more coding questions

Brian MacWhinney macw at cmu.edu
Thu Dec 8 17:48:05 UTC 2011


Dear Cathy,

   Please send me one of your files as an email attachment.

--Brian MacWhinney  (macw at cmu.edu)

On Dec 8, 2011, at 12:39 PM, Catherine Torrington Eaton wrote:

> Thank you for your responses, Yvan and Brian.
> 
> We have decided not to use Phon because we are only interested in coding positive vs. negative phonological rule usage in identified environments. We'd prefer to insert codes on the main tier where we have identified potential environments.
> 
> Unfortunately even with the space inserted into the code, we are still getting errors. I also moved all codes to the end of the utterance (rather than inserting them immediately after the relevant phonological environment) and they did not pass CHECK. I'm assuming that these post codes are before the delimiter (they didn't pass CHECK after the delimiter either)?
> 
> Thank you again for your assistance,
> Cathy
> 
> 
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> From: chibolts at googlegroups.com [chibolts at googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian MacWhinney [macw at cmu.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 9:02 PM
> To: chibolts at googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: more coding questions
> 
> Dear Cathy,
>    The problem here might be the fact that you need to put a space after the plus for [+ rel].  I am assuming that
> you are placing this code at the end of the utterance as a post code.  Also, FREQ can definitely count these and KWAL
> can search for them.  The command would be
> 
> freq +s"[+ rel]" *.cha
> 
> See Table 4 in section 10.6 of the CLAN manual.
> 
> -- Brian MacWhinney
> 
> On Dec 7, 2011, at 6:08 PM, ceaton12 at umd.edu wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I've looked at the recent string of communication on the use of codes
>> and have a related question. Is it possible to use codes that we
>> invented (for phonological processes) in the main tier? We're using a
>> +/- code immediately after the phonological event (examples: back
>> [+rel]" or back [-rel] to indicate whether a final consonant is
>> released or not). Obviously the first problem is that these codes are
>> not recognized in the depfile, so files do not pass CHECK. The second
>> problem is that FREQ doesn't count the codes since they're in
>> brackets.
>> 
>> Any feedback would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> Cathy Eaton
>> 
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