53 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:26:53 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:University of Exeter Job
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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:Paul Auchterlonie <J.P.C.Auchterlonie at exeter.ac.uk>
Subject:University of Exeter Job

Sharjah Chair of Islamic Studies, Institute of Arab & Islamic
Studies, School of Humanities and Social Sciences, University of
Exeter, U.K. - Ref. 9173.

Applications are invited for the Sharjah Chair of Islamic Studies,
tenable from a start date between October 2006 and September 2007.

The appointee will be expected to have a research and publication
record of the highest international standing in the broad field of
Arabic and/or Islamic studies.  In teaching and research supervision
the appointee will similarly be expected to have shown academic
leadership in promoting the subject area.  The ability to demonstrate
administrative leadership will be an advantage.

Fields of interest may include any concentration or combination of
Arabic and/or Islamic studies.  An illustrative, but not exclusive,
list of research/teaching domains of interest will be: Islamic history
and civilisation, Islamic theology and philosophy, Sufism and
contemporary Islamic studies, Arab/Islamic intellectual history, the
sociology and anthropology of Islam, classical Arabic literature and
literary criticism, Arabic grammar and linguistics and translation
studies.

Salary will be by negotiation.  Interviews will be held on 11 October
2006 or soon thereafter.  For an informal discussion of the post,
please contact Professor Rasheed El-Enany at r.el-enany at exeter.ac.uk
or +44 (0)1392 26 40 27.  Application packs for this post are
available from www.exeter.ac.uk/jobs; e-mail M.A.Wills at exeter.ac.uk ;
or telephone (01392) 263120, quoting reference number 9173.  The
closing date for completed applications is 11 September 2006.
----------------------

Posted by Paul Auchterlonie, Librarian for Middle East
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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:26:58 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:26:58 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs responses to question formats
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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:melsayess at socal.rr.com
Subject:Needs responses to question formats

Arabic question formats:

ALI system on the internet needs to handle different types of  
question formats. We need your help to make sure our system can meet  
your expectations. We would appreciate your help in reviewing the  
below different question formats and any feedback, concern, or  
critique would be appreciated.


Please, download these two word documents.

http://www.readverse.com/ALI_test_cases.zip

Thank you.
Mahmoud Elsayess
www.readverse.c

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From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:08 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Al-Dhad Center opens in Cairo
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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:Iman Soliman <halleluiah3 at yahoo.com>
Subject:Al-Dhad Center opens in Cairo

Dear All
It is our great pleasure to announce the opening of Al-Dhad Arabic  
language training and resource center in Cairo. The center offers  
educational and training services to Arabic language students ,  
teachers,  researchers and educational bodies.
Please check our website: www.al-dhadarabic.com
In case of any queries regarding Al-Dhad please email us at info at al- 
dhadarabic.com
Best
Iman A. Soliman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:27:06 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:06 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:SAIS reader response
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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:IBCBOOKS.COM <ibc at ibcbooks.com>
Subject:SAIS reader response

> Does anyone know where I can locate an answer key for
> the SAIS Arabic Reader in International Affairs or
> other supporting materials?

This is in answer to summer Loomis request for materials for the SAIS  
Arabic
Reader
Our company has purchase the last of these Reader. Price of the  
Readrs in
International Affairs in Advanced
Arabic is $45.00. There is no CD's Available however. Please find  
further
information on our
website at: www.ibcbooks.com    Claudette

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:27:02 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:02 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:address correction for Arab Academy
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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:sanaa at arabacademy.com
Subject:address correction for Arab Academy

Just wanted to correct the web address of the Arab Academy.  It is:   
http://www.arabacademy.com/ not http://www.arabicacademy.com/.  We  
are the Arab Academy not the Arabic Academy.
Best regards,
Sanaa Ghanem,
(http://www.arabacademy.com/ghanem)
President, Arab Academy,
3 Alif Kamil El-Shinnawi Street (Formerly: Al-Nabataat Street),
Garden City 14511, Cairo, Egypt
E-mail: info at arabacademy.com
Web Inquiries: http://www.arabacademy.com/contact_e.htm
Web Site: http://www.arabacademy.com
Tel.: +2 012 218 0305
Fax: +202 589 1499

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:27:04 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:04 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:'r' pronunciation
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2) Subject:'r' pronunciation

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:dstewar at learnlink.emory.edu
Subject:'r' pronunciation

The pronunciation of r in Fez, Morocco that several contributors have  
noted--it
is also found in the old, urban dialects of several cities in the  
North of
Morocco, like Tangiers, Tetouan--is not a speech defect, but neither  
is it a
-w- as has been implied.  It sounds nearly like the American English - 
r-.

The other cases, found throughout the Arab world, usually involve the
pronunciation of -r- as gh, less commonly as -w- -y- or -l- as has  
been noted.
Similar phenomena occur in all languages with trilled r's, like  
italian and
Spanish.  A certain portion of the population is physically unable to  
produce
the trilled -r-; I don't agree with the contributor who suggested  
that this can
be fixed by a speech pathologist.  the classical term for it is  
althagh [fi
'r-ra']; this becomes aldagh, fem. ladgha in Egyptian and perhaps other
dialects.  It is actually the default meaning, I believe, of aldagh-- 
that is,
if one does not specify the letter affected by being aldagh, the  
assumption is
that it is ra', and not sin.  The most famous althagh in history was  
of course
Wasil b. `Ata', the eighth-century founder of the Mu`tazili school  
theology,
who was famously asked to repeat the statement: amara amiiru l- 
umaraa' bi-Hafri
bi'rin fi S-SaHraa' yashrabu minha l-waaridu wa'S-Saadir, which he  
did, but
paraphrasing it so as to avoid any word with the letter -r-.   Many  
people know
this phrase from highschool in the Arab world, but don't knoow that  
it is
attributed to WaaSil.

Best wishes,

Devin Stewart, Winship Distinguished Research Professor of Arabic and  
Islamic
Studies
Department of Middle Eastern and South Asian Studies
Emory University
Atlanta, GA 30322
(404) 727-4625 ; fax (404) 727-2133

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:Alex Bellem <alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk>
Subject:'r' pronunciation

Although vocalised or velarised 'r' is noted as a 'speech peculiarity'
(i.e. ideolectal feature), 'luthgha', it is a characteristic sound
change of Jewish and Christian Baghdadi, as well as apparently in Mosul
and Tikrit (until the 1960s at least) - cf. Blanc's 1964 'Communal
Dialects in Baghdad'. He observes that the phenomenon was first noted by
al-JaHiZ in the 9th century CE, when it was apparently prestigious.

Blanc states (p. 22) that for his informants for dialects having 'gh'
(<etymological 'r'), the 'gh' is sometimes produced with little or no
audible velar constriction, making it thus impressionistically similar
to 'w'. Cf. also Abu-Haidar (1991) on this feature in Christian Baghdadi
Arabic, where she discusses 'gh' as the reflex of 'r'.

Blanc notes reports of this phenomenon outside Iraq 'as a stable
phonetic feature' (rather than an individual speech peculiarity) in some
Nth African areas (Marcais reports it for Djidjelli [town only, not
surrounding countryside] and suggests the same also for Tunis,
Constantine, Algiers, Fez, Meknes  - calling it 'une maladie des
villes'). Blanc concludes due to its prevalence in Iraq that there may
be traces of a 'r' > 'gh' shift in the older sedentary dialects of Iraq.

I have to comment that it seems a very common feature of (urban 'gilit')
Iraqi Arabic generally, although speakers themselves will tell you it's
a 'luthgha' or speech peculiarity (presumably due to external or MSA/CA
influence). In striking contrast, I don't remember hearing it among
Syrian or Palestinian speakers very much, and always thought it was
characteristically Iraqi. It seems to me much more prevalent amongst
Iraqi men than women. I have heard a clearly dorsal 'gh', although more
often it seems somewhat between an alveolar approximant and a labio-
velar glide (i.e. somewhat more labialised than RP English 'r').

Grrrreetings,
Alex.
-- 
Alex Bellem (Ms)
Tutor / PhD Candidate
Dept of Linguistics
SOAS, University of London
alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk
ab12 at soas.ac.uk

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Thu Aug  3 14:04:20 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:04:20 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi
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Date: 03 Aug 2006
From:John Joseph Colangelo <yaacolangelo at hotmail.com>
Subject:Needs Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi

I am desperately looking for a copy of ?????? ???????   
along with the tapes and any extra teaching material that comes with  
it. I am also interested in the cassettes. I understand it is an  
excellent book.

Thankyou,
John Colangelo

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Thu Aug  3 14:04:17 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:04:17 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Problems with Arabic on Firefox
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1) Subject:Problems with Arabic on Firefox

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Date: 003 Aug 2006
From:rsaslan <rsaslan at gmail.com>
Subject:Problems with Arabic on Firefox

Perhaps someone here can offer advice to my problem. I recent started
using Firefox after switching from Internet Explorer and have had
trouble viewing Arabic characters. In Explorer, I just set my options
to allow me to view Arabic script. But with Firefox, I thought I did
the same, I set the script to view Arabic, except that it seems to get
un-set each time I go to another webpage.

So whenever I come across something written in Arabic it appears like
garble and each time I have to go to view in the toolbar and manually
click on Arabic character encoding for each page I visit.

Is this a problem with the Firefox browser or have I not set my
options correctly? Anyone else experience the same problem or have any
ideas as to how I can have the language encoding keep its settings?

Thanks,
Rose Aslan

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:26:56 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:26:56 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Wants electronic dictionary recommendations
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1) Subject:Wants electronic dictionary recommendations

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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:Bill Cathey <b.cathey at yahoo.com>
Subject:Wants electronic dictionary recommendations

Hello,
Could anyone offer any advice or recommendations on choosing an  
Arabic <> English bilingual electronic dictionary (a handheld device,  
not a Web site)? I have no trouble finding the devices on commercial  
Web sites, but I would like to know what devices are considered best  
by professionals. Any specific recommendations you could offer or  
sources where I might find noncommercial reviews or recommendations  
would be much appreciated.

I've seen one advertised called, Al-Mawrid Talking Dictionary  
BAS-1875, which is described on one commercial Web site as: "the  
official authorized Arabic/English dictionary in the United Nations,  
and is aimed at Arabic speakers who wish to communicate in the  
English language." Is it also a good one for English speakers  
learning Arabic?


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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:00 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Needs refs on non-native Arabic acquisition
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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:Emma Trentman <dancingemu at gmail.com>
Subject:Needs refs on non-native Arabic acquisition

Hello,

I'm looking for articles and studies on the acquisition of Arabic  
dialect(s) by non-native speakers.  Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Emma Trentman

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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  2 23:27:09 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 17:27:09 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Lemma Query
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Date: 02 Aug 2006
From:capraia at yahoo.com
Subject:Lemma Query

ahlan!

i?d like to know what is the way to express the
'lemma' (following Sinclair?s terminology) in arabic.

in english lingusitics (and other latin script
languages')it is a convention to express the lemma in
capital letters. so, the lemma SING would account for
sing, sings, sang, song, etc...but since there?s no
distinction for capital letters in arabic i wonder how
it is specified.

would it be enough to use the radicals? i.e.: ktb
would account for kataba, yaktub, maktab, makatib
etc...because, in that case, the arabic lemma would
cover much more info than, for instance, the english
one.

shukran

-p

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Thu Aug  3 14:29:49 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 08:29:49 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LIST:Information about New Listserv
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Date: 03 Aug 2006
From:moderator
Subject:Information about New Listserv

As I mentioned in an earlier message, Arabic-L has been migrated to  
updated listserv software.  This adds an archive at Arabic-L itself  
(besides the archive maintained by Linguist), and it also allows you  
more control over your own subscription.  Here is how it works.

1. Determine what e-mail address you are signed up to Arabic-L  
under.  (This is important, because the other steps won't work unless  
you have the right version of your address.)  If you can't figure it  
out, e-mail me directly at dil at byu.edu.

