Error Message: Current BEG time is smaller than previous tier BEG time

Nan Ratner Lab nanratnerlab at gmail.com
Tue Mar 31 19:40:56 UTC 2015


Thank you for your quick response!  I think the problem is that the 
transcripts we are working with are a compilation of different trials 
copied and pasted into one file.  After reading your message, we tried to 
edit the bullet numbers, but it seems that there are many bullet times that 
do not correspond since the files were copied and pasted in.  Is there an 
easier solution than re-numbering all of the bullets from the copied file? 
 I have included an example of the issue below.

*Example:*

*SUB: <he was> [//] he loved going to the casino and playing the slot
machines.  •797965_803733•
*SUB: he was on the slot machines three hours 0 [=! vocalizes]. 
•803733_806725•
@Eg: Run1
@Bg: Run2
*SUB: so Butch and his sister Sally went to the playground uh at fp looking
for some fun. •123817_158243•
*SUB: and they decided to play on the <&see> [//] seesaw so Butch got on
one side.
*SUB: Sally got on the other side and immediately they saw
the problem. •158243_165974•

On Monday, March 30, 2015 at 9:49:32 PM UTC-4, Spektor, Leonid: CMU wrote:
>
> Allison,
>
> This error only effects two tiers. There is no need to rebullet the whole 
> file. The error is the result of time information within a bullets 
> violating normal time progression. Following example will demonstrate the 
> problem:
>
> *FAT: and what are you asking for ? •0_2312•
> *ROS: alert [!] alert ! •2312_3715•
> *FAT: alert means like it's time for a fire alert . •2310_6937•
>
> The last *FAT tier has BEG time within it's bullet set to 2310 msecs, but 
> the previous *ROS tier has BEG time set to 2312 msecs which is 2 msecs 
> later than *FAT tier's 2310 msecs. This means that either those two 
> speakers should be placed in different order like this:
>
> *FAT: and what are you asking for ? •0_2312•
> *FAT: alert means like it's time for a fire alert . •2310_6937•
> *ROS: alert [!] alert ! •2312_3715•
>
> or the time BEG value of either speaker's bullets adjusted slightly to 
> make sure that it complies with normal time flow, like this:
>
> *FAT: and what are you asking for ? •0_2312•
> *ROS: alert [!] alert ! •2312_3715•
> *FAT: alert means like it's time for a fire alert . •2312_6937•
>
> You can open data file that has this error with CLAN, then locate the tier 
> that causes the error and select menu "Mode->Expand bullets" or press ESC-a 
> keys. This will display the time values within bullets and it will let you 
> edit them by hand. 
>
>
> Leonid.
>
>
>  
> On Mar 30, 2015, at 19:02, Nan Ratner Lab <nanrat... at gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Our lab has been cleaning up transcription files using CHECK in order to 
> run some analyses and a couple of the members have been receiving error 
> messages that read, "Current BEG time is smaller than previous tier BEG 
> time". We were not sure if this would require them to rebullet the entire 
> file or if there was an easier way to fix this.  Any help is appreciated!
>
> Thank you,
> Allison Catalano 
>
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