CHAT/CLAN help: add to %mor, missing items, %err line, post codes

Katerina Tetzloff katie.tetzloff.12 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 8 13:12:20 UTC 2016


Thank you for your response!
-Regarding the first question, I must have had some sort of typo, because I 
am not getting any errors at the moment. I will try editing the v.cut, as 
you said this would be the best way to do that. I don't have a huge corpus, 
so it should be doable for the tokens I have. 
-I did, however, get an error when trying to code errors on the main tier. 
For example:
PAR*:     The fish [* s:r] caught the man [* s:r].
This gave me error messages until I replaced the error indication on the 
main tier to just [*] and specified the [* s:r] on the error tier. Should 
this work just on the main tier?

-I will put my postcodes back onto the main line! Thank you! However, how 
do I run commands searching for lines with a certain postcode? I was 
thinking 

Thank you!!
-Katerina

On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:59:09 UTC-5, Brian MacWhinney wrote:

> Dear Katerina,
>
> I couldn’t replicate any problem directly.  Probably I don’t understand 
> what you are doing.  Which program is giving you the error message?  To 
> understand this, I would need to see your command line and a one-line file 
> in which you enter the code and get an error message.  
>
>  However, the right way to do this would be to add verb class codes to all 
> the verbs in the v.cut file in the English MOR grammar.  That is a big job, 
> but it would be the right way to tackle the issue.  
>
>   Regarding searches for 0det and such, you would use +s”0*” in FREQ, 
> KWAL, etc.
>
>   Yes, you can run commands on the %err tier.   You use +t%err.  However, 
> we encourage people to do error coding on the main line.  The manual has a 
> section on this.
>
>     Postcodes go on the main line.  
>
>  
>
> --Brian MacWhinney
>
>  
>
> *From: *ChiBolts <chib... at googlegroups.com <javascript:>> on behalf of 
> Katerina Tetzloff <katie.te... at gmail.com <javascript:>>
> *Reply-To: *ChiBolts <chib... at googlegroups.com <javascript:>>
> *Date: *Tuesday, June 7, 2016 at 12:32 PM
> *To: *ChiBolts <chib... at googlegroups.com <javascript:>>
> *Subject: *CHAT/CLAN help: add to %mor, missing items, %err line, post 
> codes
>
>  
>
> I am currently undertaking a project that requires automated language 
> analysis and have chosen to use CLAN. I have consulted the CHAT and CLAN 
> user manuals but am left with a few questions, hopefully some of you can 
> answer.  
>
> 1)      -  Is there a way to add more detail to the %mor tier and run 
> analyses on these things that are not mentioned in the CHAT manual? I am 
> wanting to code argument structure of verbs. I tried adding an extra 
> classification on my %mor tier like v|give-3S-PAST-ditransitive, but it 
> gives me an error that it does not recognize that code. I am not sure how 
> to edit the %mor file to adjust this, if it is even doable.
>
>  
>
> 2)     - If I code missing items, like 0det for missing determiner, how 
> can I run commands just involving these absent items?
>
>  
>
> 3)     - Can I run commands on the error tier? I have coded semantic 
> errors and would like to run an analysis on these if possible.
>
>  
>
> 4)    - I also would like to use post codes (e.g., [+gram] is mentioned 
> in the CHAT manual) at the end of lines, but the manual doesn’t say on 
> which tier this code needs to be. I have been putting it on the annotation 
> tier, which does not cause any errors, but I am unable to run commands 
> based on the post-code. 
>
>  
>
> Thank you! 
>
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