2. Using a browser, log on to listserv.byu.edu.

3. Click on Get a LISTESERV password for this server.  This will  
bring you to a page where you will type in the e-mail address  
mentioned in #1 above, and then set a password, which you need to  
remember.

4. Go back to the listserv.byu.edu page and log on with your e-mail  
address and password.

5. Click on Subscriber's Corner.

6. A list of the things you are subscribed to will appear (probably  
just Arabic-L).

7. Click on Arabic-L to view and change your subscriber options.

8. On this page you can
	a. change the e-mail address you want to be subscribed from, by  
typing in the new address in the box (over the old one)
	b. change your subscription type: regular just posts the messages as  
I send them out, digest combines them into one long message and sends  
them out once a day, and index (I think) sends you the headers only.
	c. change the mail header style
	d. change the acknowledgements: noack means you won't receive  
confirmation that your message has been sent, and ack means the  
opposite.  If you leave Receive copy of own postings checked or  
unchecked, probably nothing will change.
	e. Miscellaneous: nomail temporarily stops sending you arabic-l  
messages (while you are on vacation, for example).  When you set your  
own local server to send out a message stating that you are away on  
vacation, I get that message for every message I send out.  When you  
multiply that by the number of subscribers on vacation at any one  
time, you might realize why I get hundreds of unwanted messages  
daily.  So, before you go on vacation, if you are going to set your  
own server to send out that message, it would also be nice if you set  
your Arabic-L subscription to nomail.  If I get annoyed enough I will  
do it for you.
	f. if you click Address concealed from REVIEW listing, then  
subscribers who request to see the list of subscribers to Arabic-L  
will not be given access to your address.  If you leave it unchecked,  
subscribers who want to see a list of other subscribers to Arabic-L  
will get a list that will include your address.  Non-subscribers will  
not have access to this list in any case.  If you send a message to  
Arabic-L, however, that in effect gives me permission to put your  
address on the message, so clicking this option doesn't conceal your  
address in all circumstances, only in the case of a subscriber  
sending a REVIEW command to the listserv and receiving back a list of  
subscribers.

9. Before you leave this window, you must click Update Options for  
the new selections to go into effect.

10. If you want to unsubscribe to Arabic-L, simply click on the  
button Leave Arabic-L

Most of the options on the subscriber options page have an underline,  
and if you click on that word you will be given more information  
about that option, although not always all the information you might  
want.

In some lists like Arabic-L the moderator simply sends the message on  
to subscribers without altering it. However, in Arabic-L, the message  
is copied into a template that includes the date, the topic, and  
which groups messages on the same subject together.  To accomplish  
this, I have to 'reject' the original message so it doesn't get  
passed on, and then send the revised format to the list.  If you get  
a rejection notice and then the message comes through anyway, that is  
probably the reason.
Remember, however, that the list is now set to automatically reject  
anything with attachments, so those won't get through to me at all.   
If you must send an attachment, send it directly to me, but it would  
be better to copy the contents of the attachment into the message  
itself, which is what I have to do before I post it.
Any questions?

Dil

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:47 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:47 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Electronic dictionaries response
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1) Subject:Electronic dictionaries response

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:GnhBos at AOL.COM
Subject:Electronic dictionaries response

Hi Bill,

For a long list of available variety of Handheld dictionaries, please  
go to:
http://www.aramedia.com/dictionaries.htm
Please do not hesitate to call us on the numbers, below.

George N. Hallak
www.aramedia.com
www.arabicsoftware.net
www.aramediastore.com
T 1-781-849-0021 F 1-781-849-2922

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:42 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi response
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1) Subject:Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi response

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:Adil Elshikh <adil59 at gmail.com>
Subject:Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi response

Which kitab asasi. There are many kitab asasi. Ther is a kitab asasi
in Khartoum international Institute for Arabic . There is also kitab
asasi published by UmmuQura University.  I will try to do my best to
find one of hem but how to send to you

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:35 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:35 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Needs Urdu font for PCs Suggestion
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1) Subject:Needs Urdu font for PCs Suggestion

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:"Bernhardt, James E" <BernhardtJE at state.gov>
Subject:Needs Urdu font for PCs Suggestion

Colleagues,
	Once again we are faced with on of those font challenges!  We are
looking for an Urdu font for PCs that is reliable and well  
supported.  We
will be using the font in a new distance learning package for Urdu.   
Thank
you for any suggestions or comments on Urdu fonts.
	Jim Bernhardt
	Chair, Department of Near East, Central and South Asian Languages
	The Foreign Service Institute
	U.S. Department of state
	bernhardtje at state.gov
	703-302-7291

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:38 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Another Exeter University Job
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1) Subject:Another Exeter University Job

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:Paul Auchterlonie <J.P.C.Auchterlonie at exeter.ac.uk>
Subject:Another Exeter University Job

The Institute of Arab and Islamic Studies at the University of Exeter
(U.K.) is seeking to appoint a Lecturer/Senior Lecturer/Associate
Professor in Arabic with effect from October 2006, or as soon as
possible thereafter.

The successful appointee will be expected to have a research and
publication record commensurate with the post and the stage they are
at in their career, with expertise in any aspect of the Arabic
language, including (but not restricted to): Arabic grammar and
grammatical theory, Arabic linguistics/sociolinguistics, phonology,
dialectology, translation studies, computer-assisted language
learning, and the teaching of Arabic as a foreign language. He/she
will play a leading role both in the design, delivery and further
development of the teaching and learning of Arabic and also in
managing and coordinating the syllabi, delivery and assessment of
language modules and programmes, each at both undergraduate and
postgraduate levels. Solid advanced knowledge of Arabic grammar and
the mainstream textbooks used to teach the language to non-native
speakers is essential. Familiarity with the use of language labs, the
Internet and WebCt in the teaching of Arabic will be a bonus. The
successful candidate will also be expected to supervise PhD students
working in relevant areas of interest.

For an informal discussion of the post please contact Professor
Rasheed El-Enany at r.el-enany at exeter.ac.uk or +44 (0)1392 26 40 27.

Salary will be circa ?28,000, ?35,000 and ?44,000 for the post of
Lecturer, Senior Lecturer, Associate Professor respectively.

Application packs are available from www.exeter.ac.uk/jobs;
email h.r.hebbard at exeter.ac.uk; or Answer-phone (01392) 263100,
quoting reference number 8456.

The closing date for completed applications is 25 August 2006.



Posted by Paul Auchterlonie, Librarian for Middle East Studies,
University of Exeter. For details of the post please contact:
h.r.hebbard at exeter.ac.uk

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:45 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:45 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Firefox & Arabic advice
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1) Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice
2) Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice
3) Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice
4) Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice
5) Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:regexer at GMAIL.COM
Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

Rose,

I'm not sure I have enough information to adequately diagnose the  
problem
(your operating system; version of Firefox), but here are some things to
try:

--Upgrade to Firefox 1.5--it's what I'm using now and it opens Arabic  
pages
automatically (I'm using Windows XP, Service Pack 2)
--Check your Windows regional settings. Go to Start-->Settings-->Control
Panel-->Regional and Language Options. Under the 'Languages' tab,  
make sure
the box is checked for "Install files for complex script and right-to- 
left
languages (including Thai)." You might need your Windows installation  
disk.

It's been my experience that any operating system older that Windows  
2000
requires some prodding to handle Arabic, and I personally would not use
Windows 2000 without applying service pack 4.

Please feel free to email me personally if I can be of any help.

Best regards,
Ben Huyck


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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:andyr at COMP.LEEDS.AC.UK
Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

Rose,

I'm not sure that I can help you fix Firefox, but what I can say is that
I've never had any problems viewing Arabic pages in Firefox. It seems
perfectly capable of auto-detecting the correct encoding and displaying
accordingly.

Is auto-detect set to 'Universal'? (View/Character Encoding/Auto Detect
menu.) Perhaps you've accidentally set it to 'Off' which may be causing
difficulties.

My guess therefore is that some options are not configured correctly for
you. That said, I didn't do anything special to enable Firefox to behave
properly, so perhaps there's a deeper issue at the OS level - perhaps
regarding fonts.

The only time I could forsee Firefox having difficulties is when a web
page doesn't specify its charset correctly. Test with different site.
For example, I know for certain that the al-Hayat site is encoded in
utf8 and displays perfectly (without intervention on my part.)

Andy

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From: medawar at PANIX.COM
Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

Rose, please try the following:

Tools -> Options -> Content -> Fonts & Colors -> Advanced
-> Arabic (Windows 1256)

This works for me since most content is published with the Microsoft  
Arabic encoding.

bassem

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:afraalmussawir at YAHOO.COM
Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

on the firefox Tools menu select Options, then choose "Content" from
the tabs at the top of the Options screen. you will see a menu for
"Default Font" at the bottom of the screen; next to it click the
Advanced button. from there, the menu at the bottom allows you to
select you "Default Character Encoding." i've never chosen arabic ones
as my default so i am not 100% sure that this will entirely solve the
problem you described. also, there are different arabic codes to
select, so hopefully you will see your preferred one listed there.
best,
afra

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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:melsayess at SOCAL.RR.COM
Subject:Firefox & Arabic advice

Greetings,

I was able to type   ?????  ??????? on Firefox.
Good luck!
Mahmoud Elsayess

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Fri Aug  4 16:59:40 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:59:40 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Arabic acquisition refs response
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Date: 04 Aug 2006
From:<dbacherm at waldenu.edu>
Subject:Arabic acquisition refs response

You might look at the book "Understanding Arabic.  Essays in  
Contemporary Arabic Linguistics in Honor of El-Sai Badawi".  The  
editor is Alaa Eligibali and the book is published by The American  
University of Cairo Press (1996). This has a few essays that speak to  
your topic.   Also, "Diversity in Language" (editors are Z. Ibrahim,  
N. Kassabgy & S. Aydelott) also published by AUC press (2000) has a  
few studies that address your interest.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug  7 14:53:10 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:53:10 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Arabic Electronic Dictionaries
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Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:"Jeremy Palmer" <jeremy.palmer at gmail.com>
Subject:Arabic Electronic Dictionaries

How about a Hans Wehr electronic version?  Anybody doing this or want  
to?

Jeremy

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug  7 14:53:00 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:53:00 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:ALS at BYU?
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1) Subject:ALS at BYU?
2) Subject:Arabic-L at BYU?
3) Subject:Seriously

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Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:Uri Horesh <urih at babel.ling.upenn.edu>
Subject:ALS at BYU?

To follow up on my "query" on lesbians and gays at ALS at Brigham  
Young University:

The real question is not whether people as individuals feel welcome  
or not. The fundamental problem is that our professional organization  
is scheduled to hold its annual meeting at an institution that  
blatantly excludes certain members of society from membership.

I am certain beyond doubt that ALS would never hold a conference in  
an institution that does not admit (let alone one that expels once  
admitted) African-Americans, Jews, Muslims, women, Catholics, people  
who are physically challenged, to name but a few groups  
discrimination against whom is intolerable in our society.

Lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgenders are no different.  
Discrimination against us is as contradictory to our core notions of  
academic freedom, civil liberties and basic human rights as are anti- 
Semitism, misogyny and xenophobia.

I call upon the officers and membership of ALS to immediately declare  
that institutions with an anti-LGBT policy and practice are unfit for  
hosting any of our membership-wide functions, and to actively seek an  
alternative venue for the 2007 Symposium.

Sincerely,
Uri Horesh
University of Pennsylvania and Georgetown University

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Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:Arabic-L at BYU?

I also think that ALS should immediately expel all officers and  
members who teach at BYU or belong to its supporting church.   
Furthermore, to express our outrage I believe we should all  
immediately withdraw our subscriptions to Arabic-L, which is  
supported both financially and physically by BYU.
Dil

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Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:Dilworth Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:Seriously

I wish it were a privilege to host the ALS annual symposium,  
something that were being competed for, so the board (the board?)  
would actually have a choice.  That is not the case.  I am grateful  
to BYU for allowing us to have the symposium here next year and would  
hope that our valuing of diversity would extend to the valuing of  
diversity in types of institution that we 'allow' to flourish in our  
multi-cultural and multi-religious society.

