<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Arabic-L: Fri 27 Jun 2008</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Moderator: Dilworth Parkinson <<a href="mailto:dilworth_parkinson@byu.edu">dilworth_parkinson@byu.edu</a>></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">[To post messages to the list, send them to <a href="mailto:arabic-l@byu.edu">arabic-l@byu.edu</a>]</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">[To unsubscribe, send message from same address you subscribed from to</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:listserv@byu.edu">listserv@byu.edu</a> with first line reading:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> unsubscribe arabic-l ]</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-------------------------Directory------------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1) Subject:reaction to the word 'mozza'</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">-------------------------Messages-----------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">1)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Date: 27 Jun 2008</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">From:moderator</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Subject:reaction to the word 'mozza'</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; ">[I received this, not as a post to Arabic-L. However, although I have heard the word used, I realized that I wasn't really aware of the meanings or implications of this word, and why some appear to be offended by it. Can any native speakers out there illuminate us non-natives on the background/etymology/sociolinguistics of this word? --dil]</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">اعلان الØرب على كلمة مزة</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">للأس٠كلمة مزة بقت Ø³Ù„Ø§Ø Ø¨ÙŠØ³ØªØ®Ø¯Ù… ضد المرأة ÙÙŠ مصر. خلاص الجنس الأنثوي كله بقى بيصن٠على انه مزة, والكلمة بقت على كل لسان وكل الأعمار والمستويات والطبقات الاجتماعية بتستخدمها. مزة كلمة مقززة, ليها معنى جنسي, وهدÙها اختزال المرأة ÙÙŠ جسمها والتØقير من شأنها ÙˆÙرض مكانة دونية ليها ٠المجتمع</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">مش ممكن نطالب بØقوق مرأة أو ان الست ÙÙŠ مصر توصل لمناصب قيادية وهي مجرد مزة! مين هينتخب مزة عشان تمثله ٠البرلمان؟ مين Ù‡ÙŠØ±ÙˆØ Ù„Ø¯ÙƒØªÙˆØ±Ø© مزة عشان تعالجه؟ مين هيØترم استاذة مزة بتدرسله؟ ازاي المجتمع هيعاملنا ياØترام وياخدنا بجدية واØنا واقÙين نتÙرج عليه وهو بيخترعلنا اسم جديد وبيÙرضه علينا بكل وسيلة ÙˆÙÙŠ كل مكان؟</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">لازم كل ست وكل بنت بتØترم آدميتها ترÙض ان يتقال عليها مزة </span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">لازم نق٠ÙÙŠ وجه المجتمع الذكوري ونمنعه من اختزالنا ÙÙŠ مجرد اجساد</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">لازم كل واØدة تعلن انها انسان نوعها امرأة, مش مزة</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">لازم كل واØدة تداÙع عن كرامتها وتقول أنا مش مزة</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">دعوة لشطب هذه الكلمة البذيئة المØقرة من شأن المرأة من قاموسنا العامي المصري, وتصنيÙها باعتبارها كلمة بذيئة</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">Ù†ØÙ† نعترض على استخدام هذه الكلمة ÙÙŠ الاعلام Ùˆ الاغاني Ùˆ الاÙلام</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">يجب ان تلقى المرأة المصرية الاØترام الذي تستØقه وألا تستسلم لعن٠المجتمع وممارساته القمعية ومØاولة اذلالها وامتهانها وتشييئها</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">شاركونا جميعا لنعلنها صريØØ©: المرأة= انسان نوعه انثى</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">المرأة المصرية ليست مزة</span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'Geeza Pro'" size="4"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 14px;">بالبلدي.. أنا مش مزة </span></font></div><div style="direction: rtl;margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">--------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">End of Arabic-L: 27 Jun 2008</div></div></div></div></div></body></html>