<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Arabic-L: Fri 27 Jun 2008</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Moderator: Dilworth Parkinson <<a href="mailto:dilworth_parkinson@byu.edu">dilworth_parkinson@byu.edu</a>></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">[To post messages to the list, send them to <a href="mailto:arabic-l@byu.edu">arabic-l@byu.edu</a>]</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">[To unsubscribe, send message from same address you subscribed from to</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:listserv@byu.edu">listserv@byu.edu</a> with first line reading:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> unsubscribe arabic-l ]</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-------------------------Directory------------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1) Subject:reaction to the word 'mozza'</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-------------------------Messages-----------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Date: 27 Jun 2008</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From:moderator</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject:reaction to the word 'mozza'</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; ">[I received this, not as a post to Arabic-L. However, although I have heard the word used, I realized that I wasn't really aware of the meanings or implications of this word, and why some appear to be offended by it. Can any native speakers out there illuminate us non-natives on the background/etymology/sociolinguistics of this word? --dil]</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">اعلان الحرب على كلمة مزة</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">للأسف كلمة مزة بقت سلاح بيستخدم ضد المرأة في مصر. خلاص الجنس الأنثوي كله بقى بيصنف على انه مزة, والكلمة بقت على كل لسان وكل الأعمار والمستويات والطبقات الاجتماعية بتستخدمها. مزة كلمة مقززة, ليها معنى جنسي, وهدفها اختزال المرأة في جسمها والتحقير من شأنها وفرض مكانة دونية ليها ف المجتمع</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">مش ممكن نطالب بحقوق مرأة أو ان الست في مصر توصل لمناصب قيادية وهي مجرد مزة! مين هينتخب مزة عشان تمثله ف البرلمان؟ مين هيروح لدكتورة مزة عشان تعالجه؟ مين هيحترم استاذة مزة بتدرسله؟ ازاي المجتمع هيعاملنا ياحترام وياخدنا بجدية واحنا واقفين نتفرج عليه وهو بيخترعلنا اسم جديد وبيفرضه علينا بكل وسيلة وفي كل مكان؟</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">لازم كل ست وكل بنت بتحترم آدميتها ترفض ان يتقال عليها مزة </span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">لازم نقف في وجه المجتمع الذكوري ونمنعه من اختزالنا في مجرد اجساد</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">لازم كل واحدة تعلن انها انسان نوعها امرأة, مش مزة</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">لازم كل واحدة تدافع عن كرامتها وتقول أنا مش مزة</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">دعوة لشطب هذه الكلمة البذيئة المحقرة من شأن المرأة من قاموسنا العامي المصري, وتصنيفها باعتبارها كلمة بذيئة</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">نحن نعترض على استخدام هذه الكلمة في الاعلام و الاغاني و الافلام</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">يجب ان تلقى المرأة المصرية الاحترام الذي تستحقه وألا تستسلم لعنف المجتمع وممارساته القمعية ومحاولة اذلالها وامتهانها وتشييئها</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">شاركونا جميعا لنعلنها صريحة: المرأة= انسان نوعه انثى</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">المرأة المصرية ليست مزة</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">بالبلدي.. أنا مش مزة </span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">End of Arabic-L: 27 Jun 2008</div></div></div></div></div></body></html>