You are welcome to send me your comments about this issue, but I will  
not post them for, say, another 2 weeks, at which point I will post a  
summary.

Dil

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:53:08 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi
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Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:alatharee at comcast.net (Ali Hassan Al-atharee)
Subject:Al-Kitaab Al-Asaasi

I don't know if you live in Va or not but I saw a copy of book one  
and two in halalco last month. here is a website for them http:// 
halalco.com/
these books are difficult to come by, but they are very good books.

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:53:12 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Urdu font suggestions
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Date: 07 Aug 2006
From:"George N. Hallak, Boston" <GnhBos at aol.com>
Subject:Urdu font suggestions

Hi Bernhardt,

Please navigate the AramediA website to www.aramedia.com/uniword.htm
and download a free Demo of Universal Word 2000 (UNICODE Compliant),
ML-1 contains the Arabic based languages: Arabic, Azeri-Arabic, English,
Farsi, Malay-Jawi, Pashto, Urdu, Transliteration, Int'l Phonetic. The  
Urdu
happens to contain about 12 fonts.

UW 2000 sister Utility is OnePen, which can be purchased separately;
OP will insert Urdu (or non-native text) into any application which does
not support such non-native languages. OP-1 supports the above
languages, as in UW 2000 ML-1. www.aramedia.com/onepen.htm

Please do not hesitate from contacting me, anytime, at the numbers,  
below.

Best Regards,
www.aramedia.com
www.arabicsoftware.net
www.aramediastore.com
T 1-781-849-0021 F 1-781-849-2922

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug  8 15:11:13 2006
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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:11:13 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Al-Kitaab Al-Asasi source
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Date: 08 Aug 2006
From:"IBCBOOKS.COM" <ibc at ibcbooks.com>
Subject:Al-Kitaab Al-Asasi source

Kataab Al-Assasi ... You can check International Book Centre for  
these books
.. we do have a few left in stock. Claudette  www.ibcbooks.com

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:11:03 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Seminar on Teaching/Learning Arabic K-12 and on
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Date: 08 Aug 2006
From:Kassem Wahba <kmw43 at georgetown.edu>
Subject:Seminar on Teaching/Learning Arabic K-12 and on

[moderator's note: I can't find the date of this seminar anywhere on  
the announcement.  Maybe Kassem can send an addendum giving us the  
date.]

Arabic Language Workshop and Seminar Series


Towards Excellence in Arabic Language Programs




Teaching/Learning Arabic Language in K-12 and Post-Secondary Education

Critical issues and Future Directions

A One-Day Workshop given by the Department of Arabic and Islamic  
Studies, Georgetown University


Developments in recent times have changed the role and status of  
Arabic language teaching and learning in the United States. The  
dramatic increase of interest for learning Arabic combined with the  
varying needs of the learners has created new challenges for most  
Arabic programs. The situation has posed many pressing issues for  
teaching/learning Arabic at both K-12 and post-secondary levels:



1)   The demand for establishing new Arabic programs that meet the  
needs of the learners and the requirements of American education,  
especially at K-16 levels.

2)   The need for existing Arabic programs to define and deliver high- 
quality Arabic instruction, and to design new plans in order to adapt  
to changing demands and needs of new learners at both K-12 and post- 
secondary levels.

3)   The need for programs that provide Arabic teacher education in  
terms of preparation, training, and professional development.



It has become clear that the role of Arabic language teaching and  
learning and the demands for high quality language programs will not  
only be pressing issues for the next 10 years, but will continue to  
be important in subsequent decades as well. Thus, the need to explore  
key issues and create plans for future has become imperative.



Towards this end, we propose to convene at a one-day seminar to  
examine some central issues facing Arabic language teaching/learning  
and to explore recommendations for tackling these issues. This first  
seminar is meant to be a brainstorming session involving key figures  
in the field. It will be followed by a series of seminars/workshops  
that investigate these issues in greater detail. The main questions  
addressed in this seminar will be:



1)   What are the central concerns that must be addressed in terms of  
present Arabic language teaching demands?

2)   What can be done in response to these concerns?



The seminar will be for one day only. It will focus on K-12 and post- 
secondary including those at community college and university levels.  
Presenters are invited to participate in all sessions. While each  
presenter will present in only one session, participation in the  
other sessions is encouraged and appreciated.  The audience will be  
by invitation only.

Themes to be discussed are as follows:

1- Background Issues and Questions:

          a) K-12 Arabic language education in the U.S.: An

Overview

2- What Arabic to teach?

a) Is it ESA, MSA or Fu%Sha or what?

b) Hybrid Arabic



          3- Language Program Design K-16
a) The Arabic Learning Standards: Next Steps and

     Challenges

b) Flagship Program K-16 Goals: Problems & Issues Faced

     at Michigan State University



          4- Teacher Education/Training
a) Profile of K-12 Arabic language teachers? Needs

b) Teacher education: University teachers? Needs



Moderators

Kassem M. Wahba

Hana Zabarah



For contact for this seminar

Kassem Wahba
kmw43 at georgetown.edu
Hanaa Zabarah
Hana Zabarah
zabarahh at georgetown.edu
Sarah Monsell
sem73 at georgetown.edu
Dept. of Arabic and Islamic Studies
tel. 202-687-5743
fax. 202-687-2408
Box 571046
Intercultural Center 306
Washington, DC 20057








Seminar Program


8:30         Registration
8:45 Welcome: Ahmad Dallal Chair, Arabic and Islamic Studies

Session/Time
Topic
Speaker
First Session
Background Issues
Chair: Amin Bonnah
Georgetown University
9:00
K-12 Arabic language education in the U.S.: An Overview
Dora Johnson
Center of Applied Linguistics, Washington, D.C.

9:30                           Tea Break

Time
Topic
Speaker
Second Session
Goals and Choices: What Arabic to teach?
Chair: David Mehall University of Maryland: CASL, SAIC
9:45
Is it ESA, MSA or Fusha or What?
Karin Ryding
Georgetown University
10:15
Hybrid Arabic
Waheed Samy
University of Michigan
10:45
Discussion
David Wilmsen
Kassem Wahba
Georgetown University


12:00  Lunch Time

Time
Topic
Speaker
Third Session
Arabic Program Design K-16
Chair: Belkacem Baccouche
1:00
The Arabic Learning Standards: Next Steps and Challenges
Mahdi Alosh
Ohio State University formerly and West Point currently
1:30
Flagship Program K-16 Goals: Problems & Issues Faced at Michigan  
State University
Margo Glew
Michigan State University

2:00                            Tea Break


Time
Topic
Speaker
Fourth Session
Teacher Education/
Training
Chair: Zeina Azzam Seikaly
Georgetown University
Georgetown University
2:15
Profile of K-12 Arabic language teachers? Needs
Mahmoud Al-Batal
University of Austin
2:45
Planning Ahead: Arabic Language Teacher Education - A Global  
Perspective"
Liz England
Shenandoah University, Winchester, VA
3:15
Discussion
Jerry Lampe
The National Foreign Language Center-University of Maryland
4:30
Conclusion and Recommendations
Kassem Wahba
Hana Zabarah
Gergana Atanassova





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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:11:11 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Electronic Dictionaries Response
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Date: 08 Aug 2006
From:Vrsan Lestaric <fursan at EUnet.yu>
Subject:Electronic Dictionaries Response

I don't know about a good electronic dictionary but I do own one  
which is not so good - ATLAS SD700, PC2000 (with a CD and a cable  
enabling you to transfer data you entered into your personal  
dictionary to the computer; works with Windows 98/2000/Me/XP;  
www.atlassite.com). I bought it a few years ago in Damascus for  
around 250$.

It isn't altogether useless, you can find a word (you may not) but  
you cannot be sure that the meaning is accurate. It often isn't, as  
I've found out soon enough when I compared the meanings to Wehr. It  
is also intended primarily for Arab students learning English.  
Contains additional information as - most common words in English,  
medical info, common knowledge, invention and inventors, Arabic male  
and female names etc. It also has an organizer. Sounds nice, but it  
simply isn't reliable. Conclusion, I don't recommend it.

But if there were an electronic edition of Hans Wehr... be it as a  
computer program and/or as a part of an electronic dictionary  
software, that would be awesome! To speak the truth, the need for an  
electronic Wehr (or some other reliable Arabic-English dictionary,  
but none is like Wehr) is huge and I'm surprised that I've never  
heard of it.

Vrsan Lestaric

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:11:05 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:more encoding problems
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Date: 08 Aug 2006
From:John Meredith <johnmeredith at comcast.net>
Subject:more encoding problems

I am using Internet Explorer to query for books on grammar written in  
arabic
in the Hollis catalog at Harvard.

I see the results with horizontal bars above letters for natural madd  
and
dots below for the heavy letters in transliteration.

However, when I send the results to my email address which uses MS  
Outlook
2000 on my computer, the characters with bars appear as question  
marks and
the characters with dots appear as boxes when I select the default  
setting
of UTF-8 in the Hollis email page .  When I select the only other  
option,
which is ISO 8859-1, the letters with dots appear correctly but the  
doubling
of the vowel indicated by the horizontal bar appears as a single  
vowel. Also
the ' to indicate ayn disappears.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug  8 15:11:09 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:11:09 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Needs sources on Druze dialect
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Date: 08 Aug 2006
From:"Terrence M. Potter" <tmp28 at georgetown.edu>
Subject:Needs sources on Druze dialect

Dear Sir

i am an MA student in jordan university of science and
technology in Jordan. i am writing my master thesis on
the manitenance of language and culture among the
Druze of jordan. i have searched the Web and the
available databases for an article or a study which
talks or describes the Druze dialect but unfortunately
i found nothing.
i am writing to you seeking help.  i would be very
greatiful if you kindly could provide me with
information about any study which dealt with the Druze
Arabic dialect or described it.

Best regards
Abdulaziz Alzoubi

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  9 19:05:22 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:22 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Date for Georgetown workshop
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2) Subject:Date for Georgetown workshop

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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:kassem wahba <kassem_wahba at yahoo.com>
Subject:Date for Georgetown workshop


Dear Dil,
Sorry for the mistake. It is Sep. 23rd-2006. It will
be at Georgetown. Arabic Department.ICC Buidling.
Intercultural Center 306
Washington, DC 20057. Room Number will be arranged.
Thanks again for your help
Best
Kassem Wahba

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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:Rebecca Hodges <beccahodges at hotmail.com>
Subject:Date for Georgetown workshop

I found this date on the georgetown website: Arabic Language Workshop  
and Seminar Series
September 23, 2006
http://www3.georgetown.edu/departments/arabic/news/
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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:17 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:query on grammar conceptualization (Arab vs.
 European)
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:"Uhlmann, Allon" <uhlmanna at umsl.edu>
Subject:query on grammar conceptualization (Arab vs. European)

Hi Everyone,

A couple of questions:

1.  Do you know of any references that systematically compare the way  
Arabic grammar has been conceptualised and taught in the Arab world,  
vs the  way it has been conceptualised and taught in Europe?

2.  In his intro to "A Grammar of the Arabic Language" Wright  
mentions Lumsden's 1813 work (A Grammar of the Arabic Language) as  
one of his major sources, but proceeds to write that it "is based on  
the system of the Arab Grammarians, and therefore but ill-adapted,  
apart from its bulk and rarity, for the use of beginners."  (pp v- 
vi).  I have superficially skimmed parts of Lumsden's 702-page volume  
on microfiche, and it appears that he raises some theoretical  
objections to concepts of comparative linguistics, but it did not  
strike me that the material is conceptualised in a radically  
different way from other European sources.  I will look further into  
it, but on the off-chance that somebody out there might know what  
Wright was referring to, I thought I would ask the list.

Thanks for your help.

Salamaat,
A.

