Question about MOR and GRA Tiers

Nan Bernstein Ratner nratner at umd.edu
Thu Oct 4 20:24:15 UTC 2018


We think we figured out one major reason. If you download files from
CHILDES that are already mor-ed, they were done a while back, and your
newer CLAN program has trouble. Just re- mor them and all should be well.

N

Nan Bernstein Ratner, F-, H-ASHA, F-AAAS, ABCLD
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On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 4:13 PM Brian MacWhinney <macw at cmu.edu> wrote:

> Dear Nan and Sara,
>
> Usually, what causes this is editing the main line after having run
> MOR/POST/GRASP.  Specifically, you may have either added or removed a word
> on the main line.
>
> --Brian MacWhinney
>
> On Oct 4, 2018, at 4:09 PM, Nan Bernstein Ratner <nratner at umd.edu> wrote:
>
> It's happening a lot when we run check in the lab this week - what leads
> to mismatches between tiers?
>
> Nan Bernstein Ratner, F-, H-ASHA, F-AAAS, ABCLD
> Professor
> Hearing and Speech Sciences
> University of Maryland
> 0100 Lefrak Hall
> College Park, MD 20742
> nratner at umd.edu, 301-405-4217
>
> Co-director: FluencyBank (www.fluency.talkbank.org);
> http://languagefluency.umd.edu/
>
> President, International Fluency Association (IFA; http://theifa.org)
> Director, University of Maryland Autism Research Consortium (UMARC),
> www.autism.umd.edu
> Faculty, Language Science (languagescience.umd..edu), Neuroscience &
> Cognitive Neuroscience (NACS, nacs.umd.edu), Developmental Science Field
> Committee
>
> http://hesp.umd.edu/facultyprofile/bernstein%20ratner/nan
>
> My PubMed Bibliography
> <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/myncbi/1-UVaaDdREZ/bibliography/40436718/public/?sort=date&direction=ascending>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:58 PM Leonid Spektor <spektor at andrew.cmu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Sara,
>>
>> The simplest way to fix it is to run MOR command on the transcript file
>> again. If this does not work, then get the latest CLAN and the latest MOR
>> grammar and to run MOR command on your transcript file one more time. The
>> +d7 option tries to match items from %mor tier to items on %gra tier and if
>> those two tiers have different number of items, then there will be a
>> mismatch.
>>
>> if after you get a new CLAN and new MOR grammar and run MOR command on
>> your transcript and you still get the same error message, then please email
>> your transcript file directly to me for further testing.
>>
>>
>> Leonid.
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2018, at 15:11, Sara Kalyan <skalyan at gwmail.gwu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We are trying to use the +d7 switch with freq to search for items on the
>> %mor and %gra tiers, but get the following error message. Can anyone help
>> with this? We don't know how to fix this error or how to proceed.
>>
>>
>> *** File "/Users/sreyes/Research$/BILD/BILD Core/Diversity Project/
>> Participant Transcripts_NBR_MOR  /R01ED004-EN.cha": line 2280.
>> SELECTED DEPENDENT TIER DOES NOT LINK IN SIZE TO SECOND SELECTED TIER.
>> THIS MAY EFFECT RESULTS OF THE ANALYSES.
>>
>> Thank you for your help
>> --
>> Sara R. Kalyan
>> M.A Candidate
>> Department of Speech, Language and Hearing Sciences
>> The George Washington University
>> skalyan at gwmail.gwu.edu
>>
>>
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