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<br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">1) Subject: </span><font face="arial, sans-serif">Shami materials discussion</font><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
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<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">1)</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Date: </span><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">06 Dec 2013</span><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">From:</span> "Rasha K." <<a href="mailto:lingrash@yahoo.co.uk">lingrash@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Subject: </span><font face="arial, sans-serif">Shami materials discussion</font><br style="font-size:13.333333969116211px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br>Dear David,<br><br>I think I agree with everything you said. Although I haven't used the new Al-kitaab in class, here at the university of Manchester, we looked at 4 different textbooks including al-kitaab as an option for the UG Arabic program and we could not make the decision to use it for the reasons you have mentioned. I have to admit that it has the best quality and resources in comparison with the other available textbooks but it does not seem to have clear pedagogical aims in teaching the 3 varieties. The new al-kitaab mainly provided a translation of the old al-kitaab into shami and Egyptian and the outcome is the same vocabulary of الأمم المتحدة ومكتب القبول وأشعر بالوحدة but in the dialects as well. The same observations were mentioned by our colleague in Durham university who started using the new al-kitaab last year.<br>
<br>As we all know that MSA serves different functions from the dialects and therefore, I believe that a curriculum designed for teaching MSA has to be different from the one designed to teach a dialect.<br><br>David, you mentioned that certain structures are used more frequently in the dialects than MSA such as the object pronouns and you estimated this use to be 4-8 times an hour. I find this very interesting and I wonder if you know of any references that looked at the frequency of structures use in MSA or the dialectal varieties?! I found Buckwalter's and Parkinson's dictionary "Buckwalter, T., & Parkinson, D. B. (2011). A frequency dictionary of Arabic : core vocabulary for learners. London: Routledge." very useful in giving the teachers an insight to which lexis have the priority to be taught first, and I think if there's similar work on the frequency of grammar use, it would be very helpful in making decisions regarding the order of grammar teaching.<br>
<br>I look forward to further discussion on this topic. It will be nice to meet you David insha'Allah in the next few days in the Linguistic in Arabic conference.<br><br>Rasha Soliman<br>University of Manchester <div>
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