Allon J. Uhlmann
Assistant Professor of Anthropology
University of Missouri - St. Louis
http://www.umsl.edu/~uhlmanna/

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Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:29 -0600
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From: "Muhammad Eissa" <eissa at comcast.net>
Subject:Needs studies of early Arabic Acq as 2nd lang

Is there any study or studies dealing with learning and acquiring  
Arabic as
a foreign language in early ages (3 - 6)? Any information on the  
subject or
related issues will be highly appreciated.

	Salaam

Muhammad S. Eissa, Ph. D.
President, EISSA & ASSOCIATES, Inc.
Arabic and Islamic Consulting & Education
2020 Orrington Ave., Evanston, IL 60201
Ph. (847) 869-4775
Fax. (847) 869-4773
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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:25 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:On-line Arabic-Hebrew dictionary
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:Rahel Halabe <rahel at telus.net>
Subject:On-line Arabic-Hebrew dictionary

https://listserv.byu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?OK=F45BFE25&L=ARABIC-L
  The Ayalon Shin'ar Arabic-Hebrew dictionary is on line now

http://ayalosh.snunit.k12.il

With the time it will be updated as well.

Rahel

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug  9 19:05:13 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:13 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Urdu font response
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From: "al-Husein N. Madhany" <anm at post.harvard.edu>
Subject:Urdu font response

Microsoft Office 2003 has available an Urdu language support web site
available here:
<http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/arabicdev/Urdu/urdu_support.asp>.
I highly recommend that anyone who uses South Asian language fonts
consult the University of Chicago's South Asian Language Resource
Center's (SALRC) best practices web site:
<http://salrc.uchicago.edu/resources/fonts/>.


By far, one of the better free, comprehensive, Unicode 4.0-compliant,
transliteration systems available is hosted at:
<http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/software/softwa.htm#Etabelle>.  The
TITUS Cyberbit Basic translation font is a product of an academic
digitization and standardization project.  It contains all the
characters necessary for transliterating the most common Arabic-script
languages including Arabic, Turkish, Persian, and Urdu.  The size and
shape of the font resembles Times New Roman, although the space
between the typed lines is larger.  Therefore a single-spaced page of
text composed in TITUS Cyberbit Basic looks like the spacing is
actually one and one-half (1.5) space.  Installation instructions are
available on the above link.  See the beauty of the Arabic-script font
in action here if you still doubt:
<http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/unicode/alphabet/arabtest.htm>.  For
more Unicode scripts that this font supports, see
<http://titus.uni-frankfurt.de/unicode/unitest.htm#Etabelle>.


Installing the TITUS Cyberbit Basic (True Type) font is a simple
9-step process.  First, point your browser to:
<http://titus.fkidg1.uni-frankfurt.de/unicode/tituut.asp>.  Second,
fill in the form.  (If you're worried about privacy, aliases are
permitted.)  Third, select the option 'Self-extracting EXE file' and
then left click the 'Submit'-button.  Fourth, right click on the word
"here" in the sentence "Please download the font now by clicking
here."  You can save the file to your desktop by right clicking on the
word "here" and choosing Save Target As (in EI) or Save Link As? (in
Mozilla).  Fifth, point to your desktop.  After the download is
completed, double left click the file on your desktop to decompress
it.  Seventh, open your 'Fonts' folder (in the Control Panel).
Eighth, drag the TITUSCBZ.TTF font file from your desktop into the
Font folder by left-clicking on the TTF file and moving it into the
Font folder.  Ninth, drop the TTF file into the Font folder.  TITUS
Cyberbit Basic (True Type) has been successfully installed.


Best of luck,
al-Husein Madhany
University of Chicago

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 13:05:19 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:encoding problems response
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Date: 01 Aug 2006
From:"George N. Hallak, Boston" <GnhBos at aol.com>
Subject:encoding problems response

This may be strange, but, worth the try.
When you receive the email with the wrong symbols,
hit the reply button, then, look at the text, it may be
as correct as you sent it!

The squares and question marks (?) may mean that you
do not have the right font or language enabled, in some
cases!

Good Luck...

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak
AramediA
61 Adams Street
Braintree, MA 02184 USA

www.aramedia.com
www.arabicsoftware.net
www.aramediastore.com
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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug 15 15:36:50 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:36:50 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Urdu font response
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Date: 15 Aug 2006
From:Urdu font response
Subject:Urdu font response

the place to start is:
http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/pickers/arabic-basic/
also
http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/pickers
anyway at the bottom of the picker page there are a couple of very  
contentful links to Urdu specific stuff if you hunt hard enough.
I arrived at this link w/ two clicks of the mouse:
http://www.travelphrases.info/gallery/Fonts_Urdu.html
The following link can be arrived at with only one click, but then  
you need to hunt for Urdu and/or Pakistan.  http://www.alanwood.net/ 
unicode/fonts.html#arabic
There are some very handsome Nastaleeq and Naskhi fonts that fully  
support Urdu in Unicode.
cheers,
Andy
andfreem at microsoft.com

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug 15 15:36:22 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:36:22 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Who has rights to Wehr?
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Date: 15 Aug 2006
From:"Erol Baykal" <erol at baykal.be>
Subject:Who has rights to Wehr?

Who holds the rights to Wehr/Cowan anyway? Wouldn't it be their job  
to publish a digital version of it? Or is it public domain?

Erol Baykal

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug 15 15:36:45 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:36:45 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Soqrotri Arabic folktale
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Date: 15 Aug 2006
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:Soqrotri Arabic folktale

Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:30:51
From: Vladimir Agafonov < soqotra at pochta.ru >
Subject: Soqotri Arabic Language folktale text in PDF

Soqotri Modern Standard Arabic Language folktale text
in Qalansiya dialect published in California Linguistic Notes,
Vol. XXX, No 1  Spring, 2006

California Linguistic Notes just published in its
Vol. XXX , No 1  Spring, 2006  a Soqotran
folk tale BISMILLA recorded in the dialect of
Qalansiya - the second main town of the island
of Soqotra (Republic of Yemen). The publica-
tion consists of a phonemic transcription (similar
to classical D.-H. Mueller transcriptions) of the
Soqotri tale text as well as its word for word
and free literated translations into English.

The file is freely available in PDF format, at
http://hss.fullerton.edu/linguistics/cln/

For those interested in unwritten, Afrasian, Semitic,
South Arabian languages, traditional folklore,
world heritage issues.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug 15 15:36:32 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:36:32 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Persian or Farsi?
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1) Subject:Persian or Farsi?

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Date: 15 Aug 2006
From:BernhardtJE at state.gov
Subject:Persian or Farsi?

Colleagues,
	We are having a lively discussion on the use of the words 'Persian'
and 'Farsi' to name the language spoken in Iran.  The Ethnologue  
seems to
prefer 'Farsi' (http://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=IR).   
Would
you agree with that?  If not, why not?
James E. Bernhardt
Chair, Near East, Central and South Asian Languages
FSI
703-302-7291

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 16 23:11:53 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:11:53 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Query about Soqotri text
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Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:Alex Bellem <alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk>
Subject:Query about Soqotri text

Greetings again,
Does anyone know if the sound file for this Soqotri text is also
available online?
Thanks,
Alex.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 16 23:11:55 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:11:55 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Persian or Farsi responses
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2) Subject:Persian or Farsi response
3) Subject:Persian or Farsi response
4) Subject:Persian or Farsi response
5) Subject:Persian or Farsi response

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Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:"Lampe, Gerald" <glampe at nflc.org>
Subject:Persian or Farsi response

The correct word in English is "Persian." "Farsi" is the Persian word
for Persian. This issue is somewhat complicated by the fact that some
folks in the government refer to "Persian Farsi," meaning the Persian
spoken in Iran as opposed to variants of Persian spoken in other
countries, Dari and Tajik.

Gerald E. Lampe, Ph.D.

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Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:Alex Bellem <alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk>
Subject:Persian or Farsi response

Greetings.

It seems to me that it comes down to the political (non-)correctness of
generally nativising or Anglicising words, and which term is adopted
depends on how far one is happy to accept nativisation / Anglicisation
or not. So if we insist on 'Farsi' then shouldn't we insist also on
'TUrkCe' or 'Espagnol' or 'Hellenic', and so on? Since it is accepted in
linguistics as natural that non-native words are adapted to conform to
the phonology of the borrowing language (perhaps via an intermediate
'conveyor' language), can we object to 'Persian' on linguistic grounds?

So at the end of the day, I suppose that perhaps the context of use
should be the deciding factor. I tend to use 'Farsi' with colleagues and
speakers of ME languages, but I would probably use 'Persian' with people
outside that context. Hasn't anyone voted for Irani / Iranian yet?!

Best,
Alex.

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Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:Franklin Lewis <flewis at uchicago.edu>
Subject:Persian or Farsi response
Persian is the conventional term in English, as in

most European languages (persidskoi, persisch,

perse, etc.), going back to the time of Herodotus, or

earlier. Ironically, both words derive ultimately from the

name of the southern province of Pars, where the

Achaemenids had their capital.  This of course became

"Fars" in the Arabic alphabet, for lack of the phoneme

"p."

      The term "Farsi"  began to creep into English in

the 1960s, mostly as a result of foreigners in Iran

hearing it from native-speakers who, presumably,

did not know English well enough to know that the

English name of their language had always been

Persian.  The media has accelerated and canonized

that process with the spread of the Iranian diaspora

around the English-speaking world, especially,

perhaps in North America.

      As there is no such thing as Farsi carpets, Farsi

literature, Farsi cats, Farsi food, etc., it seems rather

ridiculous to use this English neologism as

a general adjective for the language.  The Persian

language is spoken in Iran, Afghanistan and Tajikistan

as an official  language.  Though the native nomenclature

for it differs in many contexts (Tajiks often call their

language "Tojiki,"  Afghans often use "Dari", whereas

Iranians typically use "Farsi"), the language is one, just as

the various varieties of world English are varieties

of one English, and not primarily "Scottish," "Australian,"

"American" or Anglo-South Asian.  The most salient difference

between the varieties of Persian is that the Tajiks have,

since WWII, used the Cyrillic alphabet to write Persian (and

a decade or so before that, they had converted to the Latin

alphabet).

     Of course, with the advent of European imperialism and the

emergence of the distinct modern  national states of Afghanistan,

Iran and Tajikistan, each with their own separate school system

and political history (and often language academy), the literary

Persian language has perhaps become less homogenous than

it was before the 18th century all the way from the Balkans to

Bengal.  Nevertheless, recent years have seen important trends

in the opposite direction, such as news programs in Persian

prepared by and aimed at a multi-national Persian-speaking

audience (e.g., the Persian Services of the BBC and of

Radio France; this in stark contrast to US Persian services -

RFE/RL and VOA], which divide their broadcasts along the

three national varieties of Persian, and call them Dari. Tajik and

"Persian" - the latter recently adopted in place of its former name

"Farsi" at the request of listeners and the personnel of the radio

program).  Since independence from the Soviet Union, Tajikistan has

also  been discussing a return to the Arabic script, but to my knowledge

no serious attempt has yet been undertaken.

        Therefore, in certain technical contexts, where one wishes to

distinguish the varieties / dialects of Persian, one might reasonably

use "Farsi," "Tajiki," and "Dari" (though there are other valid ways to

divide the dialects of Persian, a conventional one being "Khorasani,"

which can include north eastern Iran, western Afghanistan and

Tajikistan, so that the division of the language into "national"

varieties is not necessarily the most linguistically satisfactory

categorization of Persian).  Outside of such a precise linguistic

context, however, "farsi" is quite an unnecessary (one might even

venture to say uneducated) usage, except where considerations

of nationalism or (in the case of Tajik Persian) script are

paramount.

    I believe the above more or less reflects the opinion of the great

majority of Persianists in academia (one finds no reputable grammars

of "Farsi," or histories of "Farsi" literature, or classes in "Farsi"

at major English-speaking universities).  The issue has been

discussed frequently on email lists, such as Adabiyat, and

variouis print fora.


yrs, Franklin Lewis



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Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:Dan Parvaz <dparvaz at mac.com>
Subject:Persian or Farsi response

Po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to...

