<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Jim,</div><div><br></div><div>I can answer part of your question in that discussion of anything outside linguistics is supposedly forbidden on this listserv, if you click on the link I sent you and read the description. If we create a new listserv, we could open up the discussion more broadly. Also if we create a new listserv, we should use the term "dene". I emailed James and asked if he is still managing this listserv. We'll see what he says. If there is no one managing this listserv anymore then we really have no choice but to create a new one, because otherwise we can't add new members.</div><div><br></div><div>Alex<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 7:09 PM James Kari <<a href="mailto:jmkari@alaska.edu">jmkari@alaska.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">this Athabaskan listserve has never experienced any growth. It has never bridged the <div>academic/ non-academic audiences. nor does it reflect the interdisciplinary potential for 35 to 40 Na-Dene language areas, ethnobiology, folklore, ethnohistory, archaeology, genetics.</div><div>CAn James Crippen weigh in on this discussion?</div><div>Thanks</div><div>JK</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 1:51 PM Alessandro Jaker <<a href="mailto:amjaker@gmail.com" target="_blank">amjaker@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Here is a link where people can subscribe. However, it still needs the moderator's approval, so we need to get in touch with James Crippen.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/athapbasckan-l" target="_blank">https://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/athapbasckan-l</a></div><div><br></div><div>Alex<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 4:41 PM Alessandro Jaker <<a href="mailto:amjaker@gmail.com" target="_blank">amjaker@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>The moderator is James Crippen, however I suspect he no longer uses his old email address. His new contact info is here:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.mcgill.ca/linguistics/james-crippen" target="_blank">https://www.mcgill.ca/linguistics/james-crippen</a></div><div><br></div><div>Alex<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 4:06 PM James Kari <<a href="mailto:jmkari@alaska.edu" target="_blank">jmkari@alaska.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello,<div>I'm happy to hear about the 2025 conf being in B.C. Re 2026, please add Jennifer Wiliiams to the Listserve. We have discussed having a Dene conf in the Kenai/Soldotna area (perhaps at Kenai Peninsula College). Jennifer is the head of Dena'ina Lang. Institute.</div><div>aLSO Who manages the Listserve? How many persons are on the Listserve? <br></div><div><div>j. Kari</div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 11:01 AM Moore, Patrick <<a href="mailto:Patrick.Moore@ubc.ca" target="_blank">Patrick.Moore@ubc.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>All,</p>
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<p>I was able to confirm this morning that Doig River First Nation is interested in hosting the Dene Languages Conference next year. They will need to work out some of the details about what will be involved with doing that, but I was able to confirm their
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<p>A forest fire was burning right across the river from town as we talked so they were assessing whether they needed to evacuate. It seemed like the interest is there though and this year they hosted a large Beaver language gathering (200 people) and a trauma
gathering (300 people) so they are able to plan and host similar events.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 8, 2024 3:54:02 PM<br>
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<p>All,</p>
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<p>I am checking with Doig River administration, but I know there was a death at Halfway River this week with the funeral tomorrow. Unfortunately it was a young man, who I also knew because his mom was the language teacher there and he was also an advanced
language learner. People at Doig River will be attending the funeral so realistically I donʼt expect to get any response about the Dene Languages conference until next week. I will note that they hosted a large three-day Beaver language gathering this spring in
Fort St John that had over 200 people in attendance. I know that they were planning to build on that momentum next year, so they may well be interested in hosting the Dene languages gathering there. Iʼll see if I can confirm their interest next week.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 7, 2024 4:42:06 PM<br>
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<font size="2" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Hello everyone!</span></font></div>
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<font size="2" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">This is great! Pat Moore and I just recently spoke about how we would love to see another Dene conference soon!</span></font></div>
<div style="font-size:16px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif,Helvetica,EmojiFont,"Apple Color Emoji","Segoe UI Emoji",NotoColorEmoji,"Segoe UI Symbol","Android Emoji",EmojiSymbols;font-variant-ligatures:normal">
<font size="2" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">I am happy to help with things as well.</span></font></div>
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<font size="2" face="tahoma, sans-serif" color="#000000"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">Nṓghā́mā<i> / Martina Volfová</i></span></font></div>
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<span style="font-size:10pt">Jānī Kaska Dene Kēyeh nahtsʼį̄́ʼ gūdesdéh. Síkʼādé gekēyeh négetón lā. <b></b></span><span style="font-size:10pt">Didī nī́ʼ síkʼādé geʼī́leh lā, wḗdé kḗgūhtʼḗī.</span></p>
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<div>Mársı to everyone who replied so far.</div>
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<div>Patrick: Thank you, this is exactly the information I was looking for. Please look into it and let us know.</div>
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<div>Gary: Yes, for sure we will need abstract reviewers, so I'll put you down for that.</div>
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<div>Lynda: Mársı for your enthusiasm, we also look forward to seeing you again as well.</div>
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<div>Have a great day,</div>
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<p>Garry Oker from Doig River First Nation must have offered to host the Dene Languages Conference at the last one in 2019. I'll check with them to see if they would want to host that next year in Fort St John.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 7, 2024 1:37:28 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> List for the discussion of the Athabaskan language family and related languages<br>
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<div>iishuh Alex!</div>
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<div>Thanks so much for prompting this long overdue discussion. Happy to help in any way I can.</div>
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<div>It has now been 5 years since we had a Dene languages conference. Perhaps like many of you, I have been reluctant to ask about the next conference, for fear that people would then ask me to organize it myself :) But at this point I am willing to take that
risk, since the Dene Languages Conference is something which has always been very important to our community.</div>
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<div>First let's review where we left off. At the 2019 conference, we agreed that the next conference (in 2020) would be hosted by the Kenaitze Indian Tribe of Kenai, Alaska, and the following year (2021) would be hosted by a First Nation in Northern BC. I
do not remember the name of the specific First Nation. Obviously, that didn't happen because of Covid 19. However, I think those two communities should have first dibs on whether or not they want to host the next conference. I contacted the Kenaitze Indian
Tribe and they said they would not be ready to host a conference in 2025, but they might still be interested for 2026. So the question is: does that First Nation from Northern BC still want to host a 2025 conference? If there is anyone from that First Nation
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<div>If I do not hear back from anyone within about a month, I will look into organizing a conference in Yellowknife in June 2025. I can't promise anything yet, since I have to get permission and apply for funding, but I've made it happen before so I can probably
do it again. So if we go down that road we can tentatively plan on a Yellowknife conference in June 2025 and a Kenai, Alaska conference in 2026.</div>
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<div>Please feel free to share any thoughts to this list, and like I said, if there is anyone from Northern BC on this list that is still interested in hosting a conference please do let us know.</div>
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<div>Mársı cho,</div>
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