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<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Arabic-L: Thu 03 Oct 2013</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Moderator: Dilworth Parkinson <</span><a href="mailto:dilworth_parkinson@byu.edu" style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">dilworth_parkinson@byu.edu</a><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">></span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">



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<br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">1) Subject: </span><font face="arial, sans-serif">Video to help with trilled 'r'</font><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">



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<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">1)</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Date: </span><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">03 Oct 2013</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">



<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">From: </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Kevin Burnham <<a href="mailto:kburnham@gmail.com" target="_blank">kburnham@gmail.com</a>></span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">


<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Subject: </span><font face="arial, sans-serif">Video to help with trilled 'r'</font><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">



<br><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Hey Uri,</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">The University of Iowa phonetics website (</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><a href="http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/#" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px" target="_blank">http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/#</a><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">) might have what he is looking</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">for.  The Spanish [r] is, I believe, identical to the Arabic one.</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">K</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><br><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">------------------------------</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">------------------------------</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">--------------</span><div>


<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">2)</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Date: </span><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">03 Oct 2013</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">


<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">From: </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Seham <<a href="mailto:sehamelkareh@gmail.com" target="_blank">sehamelkareh@gmail.com</a>></span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">


<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Subject: </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Video to help with trilled 'r'</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">


</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ghuo1rv_e8&desktop_uri=%2fwatch%3fv%3d_ghuo1rv_e8" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px" target="_blank">http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_ghuo1rv_e8&desktop_uri=%2fwatch%3fv%3d_ghuo1rv_e8</a><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">I think IT is a good video</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><br><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">------------------------------</span><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">------------------------------</span><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">--------------</span><div>


<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">3)</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Date: </span><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">03 Oct 2013</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">


<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">From: </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Paul Roochnik <<a href="mailto:proochnik@gmail.com" target="_blank">proochnik@gmail.com</a>></span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">


<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Subject: </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Video to help with trilled 'r'</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">


</div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Regarding Uri's interest in a video about rolling the /r/ :</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Many American students of Arabic struggle to master the raa', the 'ayn, the</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">ghayn, the qaaf, the *h*aa', the khaa', etc.  Their instructors are not</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">necessarily the most qualified people to teach them... regardless of</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">whether the instructor is a native speaker or not.  Professional speech</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">therapists, on the other hand, are uniquely qualified to help people with</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">their pronunciation problems.  This is their field of expertise.  Bringing</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">an Arab speech therapist into the Arabic-101 classroom for a few hours</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">would be a wise investment at the start of the semester.</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">The expert would train the strugglers to master the "exotic" sounds of</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Arabic, from the vantage point of articulatory physiology.  And as the old</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">proverb says, "Well begun is half-done."  Give the students the right start</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">and they will take such pride in their ability to produce those cool Arabic</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">phonemes, it might even inspire them to stick with the language... thus</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">reducing attrition in our Arabic programs... and keeping us -- the teachers</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">-- employed!</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Cheers,</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">Abu Sammy</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13.333333969116211px">


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<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">4)</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Date: </span><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">03 Oct 2013</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">

<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">From: </span><span style="font-size:12px;background-color:rgb(241,244,250);white-space:nowrap;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Haseeb Shehadeh <<a href="mailto:shehade@mappi.helsinki.fi" target="_blank">shehade@mappi.helsinki.fi</a>></span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">

<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Subject: </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">Video to help with trilled 'r'</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">

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<tbody><tr><td>Dear Uri,<br>There are a plenty of YouTubes concerning the pronunciation of raa’<br>especially in reading the Qur’an, see for example<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAyQkr31IqY" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAyQkr31IqY</a><br>

<br>Best,<br>Haseeb Shehadeh<br><br></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">--------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>

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