This is a tired terminological debate which serves no real purpose.  
Every now and then, someone with this particular bee in his (or her,  
but it usually seems to be some guy) bonnet decides to that because  
"Farsi" is simply Persian for "Persian", that logic dictates we use  
the English term. "We don't study 'Arabi' or 'Ivrit'," goes the  
litany, "so why do we use 'Farsi'?"

I know this is an Arabic list, but... logic, shmogic. It's a useful  
terminological distinction when discussing the differences between  
Persian as spoken in Iran (particularly the Tehran dialect), Persian  
as spoken in Afghanistan (especially Kabul), and Persian as spoken in  
Tajikistan. They're all "Persian", but the labels "Farsi,"  
"Dari" (another Persian word no one seems to object to), and "Tajiki"  
are succinct and accepted more or less everywhere to highlight the  
very real differences between the lects.

That said, using one term or the other is probably a useful  
shibboleth: it separates those with spare time on their hands from  
those who don't.

Cheers,

-Dan.

PS: Hasn't anyone brought up the whole Parsi/Farsi issue? It's just  
as vital.

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Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:BearMeiser at aol.com
Subject:Persian or Farsi response

Qiyaasan, "Persian" is the correct name for the language in English.  
Just as we call the language spoken in France "French" and not  
"Francais," and the language spoken in Spain "Spanish" and not  
"Espanol," so we should call the language spoken in Iran by its  
English name when speaking English.

Samaa'an, however, it seems to be very common practice amongst  
Persian speakers in the United States to call their language "Farsi"  
when they are speaking English, and not "Persian." Thus, since this  
is a common usage, "Farsi" is also correct.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 16 23:11:51 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:11:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Rights to Wehr
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Date: 16 Aug 2006
From:"George N. Hallak, Boston" <GnhBos at aol.com>
Subject:Rights to Wehr

Intellectual Property is, definitely, not a public domain. The  
publishers
of the Dictionary have the option to contract a digital dictionary  
maker,
and authorize a handheld. Or, a digital dictionary maker may buy
the rights from Wehr publishers, to digitize the dictionary and sell it
as a CD and/or a handheld. Some models may have sound too!

On Amazon, you may find:

Arabic-English Dictionary: The Hans Wehr Dictionary of Modern Written  
Arabic
by Hans Wehr (Paperback - May 1, 1993)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0879500034/sr=8-1/qid=1155659414/ 
ref=sr_1_1
/002-3687218-4833616?ie=UTF8

Dictionary of Modern Written Arabic (Hardcover)
by Hans Wehr (Editor), J. Milton Cowan (Editor)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0879500026/sr=8-2/qid=1155659414/ 
ref=sr_1_2
/002-3687218-4833616?ie=UTF8

If there is funding for such a project, it would be great. If a  
commercial
entity to do that, they would study the feasibility of making money
and not lose on their investment, for being a good citizen!

We do carry a long line of Electronic, Talking, Digital, Handheld
Dictionaries, some are good sellers, others are not. The good sellers
are updated, the other are discontinued. Many discontinued items,
sometimes, are great products, but, do not sell or warrant additional
production of newer models! www.aramedia.com/dictionaries.htm

Best Regards,

George N. Hallak
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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 21 21:04:38 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:38 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:University of Virginian jobs
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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:sda9q at virginia.edu
Subject:University of Virginian jobs

The Department of Asian and Middle Eastern Languages and Cultures  
(AMELC) at the University of Virginia announces two lectureships in  
Arabic language beginning Fall Semester 2007. Initial probationary  
appointment is for one year, with the possibility for three-year  
renewals afterwards. We are looking for professional, skilled  
language instructors with competence in Modern Standard Arabic (MSA),  
Arabic grammar and a serious commitment to teaching language at  
elementary, intermediate and advanced levels. Applicants should have  
native, or near native fluency in MSA, one dialect and English. MA or  
higher in Arabic language study or literature, or an allied field is  
required. Preference will be given to candidates with successful  
teaching records. Responsibilities will include teaching 12 to 15  
hours per week and participating in the administration of the Arabic  
Program. Salary is commensurate with qualifications and teaching  
experience.

An application letter, current curriculum vitae, and three letters of  
reference can be sent electronically to the following address:  
arabicsearch at virginia.edu

Hard copies of the above testimonials should be sent to:

Chair
Arabic Search Committee
Asian & Middle Eastern Languages and Cultures
P. O. Box 400781
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22904-4781

Review of applications will begin October 6, 2006 and continue until  
the positions is filled.

The University of Virginia is an Equal Opportunity/Affirmative Action  
Employer. Women and minorities are encouraged to apply.

If you have any questions regarding our search, please email us at  
arabicsearch at virginia.edu. In addition, if you have any questions,  
please call us at 434-982-2304/434-982-2665.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 21 21:04:35 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:35 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Trinity University job (Washington D.C.)
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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From: "Lampe, Gerald" <glampe at nflc.org>
Subject:Trinity University job (Washington D.C.)


Trinity University in Washington, D.C. invites applications for a  
part time instructor to teach Introductory Arabic beginning in the  
Fall semester of 2006. The position involves teaching one course per  
semester.  We are seeking a candidate with a minimum of a Masters  
Degree in Arabic.  The candidate selected for this position must be  
able to meet eligibility requirements to work in the United States at  
the time of employment.  To apply for this position, please submit a  
resume/curriculum vita to Dr. Anne Henderson, Dean of the College of  
Arts and Sciences, Trinity University: hendersona at trinitydc.edu

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 21 21:04:47 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:47 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:San'ani sound
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1) Subject:San'ani sound

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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:"Andrew Freeman" <andyf at u.washington.edu>
Subject:San'ani sound

Sound patches of authentic old city San'ani
	 I stumbled across this amazing
resource which can be found @
http://www.semarch.uni-hd.de/tondokumente.php4? 
LD_ID=5&RG_ID=25&ORT_ID=54 .

	Here you can find some of the sound patches found in Janet Watson's
book "Social Issues in Popular Yemeni Culture".  This book contains more
than 60 transcripts of the popular Yemeni radio show "Mus'id wa Mus'ida"
along with an equal number of very close and accurate translations of  
the
texts.
	This collection also contains some of the sound patches from
Watson's book "Wasf San'a: Texts in San'ani Arabic," pp. viii + 319,  
Otto
Harrassowitz: Wiesbaden.
	I think that anybody wanting to access the highlands lects of
Northern Yemen could find benefit from listening to these patches.

Andy Freeman
Software Design Engineer, Microsoft

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 21 21:04:42 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:42 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:University of Maryland Job
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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:elgibali at umd.edu
Subject:University of Maryland Job

Assistant Professor of Arabic

The School of Languages, Literatures, and Cultures (SLLC) at the  
University of Maryland, College Park, invites applications for an  
appointment in Arabic language and culture at the rank of Assistant  
Professor. This is a tenure-track position, with salary based on a  
nine-month contract. The successful candidate will join a rapidly  
expanding Arabic program within the School, with half of his or her  
teaching in the new Arabic Flagship program. Candidates should have a  
Ph.D., with a specialization in modern Arabic language and culture,  
and should demonstrate strong promise in research and teaching.  
Training in Arabic linguistics and language teaching experience are  
desirable additional strengths. Salary is competitive, based on  
qualifications and experience.

Applications: for best consideration, send a letter of application,  
curriculum vitae, and contact information for three referees by  
October 30, 2006 to: Ms. Anne Geary, Arabic Search Committee, School  
of Languages, Literatures, and Cultures, 1105 Jimenez Hall,  
University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742. Review of  
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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:45 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Why do electronic Wehr?
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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:Marc Van Mol <Mark.VanMol at ilt.kuleuven.be>
Subject:Why do electronic Wehr?

Hello,

I wonder why there should be an electronic version of the dictionary  
of Hans Wehr?  The dictionary of Hans Wehr is quite outdated.  I have  
been working on the compilation of Arabic dictionaries for Dutch for  
more than 20 years and I can assure everybody that the dictionary of  
Hans Wehr contains many obsolete words which are not used anymore.   
Moreover, there are many words (5%) from our database based on a  
modern corpus) which do not occur un the dictionary of Hans Wehr.   
Another problem is the fact that it is a translation from German,  
which means that it contains many uncertain meanings.  See for an  
evaluation my article in: Van Mol, Mark (2000) The development of a  
new learner's dictionary for 	Modern Standard Arabic, the corpus  
linguistic approach, In Proceedings of 	the Ninth EURALEX  
international Congress, Stuttgart, 8-12 august 2000, pp. 831-836.   
The dictionary of Wehr is also not conceived according to modern  
standards of lexicography, which are most clearly defined in, among  
others, the cobuild dictionaries of English.  The question is why the  
English speaking community doesn't start a common effort to make an  
up to date electronic dictionary according to modern principles in  
lexicography.  Technically speaking there is no problem because we  
have developed a bidirectional relational database for dictionaries  
on which our paper dictionaries are based.  Many elements in this  
database are reusable for other languages, which coule mean an  
important saving in time.

The problem is that for the compilation corpora will have to be  
translated in detail, which is a painstaking work demanding a great  
effort.  Many of the things we would like to know are not registered  
in Hans Wehrs' dictionary which is basically a word to word  
translation dictionary with almost no information on collocations,  
frequency etc.  For more details on the work we have done about  
Arabic lexicography and compputer technology, you can visit our website:

http://www.kuleuven.ac.be/ilt/arabic/index_en.htm

Greetings,

Mark Van Mol
Institute for Living Languages
Faculty of arts
Dekenstraat 6
B 3000 Leuven
Belgium

tel. + 32 16 32 56 83
fax. + 32 16 32 56 56
E-mail:  Mark.VanMol at ilt.kuleuven.ac.be

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 21 21:04:48 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Rights to Wehr
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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:Andrew Freeman <andyf at u.washington.edu>
Subject:Rights to Wehr

Howdy,
	I do believe that Otto Harrassowitz owns the rights to the Hans Wehr
dictionary.
andy

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 21 21:04:51 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:04:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Book
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1) Subject:New Book:Language, Religion and National Identity in  
Europe and the Middle East: Myhill

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Date: 21 Aug 2006
From:reposted from LINGUIST
Subject:New Book


Title: Language, Religion and National Identity in Europe and the Middle
East
Subtitle: A historical study
Series Title: Discourse Approaches to Politics, Society and Culture 21

Publication Year: 2006
Publisher: John Benjamins
	   http://www.benjamins.com/
	

Book URL: http://www.benjamins.com/cgi-bin/t_bookview.cgi? 
bookid=DAPSAC%2021


Author: John Myhill, University of Haifa

Hardback: ISBN: 902722711X Pages: 300 Price: U.S. $ 138.00
Hardback: ISBN: 902722711X Pages: 300 Price: Europe EURO 115.00


Abstract:

This book discusses the historical record of the idea that language is
associated with national identity, demonstrating that different
applications of this idea have consistently produced certain types of
results. Nationalist movements aimed at 'unification', based upon  
languages
which vary greatly at the spoken level, e.g. German, Italian, Pan- 
Turkish
and Arabic, have been associated with aggression, fascism and genocide,
while those based upon relatively homogeneous spoken languages, e.g.  
Czech,
Norwegian and Ukrainian, have resulted in national liberation and
international stability. It is also shown that religion can be more
important to national identity than language, but only for religious  
groups
which were understood in premodern times to be national rather than
universal or doctrinal, e.g. Jews, Armenians, Maronites, Serbs, Dutch  
and
English; this is demonstrated with discussions of the Holocaust, the
Armenian Genocide, the civil war in Lebanon and the breakup of  
Yugoslavia,
the United Netherlands and the United Kingdom.

