<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Arabic-L: Wed 10 Oct 2007</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Moderator: Dilworth Parkinson <<A href="mailto:dilworth_parkinson@byu.edu">dilworth_parkinson@byu.edu</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">[To post messages to the list, send them to <A href="mailto:arabic-l@byu.edu">arabic-l@byu.edu</A>]</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">[To unsubscribe, send message from same address you subscribed from to</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="mailto:listserv@byu.edu">listserv@byu.edu</A> with first line reading:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> unsubscribe arabic-l ]</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-------------------------Directory------------------------------------</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1) Subject:Translation Course input</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">2) Subject:Translation Course input</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">3) Subject:Translation Course input</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-------------------------Messages-----------------------------------</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Date: 10 Oct 2007</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From:Haroon Shirwani <<A href="mailto:arabictutor@hotmail.com">arabictutor@hotmail.com</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject:Translation Course input</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3px;">This is the must-have list of books for students of Arabic-English translation, with the most essential first:</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 16px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thinking-Arabic-Translation-Course-English/dp/041525065X/ref=pd_rhf_f_t_3/203-2358617-2160728?ie=UTF8&qid=1187871763&sr=1-5"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3px;">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Th<FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000AF1">inking-Arabic-Translation-Course-English/dp/041525065X/ref=pd_rhf_f_t_3/203-2358617-2160728?ie=UTF8&qid=</FONT><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#000AF1">1187871763&sr=1-5</FONT></SPAN></FONT></A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 16px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/English-Arabic-Arabic-English-Translation-Practical-Guide/dp/0863563414/ref=sr_1_7/203-2358617-2160728?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187871763&sr=1-7"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3px;">http://www.amazon.co.uk/English-Arabic-Arabic-English-Translation-Practical-Guide/dp/0863563414/ref=sr_1_7/203-2358617-2160728?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187871763&sr=1-7</SPAN></FONT></A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 16px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Other-Words-Coursebook-Translation/dp/0415030862/ref=pd_rhf_f_t_1/203-2358617-2160728?ie=UTF8&qid=1187871763&sr=1-5"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3px;">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Other-Words-Coursebook-Translation/dp/0415030862/ref=pd_rhf_f_t_1/203-2358617-2160728?ie=UTF8&qid=1187871763&sr=1-5</SPAN></FONT></A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 16px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Translation-Advanced-Resource-Routledge-Linguistics/dp/041528306X/ref=sr_1_1/203-2358617-2160728?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187871811&sr=1-1"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3px;">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Translation-Advanced-Resource-Routledge-Linguistics/dp/041528306X/ref=sr_1_1/203-2358617-2160728?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187871811&sr=1-1</SPAN></FONT></A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13.3px/normal Tahoma; min-height: 16px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Communication-Across-Cultures-Translation-Contrastive/dp/0859894975/ref=sr_1_5/203-2358617-2160728?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187871763&sr=1-5"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3px;">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Communication-Across-Cultures-Translation-Contrastive/dp/0859894975/ref=sr_1_5/203-2358617-2160728?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187871763&sr=1-5</SPAN></FONT></A></DIV><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3px;"> </SPAN></FONT></P><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3px;">Best wishes,</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3px;">Haroon</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13.3px;"><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">2)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Date: 10 Oct 2007</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From:"John Joseph Colangelo" <<A href="mailto:yaacolangelo@hotmail.com">yaacolangelo@hotmail.com</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject:Translation Course input</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hi Ghassan,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">What exactly do you mean by "input"? Do you mean experience by professors who have previously taught translation?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">In the Univ. Granada, our translation teachers bring texts to class and we start working on them, no course books, no theory. The teacher who is a professional translator and interpreter corrects our work.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">John</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">3)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Date: 10 Oct 2007</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From:a elsherif <<A href="mailto:alarish5@yahoo.co.uk">alarish5@yahoo.co.uk</A>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject:Translation Course input</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times New Arabic" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">Hi </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times New Arabic" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">Try this book THINKING ARABIC TRANSLATION by JAMES DICKINS,SANDOR HERVEY ISBN 0-415-25065-X.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times New Arabic" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">also ENGLISH-ARABIC/ARABIC-ENGLISH TRANSLATION by BASIL HATIM </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times New Arabic" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;"> ISBN 0-86356-155-1</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" face="Times New Arabic" size="4"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px;">Elshareif</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">End of Arabic-L: 10 Oct 2007</DIV></BODY></HTML>