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Date: 09 Jun 2010
From:<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; white-space: normal; "><<a href="mailto:rajaa.aquil@modlangs.gatech.edu">rajaa.aquil@modlangs.gatech.edu</a>></span>
Subject:marra
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 16px; white-space: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Hi Ben,</div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I will refer to the examples in Egyptian Arabic... in my intuition and the intuition of those native speakers I asekd (at the moment only 3 but can ask more), I would say focus is at play here... with the الضمير العائد . Those I asked said both work but the ones that has the preposition and resumptive pronoun is better? When asked why better? The answer was given with gestural indication and it is focus and specification.</div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">However, I would also like to introduce another dimension and that it is the preposition and not necessarily the resumptive pronoun. In one you use the preposition and in the other you don't. Prepositions in Cognitive Linguistics are very nicely explained in temrs of domain, trajectory and instrument. So perhpas in the phrases where the preposition is missing, the reason would be thinking of مرة as a whole domain and not part of.</div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Your questions is interesting and will definitely keep me busy. Thanks for sharing it with us all.</div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> </p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Rajaa</div><div><br></div></span>
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