Table of contents

Acknowledgements  vii
Introduction  1-26
Premodern national churches, Roman Europe, and the Caliphate  27-70
Small languages and national liberation  71-117
Big languages, delusions of grandeur, war, and fascism  119-176
Language, religion, and nationalism in Europe  177-227
Language, religion, and nationalism in the Middle East  229-276
Conclusion  277-281
Bibliography  283-293
Index  295-300


"It has always been clear that language is linked to nationalism and
nationalism to language. What John Myhill has done here is to show  
for the
first time that this easy equation ignores the linguistic facts. It  
may be
true that a "language is a dialect with an army and a navy." But it  
is not
just the army and the navy that matter. It also matters that some  
languages
are more obviously languages than others."  Peter Trudgill



Linguistic Field(s): Anthropological Linguistics
                      Sociolinguistics

Subject Language(s): Arabic, Standard (arb)
                      Armenian (hye)
                      Czech (ces)
                      Dutch (nld)
                      English (eng)
                      German, Standard (deu)
                      Italian (ita)
                      Norwegian, Nynorsk (nno)
                      Ukrainian (ukr)
                      Serbian (srp)


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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 23 16:15:18 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:18 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:More dictionary responses
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1) Subject:Dictionary response
2) Subject:Dictionary response

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:Jan Hoogland <j.hoogland at let.ru.nl>
Subject:More on new and old dictionaries

As a colleague (and competitor ;-) of Mark I can only agree with him.
Without having read all last week's messages about Wehr since I just
returned from my holiday, I can only agree with Mark on his critical
remarks about Wehr.
As an arabist who started studying Arabic in 1976, I grew up with Wehr,
so I certainly know what Wehr has meant for thousands of arabists from
all parts of the world, but we have to realize in what era Wehr has
compiled his (then) outstanding dictionary.

In addition to Mark's suggestion that the English speaking community
could undertake a common effort I would like to inform the whole Arabic
and English speaking community that the data of both Mark's dictionary
and mine are, on certain conditions of course, available for reusing for
scientific purposes and for (commercial) publishers.
I would be glad to supply additional information on this topic to
interested parties.

More information on the dictionary project, including sample pages, can
be found at the project website: www.let.ru.nl/wba

Furthermore I take the liberty of quoting my good friend and colleague
Tim Buckwalter who wrote on this list some months ago:
There are probably more recent works. Also, if you plan to identify
word-sense subdivisions, you will find the numbered senses in Jan
Hoogland's Arabic-Dutch dictionary quite useful. Hoogland's dictionary
is considerably more up to date than Wehr's lexicon--and it's corpus
based. (sorry for removing context - jh)

Jan

Jan (Abu Samir) Hoogland
Dept. of Arabic, University of Nijmegen
POB 9103, 6500 HD Nijmegen, the Netherlands
phone (0)24-3612641, residence: (0)24-3550199, mobile:(0)653652861
mobile in Morocco/GSM au Maroc: +-212-(0)79 146312
fax: (0)24-3500719
mail: j.hoogland at let.ru.nl
personal website: www.janhoogland.com
Arabic dictionary project website: www.let.ru.nl/wba
website Nederlands Instituut in Marokko: www.let.ru.nl/NIMAR

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2)
Date: 23 Aug 2006
From: "Erol Baykal" <erol at baykal.be>
Subject:More on new and old dictionaries

Dear professor Van Mol,

Wehr's English edition is practically the holy scripture of Arabic  
students, despite of it being a translated version!
While I do understand your concern about it being outdated - both in  
content and in "architecture" - I don't think this would mean that  
Wehr would be unsuitable for digitizing. During the digitizing  
project Wehr can be updated by adding new vocabulary and molding it  
into a modern architecture with techniques which you have proposed.

Wehr/Cowan can be used as a base for a very good Arabic/English/ 
Arabic electronic dictionary.

Greetings,

Baykal Erol

http://acon.baykal.be
http://www.baykal.be

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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:24 -0600
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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:"Waheed Samy" <wasamy at umich.edu>
Subject:San'ani sound thanks

Thanks Andy, this site is great resource.
Waheed

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 23 16:15:21 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:21 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Cultural Linguist Sought for court case
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1) Subject:Cultural Linguist Sought for court case

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:ValerieSmi at aol.com
Subject:Cultural Linguist Sought for court case

 From an Arab American Attorney I know:

We have a trial now set to start in Federal Court in Miami, Florida.
The government intends to introduce the contents of several (about 200)
taped phone conversations between the defendants and each other.

The government is going to argue that the translations of the
conversations show that the defendants intended to engage in illegal
activity.  Our position is that the conversations contained a great deal
of hyperbole and language that is part of the Arabic culture.  We
believe that the statements cannot be meaningfully translated without
putting them in cultural context.

We are looking to retain someone who can listen to the conversations (in
Arabic) and put them in context.  The individual will need to start as
soon as possible.  The tapes and government translations can be made
available for use at the individual's place of work so that there will
be minimal travel required.  Testimony in court will probably be
necessary in December, 2006 and February, 2007.  Each Court appearance
will probably require one full day.  Prior forensic experience is a
plus, but is not required.

Interested parties should send their resume/cv to me at
wwswor at sworlaw.com.  The subject line should be "Cultural Linguist".

Thanks,

Bill Swor
3060 Penobscot Building
645 Griswold St.
Detroit, MI 48226
wwswor at juno.com
(313) 967-0200
(313) 961-4926 fax

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 23 16:15:14 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:14 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Early Arabic Acquisition as 2nd lang response
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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:"Abdul-rahman sharkawy" <sharqawy at hotmail.com>
Subject:Early Arabic Acquisition as 2nd lang response

Hi There
I think you can contact Dr. Mohammad Elsharkawy as his ph.d. was in a  
close period of study and his mail adress is mtarek2000 at hotmail.com
thank you

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 23 16:15:08 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:08 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Arabic NEMLAR resources
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1) Subject:Arabic NEMLAR resources

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:reposted form LINGUIST
Subject:Arabic NEMLAR resources

Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 10:27:56
From: Helene Mazo < mazo at elda.org >
Subject: NEMLAR Arabic Resouces in ELRA Catalogue - 08/06

ELRA - Language Resources Catalogue - Update

We are happy to announce the following Arabic resources, produced within
the NEMLAR project (www.nemlar.org). All 3 resources are owned and
copyrighted by the Nemlar Consortium. They are available in our  
catalogue.
To view all the Language Resources available, you can visit our on-line
catalogue: http://www.elra.info  or http://www.elda.org


ELRA-W0042 NEMLAR Written Corpus

This corpus consists of about 500,000 words of Arabic text from 13
different categories. The text is provided in 4 different versions:
- Raw text
- Fully vowelized text
- Text with Arabic lexical analysis
- Text with Arabic POS-tags

The database is distributed on 1 ISO 9660 CD-ROM volume.

For more information, see
http://catalog.elda.org:8080/product_info.php? 
products_id=873&osCsid=2eb47737dba8e4365c4972784a235948


ELRA-S0219 NEMLAR Broadcast News Speech Corpus

The data consists of about 40 hours and is provided by ELDA of Arabic  
data
(mainly Standard Arabic from a number of broadcast companies);
Transcriptions follow the Transcriber conventions as used by ELDA and  
focus
on the orthographic, named entities, speaker/turn segmentation  
levels. No
phonetic transcription/segmentation is planned.

The database is distributed in 1 ISO 9660 DVD-ROM volume.

For more information, see
http://catalog.elda.org:8080/product_info.php? 
products_id=874&osCsid=2eb47737dba8e4365c4972784a235948


ELRA-S0220 NEMLAR Speech Synthesis Corpus

The NEMLAR Speech Synthesis Corpus contains the recordings of 2 native
Egyptian speakers (male and female, 35 years old) recorded in a  
studio over
2 channel (voice + laryngograph). The data collection and transcription
were performed by RDI (Egypt).

Speech samples are stored in 96 kHz, 24 bit with the least  
significant byte
first ("lohi" or Intel format) as (signed) integers.

The speaker read 2,032 prompted sentences covering approx. 42,000  
words in
three categories: transcribed speech (20%), written text (50%), and
constructed phrases (30%).

The database is provided with orthographic, prosodic and phonetic
transcriptions in SAMPA.  All transcriptions were segmented at the
utterance (sentence/command word) level, annotated at the word level and
checked manually. A pronunciation lexicon including 3,589 headwords with
phonetics in SAMPA is also available.

The database is distributed on 3 ISO 9660 DVD-ROM volumes.

For more information, see
http://catalog.elda.org:8080/product_info.php? 
products_id=875&osCsid=2eb47737dba8e4365c4972784a235948


For more information on the catalogue, please contact Val?rie Mapelli
mailto:mapelli at elda.org
Linguistic Field(s): Computational Linguistics
                      Lexicography
                      Phonetics
                      Text/Corpus Linguistics

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 23 16:15:10 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:10 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Library of Alexandria downloadable books
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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:wasamy at umich.edu
Subject:Library of Alexandria downloadable books

Here's something that might be of Interest.

The Library of Alexandria, http://www.bibalex.org/arabic/index.aspx,  
has a site, http://archive.bibalex.org/mybook/fp/, which provides  
electronic books in image format.

These books are downloadable for free.  The file format of the  
downloaded book is .DjVu.

Two sites, ?FileExt?, http://filext.com/detaillist.php? 
extdetail=djvu, and ?DjVuLibre?, http://djvulibre.djvuzone.org/, both  
provide information about this kind of file.

For Windows users, the site LizardTech, http://www.lizardtech.com/,  
provides a DjVu Browser Plug-in for Windows Internet Explorer.

I downloaded one of the books from the geographical section (Ibn  
Battuuta), and downloaded the Browser Plug-in from LizardTech.  The  
system works well.

Waheed

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 23 16:15:30 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:15:30 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:Two Ohio State Jobs
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1) Subject:Ohio State Job: Arabic Language Program Director
2) Subject:Ohio State Job: Assistant Professor of Classical Arabic

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:moderator
Subject:Ohio State Job: Arabic Language Program Director

Arabic Language Program Director

The Ohio State University, Department of Near Eastern Languages and  
Cultures (NELC), invites applications for the Director of the Arabic  
Language Program, with expertise in Arabic language instruction,  
acquisition and teaching methodology. The position is open at any  
rank: assistant, associate, or full professor, but preference will be  
given to an experienced associate professor.  The successful  
applicant will be expected to train and supervise graduate students  
in teaching elementary and intermediate Arabic; prepare proficiency- 
based teaching and testing materials and teach at the undergraduate  
and graduate levels and to supervise doctoral candidates.  Candidates  
must be engaged in an active program of research and publication.   
Requirements include native or near native fluency in Modern Standard  
Arabic; PhD in hand by September 2007, when the position begins; and  
demonstrated potential for excellence in teaching and research.

Please send a letter of application detailing research and teaching  
interests, CV, research writing sample, and names and complete  
contact information for three referees to Professor Daniel Frank,  
Search Committee Chair, Dept. of NELC, The Ohio State University, 300  
Hagerty Hall, 1775 College Road, Columbus, OH  43210-1340.

Review of applications will begin November 1, 2006 (with a view to  
preliminary interviews at MESA).

The Ohio State University is an EEO/AA.  Women, minorities, veterans,  
and individuals with disabilities are encouraged to apply.

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Date: 23 Aug 2006
From:moderator
Subject:Ohio State Job: Assistant Professor of Classical Arabic

Assistant Professor of Arabic

The Ohio State University, Department of Near Eastern Languages and  
Cultures (NELC), invites applications for a tenure-eligible assistant  
professor of Arabic, specializing in the field of Classical Arabic.   
The successful applicant will be expected to teach Classical Arabic  
language and literature at the undergraduate and graduate levels and  
to supervise doctoral candidates.  Candidates must be engaged in an  
active program of research and publication.  Requirements include a  
complete command of pre-Islamic, Qur'anic, and Medieval Arabic, as  
well as native or near native fluency in Modern Standard Arabic; PhD  
in hand by September 2007, when the position begins; and demonstrated  
potential for excellence in teaching and research.

