Arabic-L:LING:Dropping of tanwiin responses

[Dilworth Parkinson]

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Date: 23 May 2008
From:Michael Fishbein <fishbein at humnet.ucla.edu>
Subject:Dropping of tanwiin response

Regarding George Maschke's question about the pronunciation of tanwin- 
fathah as long a in pause in oratory: According to Wright's Grammar,  
this pronunciation is the recommended one for poetry and in reciting  
the Koran (at the end of an ayah or in pause). As far as I can tell,  
It is rarely used in reading prose, except by readers who have had a  
traditional Islamic education, including a thorough grounding in the  
rules of tajwid; which, I suppose, Bin Laden had. Perhaps it is  
avoided by most readers because of the difficulty of distinguishing an  
unaccented long a from the short a that is the pausal form of the ta'  
marbutah for most speakers, since the older pausal form of -ah is  
rarely used. The pausal form in long a may lie behind such colloquial  
forms as marHaba(a) and Haqqa(a), for marHaban and Haqqan.

The relevant paragraphs in Wright's Grammar are Volume II, paragraph  
225 (page 369B) and paragraph 227 (page 370C).

Michael Fishbein, Lecturer in Arabic
Dept. of Near Eastern Languages & Cultures
366 Humanities Building, UCLA
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1511
tel. 310 206-2229

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Date: 23 May 2008
From:Marc Van Mol <Mark.VanMol at ilt.kuleuven.be>
Subject:Dropping of tanwiin response

Hi,

About the dropping of tanwin in oratory (aydan - aydaa), I can only  
confirm that is was commonly pronounced that way in our corpus of news  
broadcasts that we have sampled in 1980 and the one sampled in 1990,  
but as far as I can remember only at the end of sentences and more  
specifically in Egypt. I do not recall hearing that kind of  
pronunciation in the Algerian or Saudi corpus, which might mean that  
it is limited to local language situations.

Best regards,

Mark

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Date: 23 May 2008
From:"Dr. M Deeb" <muhammaddeeb at gmail.com>
Subject:Dropping of tanwiin response

In principle, the pausal reading of the final word in a sentence or a
clause is a matter of common practice, both in ordinary parlance and
oratorial reading.

(1) / إلى الله ترجع الأمورُ /

(2) / ًوما ينبغي للرحمن أن يتخذ ولدا /

(3) /  ٍوقوم إبراهيم وقوم لوط  /


The full reading of the excerpts from the Qur'an, above, ends with
('umuuru), (waladan) & (LuuTin); whilst the pausal reading ends with a
sukuuned final letter.

-- 
M. Deeb, Professor Emeritus,
English, Comparative Literature & Cultural St

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Date: 23 May 2008
From:Dil Parkinson <dil at byu.edu>
Subject:Dropping of tanwiin response

The long a reading is the technically correct form.  My informants in  
Egypt, however, clearly regarded it as marking something extra in  
either formality or the showing off of ones knowledge of fusha.  One  
referred to it (and other similar phenomena) as fusha fusha, as  
opposed to just plain lugha 'arabiyya, or plain fusha.

dil


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