<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Arabic-L: Mon 11 Feb 2008</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Moderator: Dilworth Parkinson <<a href="mailto:dilworth_parkinson@byu.edu">dilworth_parkinson@byu.edu</a>></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">[To post messages to the list, send them to <a href="mailto:arabic-l@byu.edu">arabic-l@byu.edu</a>]</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">[To unsubscribe, send message from same address you subscribed from to</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:listserv@byu.edu">listserv@byu.edu</a> with first line reading:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> unsubscribe arabic-l ]</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-------------------------Directory------------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1) Subject:arabiyyuuna query</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1) Subject:arabiyyuuna response</div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-------------------------Messages-----------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Date: 11 Feb 2008</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From:<a href="mailto:Michael.Schub@trincoll.edu">Michael.Schub@trincoll.edu</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject:arabiyyuuna?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; ">Hi Dil,<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span> Do you have any examples of /`arabiyyuuna/ or /`arabiyyiina/ in your corpus? Thank you and best wishes,<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span> Mike Schub</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">2)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Date: 11 Feb 2008</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From:Dil Parkinson <<a href="mailto:dil@byu.edu">dil@byu.edu</a>></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject:arabiyyuuna?</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">In the entire corpus (almost 75 million words), there are only two I could find, both from the Ahram, 1999. Remember the program gives 10 words before and 10 after, so these are not complete sentences:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: right; font: normal normal normal 18px/normal 'Geeza Pro'; ">* قضية الانتماء: تذبذت قضية الانتماء فنحن أحيانا قوميون عربيون وأحيانا مصريون وأحيانا افريقيون وأحيانا عدم انحيازيين وأحيانا اسلاميون... الخ</div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: right; font: normal normal normal 18px/normal 'Geeza Pro'; min-height: 21px; "><br></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; text-align: right; font: normal normal normal 18px/normal 'Geeza Pro'; ">برئاسة لطفي الخولي مدرسة صحفية متميزة، وتخرج فيها اجيال مصريون وعربيون من ألمع الكتاب والصحفيين والروائيين وكتاب القصة والنقد الأدبي والفني.</div><div style="text-align: right;"><br></div><div style="text-align: left;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Times">For those who cannot read the Arabic, the first is talking about us being nationalists: naHnu 'aHyaanan qawmiyyuun 'arabiyyuun w'aHyaanan miSriyyuun ...</font></div><div style="text-align: left;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Times"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></font></div><div style="text-align: left;"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Times">the second is about a school from which graduated: 'ajyaal miSriyyuun wa'arabiyyuun min 'alma' al-kuttaab w-al-SuHufiyyiin...</font></div><div style="text-align: right;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="text-align: right;"><div style="text-align: left;direction: ltr; ">It is possible that this unusual usage is caused by a desire to fit the pattern of other plurals in the list for alliterative purposes? Anyone else have a speculation?</div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="5"><div style="text-align: left;direction: ltr; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; ">dil</span></div></font></div>
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