Please send a letter of application detailing research and teaching  
interests, CV, research writing sample, and names and complete  
contact information for three referees to Professor Daniel Frank,  
Search Committee Chair, Dept. of NELC, The Ohio State University, 300  
Hagerty Hall, 1775 College Road, Columbus, OH  43210-1340.

Review of applications will begin November 1, 2006 (with a view to  
preliminary interviews at MESA).

The Ohio State University is an EEO/AA.  Women, minorities, veterans,  
and individuals with disabilities are encouraged to apply.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Sat Aug 26 21:43:34 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:43:34 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:PEDA:OPI training query
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Date: 26 Aug 2006
From:Martha Schulte-Nafeh <marthas at u.arizona.edu>
Subject:Arabic OPI training query

Is anyone aware of any Arabic OPI training planned in the near future?
I thought that there was a workshop in Nashville at this year's ACTFL  
conference but I just checked the website and there is no Arabic listed.
-- 
Peace, Martha

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From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:38:51 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:New Article
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Date: 26 Aug 2006
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Subject:New Article:A contrastive study of Arabic and English in the UAE


Publisher:	Cambridge University Press
			http://us.cambridge.org 			
			
Journal Title:  English Today
Volume Number:  22
Issue Number:  2
Issue Date:  2006

Medical Rhetoric: A contrastive study of Arabic and English in the UAE
Call Me Madam, or The Lost Key Word
Suzanne Hinton

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Sat Aug 26 21:38:55 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:38:55 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Dictionaries discussion
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Date: 26 Aug 2006
From:Raven at em.uni-frankfurt.de
Subject:Dictionaries discussion

Indeed, I do not hesitate to confirm that the Hoogland dictionaries  
of Modern Standard Arabic are now the best in the world. But these  
dictionaries will never pay, since Dutch has only 21 millions of  
speakers. How could they be created, whereas there is no such thing  
in English?
One factor was a group of competent persons who were eager to do the  
job. Maybe it mattered too that Holland and Belgium are small, which  
facilitated contacts.
The other factor was heavy state subventioning. Is the Anglosaxon  
world to deeply sunk into capitalism to make such projects possible?  
Researchers do not dare to even think of ?unrewarding? long-time  
projects, and subventions for such a revolting thing as Arabic, ...  
God forbid.

As to Wehr, did it ever strike anyone that Wehr ordered his secretary  
to simply include all lemmas from a hundred years old German  
anthology of classical (yes, old!) Arabic texts into his first German  
edition? Only the most extravagant and specialist meanings were left  
out. I am referring to the Glossary of R. Br?nnow & A. Fischer,  
Arabische Chrestomathie aus Prosaschriftstellern, many printings; now  
by Harrassowitz, Wiesbaden.

-- 
Dr. Wim Raven, Orientalisches Seminar, J.W. Goethe-Universitaet,  
Frankfurt, Germany.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Sat Aug 26 21:38:48 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:38:48 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:LIST:message from Moderator
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In the past when I have had to be out of the country for a few weeks,  
I put Arabic-L on vacation.  However, with the new server software  
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I will be out of the country for the next three weeks.  Since there  
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The other option would be to simply hold them for three weeks and  
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and see how it goes.  If you have reactions one way or another, drop  
me a line about Sep 15th when I'll be back.

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From dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU  Sat Aug 26 21:38:52 2006
From: dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:38:52 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Gilman Scholarship Application Available
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Date: 26 Aug 2006
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From Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 28 19:41:25 2006
From: Dilworth_Parkinson at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:41:25 -0600
Subject: Two new Zakaria Tamer collections in Serbian
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.134125.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

from: "Srpko Lestaric" <srpkole at EUnet.yu>

Two more collections of Syrian author Zakaria Tamer are out in  
Serbian this summer (one in June, the other in July, both in my  
translation):

(1) Nojev poziv (nidaa' nuuH [Noah's Summons]), Narodna knjiga-Alpha,
Belgrade 2006, ISBN 86-331-2795-4, 276 pg's, 21cm;

(2) Svi na kolena (taksiir rukab [Breaking the Spirits]) Narodna  
knjiga-Alpha, Belgrade 2006, ISBN 86-331-2564-1, 167 pg's, 21cm].

Both can be found (altogether with the reviews) and ordered either at
http://www.narodnaknjiga.co.yu or at http://www.knjizara.co.yu .

Regards,
Srpko Lestaric


From msyfried at PLUTO.MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL  Sun Aug 27 13:39:43 2006
From: msyfried at PLUTO.MSCC.HUJI.AC.IL (Yohanan Friedmann)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:39:43 +0300
Subject: A Dictionary of Medieaval Judaeo-Arabic Texts
Message-ID: <SUN.27.AUG.2006.163943.0300.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>


 		The Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities

 		The Academy of the Hebrew Language



 		are pleased to announce the publication of



 		"A Dictionary of Mediaeval Judaeo-Arabic Texts"

 					by


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 	Jewish culture in the Arabic-speaking lands reached one of  its 
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Mediaeval Judaeo-Arabic texts are written in Middle Arabic,  which contains 
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 	This first comprehensive dictionary of  Mediaeval Judaeo-Arabic 
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 	The Dictionary  is based largely on the works of leading Jewish 
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 	Professor Joshua Blau is a leading authority  on Judaeo-Arabic studies. 
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"Studies in Middle-Arabic and its Judaeo-Arabic Variety" (Jerusalem 1988); "The 
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From jmurg at TTLC.NET  Sat Aug 26 22:48:46 2006
From: jmurg at TTLC.NET (J Murgida)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:48:46 -0400
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Dictionaries discussion
In-Reply-To: <226A33EC-5AA4-4D4E-B5DA-8845B75799DC@byu.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.26.AUG.2006.184846.0400.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

My two cents' worth on Wehr is that I would never want to delete any archaic
lemma in an updated Arabic>English dictionary.  Just because something is
obsolete or seldom used doesn't mean you're never going to see it in modern
Arabic.  Also, because no dictionary can ever have every word anyone may
use, it really helps to have all the available meanings when one is scanning
up and down the entries of a root to try to figure out the meaning of a word
that's not in there yet.

Translators from Arabic into English do this kind of "dictionary detective
work" all the time.  I vote for keeping the old while compiling the new.
Speaking of which, didn't we have a query some months ago on what everyone
would want in a new Arabic>English dictionary?
 -- Jackie Murgida


From alex at BELLEM-HUSSEIN.DEMON.CO.UK  Mon Aug 28 11:27:44 2006
From: alex at BELLEM-HUSSEIN.DEMON.CO.UK (Alex Bellem)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:27:44 +0100
Subject: Electronic outline map of ME & N Africa
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.122744.0100.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Greetings,

I am looking for an outline map (with major towns and cities marked) of
the Middle East and North Africa - in electronic format. Does anyone
know where I could get hold of such a thing (e.g. websites with such a
map downloadable)? I have googled till my eyes goggled, and searched the
University of Texas library, but I can't find an *outline* map (I need
something that works in black and white). The reason I need to find such
a thing is to be able to map out some isoglosses (for some work on
Arabic dialect geography).

I'd be very grateful for any help with this!

Many thanks,
Alex Bellem.
-- 
Alex Bellem  
Dept of Linguistics
SOAS, University of London
alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk


From ibhims20002 at YAHOO.COM  Mon Aug 28 08:02:55 2006
From: ibhims20002 at YAHOO.COM (Dr Ibrahim Suliman Ahmed)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:02:55 -0700
Subject: Two Arabic Books ( Learning Arabic Via the Web Sites  & Arabic
 for medicale Students)
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.010255.0700.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Dear all greeting,
   
  I have published two books by research center, International Islamic University Malaysia. My two books namely are:
  1- Learning Arabic via the Web Sites (In Arabic Language)
  2- Arabic for Medical Students (In Arabic Language)
   Learning Arabic Via the Web Sites book   discussed many issues  (e.g. Computer in Education, History of CALL, Internet in Education, The Theoretical framework of Computer / Internet in Education, The role of the Arabic Language Teacher, Factors affecting the integration of Arabic Language Software into Arabic Language Class, How to integrate Arabic Language Software into Arabic Language Class, Development of an analysis criteria of Arabic Language Sites, The author evaluated and analysis Twenty Fifth (25) Arabic Language Websites ( Programmers ) via the Web sites. The Book ended with abstract Conclusion and Suggestions
   
  - Arabic for Medical Students book has many lessons related to Medicine (e.g. Human organs, the diseases In the Doctor?s clinic, The Computer, Physiology, and many issues related to medicine as well as Arabic culture and many other different topics. 
  Those who interested may contact me
   
  Thank You in anticipation
   
   
     
   



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From raven at EM.UNI-FRANKFURT.DE  Mon Aug 28 13:16:26 2006
From: raven at EM.UNI-FRANKFURT.DE (Wim Raven)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:16:26 +0200
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Dictionaries discussion
In-Reply-To: <226A33EC-5AA4-4D4E-B5DA-8845B75799DC@byu.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.151626.0200.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Since some subscribers encouraged me privately to clarify my accusation 
that Wehr in his Arabic-German/English dictionary dealt with ancient 
words from an unmentioned source, I will do so.

In my classes of classical (old!) Arabic texts, I use Rudolph Ernst 
Br?nnow & August Fischer, Arabische Chrestomathie aus 
Prosaschriftstellern, 3d. ed. Leipzig 1924, 7th ed. Wiesbaden 1988. 
This book has an Arabic-German glossary, which is useful for the 
students, since there is no reliable Classical Arabic-German 
dictionary. When the glossary is not satisfying, or the German words 
are simply outdated, we look into the German edition of Wehr as well. 
And there I have been struck at many occasions by the verbatim 
similarity of the renderings. But Wehr does not mention Br?nnow-Fischer 
among his ?secondary sources?. Had he done so, it would not have looked 
good, since Br?nnow-Fischer contains only age-old texts.

Of course, akala means ?to eat?, in all dictionaries. But when the 
rendering is a bit longer, the similarities are obvious.
Some examples:

- tah.annatha means according to Br?nnow-Fischer's Glossar: 
Ents?ndigung, religi?se L?uterung suchen.
- In the German Wehr, 5th edition, I read: Frommigkeit ?ben; 
Ents?ndigung, religi?se L?uterung suchen; der S?nde widerstehen, der 
S?nde nicht nachgeben.
- In Wehr/Cowan, 3d ed., this was translated into English: to practice 
piety, perform works of devotion; to seek religious purification; to 
scorn sin, not yield to sin.
Now this word goes back to only ONE old prose text from the 8th 
century. Its meaning was unclear already in the 9th century and it is 
until now. (About tah.annatha see M. Kister, ?Al-tah.annuth: an enquiry 
into the meaning of a term,? BSOAS 31 (1968), p. 223-236.)
Br?nnow-Fischer ventured a meaning; Wehr took it over and ?knew? even 
more.
Apart from not mentioning his source in his introduction, Wehr made two 
more mistakes here: 1) fantasizing     2) making us believe, this 
obscure word is ?modern written Arabic? and frequent enough to deserve 
a place in a dictionary.


A far more frequent, but equally obscure word:
- h.an?f means according to Br?nnow-Fischer's Glossar: jmd. der statt 
e. ihn umgebenden falschen d. wahre Religion bekennt.
- German Wehr, 5th edition: Rechtgl?ubiger; e-r der statt der ihn 
umgebenden falschen die wahre Religion bekennt, etc.
- Wehr/Cowan, 3d ed.: true believer, orthodox; one who scorns the false 
creeds surrounding him and professes the true religion, etc.
This word is from the Koran. It should be in Wehr, all right, since it 
is quoted in many modern texts. It is obvious that Wehr copied B/F's 
loquacious and rather ?theologizing? circumscription of the meaning 
almost verbatim. The meaning: true believer, orthodox cannot be used 
outside a koranic context. No modern Arab would call himself or a 
fellow Arab h.an?f when he means true believer.


