MLU bug

[Yuriko Oshima-Takane]

Dear Leonid,

Great. Thanks.

Yuriko

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From: chibolts at googlegroups.com [mailto:chibolts at googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Leonid Spektor
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:52 PM
To: chibolts
Subject: Re: MLU bug

 Yuriko,

	New version of mlu works correctly now when +t*... option used. If
you want to run analyses on main speaker tiers instead of %mor tiers, then
use "-t%mor" option as you would have with previous version of mlu. I am
attaching a sample output below to demonstrate that.


You can also tell which tiers are used for analyses by looking at comment(s)
between lines:

    "mlu (....) is conducting analyses on:"

and 

    "****************************************". 

In the first example, which analyses %mor tiers, the comment is:   ONLY
dependent tiers matching: %MOR;
In the second example, which analyses main speaker tiers, it says: ONLY
speaker main tiers matching: *CHI;


> mlu +t*chi adam01.cha
mlu +t*chi adam01.cha
Wed Sep 29 12:39:08 2010
mlu (19-Sep-2010) is conducting analyses on:
  ONLY dependent tiers matching: %MOR;
****************************************
>>From file <adam01.cha>
MLU for Speaker: *CHI
  MLU (xxx and yyy are EXCLUDED from the utterance and morpheme counts):
	Number of: utterances = 1232, morphemes = 2644
	Ratio of morphemes over utterances = 2.146
	Standard deviation = 1.067



> mlu +t*chi -t%mor adam01.cha
mlu +t*chi -t%mor adam01.cha
Wed Sep 29 12:39:20 2010
mlu (19-Sep-2010) is conducting analyses on:
  ONLY speaker main tiers matching: *CHI;
****************************************
>>From file <adam01.cha>
MLU for Speaker: *CHI
  MLU (xxx and yyy are EXCLUDED from the utterance and morpheme counts):
	Number of: utterances = 1232, morphemes = 2582
	Ratio of morphemes over utterances = 2.096
	Standard deviation = 1.024



Leonid.





On Sep 29, 2010, at 12:15, Yuriko Oshima-Takane wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> 
> Does this mean that we won't be able to ask students to run MLU on the
main
> tiers with new version 
> anymore even though we use "legacy" on @Languages headerline?  I ask
> students in my class to morphemicize a sample transcript and run MLU on
main
> tiers before they learn how to use MOR (and then calculate MLUs on %mor).
> Students seem to understand better what MOR and MLU program do by trying
out
> some morphemicization by themselves.
> 
> Yuriko 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chibolts at googlegroups.com [mailto:chibolts at googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Brian MacWhinney
> Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:46 AM
> To: ChiBolts
> Subject: MLU bug
> 
> Dear ChiBolts,
> 
>   Leonid says that the problem that Bobbi Corrigan discovered was not due
> to the change in the treatment of filled pauses, but to a bug in the older
> version of MLU.  In the older version, if you use the +t option to specify
a
> particular speaker to run analyzes on, then the old version of mlu was
> computing MLU off the main speaker tier. By default, without the use of
any
> +t option, the old version of MLU was working correctly and was counting
on
> %mor tier.  So, the bug has been fixed, but it is a shame we didn't post a
> notice on this.
>   However, it was also good to have a chance to explain the current
> treatment of filled pauses on the %mor line to bring them into proper
accord
> with Brown's guidelines.
> 
> -- Brian MacW
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