Freq on French MOR tiers

Florence Chenu Florence.Chenu at univ-lyon2.fr
Mon Jun 21 19:38:08 UTC 2010


Dear Leonid,

I begin to have fun with the new feature but I can't figure out how I can
get rid of replacement word presiding [: ...] code marker (in my results, I
have sometimes v|verb at replaced_word).

And your help text is sometimes puzzling to me:

1) what does a + or a - ? ("followed by - or + and/or the following...")

2) what does " word -find "word"" mean ?

3) in your example :
   " +t%mor -t* +s"@r*,|adv,o%"
  find all stems of all "adv" and erase all other markers"

how come you don't use the "-" as in the first example (+t%mor -t*
+s"@r-*,|adv,o-%") ???

Thanks,
Florence.


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Objet : Re: Freq on French MOR tiers

Florence,

	I think you are using an older version of CLAN. I just tried your
command below with the latest version of CLAN on the data that has both
v|...-... and v|...&... elements and I did not get any results with "&" in
them.

	But, I would recommend that you switch to a new way of searching for
items on the %mor tier. New method is specifically designed for searching on
%mor tier and provides a more precise match. You can type "freq +s@" in
commands window to get more information and few example on this new feature.
For example, your command below would look like this:

freq +s"@|-v*,r-*,o-%" +t*sbj *.cha

This command looks for items that have part of speech "v*", indicated by
"|-v*", and any stem, indicated by "r-*". The "o-%" part instructs program
to exclude all other parts of each item from output. "o-%" acts the same way
as "-%%" and "&%%" in command below.

	You will need to get the latest version of CLAN to try this new
command.

Leonid.





On Jun 18, 2010, at 08:55, Florence Chenu wrote:

> Hi Leonid,
> 
> I would like to get a list of verbs in a series of files. I tried that
> command:
> 
> freq +t%mor -t* +s"v*|*-%%"  +s"v*|*&%%" *.cha +t*sbj +u
> 
> 
> In the result window, I get things like:
> 
> 67 v|taper
>  1 v|taquiner
>  7 v|tenir
>  8 v|terminer
>  5 v|tirer
> 36 v|tomber
>  1 v|tondre
> 12 v|toucher
> 
> Which I totally expect
> 
> but I also get things like :
> 
>  1 v|voir&COND&3S
>  2 v|voir&FUT&2S
>  3 v|voir&IMPF&12S
>  9 v|voir&IMPF&3S
> 73 v|voir&INF
> 34 v|voir&PRES&12S
> 10 v|voir&PRES&3P
> 31 v|voir&PRES&3S
>  1 v|voir&SUBJV:PRES&3S
> 
> and I wonder why ????
> 
> Any tips ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Florence.
> 
> 
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