Another interesting case is found under the root ?srr :
- Br?nnow-Fischer: V tasarr? (neben tasarrara) c. bi  mul.: zur 
Beischl?ferin (surriyya) nehmen.
- German Wehr: V tasarr? (neben tasarrara) (bi od. h? eine Frau) zur 
Konkubine (surriyya) nehmen, als Geliebte haben.
Wehr/Cowan: V tasarr? (and tasarrara) to take (bi or h? a woman) as 
concubine (surriyya).
In the German Wehr, only the word Beischl?ferin was replaced by the 
somewhat chaster and/or modern word Konkubine. Both works enter this 
lemma under the root ?srr instead of ?sry, although they apparently 
consider ?sry primary. (In ancient dictionaries, it does occur under 
both roots.)

Etcetera. Please, give us new dictionaries!

Wim Raven
-------------------------------------------------------

Dr. Wim Raven
Orientalisches Seminar
J.W. Goethe-Universit?t
Senkenberganlage 31
60325 Frankfurt, Germany


From dil at BYU.EDU  Mon Aug 28 23:00:34 2006
From: dil at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:00:34 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Messages
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.170034.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

I sent the first batch of messages out the new way just now.  What I  
found out is that the messages are not labeled as Arabic-L messages  
in the subject at all, and the sender is listed as the person who  
originally sent the message.  If you want to know for sure that it is  
an Arabic-L message, you would need to look on the 'To:' line of the  
header, where it should say: ARABIC-L at listerv.byu.edu.

Again, this will change back to normal after Sep. 15.  Sorry for the  
inconvenience.

Dil


From dil at BYU.EDU  Tue Aug 29 01:52:21 2006
From: dil at BYU.EDU (Dilworth Parkinson)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:52:21 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Message Headers
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.195221.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Could I suggest that people sending messages to Arabic-L in the next  
3 weeks include the word Arabic_L in the subject line so that people  
can know at a glance that it is an Arabic-L message?  Thanks.
dil


From fawm at UCHICAGO.EDU  Mon Aug 28 22:32:48 2006
From: fawm at UCHICAGO.EDU (fawm at UCHICAGO.EDU)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:32:48 -0500
Subject: Arabic-L:LING:Dictionaries discussion
Message-ID: <MON.28.AUG.2006.173248.0500.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

WQhatever happened to our policy of not having attachments?
Farouk


From alex at BELLEM-HUSSEIN.DEMON.CO.UK  Tue Aug 29 15:03:21 2006
From: alex at BELLEM-HUSSEIN.DEMON.CO.UK (Alex Bellem)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:03:21 +0100
Subject: Arabic-L: Electronic outline map of ME & N Africa
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20060829034545.033447a0@postoffice9.mail.cornell.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.29.AUG.2006.160321.0100.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Greetings again,

I just wanted to thank you all for the several speedy responses I've had
- looks like I'm not the only map-needer. The resource mentioned by
Nimat Barazangi is great. It needs a Java-enabled machine (so I haven't
tried it yet), but this mapping tool means that we can create our own
maps, which is extremely useful for dialect geographies (and may even
turn some of us into amateur cartographers!).

Best,
A.


In message <6.2.1.2.2.20060829034545.033447a0 at postoffice9.mail.cornell.e
du>, Nimat Hafez Barazangi <nhb2 at cornell.edu> writes
>    Check 
>    ?
>    http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/?????? go to? 
>    http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/projects.html
>    ?
>    and/ or
>
>    http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/webmap/
>
>    Best wishes,
>    Nimat
>
>
>
>
>
>    At 07:27 AM 8/28/2006, Alex Bellem wrote:
>>       Greetings,
>
>>       I am looking for an outline map (with major towns and cities 
>>       marked) of the Middle East and North Africa - in electronic
format. Does anyone
>>       know where I could get hold of such a thing (e.g. websites with 
>>       such a
>>       map downloadable)? I have googled till my eyes goggled, and 
>>       searched the
>>       University of Texas library, but I can't find an *outline* map 
>>       (I need
>>       something that works in black and white). The reason I need to 
>>       find such
>>       a thing is to be able to map out some isoglosses (for some work 
>>       on
>>       Arabic dialect geography).
>
>>       I'd be very grateful for any help with this!
>
>>       Many thanks,
>>       Alex Bellem.
>

-- 
Alex Bellem  
Dept of Linguistics
SOAS, University of London
alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk


From glampe at NFLC.ORG  Tue Aug 29 14:25:46 2006
From: glampe at NFLC.ORG (Lampe, Gerald)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:25:46 -0400
Subject: Arabic-L: Electronic outline map of ME & N Africa
Message-ID: <TUE.29.AUG.2006.102546.0400.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Alex Bellem may want to check out www.mapresources.com
<http://www.mapresources.com/>  for a map of the Middle East and North
Africa in outline format. He or a graphic designer can modify it to suit
his needs. 

 

Jerry Lampe

National Foreign Language Center

 

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From Talaat.Pasha at UTAH.EDU  Tue Aug 29 21:12:47 2006
From: Talaat.Pasha at UTAH.EDU (Talaat Pasha)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:12:47 -0600
Subject: help: teaching reading in Arabic_ Arabic -L
Message-ID: <TUE.29.AUG.2006.151247.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

 

Salamaat all,

I wonder if anyone has taught intermediate/ advanced course in reading in Arabic. I would appreciate any suggestions/ idea of the material, textbooks, if any etc. I would like to introduce the students to various genres of written Arabic: classical, modern, short stories, media, literature etc. 

Any ideas are very welcome,

 

Talaat


From nhb2 at CORNELL.EDU  Tue Aug 29 07:58:18 2006
From: nhb2 at CORNELL.EDU (Nimat Hafez Barazangi)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:58:18 -0400
Subject: Electronic outline map of ME & N Africa
In-Reply-To: <++25B1AwMt8EFwf2@bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.29.AUG.2006.035818.0400.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Check

http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/       go 
to  http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/projects.html

and/ or

http://atlas.geo.cornell.edu/webmap/

Best wishes,
Nimat





At 07:27 AM 8/28/2006, Alex Bellem wrote:
>Greetings,
>
>I am looking for an outline map (with major towns and cities marked) of
>the Middle East and North Africa - in electronic format. Does anyone
>know where I could get hold of such a thing (e.g. websites with such a
>map downloadable)? I have googled till my eyes goggled, and searched the
>University of Texas library, but I can't find an *outline* map (I need
>something that works in black and white). The reason I need to find such
>a thing is to be able to map out some isoglosses (for some work on
>Arabic dialect geography).
>
>I'd be very grateful for any help with this!
>
>Many thanks,
>Alex Bellem.
>--
>Alex Bellem
>Dept of Linguistics
>SOAS, University of London
>alex at bellem-hussein.demon.co.uk

Nimat Hafez Barazangi (Dr.)
Research Fellow
Feminist, Gender, and Sexuality Studies
391 Uris Hall
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY 14853, USA

(607) 257-4199
http://www.upf.com/book.asp?id=BARAZF04  
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From dil at BYU.EDU  Wed Aug 30 21:44:44 2006
From: dil at BYU.EDU (Dilworth B Parkinson)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:44:44 -0600
Subject: Arabic-L:GEN:Attachments
Message-ID: <WED.30.AUG.2006.154444.0600.>

With the system I am using for the next two weeks I cant tell if there are attachments.  Sorry if some got through.
dil


From weninger at STAFF.UNI-MARBURG.DE  Thu Aug 31 11:49:52 2006
From: weninger at STAFF.UNI-MARBURG.DE (=?UTF-8?Q?Stefan_Weninger?=)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:49:52 -0600
Subject: Professorships at Marburg
Message-ID: <THU.31.AUG.2006.054952.0600.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Dear Listmembers,

I would like to draw your attention to the following job advertisment: For
the foundation of its Centre for Near and Middle Eastern Studies (CNMS)
Philipps-Universit?t Marburg (Germany) invites applications for the
following positions to be appointed for the summer term 2007:

Professor for Economics of the Near and Middle East
Professor for Politics of the Near and Middle East
Professor for Arabic Studies
Professor for Iranian Studies

Please cf. the details on the following web-site:
http://www.uni-marburg.de/cnms/aktuelles/ausschreibung

Applications must be received by 29 September 2006.

Sincerely,
Stefan Weninger


From maabdelw at PURDUE.EDU  Thu Aug 31 00:31:29 2006
From: maabdelw at PURDUE.EDU (maabdelw at PURDUE.EDU)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:31:29 -0400
Subject: help: teaching reading in Arabic_ Arabic -L
In-Reply-To: <CE29A77893D8C14AA28F2666736BD905089402@CAMPUSV3.xds.umail.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.30.AUG.2006.203129.0400.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Hi Talaat
    Try  Fi Tallum al arabiyyah, but since  this textbook has some 
shortcomings, you may need to get the stuff you wanted from the internet and 
edit it in such away that fits the level of your students

       try Juha'a anecdotes in the internet. they are lively and appealing to 
students.  I write to my students what i remember from my elementary school
 The two rooster   the peasant and the land, the burried treasure. I;m  afraid 
these short stories are not available on the internet, Since students love 
funny yet instructive stuff, it might be a good idea to try 

   Good luck M wali
Quoting Talaat Pasha <Talaat.Pasha at UTAH.EDU>:

>  
> 
> Salamaat all,
> 
> I wonder if anyone has taught intermediate/ advanced course in reading in
> Arabic. I would appreciate any suggestions/ idea of the material, textbooks,
> if any etc. I would like to introduce the students to various genres of
> written Arabic: classical, modern, short stories, media, literature etc. 
> 
> Any ideas are very welcome,
> 
>  
> 
> Talaat
> 
> 


From saharmhy at AUCEGYPT.EDU  Thu Aug 31 08:09:01 2006
From: saharmhy at AUCEGYPT.EDU (saharmhy)
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 08:09:01 +0000
Subject: help: teaching reading in Arabic_ Arabic -L
Message-ID: <THU.31.AUG.2006.080901.0000.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Good Morning,

There are two text books which you can teach for Intermediate/Advanced MSA there is El Kitaab El Assassy Dr. El Said Badawy Part 2 and 3, also there is El Kitaab fi Taluum El Laghaee el Arabia Mahmoud El Batal & etal Part 2 and 3, also you can use newspapers, short stories by Youssef Idris, El Tayeb Saleh and also Arabic magazines.  These materials work very well in class also giving students texts to translate help them to enrich their vocabulary.

Salaam
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> 
> 
> Salamaat all,
> 
> I wonder if anyone has taught intermediate/ advanced course in reading in Arabic. I would appreciate any suggestions/ idea of the material, textbooks, if any etc. I would like to introduce the students to various genres of written Arabic: classical, modern, short stories, media, literature etc. 
> 
> Any ideas are very welcome,
> 
> 
> 
> Talaat
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From emailghassan at YAHOO.COM  Thu Aug 31 00:37:18 2006
From: emailghassan at YAHOO.COM (Ghassan Husseinali)
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:37:18 -0700
Subject: help: teaching reading in Arabic_ Arabic -L
In-Reply-To: <CE29A77893D8C14AA28F2666736BD905089402@CAMPUSV3.xds.umail.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.30.AUG.2006.173718.0700.ARABICL@LISTSERV.BYU.EDU>

Salaam Talaat,
   
  Check out a new book compiled by Bassm Frengieh published by Yale Press . The name of the book is "Anthology o f Arabic Literature, Culture, and Thought form Pre-Islamic Times to Present". It has 70 readings of many genres such as political speaches, Hadiths, Poetry, Literary Criticism, Biographies, etc spanning from Pre-Islamic period till present.
   
  Ghassan 

Talaat Pasha <Talaat.Pasha at UTAH.EDU> wrote:
  

Salamaat all,

I wonder if anyone has taught intermediate/ advanced course in reading in Arabic. I would appreciate any suggestions/ idea of the material, textbooks, if any etc. I would like to introduce the students to various genres of written Arabic: classical, modern, short stories, media, literature etc. 

Any ideas are very welcome,



Talaat


 		
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