Arabic-L:LING:'wrong note' responses

Dilworth Parkinson dilworth_parkinson at BYU.EDU
Mon Oct 2 23:34:25 UTC 2006


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Date: 02 Oct 2006
From:"karam Tannous" <ktannous at gmail.com>
Subject:'wrong note' response

"Nashaz" may be the word you are looking for 'playing wrong not'

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Date: 02 Oct 2006
From:Amr Helmy IBRAHIM <amr.ibrahim at free.fr>
Subject:'wrong note' response


I think the verb for playing a wrong note is "nachaza".
It cannot be used with the generic meaning of " 'akhta'a" although it  
can is
basically used to mean a kind of violation of the commonly admitted  
rules.

Amr Helmy IBRAHIM

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Date: 02 Oct 2006
From:Farouk Mustafa <fawm at uchicago.edu>
Subject:'wrong note' response

nashaz might be the word you are looking for.
Farouk Mustafa

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4)
Date: 02 Oct 2006
From: "Alexis Neme" <alexis.neme at gmail.com>
Subject:'wrong note' response

Dear Glenn,

In Modern Arabic, we say "nashAz" for "playing out of tune(melody)"
or "to be (wrongly) out of the unanimity of a community or an
orchestra".
Maybe this can help you in your research (or not)!!!

Regards,

Alexis

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5)
Date: 02 Oct 2006
From:maabdelw at purdue.edu
Subject:'wrong note' response

  Yes There are a few words that fit these phrase " out of harmony or  
"to make
cocophony"

       Alhaan mutanaferah- the noun is tanaafur
       Alhan shaathah     The noun shuthuth
       Alhaan mukhtalatah  The noun Ikhtilaat or Imtizaaj
       alhan sakhibah or    The noun Dhajeej or sakhab
       or nashaaz fi allahn
  I hope this helps            mohammad  wali

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6)
Date: 02 Oct 2006
From:aak at uwm.edu
Subject:'wrong note' response

  Dear Glen:

I think the word you are looking for is "Nashaaz" meaning discord (in  
melody)

Ahmed Kraima

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7)
Date: 02 Oct 2006
From:Karin Ryding <rydingk at georgetown.edu>
Subject:'wrong note' response

There is, of course, the root laam-Haa'-nuun, l-H-n, which is used  
extensively in medieval commentaries on language, laHn meaning both  
"grammatical mistake, solecism" and "tune, melody."  This is somewhat  
different from what you are looking for, a root that means "play a  
wrong note."  Perhaps others will be able to contribute more in-depth  
comment on the concept of laHn.
Karin Ryding, Georgetown University

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