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Mark Brenchley schlemihl at gmail.com
Wed Jul 18 05:22:50 UTC 2012


Thank you both for this. Sounds like the best thing to do is simply code
the missing item as 0. Would it help with the parse if I then inserted [:
things] after the 0, or would that cause the program to register the word
as present on the mor line?

Best,
Mark

On 17 July 2012 19:03, Brian MacWhinney <macw at cmu.edu> wrote:

> Mark,
>      I don't think Leonid quite got this one.  The processing of "zero
> words" is handled by a special file in MOR called zero.cut.  That file
> includes forms such as 0n or 0prep which produce 0n|n and 0prep|prep as
> their output on the %mor line, as well as more specific words such as
> 0animal which will produced 0n|animal.  I have never been totally happy
> about the inclusion of words of the latter type, but some researchers think
> it important to mark this, so we have allowed this.
>    In any case, if your form was actually 0thing, then that file converted
> it to 0n|thing on the %mor line.  If it was 0things, then it should have
> entered ?|0things, which is definitely not what you want.  If you just want
> to mark a "nothing", then just enter 0 by itself and MOR will exclude that.
>    I should add, not so much for you but for other readers, that, although
> these zero forms will get entered into the %mor line, they will not get
> counted by MLU.
>
> --Brian
>
> On Jul 17, 2012, at 1:37 PM, Leonid Spektor wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> I have just added item "0things;" that is giving you problems, to my test
> file and mor +xl command did not output it. My best guess is that there is
> something else in your data file that is creating this problem. Also, make
> sure that you have the latest CLAN and MOR grammar. It would be very
> helpful if you could email the data file that gives you wrong result
> directly to me.
>
> Leonid.
>
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2012, at 13:11, Mark Brenchley wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I seem to be encountering a problem with the "0" character. Specifically,
> when I run *mor +xl* on my corpus, one of the items it outputs is *0things
> *; this is something I added to help with the parsing. For the life of
> me, I can't work out why it is doing this. It can't be because it doesn't
> recognise *things*, because that is fine when I remove the *0*; and it
> can't be the *0*, because it treats that as fine when used elsewhere in
> the corpus. Any 0ideas?
>
> Many thanks,
> Mark
>
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